Chat using Skype ... post your user names
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Topic: Chat using Skype ... post your user names
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: Chat using Skype ... post your user names
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 07:50
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I'm using Skype ... and I think it's nice for chatting. It's like any other instant messenger, except that it just works - not only for voice communication, but also 1 - 1 chat, group chat and file transfer. My IDs are:
You're welcome to post your user names, so that we can add each other to our buddy list. One good thing about Skype is that you can choose not to reveal if you're online ... if you wish, your online status can be totally invisible. What do you say? Please post also if you don't like Skype for some reason ... I'd be interested in all kinds of opinions. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 07:56
| That's a Kaaza product Mike- are you sure you want to use it? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:02
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cobb: Read this: http://www.skype.com/products/explained.html - http://www.skype.com/products/explained.html It doesn't have anything to do with file sharing, and there are no indication of any spyware functions. It would surely be best if they offered the source code to the client (open source), but I can understand that they don't do that.
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:22
| Does it have anything that MSN Messenger doesn't have? |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:40
| Yeah, VOIP. But there are better and cheeper options for this, at least in Australia. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:41
Than free?  Or are you talking about computer to telephone?
my username is tgoose. |
cobb wrote:Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:42
I was of the understanding they did bundle some of the same scumware that Kaaza contains. |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:43
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Yeah, goose that's right broadband internet to the public telephone system. VOIP also allows you to ring normal telephones. I use VOIP for my business telephone system, as it is by far the cheapest solution. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:50
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Me and Mike are chatting on it now.Pretty cool program. -------------  |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 08:58
Here's just something I picked up with a quick search on skype +spywareThink twice before deleting that Kazaa-Skype spywarePosted by Russell Shaw @ 12:59 pm
The late, great Warren Zevon's "Send Lawyers, Guns and Money" epitomized his view of the roots and exercise of power. So when someone who knows a good bit about this nexus speaks, I for one, have a tendency to listen. http://www.benedelman.org/ - Ben Edelman knows a lot about the lawyers and money part. He's a Ph.D. candidate at the Harvard School of Economics and a student at Harvard Law, and a http://www.benedelman.org/publications/ - frequent commentator on Internet-related legal issues. He wrote me this morning to comment on my post, in which http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/index.php?p=98 - I noted that when I downloaded and installed the Kazaa-Skype bundle yesterday, I obtained more than 2,500 adware files. Ben sent a link to an artice he wrote, in which http://www.benedelman.org/news/112904-1.html - he notes that in their license document, one of the leading spyware hitchikers on Kazaa-Skype downloads fails to list anti-spyware utilities as an authorized means of removing their files from your PC. He quotes: "You agree that you will not use, or encourage others to use, any unauthorized means for the removal of the GAIN AdServer, or any GAIN-Supported Software from a computer." Well, I suppose I could say that I never claimed I had used PestPatrol to make things right again. Nor did I "encourage" you to do so. I only said I was going to. I say I am "going to do" a lot of things. So maybe I did, and maybe I didn't. But if "they" come after me, I can imagine the cellblock conversation a year from now. "What are you in for, man?" Breaking and entering." And you? "Hot-wiring a car." And you? "using PestPatrol to clean up my hard-drive Registry." Maybe the best solution then, would be to do what Brian Turner of http://www.platinax.co.uk/news/ - Platinax Internet News wrote back in response to my post. Brian http://www.platinax.co.uk/news/archives/2004/12/install_skypeka.html - recommends thatif you don't want all that adware, then just download the separate http://www.skype.com/ - Skype utility. |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 09:06
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Here's another gem straight from EULA Skype EULA says it's spyware/backdoor trojan? i was looking over » http://www.skype.com/eula.html - www.skype.com/eula.html and i found the following entry pretty worrying: 9. Disclaimer of Warranties. (c) THE SKYPE SOFTWARE IS UTILIZED AND DISTRIBUTED BY THIRD PARTIES WHICH ARE UNRELATED TO SKYPER. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT INSTALLATION OF THE SKYPE SOFTWARE WILL ALLOW THIRD PARTIES WHO ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH SKYPER THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR COMPUTER ("OUTSIDE PARTIES"). YOU AGREE THAT SKYPER WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGE, CLAIM OR LOSS OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES AS STATED IN PARAGRAPH 9(a) ABOVE, RESULTING FROM ANY ACTIONS OR OMISSIONS OF THE OUTSIDE PARTIES. Sorry guys, basically you are f**ked!! |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 09:44
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Um... how can you have a conversation with anyone online if no one can communicate with your computer?
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 09:47
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 09:58
Anyhow, people are working on an open source alternative anyway, which I'll replace Skype with, because whether it has spyware or not, open source makes me feel warm inside 
edit: called OpenWengo, for the interested. Watch this space, or that space. |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:00
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What's your point goose? Skype is owned by Kaaza and contains all the GAIN crap and more, and what's more when it is installed you tick the box to say any third party can gain access to your computer via skype backdoors. Is this a VOIP solution for any sensible person- I think not! |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:01
I'm sure every country has many VOIP companies that are more honest than skype- that's all I'm trying to say. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:05
No software is bundled, no ads, no spyware. I haven't heard anything to the contrary. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:05
You need to read that highlighted line again- it is not refering to legit communication for/by the user. Read up on GAIN |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:07
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There is no evidence for that. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:09
It doesn't necesarily say anything about back doors - that clause could equally refer to the way individual users connect directly to your computer rather than through any central server. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I don't see that Skype would need to support itself with third party advertising, since basically every screen tells me to buy Skype credit 
edit: I'm assuming of course that this allows communication with the Skype network. If not, I'm buggered. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:09
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Sorry, this is really just a necessary disclaimer because the skype software allows other users' computers to open connection to my computer. This is because any communication between skype users is done without any participation of a central server. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:10
I didn't make up clause 9 in the EULA. Not trying to get anybody offside here, this is just my understanding of Skype. Off subject- listening to Sieges Even. Thanks for the good wrap you gave them, went out and got it. It's good stuff. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:13
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cobb: we just differ in our understanding of that disclaimer, that's all. I know many adware/spyware programs, and out of my own experience I can say that Skype is neither. On Sieges Even: What do you mean ... the link on my homepage or my thread? Thanks anyway! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:15
Both |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:17
| I'm almost positive I don't have any GAIN, although of course I can't be certain (although I believe) there's no spyware from anyone else with it. I'll get a second spyware checker to verify it, anyhow. Did someone from here just add me? |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:19
i like skype - most of my mates are on it -my user name is shannipop (a nickname after my daughter)  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:22
| Aha! |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:24
| I read quite a bit about Sharman Networks here in Australia in the local computer magazines, they were quick to put Skype down and tell it for what it was. They were raided recently, and just lost the case involving kaaza. As an afterthought, those articles I posted were American articles, so GAIN is certainly include in the US Skype- don't know about Europe though. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:27
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There may or may not have been a choice to install GAIN stuff with it, I just automatically cancel it when I see anything like that anyway
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:32
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whats up with skype ? i like it
msn has more problems because hackers hate microsoft ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:35
i added you ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:35
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The article you quoted sounded very dated ... it has been two years since Skype was bundled with Kazaa. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:50
| Turns out OpenWengo is not compatible with Skype, but WengoPhoneNG (which is currently being worked on) will be. Possibly. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 11:03
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I just did a spyware scan and haven't noticed anything unusual. Anyway...my Skype id is the same as my forum name here:TheProgtologist ------------- |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 11:09
i added you too ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |