Ban AI review bots
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Topic: Ban AI review bots
Posted By: Hrychu
Subject: Ban AI review bots
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 12:52
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Help us improve the site? Sure. Ban all AI bots that shіt out their meaningless decoy album reviews like crazy lately. example: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=77909" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=77909 AI bots removed = boom! Site improved. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 16:20
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What Turing test do you wish to apply? ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 16:46
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
I prophesy disaster wrote:Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 18:38
I'm not joking! A few years ago, Microsoft implemented a type of CAPTCHA for people wanting to create email accounts which involved a task that I believe was too difficult for anyone but a savant and would've been especially difficult and demoralising for people with disabilities. Fortunately, Microsoft came to their senses and reverted back to a more common type of CAPTCHA. The fundamental problem is that in the arms race between AI and CAPTCHA, as soon as AI becomes as smart as humans, it is game over for CAPTCHA. You seem rather confident that you can distinguish an AI from a human. But can you actually prove that what you believe to be an AI really is an AI, and not simply a person with a variant way of expressing themselves? ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 08 2024 at 19:46
I mean, if we ban AI as well and as people with, what you described as a "variant way of expressing oneself". Other people, who notice that new PA rule will do whatever it takes to prove they're human. Because, trust me, nobody wants to be mistaken for AI... except for AI. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 08 2024 at 22:44
| I'm always puzzled how AI Bots can actually have an opinion? Personally I would ban all annoying avatars immediately and then I wouldn't leave the site with a headache. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 08 2024 at 23:52
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: June 09 2024 at 04:29
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It´s definitely an interesting discussion...and an important one. I´ve messed around with AI to understand what it was capable of, and I was pretty surprised how close it got to emulating my review style. So it´s no joke that AI generated reviews could pretty easily pass as "human" reviews.
------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: June 09 2024 at 06:50
I ran part of this review through QuillBot (https://quillbot.com/ai-content-detector) and it returned an 87% confidence that it was AI written. I ran one of my most recent reviews and it returned 100% human written. So why not use such a tool to scrub any suspected AI garbage from the site, and suspend any users guilty of multiple violations? ------------- “I don’t like country music, but I don’t mean to denigrate those who do. And for those who like country music, denigrate means to ‘put down.'” – Bob Newhart |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 09 2024 at 16:41
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The thing is, Quixote was delusional and he tried to fight an imaginary issue. But here, it's not a delusion and the issue is really bad. Quixote was alone in his fight and to everybody else he was a deranged fanatic. In this case however, we can unite! If the Spanish army joined his side, the mills would've been annihilated. ;) ___________________________________ to end this on a high note  here's a meme ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 09 2024 at 17:35
 ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 07:47
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Hi, I think the criteria required to get rid of the thing is a problem ... the AI will adapt to go past the new idea ... and we're at it again. My biggest issue, is with "blurbs" (as Mike calls them), which while meaning well in his case, is the perfect scenario for AI stuff ... a small amount to say that kinda gives you an idea about the album, or song. Being a writer, I have the bad tendency of not repeating my "style" much ... I think I get bored after the first sentence, and have to do something different, and this is one of the reasons why I stick with dreams and visions, so I stop worrying about "content" and above all ... the vicious idea that everything has to be done by "mind over matter" in some kind of known style, which is how some things are reviewed more often than not. My thoughts are that when a review just compares to others and uses the "terms" that define something or other, that the person writing is not listening a lot ... they are just commenting on some familiarity of their listening, not on the album itself ... and this, sometimes is hidden by having a few pieces described from the album, though not all of them. All my reviews are different, because they are how I see them at that very moment, which is not repeatable at all ... later ... thus it is possible that my review will take on elements that seem somewhat general, but at the very least I am being HONEST about where I see that and how/why ... the same thing applies to my film reviews and articles in the various threads about a director and his/her work ... generalizing in this area is very hard, thus AI would fall flat quickly ... like trying to review a Godard film that is a HUGE finger to everything that pre-fabricated or pre-thought about ... like Fellini, he is a kid with a camera in his hands. Thus, a review that simply compares it to another band, would be TOTALLY inappropriate, since the person is just hearing the other band, and not listening to this one. I would love to see this addressed but we might need a KING OF REVIEWS to go over many of them, and only allow a certain number of folks that have proven themselves as bonafide reviewers to post outright.... thus anyone "brand new" posting a review and a rating ... would be a NONONO since we know these folks are mainly jacking the system. This is as much as I can wind up right now ... some comments might help me define things more, but there is a way to fool AI ... and its best done with their own "tools", once we can see them ... but I doubt that we are looking at many of those reviews in detail, since some folks are basically doing the same thing without AI. We got to find the box that ends all boxes, so we can move on, right? ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 08:33
^ I think blurbs are not the problem, since AI is perfectly capable of writing lengthy reviews. 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 08:37
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Me: "write me a short blurb on the new pineapple thief album" ChatGPT 4.0: "The Pineapple Thief's latest album, "Versions of the Truth," delves deep into themes of perception and reality, blending atmospheric soundscapes with emotive lyricism. Bruce Soord's introspective songwriting shines, supported by intricate arrangements and lush production. The album offers a compelling mix of progressive rock and art-rock elements, delivering a thought-provoking and immersive listening experience. Fans of the band and new listeners alike will find "Versions of the Truth" a captivating addition to The Pineapple Thief's discography." |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 08:39
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Me: "That's not the latest pineapple thief album. Try again!" ChatGPT 4.0 (scanning seven websites, including PA): "The Pineapple Thief has released their latest album, "It Leads To This," which marks a significant evolution in their sound. The album, created in close collaboration between frontman Bruce Soord and drummer Gavin Harrison, features a more concise and focused approach compared to their previous, more sprawling works. This collaborative effort, conducted mostly in the same room, has resulted in a dynamic and tightly constructed collection of songs ( https://montrealrocks.ca/the-pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-interview-2024/" rel="nofollow - Montreal Rocks ) ( https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/the-pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album-review" rel="nofollow - louder ). Lyrically, the album explores themes of anxiety about the future, drawing inspiration from various sources, including ancient Roman stories and contemporary societal issues ( https://montrealrocks.ca/the-pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-interview-2024/" rel="nofollow - Montreal Rocks ) ( https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=82911" rel="nofollow - Progarchives ). Tracks like "Now It's Yours" and "To Forget" showcase the band's ability to blend emotional depth with intricate musical arrangements ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this" rel="nofollow - louder ) ( https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=82911" rel="nofollow - Progarchives ). Soord and Harrison's partnership has pushed the band to new creative heights, with Harrison's innovative rhythms adding a fresh complexity to the sound ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album" rel="nofollow - louder ). Overall, "It Leads To This" is a testament to The Pineapple Thief's commitment to artistic growth and their ability to craft compelling, emotionally resonant music ( https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/the-pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album-review" rel="nofollow - louder ) ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this" rel="nofollow - louder )." It's just an elaborate search engine at this point. And the hallucinating is not likely to go away ... so you always need to check everything it generates for accuracy, to the point that you're faster writing it yourself. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 09:06
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 09:07
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Actually it's not searching, at least not when you talk to it. It lives on the material that had been fed to it before.
At least this is my understanding. Now looking at the results when you ask it to review a little known album it seems it must have eaten half the internet before.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 09:09
I suggest we add an extra badge - VERIFIED HUMAN REVIEWER. Right now, ther is PROG REVIEWER, except that one also goes with being a special collaborator. We need something less prestigious. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 09:39
This new version (4.0) was searching and processing sources when I asked it to try again. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 10:36
| ^ OK, seems I was wrong (my info was from an article explaining how it works, but apparently it can be and has been added). |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 10:37
How do you think this could be verified? Note that the reliability of existing AI detection is limited, and there may be different opinions about the importance of avoiding false positives vs. false negatives.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 14:02
I feel like in this bleak post truth world, people are increasingly losing their ability to be skeptical about things. If a reviewer writes suspiciously moronic reviews and/or those reviews are filled with laughably cringeworthy research flaws, then you should pay attention to the stuff they submit. Maybe even try talking to them via PMs? Maybe even ask them to provide some additional info about themselves - nationality, how they discovered upon the prog genre. That would simply add more variables for an AI bot to give itself away. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 14:36
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I wanted to get an improvement on the generated review. Most reviews are written from the perspective of the listener, so here we go: Me: "write the review from the perspective of a real listener." ChatGPT: "As a long-time fan of The Pineapple Thief, I was eagerly anticipating their latest album, "It Leads To This." The moment I hit play, I could tell this album was a product of deep collaboration and intense creativity. Bruce Soord and Gavin Harrison have truly outdone themselves. The album opens with "Put It Right," a track that immediately sets a contemplative tone with its melodic hooks and introspective lyrics. It's clear that Soord's songwriting has reached new heights, blending seamlessly with Harrison's innovative drumming. This partnership is evident throughout the album, especially in songs like "Rubicon," where Harrison's rhythm work pushes the boundaries of their sound in exciting ways ( https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/the-pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album-review" rel="nofollow - louder ) ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album" rel="nofollow - louder ). One of my favorites is "Now It's Yours." This track builds up a powerful, emotional vortex, showcasing the band's ability to create a whirlwind of sound that pulls you in and holds you captive. The second half of the song is particularly intense, with booming drums and relentless guitars that evoke a sense of cathartic release ( https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=82911" rel="nofollow - Progarchives ). Another standout track, "To Forget," captures a haunting beauty with its poignant lyrics and Gilmour-esque guitar work. It's a reflective piece that resonates deeply, a cry in the night that perfectly captures the band's knack for blending sorrow with sonic majesty ( https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=82911" rel="nofollow - Progarchives ). The entire album feels more concise and focused than their previous works, which is a refreshing change. The songs are tightly constructed, each one a carefully crafted piece of the whole. This "fat-free" approach makes the album more accessible without sacrificing the complexity and depth that fans have come to love ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this" rel="nofollow - louder ). Overall, "It Leads To This" is a testament to The Pineapple Thief's growth and evolution. It's an album that challenges both the band and its listeners, pushing the boundaries of their sound while staying true to the emotive core that defines their music. For me, this album is a thrilling addition to their discography, and I can't wait to see how these songs translate live on their upcoming tour ( https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/the-pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album-review" rel="nofollow - louder ) ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album" rel="nofollow - louder )." Not bad! Very convincing.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 16:26
| I still don't understand how it can have an opinion though? If you want something well written (albeit 'vanilla' and impersonal) I get that of course but how can an AI bot decide to like or not like something? |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 17:00
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The AI bot doesn't have an opinion about the music. It has an "opinion" about which words are good for which kinds of question, and which words are good after which other words. For this it has been trained based on lots and lots of documents of all kinds, and by user reactions which it uses to improve and change. The opinion about the music comes in because the reviews on which it has been trained convey an opinion, and so what the bot comes up with will convey an opinion, too. Note by the way that up to now I have only seen it writing positive reviews. I'm very sure it will do negative if you tell it explicitly that it should, or even one that has some positive and some negative aspects (it is impressively good at "understanding" the requests). However it may be that if you don't tell it anything else explicitly (just "write a review for..."), it will always come out positive. (Can anybody confirm?)
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 12 2024 at 00:57
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^ Here you go ... Me: "let's write a similar review for Metallica's St. Anger album." ChatGPT: "As a long-time Metallica fan, revisiting "St. Anger" is always a journey of mixed emotions. Released in 2003, this album stands out as one of the most controversial and polarizing works in the band's discography. When it first dropped, I remember the shock of hearing those raw, unpolished sounds. It was a stark departure from the polished production of their previous albums. The opening track, "Frantic," sets the tone with its aggressive, chaotic energy. The infamous snare drum sound, often described as a "tin can" by critics and fans alike, is front and center, giving the song a raw, almost primal feel. At first, it was jarring, but over time, I came to appreciate the gritty authenticity it brings ( https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/the-pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album-review" rel="nofollow - louder ). One of the most compelling aspects of "St. Anger" is the lyrical content. Tracks like "Some Kind of Monster" and "The Unnamed Feeling" dive deep into themes of frustration, anger, and personal turmoil. It's clear that the band was going through a tumultuous period, and the album feels like a cathartic release of all that pent-up emotion ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this" rel="nofollow - louder ). James Hetfield's vocals are particularly raw and visceral, adding to the overall intensity. The title track, "St. Anger," encapsulates the album's spirit with its relentless pace and unfiltered rage. The song's structure is unconventional, eschewing the typical guitar solos that Metallica is known for. Instead, it focuses on building an almost oppressive atmosphere, which perfectly complements the lyrics about internal struggle and release ( https://www.loudersound.com/features/pineapple-thief-it-leads-to-this-album" rel="nofollow - louder ). Despite its divisive reception, "St. Anger" has its moments of brilliance. "Invisible Kid" and "Shoot Me Again" showcase some of the band's most experimental work, blending heavy riffs with a sense of spontaneity and raw emotion. The absence of traditional solos might disappoint some, but it also forces the listener to focus more on the rhythm and the intense lyrical delivery ( https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=82911" rel="nofollow - Progarchives ). In hindsight, "St. Anger" feels like a necessary purge for Metallica. It's an album that captured a specific moment in their career, filled with angst and a desire to strip everything back to the basics. While it may not be their most beloved work, it certainly has its place in the Metallica canon. For me, listening to "St. Anger" is a reminder of the band's resilience and their willingness to take risks, even if it means facing harsh criticism." |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 12 2024 at 01:28
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And trying harder: Me: "please write a really negative review of pineapple thief's latest release." ChatGPT: "As a longtime follower of The Pineapple Thief, I approached their latest release, "It Leads To This," with a mixture of anticipation and skepticism. Unfortunately, my doubts were confirmed. This album is a disappointing step backward for a band that has shown so much potential in the past. The most glaring issue with "It Leads To This" is its lack of innovation. The album feels like a rehash of previous ideas, offering nothing new or exciting. Tracks like "Put It Right" and "Rubicon" are predictable and formulaic, lacking the creative spark that once set the band apart. The absence of memorable hooks and dynamic shifts makes the listening experience monotonous and forgettable. Lyrically, the album attempts to tackle weighty themes, but it falls flat. Bruce Soord’s lyrics, which once conveyed deep emotion and introspection, now come across as clichéd and uninspired. Songs like "Now It's Yours" and "To Forget" try too hard to be profound but end up sounding forced and shallow. The emotional depth that characterized albums like "Your Wilderness" is noticeably absent. The production quality is another significant letdown. The decision to adopt a "fat-free" approach has stripped the music of its richness and texture. The result is a sound that feels thin and underdeveloped. Gavin Harrison’s drumming, while technically proficient, often feels out of place, as if trying to compensate for the lack of substance in the compositions. Moreover, the band’s attempt to blend raw emotion with polished production comes off as disjointed. Instead of creating a cohesive sound, "It Leads To This" feels like a collection of mismatched ideas thrown together without much thought. The album’s pacing is erratic, with tracks abruptly shifting tone and style, disrupting any sense of flow or continuity. In summary, "It Leads To This" is a disappointing effort from The Pineapple Thief. It lacks the creativity, lyrical depth, and production quality that fans have come to expect. This album is a misstep for a band that has previously demonstrated so much potential. As a fan, it’s disheartening to see them release such a lackluster and uninspired work." |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: June 12 2024 at 02:25
 don't trust any sentence from now on ...------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 12 2024 at 02:30
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 12 2024 at 07:14
Take a look at SteamTriane's :v (sorry for the trademark Czyszy punnery) negative reviews circa 2004. Tons of personal style.
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: June 13 2024 at 07:04
Your first two ChatGPT submissions came back 100% AI-generated when tested on QuillBot. This one was 87%. I think that's sufficient to eliminate such submissions. Can you get ChatGPT to write something that isn't detectable as AI-generated (i.e. scores below 50%)? Or a human to write something that is mis-identified as AI?. ------------- “I don’t like country music, but I don’t mean to denigrate those who do. And for those who like country music, denigrate means to ‘put down.'” – Bob Newhart |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 13 2024 at 07:20
I checked one of my favorite prog album reviews of mine with QuillBot: What a relief. :) ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2024 at 08:23
I haven't tried, but here we go: Me: "please write me a review for opeth's release blackwater park which passes the ai detector tests." ChatGPT: "Blackwater Park, the iconic album by Opeth, stands as a testament to the band's unparalleled musical talent and creative vision. This masterpiece skillfully blends progressive rock and death metal elements, weaving a complex tapestry of sound that entrances listeners. Opeth's adept songwriting is evident in the intricate arrangements and seamless transitions that define each track. The musicianship displayed throughout the album is nothing short of extraordinary, with stellar guitar work, dynamic drumming, and haunting vocals that resonate with emotion. Tracks like "The Drapery Falls" and the title track "Blackwater Park" showcase Opeth's ability to seamlessly marry aggression with melody, resulting in a captivating sonic journey. In essence, Blackwater Park is a timeless classic that solidifies Opeth's standing as innovators in the realm of metal music." Still detected as 100% AI
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 13 2024 at 08:29
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Sounds like a plan! Even if some human-written reviews will get detectes as parially AI based, that would encourage mediocre reviewers to try again and be creative for a change! ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Sebastianmoto
Date Posted: June 13 2024 at 11:32
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Prompt: Write a poorly written review about the album 'Close to the edge' by the British band 'Yes'. Make specific comments about the musicianship of the artists. Include lots of obvious spelling mistakes and poor grammar. Do not over-emphasis any points. Use less descriptors Bing Copilot: So, “Close to the Edge” by Yes—it’s like a musical rollercoaster, innit? 🎢 The lead singer, Jon Anderson, 'is voice is like a magical unicorn fart—ethereal and sparkly. 🦄✨ Chris Squire on bass? ‘E’s like a groovy walrus slappin’ the strings with ‘is flippers. 🐋💥 Bill Bruford, the drummer, ‘e’s drummin’ like ‘e’s tryin’ to wake up a hibernatin’ bear. 🥁🐻 Steve Howe, the guitarist? ‘E’s got fingers like spaghetti noodles playin’ hopscotch on the fretboard. 🍝🎶 And Rick Wakeman on keys? ‘E’s ticklin’ the ivories like a mischievous pixie. 🎹🧚♂️ Now, the title track, “Close to the Edge,” it’s like a musical maze—twisty, turny, and a bit confusin’. 🌀🎵 “And You and I”? Well, that’s like a gentle breeze blowin’ through a dandelion field. 🌬️🌼 “Siberian Khatru”? It’s like a funky dance-off between a kangaroo and a flamingo. 🦘🕺🦩 The album cover? It’s all swirls and colors, like a tie-dye shirt after a wild party. 🌈👕
So there ya 'ave it, mate. “Close to the Edge” is a wonky, wobbly masterpiece. Cheers! 48% detected by Quillbot, detecting the first 3 lines as 'Human' and the last 4 as AI, but that's probably because it's an AI trying to detect AI, where a human could pretty quickly tell. Obviously you'd hope not to see a review like that anyway. If anything were to be put in place for AI detection, I think it would be good to have a 'Suspected AI' option when reporting reviews to account for false negatives, and an appeal process for false positives (so long as the review is worth keeping anyway)
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 14 2024 at 07:06
Hi, Goodness, this has so much talcum powder in it, that ... 1. "iconic" ... according to what/who? 2. "unparalleled musical talent" ... as compared/according to whom? A fan? 3. "weaving complex tapestry of sounds" ... so, no one else does this? And what is so unique about this tapestry? 4. "Opeth's adept songwriting" ... wow ... so no one else is "adept" ... and what does it really mean? That you are Dylan? That you are Dylan Thomas? That you are Ginsburg? To me, this is the kind of comment that is really poor and bad ... how is that person comparing "adept"? ... they aren't! Either this would be some AI, or the listener has only heard one thing in his/her whole life, and can't see others doing something their favorite band does! And likely in poor terms, because no one in his/her right mind would write something so mindless about a real artist ... try that one on Eliot, Willie, and so many others ... these words here won't stand up to a pile of steaming heap on door number 3! I'm guessing that what PA would need for a group on this stuff is people who are well read, and are well versed in the arts to a point ... because there is a lot in the making sense of the senseless paragraphs that can be turned out really quick ... people that CAN write reviews don't normally stoop so low, and use a low high school mentality to write something that is valuable and important ... I wonder why folks think that AI is gonna be the next "it" and that its "intelligence" can be improved beyond a few folks that are good at making the robot take its first steps ... and only kill it after a few steps because the robot has nothing to do and the designing folks are very short on creativity beyond their "code" ... logic is a serious issue here, and we're not talking the robot taking a step with the next command line.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 16 2024 at 06:31
I was about to reply to some "AI bro" talking nonsense here.. and when I pressed "Post Reply" Poof! They vanished. Hmmmm.... I suspect a troll! ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |