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Topic: Best of the first four Camel albums
Posted By: AJ Junior
Subject: Best of the first four Camel albums
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 14:58
Out of these four, I chose the debut. It holds a special place in my heart and features some of the greatest classic melodic work of any band ever.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 15:03
I also went for the debut, because it's the more energetic and up-front album of theirs

TBH, I'm not a big Camel fan, especially their symphonic ways and the one I like least is Snowgoose.


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 16:11
1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. The Snow Goose


Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 16:14
Snow Goose

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 16:15

definitely The Snow Goose


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 16:21
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. The Snow Goose


Pretty much that, but the top three are all so close I have changed my mind on the order a few times.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 16:47
I feel that Camel really outdid themselves with The Snow Goose. It's my favourite and I think the best as well. I do like all four. Mirage would be my second pick, then maybe the debut followed by Moonmadness (but I have not listened to those in full in many years).


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 17:19
1) The Snow Goose. It's the best album of all time for me.
2) Moonmadness
3) Mirage
4) Camel
Mind you, they're all at least excellent


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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: February 08 2024 at 23:58
The Snow Goose
Moonmadness
Mirage
Camel


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 00:26
The Snow Goose.

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 02:26
absolutely love all four, but gone for Mirage

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 05:53
It could be any of the 4 albums in the list. I love Camel's music.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 06:16
No vote - I dig them all, and it depends on my mood.

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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 07:18
Mirage > The Snow Goose > Camel > Moonmadness

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 08:40
Love them all, but probably:

1 Mirage
2 Moonmadness
3 Camel
4 Snow Goose


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 08:42
The debut is underrated, deserves more love. Big smile


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 08:55
Moonmadness. This post is surrounded by bees.

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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 09:55
Moonmadness for me..

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 10:25

Uhm, I love the present result for The Snow Goose, which I actually didn't expect.


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 10:27
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Uhm, I love the present result for The Snow Goose, which I actually didn't expect.
Me neither. I thought Moonmadness would win easily. 


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 14:09
Moonmadness is my favorite
All 4 received regular listenings


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 14:14
My vote is for snowgoose but I know Moonmadness will win because it's their all around most popular.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 14:40
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

My vote is for snowgoose but I know Moonmadness will win because it's their all around most popular.

How have you reached that conclusion, but if so, it's quite a moon madness to me. Big smile




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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 14:50
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

My vote is for snowgoose but I know Moonmadness will win because it's their all around most popular.

How have you reached that conclusion, but if so, it's quite a moon madness to me.




I'm going mostly by polls and ratings on here and ratings on rate your music and maybe some other places as well.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 15:01
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

My vote is for snowgoose but I know Moonmadness will win because it's their all around most popular.
How have you reached that conclusion, but if so, it's quite a moon madness to me.
I'm going mostly by polls and ratings on here and ratings on rate your music and maybe some other places as well.

If only to look at the ratings on RYM and PA, Mirage is very clearly the most popular, and it wouldn't suprise me if we haven't seen the best voting for Mirage here yet.



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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 15:09
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

My vote is for snowgoose but I know Moonmadness will win because it's their all around most popular.
How have you reached that conclusion, but if so, it's quite a moon madness to me.
I'm going mostly by polls and ratings on here and ratings on rate your music and maybe some other places as well.

If only to look at the ratings on RYM and PA, Mirage is very clearly the most popular, and it wouldn't suprise me if we haven't seen the best voting for Mirage here yet.


Well, I just looked it up and saw five polls between MM and Mirage and MM won three and two others where they tied. Plus MM is beating Mirage in this one so far.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 16:13
I'm a fan. I love all of them equally. 


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 17:41
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Well, I just looked it up and saw five polls between MM and Mirage and MM won three and two others where they tied. Plus MM is beating Mirage in this one so far.

Anyway, until some years ago, The Snow Goose was the most appreciated Camel album. 


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Posted By: Moonshake
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 17:48
The Snow Goose


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 09 2024 at 18:57
Throwing one in there for the debut.

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 10 2024 at 01:37
Goose
Moon
Mirage
Camel

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all the birds are leaving,
But how can they know,
it's time for them to go?
Before the winter fire,
I will still be dreaming,
I have no thought of time.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2024 at 05:22

When talking about Mirage, it looks in some ways to me similar to and probably at least partly inspired by Khan's Space Shanty, but I find Space Shanty not so little better - even I haven't listened that much to Mirage.


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 10 2024 at 10:49
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Well, I just looked it up and saw five polls between MM and Mirage and MM won three and two others where they tied. Plus MM is beating Mirage in this one so far.

Anyway, until some years ago, The Snow Goose was the most appreciated Camel album. 

It seems like it used to be just like Fragile was the most appreciated Yes album.


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: February 10 2024 at 15:31
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Uhm, I love the present result for The Snow Goose, which I actually didn't expect.

I think some people don't fully understand that the Snow Goose is an adaption of a novella by Paul Gallico and that, in order to actually appreciate it fully, you HAVE to have read that story.
It tells a story without words, and that's incredible.
The only vaguely comparable piece I can think of is Peter and the Wolf, which still has to use a narrator to link the instrumental sections.


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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: February 12 2024 at 00:18
The Snow Goose

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 12 2024 at 16:19
Mirage is clearly my favorite from them.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 12 2024 at 16:44
Thought this was an old poll that was bumped up as has been the case recently. Pretty sure it's been done before but maybe I'm wrong. Anyway always going to be The Snow Goose which rivals Wakeman's Six Wives Of Henry VIII for best instrumental prog rock album. Mirage is a perfect album but I'm not convinced it ever added anything new to the prog canon. Moonmadness is decent but for me slightly below those. Not sure if I even own the debut or have properly listened to it.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 13 2024 at 09:43
Voted Moonmadness but Mirage is also close for me. I always thought Snow Goose was a bit boring at times and I didnt care for the short song motif even if they blended together.

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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 13 2024 at 10:46
Snow Goose. Love that album from first time I heard it. Moonmadness would be second. It does have my all-time favorite from Camel, Lunar Sea.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 13 2024 at 18:02
^ the first time I ever heard Camel was 'Lunar Sea' on Alan 'Fluff' Freeman's Saturday Afternoon Rock Show on BBC radio 1. He was a massive prog fan and the show who ran for about 5 years between 1973 and 1978. The good ole days. Smile


Posted By: barbera
Date Posted: February 13 2024 at 20:02
I'm not sure why, but every time I listen to Mirage, I feel like a cigarette... BTW, the Goose is probably the best composed album from Camel. The re-recording is even better...


Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: February 18 2024 at 13:46
Mirage, if only for Lady Fantasy and the Nimrodel suite.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 18 2024 at 15:17
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. The Snow Goose
same

sorry all, but TSG is borderline elevator muzak to me, never got the appeal


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 19 2024 at 09:51
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. The Snow Goose
same

sorry all, but TSG is borderline elevator muzak to me, never got the appeal


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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: February 20 2024 at 08:31
I like them all, but Monmadness sounds like sheer perfection to me. Even "minor" tracks, like Spirit Of The Water, are fabulous.


Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: February 22 2024 at 03:14
1.Moonmadness
2.The Snow Goose
3. Camel / Mirage


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Posted By: Error Code 864G
Date Posted: February 26 2024 at 20:37
moonmadness for sure!

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Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: February 26 2024 at 21:03
Moonmadness....but....it's like this really:

1) Moonmadness
1a) Snow Goose
1b) Mirage
1c) Camel

Hard to choose the most perfect of perfection.


Posted By: poseído del alba
Date Posted: September 09 2024 at 16:25
1) Snow Goose
2) Moonmadness
3) Mirage
4) Camel

As much as I care for all 4, I think Snow Goose stands out. By the way, I don't believe I've heard the new version yet but I've been reading it might even be better than the original. Guess I'll have to listen...


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 09 2024 at 17:16
The Snow Goose really excels for me.

1. The Snow Goose
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. Moonmadness

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Posted By: poseído del alba
Date Posted: September 09 2024 at 18:39
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:


I think some people don't fully understand that the Snow Goose is an adaption of a novella by Paul Gallico and that, in order to actually appreciate it fully, you HAVE to have read that story.
It tells a story without words, and that's incredible.
The only vaguely comparable piece I can think of is Peter and the Wolf, which still has to use a narrator to link the instrumental sections.


I always liked the fact that the music was inspired by this story. I read it a while ago and I'm not entirely sure it changed my perception of the album, but I very much dig the themes and the imagery. It's sort of cinematic and in my mind it's like listening to Garofano Rosso by BMS or some Goblin albums.


Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: September 10 2024 at 00:49
The Snow Goose - by a mile IMO.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 10 2024 at 03:22
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

The Snow Goose - by a mile IMO.

I'm not sure I would go that far because Mirage is really great but TSG is definitely the best of their 70s albums imo. Moonmadness is very good but aside from Lunar Sea it doesn't have much of the "wow" factor for me. The Snowgoose has that in spades. 


Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: September 10 2024 at 11:11
I'm possibly a bit biased because I saw them live in 1975, and was at one of the few gigs when they played TSG in its entirety to promote the album... my 'by a mile' comment you can probably take with a pinch of salt, all things considered.

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