25 other bands. Choose a least/less liked by you
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Topic: 25 other bands. Choose a least/less liked by you
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 25 other bands. Choose a least/less liked by you
Date Posted: May 29 2024 at 18:08
I did a https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133017" rel="nofollow - 25 bands I like. Choose a least/less liked by you which perhaps did cover too many of thew usual suspects from me. So here is one that covers ones that don't get as much coverage from me. I'm avoiding many of the biggest names in Prog, and like in the other poll, I am trying to cover some which seem to elicit quite polarising reactions.
Quoting from my first post in the other poll:
The idea is to vote for one, just one of these bands, that you have listened to music by that did not do it for you or did it for you the least from what you know. Preferably you will have listened to at least one full album by the act, or various music across various albums by the act, but that need not be the case.
It is normal that some albums or tracks might do it more for you than others by these bands, but I don't wish it to be judged based just on the material you least like by an act (when you might already really like other material by the act), but preferably vote for an act that just did not appeal at all, or much, or least, across your listening of said band. Or approach it as best you can in regards to what you would think suits this poll.
If voting for one that seemed not to your tastes, please mention the listened to by you material if you recall. I do hope for discussion element to polls I create, and like specificity as much as possible.
If you don't want to play as requested and instead came here to complain about the poll, please just stay away. And maybe make your own awesome poll. I say this because I received such complaints before years ago for a topic with a somewhat similar theme.
And if one is to say, "None of them", or some such sentiment, I would ask to be much more specific, explain your position, and go into details about what you have heard of these. |
But I want to add to that because I don't think that was sufficient to start with. The purpose of this is mostly entertainment like most any poll. It's really not important, not profound, but hopefully the exercise can be enjoyable and lead to some amicable discussion. I enjoy evaluating and re-evaluating what I like and don't like (I really do not have as static tastes and interests as many), and sometimes someone points out to me a piece of music or an album by an artist that I have not appreciated beforehand, and I really do enjoy the song/album. Sometimes I might even have heard that same music before and I like it now despite not liking it before. That "sharing" has opened up new worlds to me. I appreciate the efforts of people to make recommendations and try to connect me with music from artists that I have stated not being into. Maybe that's because I did not explore enough, heard the wrong stuff, heard the right stuff at the wrong time, in the wrong and with thew wrong expectations. Such topics can lead to discovery and re-assessments if we are communicative with each other, open-minded and attentive.
I enjoy when talking music sharing with people what I like and don't like, exploring what others like and don't like, talking about such things, and making assessments and re-assessments. I enjoy reading people's ideas and seeing how they approach topics. I actually do tend to ignore the poll results, it's the communication through posts that I enjoy. Differences of opinion are healthy, and sometimes people's opinions grew together (synthesis). I feel like these explorations can help me to get to know myself and others better and can make me feel closer to people and more a part of a community. Mostly though, it's just for fun. It can be a positive and enjoyable exercise, and it can be the opposite. If it's not fun for you, you might want to find something else that is fun to do. But there's more to life than fun. And a little pain can be a pleasure. We might even get some decent arguing out of this! :D
I later will share which albums have connected with me the most by which acts and which acts never has least connected with me from those I know reasonably well. The one I really love various albums by of these is Jethro Tull.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 29 2024 at 18:50
Haha, I see some more negativity flying at this in my crystal ball, but anyway, I like these polls. It's a bit hard because I don't spend much time on bands that I don't like, so in many cases my knowledge of them is very limited. And then none of these bands as far as I know them (most of course) is really bad. OK, I'll vote Queensryche, not because I'd be really negative on them but rather because I have consciously heard two of their albums and couldn't find anything that I found really attractive (all other bands I have heard have at least something of this kind).
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 29 2024 at 18:54
I always find The Flower Kings to be bland, but I enjoy Stolt's guitar playing.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 29 2024 at 18:57
The nice thing about these polls is that they require a different kind of thinking than the standard positive ones. They divert some of our attention to the bands we don't like that much, which actually may even help our appreciation. So these polls can actually be positive. (For example I'm now asking myself whether I'm unfair on Queensryche, and may listen once more; same Comus in the earlier one.)
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: May 29 2024 at 19:28
Some of my favorites in this group: Rush, ELP, Kansas, PT, Mahavisnu Orchestra, Big Big Train, Tull...
Eloy is the pick. Never moved the needle with me.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: May 29 2024 at 21:59
Of the ones I have heard as of now, TFK almost clinched it. I never have a bad time listening to their albums but... if one named a tune and asked me to hum something from it after just listening, I'd have a hard time remembering. Just because the updated CD format in the mid-90s allowed for up to around 80 minutes of music didn't mean we always needed to try to push it to its limits. And it CERTAINLY doesn't mean we needed TWO discs-worth of Yes-aping. Good stuff, just not memorable.
But instead, I went with Riverside. Similarly, I find them enjoyable, but as of now, they just don't grab me.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 00:00
Ozric Tentacles probably.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 00:20
None! Some of the bands listed I have not listened to very much, but it's not that I dislike any of them. There's just so much to listen to ...
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 00:36
Too many here I've written off as not for me long ago to vote for a spesific band. I only really like early Jethro Tull and Return to Forever here (and the odd song from another handful of bands). There's something about Neo Prog that has never failed to rub me the wrong way. The sheer sound of it, the melodic lines, the politeness... nothing about it is for me. I much rather listen to some well-crafted AOR.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 00:37
Uriah Heep. Too often hit and miss, though I liked the debut a bit.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 01:19
This is quite easy for me... there is only one band on this list I really struggle with..
The Mars Volta
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 04:59
Riverside has never really clicked with me, as well as bands that sound similar to Riverside. Not sure exactly why, but maybe they'll click with me a few years from now. There are a couple other bands in the list that I've also not clicked with, but chose Riverside because I spent more time trying to like it than the others. It's always a holiday inside my clothes hamper.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 05:02
Porcupine Tree. Really tried to get into them. They still don't ring any bells.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 05:17
The Flower Kings. There are a few that I have not listened to a full album by (Pain of Salvation, Pendragon, Symphony X), so they weren't considered. I don't dislike the Flower Kings but listening to them feels tedious.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 05:48
The Mars Volta without a doubt, followed very close by Queensryche and Symphony X.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 06:05
Bunch of bands I've checkout a lot and have consistently not connected with me at all. Hard to pick who I would avoid most, I went with Dream Theater but it could be any of
Dream Theater Big Big Train Flower Kings Marillion Kansas Queensryche
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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 06:24
Eloy
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 07:03
Ozric Tentacles
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 07:13
Floydoid wrote:
Eloy |
It seems quite odd for a PF fan to pick Eloy out of a list of 25 bands as the one you like the least, especially given what's on offer?
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 07:23
Voted for The Mars Volta (least liked) instead of Magenta (most liked).
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 07:43
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Voted for The Mars Volta (least liked) instead of Magenta (most liked).  |
I'd have thought Magenta were impossible to like least...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 07:58
Ther's more than one in the list to whom I can't get into. But I think Queensryche is the one.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 09:19
There is something to appreciate (at least some songs or entire albums) in most of these and some that I enjoy very much. I hesitate here to vote for either The Flower Kings or Transatlantic: two of the most exquisite "prog by numbers" bands that exist, in my opinion. I'll give it to TFK...
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 11:59
I just can't get into TFK.
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 12:28
Quite a few in here that I tried and didn't click with; I think most of these were the first wave of 'prog dissilusionment' that pushed me towards the more 'out there' bands in your other lists. In particular, I tried but didn't get far with Eloy, Dream Theatre, ELP, Ozric, Kansas.
In the end I gave my vote to Ozric, but it was close amongst all 5 of those.
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 13:39
I've looked at this list a few times now and I really can't think of any that I actually dislike, but ranking them in order at the bottom of my list would be Ozric Tentacles.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 16:27
I'm not pulling any punches because some of my favourite bands (Rush, Eloy and BBT especially) are picking up votes.
Mahavishnu without a doubt. Off the scale amazing playing that goes nowhere, drowning in a sea of dazzling pyrotechnics. That said I could easily have voted for Transatlantic, probably the least interesting so called 'supergroup' in the history of music. Prog by numbers.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 30 2024 at 21:12
Manuel wrote:
The Mars Volta without a doubt, followed very close by Queensryche and Symphony X. |
Same. Never managed to develop a taste for The Mars Volta. Great band name though.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 31 2024 at 03:10
richardh wrote:
I'm not pulling any punches because some of my favourite bands (Rush, Eloy and BBT especially) are picking up votes. |
I guess that some of these votes are the result of people who don't read the OP, nor the poll question, and who just voted for the band they prefer... (since that's what polls generally ask for). It's Pavlovian...
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 31 2024 at 03:21
suitkees wrote:
richardh wrote:
I'm not pulling any punches because some of my favourite bands (Rush, Eloy and BBT especially) are picking up votes. |
I guess that some of these votes are the result of people who don't read the OP, nor the poll question, and who just voted for the band they prefer... (since that's what polls generally ask for). It's Pavlovian...
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Like me, for instance, when I voted for Tangerine Dream in the previous poll. 
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 31 2024 at 03:26
^ Yes, but at least you tell us, so we know the intent behind your vote. We have to guess about others.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 31 2024 at 06:26
Complaints I have read outside of this forum about the Prog Archives forum concern us being too list obsessed, too poll obsessed, and not having enough actual discussion about music. I do think things like Twitter and polls, and Smart Phones generally, have shortened people's attention spans and sense of exploration, so they are more likely to react than read and think first. It's become more of a fast food culture, and I do understand that people's time is precious (mine is worth at least a shekel an hour) and often people are posting using phones and things while doing other things. It does feel like discussion forums have becomes less about conversation and exploring ideas over time and more about just reacting and going through routines. Not bad for me because I'm not very good at conversation, at thinking things through well, and expressing myself when it comes to music. Maybe one day all posts will be generated by AIs to impress other AIs. ;) That said, it's clear in this thread and others that many do read and are thoughtful when it comes to their responses, and the art of conversation is hardly dead. Not surprisingly, it seems to be mostly the "silent" voter type (not a practice I got into) who have seemed really careless from my observations over the years. I appreciate Paul's honesty. Some have become angry at me, or taken issue with me, for "fooling them" or doing it differently than the norm, by not just doing another favourite or best poll despite that I had specified the expectations in the OP and poll question. This place can become too routine, I feel.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 31 2024 at 07:59
^I don't see much difference between PA and other music discussion websites. Most have top ten, best of, and favorite polls. I agree that polls becomes routine but nothing can change that.
I remember your thread that asked to pick favorite songs from a certain period of time. It was very interesting, and yet there was hardly any participation. It was an attempt to discuss music and I enjoyed it.
PA is still the best prog music site in my eyes. Most forum posters are more comfortable casting a vote for a favorite than discussion.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 31 2024 at 09:12
^ I am a list maker of course, and always have liked to make lists. The forums where I have seen that sentiment did not have polls as I recall. Most recently I read such a things at progressive ears. Comments like this and maybe at reddit: https://www.progressiveears.org/forum/showthread.php/21816-Progarchives?p=797980&viewfull=1#post797980" rel="nofollow - CLICK
The forums I used to belong to did not have polls, but that was late 90s to early 2000s. I really like the Prog Archives forum, and find it entertaining. I like community here even though it can be a little dysfunctional (like most any community). It's the only forum I post at or want to post at now. I have also seen claims that the topics are not as interesting here than at certain other forums, but I don't find it to be so, on the contrary. It is often said the grass is [perceived as] greener on the other side of the fence, but I think some are just green with jealousy. ;) That is likely why I have been here for over 18 years, and it was great when I joined, and I still like it here very much. I actually think the discussion has rather improved when compared to, say, 2004, but maybe that's just because it improved me as part of it (I started posting in early 2005 under another account). I enjoyed those through the years topics even if few participated, and I really appreciated your participation. Anyway, I ramble.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 31 2024 at 23:47
I guess I would likely go to PE if this forum stopped existing. Ultimately I like to get recommendations and that is better when there are comments that go with lists. I post my lists more for my own purposes so that I can keep my brain in some sort of order. I actually have started creating lists just in my brain and going over them constantly. For instance a top ten keyboard player list and a top ten Pink Floyd songs and things like that. I may just be going slightly insane admittedly
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 01 2024 at 05:56
Looking at the topics at PE, it just feels bit more narrow than here. Lots of ones on specific bands. I also like recommendations and with that I do like comments. I like commentary; not been into the super brief one or two word style posting. I tend to go to the other extreme with bloated posts. AH well, there's beauty in variety. I would say that I make lists partially to keep my brain in order and functional. I also would say that listening to music in large part is to keep my brain in order. The patterns help with the chaos and maelstrom of my mind (to be overly dramatic). I'm ever seeking patterns. We can see them when they are not there, but making lists and listening to music helps to keep my brain in order, and I enjoy the not too taxing intellectual exercise of coming up with lists. I find it can centre me. So can doing Cryptic Crosswords etc.
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Posted By: RockHound
Date Posted: June 01 2024 at 10:12
Nearly all these bands get my adrenaline rolling. The only ones I lack preference for are Eloy, Queensryche, and Uriah Help. Not bad, just not my cup of tea.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 01 2024 at 10:18
On this list I like all of these bands. The one that I like the least is probably The Mars Volta as I find their vocals to be difficult to listen.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 01 2024 at 18:06
My favourites here are early Jethro Tull, a few Ozric Tentacles albums (not past early 90s), i enjoy various Rush (and was once a huge fan of Hemispheres), I like ELP's debut, MO's Visions of the Emerald Beyond, and liked music off Mars Volta's Frances the Mute, Bedlam, and Amputechture. I had bought a CD of De-Loused in the Comatorium in 2004 or 2005 and really disliked it. Oh, and I like various Big Big Train. .
The bands here I had the biggest issues with were... Spock's Beard: I bought Snow on CD in 2004 or 2005 having seen it recommended to fans of Gentle Giant, and heartily disliked it. Transatlantic: I bought SMPTe, or maybe it was Bridge Across Forever?, at the same time as Spock's beard and heartily disliked it. The Flower Kings: I think it was Space Revolver that I bought base dona recommendation, and not for me. Porcupine Tree: I also bought In absentia at the same time and really disliked it.
By the way, I was not being careful with money then as I was doing very well financially. I gave all those albums to a friend anyway, and hopefully he liked them.
People have pointed me, or I have pointed myself, towards music that I like of most of these subsequently (I do like to challenge myself and try more if It seems I may appeal and others make suggestions, which is a reason why I like sharing what we are into and not into -- impressions can change if one is willing to try and open-eared -- one needs the time and inclination). Usually if a band has a fairly diverse output over the years that are not just of styles anathema to me then I can find something to like. I do like to give them a fair shot and not judge too quickly based on too limited material and over too limited a time. On one day something might click and not on another.
I'll go with Transatlantic as I have tried multiple albums, and while it had its moments, I have not wanted to return to the band. Doesn't mean it won't, but if I do it likely will be because someone asks me to or because of a topic I am interested in exploring or because they make an album with Robert Wyatt, Magma, Portishead, Anna von Hausswolff, Lingua Ignota, Art Zoyd, Weyes Blood, Boards of Canada, black midi, Swans.... Morse with Lingua Ignota, that would be something.
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Posted By: altered_beast
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 12:25
LOL! Glad I’m not the only person who can’t stand Mars Volta. Surprised to see so much hate for Rush and hardly any hate for ELP. I actually thought ELP would get the largest amount of disgust.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 13:51
If Neal Morse were ever to work with any RIO artists, the collaboration would undoubtedly be interesting. I would guess it would not work for either fan base.
Maybe someone could get an AI to do an Art Zoyd/Neal Morse concoction.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 17:29
altered_beast wrote:
LOL! Glad I’m not the only person who can’t stand Mars Volta. Surprised to see so much hate for Rush and hardly any hate for ELP. I actually thought ELP would get the largest amount of disgust. |
ELP are well respected I'd think (if not all of their albums); they are "Big 6" member for a reason. I don't think many people feel really negative about them, there are just a number of people who think they are not quite as great as some others say they are. They may be disappointing for some given the hype (in the old days), but they are hardly bad in absolute terms.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 22:49
^ on a big six poll that was going round, ELP were getting the most votes followed by Tull (although the question was more along the lines of 'who would you replace on the top 6' than actually dislike. ELP earned their reputation by being there at the start. It seems that Rush (and maybe a few others) perhaps are seen as ''second generation'' prog bands. The votes for The Mars Volta suprise me a little. I don't listen to them that often but they cut through and became important to a lot of prog fans. Bands such as IQ and Magenta are far less interesting so they seem to get a 'pass' somehow. Might have been interesting of Muse had been included on the list. I think they would have attracted a few votes. I consider them an art pop/rock band exploring quite proggy areas with some tracks.
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Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 01:05
Love 90% of all of these fantastic bands! The band that I don’t like is big train.
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