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Topic: Cover VersionsPosted By: Progfan1958
Subject: Cover Versions
Date Posted: June 02 2024 at 17:39
As fans of progressive music, you would think that most of us would welcome cover interpretations by our favourite artists as they pay tribute to the bands and musicians who inspire them. Personally, I like it most when the cover version puts a new or different spin on the original material. That change can be an almost exact homage, a relatively conservative stylistic version, an exciting update to a well known classic, or a radical reinvention taking a very different path. But what do you think ? Let's see where this question takes us.
Enjoy the conversation everyone.
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Replies: Posted By: RockHound
Date Posted: June 02 2024 at 20:19
I think Yes’ version of Simon and Garfunkel’s America is an ideal cover. Respect paid to the original while demonstrating a different potential.
Covers that simply follow the original lack imagination and leave me wondering why the artist even bothered.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 00:17
third option
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 03:16
It depends on what the covered material is and who's doing the cover. Alterations can improve the source or they can break it just as likely.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 03:46
Similar to the original, but ideally with a female singer and with at least one original member of the band in the line-up - a bit like modern-day YES with Steve Howe, or Jon Anderson and the Prog Geeks for instance.
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 04:24
I do like some thoughtful reinterpretations, and even as a Floyd fanatic, I love the way Kendra Morris nails SOYCD in around 5 minutes.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 05:34
Daringly changed and reinterpreted.
Why else to even do a cover if not to re-interpret.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 06:44
Both options 3 and 4 can deliver interesting results. Don't know under what option this falls, but it is beautiful:
Emel - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath:
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 07:17
Option three for me. Here is another Sabbath cover.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 07:39
I picked "somewhat changed but still recognizable." Having said that, I'm OK with options 2, 3, and 4. They all have their merits. It worries me that every pilcrow I come across smells like tennis ostriches.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 07:49
I chose option #2 being similar to the original but in the style of the covering artist.
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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 09:20
I like 'em quirky and fun!
Day Tripper - Yellow Magic Orchestra
It Won't Be Long - The Quick
and most of Robert Berry's interpretations are good. The December People CD was interesting, doing original and standard Christmas tunes in the style of some popular artists we all love. Much like the tribute records.
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 09:45
somewhat changed but still recognizable.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 10:25
A favorite cover.......
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 10:53
Another favourite Beatles cover that's even better than the original.
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 11:26
RockHound wrote:
I think Yes’ version of Simon and Garfunkel’s America is an ideal cover. Respect paid to the original while demonstrating a different potential.
Covers that simply follow the original lack imagination and leave me wondering why the artist even bothered.
Yes, there is no point in doing a cover version and copying the original.
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 11:27
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Another favourite Beatles cover that's even better than the original.
Please tell me you're joking Paul.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 11:43
Here's Norwegian Wood by Allan Holdsworth.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 12:04
chopper wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Another favourite Beatles cover that's even better than the original.
Please tell me you're joking Paul.
No, seriously! The Beatles' version doesn't include an astounding psychedelic guitar freak out that begins at 3:45 with some simply sensational riffing that reverberates through my brain every time I hear it.. It's Poptastic!
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 13:09
Then again some cover versions are completely off the wall.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 13:46
From...
Amboy Dukes - Journey To The Center Of The Mind (1968)
To...
Ramones - Journey To The Center Of The Mind (1993)
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 14:15
I go for daring reinterpretation, especially if the original has some substance but is sub-standard. If it is as close to the original, I find it pointless. Somewhat changed but still recognizable is also acceptable.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 03 2024 at 20:02
I'm not really sure. Something between the second and fourth options. It would depend on who is doing the cover and whom is being covered. If it's a prog band doing the cover of a pop band, then I would certainly like them to prog them up, just like Yes with their early covers. There's for example Dream Theater, whom have done many covers indeed, but I do wish they would have made them proggier and/or heavier.
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: June 04 2024 at 01:57
^The Yes cover of 'America' being an exemplary example of what you're talking about.
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: June 04 2024 at 03:25
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: June 04 2024 at 03:26
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: June 04 2024 at 03:27
https://youtu.be/NXf1Az4dylA?si=7MyuXyTzJXZdFUfq
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: June 04 2024 at 06:52
Floydoid wrote:
^The Yes cover of 'America' being an exemplary example of what you're talking about.
True. I would add Manfred Mann's Earth Band cover of Springsteen's Blinded by the Light and I Came for You to the list.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 04 2024 at 07:07
Annie Haslam & Steve Howe - Turn of the Century. Is it better than the original? YES!!
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: June 04 2024 at 08:06
Somewhat changed by still recognizable.
Thinking Hackett's Genesis Revisited I over Genesis Revisited II, the latter of which was a lot closer to the originals.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: June 04 2024 at 22:33
Spock's Beard's version of Beware of Darkness is pretty different from the source material. Though it should be noted that Morse originally had never heard the ACTUAL original version by George Harrison, but was rather bouncing off of another cover, the one by Leon Russell.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 23:06
I'm not sure. A few cover versions I love are
Colosseum - Theme For an Imaginery Western
Mountain - Theme for an Imaginery Western
Greenslade - Theme For an Imaginery Western
all 3 are covers of Jack Bruce's original song. It's a great song and can be done different ways as this proves. Maybe a slight preference for Mountain's version though.
Mathew's Southern Comfort - Woodstock
apparently Joni Mitchell wrote this while sitting in her apartment in New york while watching the disaster unfold. She was meant to be there performing of course but it was way past the point where she could have tried gettig there. I love the MSC version a lot.
Glass Hammer - It's All Too Much
I love this a lot more than the Beatles original. Steve Babb's bass and Suzie's vocals are sublime.
Monsoon - Tomorrow Never Knows
Carla Azar - Tomorrow Never Knows
both are great. The latter is from the Sucker Punch film soundtrack. I purchased the CD just to get this!
Dream Theater do a lot of great covers on the Change Of Seasons EP. I particularly like their version of Elton Johns Funeral For A Friend and Love Lies Bleeding
I suppose none of these change the original that much so I'll vote for option 2.
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 13:27
You also have Manfred Mann's expanded version of Dylan's "Father Of Day, Father Of Night", which I think is excellent !
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"Peace to you all"
"La paix est avec vous"
"Pax vobiscum"
"Al salaam a'alaykum"
"Vrede zij met u allen"
"Shalom aleichem"
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 17:11
Progfan1958 wrote:
You also have Manfred Mann's expanded version of Dylan's "Father Of Day, Father Of Night", which I think is excellent !
great shout
MMEB also did great covers of the Springsteen songs Spirit In The Night, Blinded By The Light and For You.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 18:38
I don't want to hear something and then two minutes into it think "oh yeah, I know it now." An example might be something like this one (or this one):
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 02:23
^ unavailable for me.
What is it?
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 02:26
A cover that fits the 4th option, a jazz cover of Metallica's My Friend of Misery. Superb if you ask me.
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 03:22
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 04:13
I voted for option 3 but it could be anywhere from option 2 to 4.
Sometimes going radically different works, and sometimes it can be just a novelty.
This is both. Hellsongs does "lounge" covers of metal songs as their gimmick. I absolutely enjoy their version of Megadeth's Symphony of Destruction.
A couple years back I did poll/playlist of covers of War Pigs. I have since expanded the playlist with a wide range of covers that could be 2 to 4. Some work really well and others don't. But it shows how good the original song is. You need a good song in the first place.
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 05:22
Closer to what it might have sounded like if Phil Collins had sung this
GLASS MOON - Solsbury Hill (1980)
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 11:59
Cristi wrote:
^ unavailable for me.
What is it?
Red House Painters - Long Distance Runaround (from the 90s and you can probably find it on your youtube)
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 15:17
I picked "Somewhat changed, but still recognizable"
One of my faves representing that is Helmut Koellen's cover of the Beatle's "You Won't See Me"
Posted By: ProgSynonym
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 22:22
I can't vote on this poll, but man, Steve Hillage’s 1977 live rendition of the Beatles’ 'It’s All Too Much' is like, totally mind-blowing, man! I mean, that guitar solo just takes you on a cosmic journey through time and space, you know what I’m saying? The way he blends those psychedelic vibes with his killer guitar skills is just next level. It’s like he’s tapping into some higher frequency or something, and it’s pure magic.
Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: June 08 2024 at 08:04
Try listening Pink Talking Fish. Some concerts on YouTube.
Posted By: RockHound
Date Posted: June 08 2024 at 14:49
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Annie Haslam & Steve Howe - Turn of the Century. Is it better than the original? YES!!
I would have been really happy if a deal could have been worked out where Annie replaced Jon when he left Yes. Drama with Annie on vocals would have been awesome.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 08 2024 at 14:51
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Cristi wrote:
^ unavailable for me.
What is it?
Red House Painters - Long Distance Runaround (from the 90s and you can probably find it on your youtube)
ok, thanks.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 09 2024 at 20:45
Floydoid wrote:
^The Yes cover of 'America' being an exemplary example of what you're talking about.
Indeed, that one and the other covers they did in their first albums. Unfortunatley, though I do love the way they adapted and progged up those songs, I don't really like the original songs, and the way they worked them didn't change that much. There's also Rick Wakeman's versions of Eleanor Rigby and Pain it Black, which I do love the originals and Wakeman's versions. I only wish he did some version of them with vocals.
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 04:56
^Has Wakeman even been know to do vocals at all?
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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 12:24
I voted for the middle option because one cover I absolutely hate is the Scissor Sisters' Comfortably Numb, which would fit under option 4.
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 13:37
AlanB wrote:
I voted for the middle option because one cover I absolutely hate is the Scissor Sisters' Comfortably Numb, which would fit under option 4.
That makes me shudder every time it's mentioned - if I never hear that ever again it will be too soon.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 22:47
AlanB wrote:
I voted for the middle option because one cover I absolutely hate is the Scissor Sisters' Comfortably Numb, which would fit under option 4.
It's the answer to the question What if the Bee Gees ever did prog? I don't think it's a question that ever needed asking though.
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 10:50
richardh wrote:
What if the Bee Gees ever did prog?
They'd need looser trousers.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 10:51
Floydoid wrote:
richardh wrote:
What if the Bee Gees ever did prog?
They'd need looser trousers.
true
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 16:07
Floydoid wrote:
richardh wrote:
What if the Bee Gees ever did prog?
They'd need looser trousers.
I was waiting for someone to post up a notorious 'prog album' cover from 1978 but I'm not doing it
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 17 2024 at 19:43
Floydoid wrote:
^Has Wakeman even been know to do vocals at all?
I think there was one of his 80's albums that did feature him singing. Cost of Living or one of those. Yet I don't recall having heard such song. However, I certainly meant him getting a singer to do the vocals, as he has always done.
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 17 2024 at 19:54
richardh wrote:
Floydoid wrote:
richardh wrote:
What if the Bee Gees ever did prog?
They'd need looser trousers.
I was waiting for someone to post up a notorious 'prog album' cover from 1978 but I'm not doing it
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