Pawn Hearts vs Godbluff
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Topic: Pawn Hearts vs Godbluff
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Subject: Pawn Hearts vs Godbluff
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 13:12
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In another thread, I stated a belief that true Van der Graaf Generator fans prefer "Pawn Hearts" over "Godbluff". In that thread, I provided some justification for this belief. However, in this thread, I decided to put it to a more direct test. The idea is to not only separate those who prefer "Pawn Hearts" from those who prefer "Godbluff", but to correlate this with who are and who are not VdGG fans. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 13:22
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I choose Godbluff by default but I like both .. huge VDGG/PH fan 
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 13:51
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A fan and prefer Pawn Hearts. My throw pillows don't have enough cooking surface area. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 14:13
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I am a fan of VDGG, but I'm not that much of a fan of Godbluff. It never got me. Hard to say why, just it doesn't resonate much with me. I wouldn't even put it in the first half of their albums. Pawn Hearts is great though. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 14:15
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Hearing Pawn Hearts made me a fan, plus music off H to He. Godbluff proved much more challenging to me, although I now do like it more. Godbluff is an album that I appreciate to variable degrees depending on the day. Voting for the first option. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 14:26
I'd say, with the very little statistic material you can get here, this poll can't prove anything concerning non-fans.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
I prophesy disaster wrote:Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 14:34
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Prophesy, how will you define "a true VdGG fan""? Being very fond of H to He, Godbluff and Still Life, does it make me one? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 14:38
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When i lick my own private parts, i think of Pawn Hearts the most.  -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 14:44
  Not that I want to offend Pawn Hearts lovers. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 14:58
I've given this some thought and decided it best to allow the voters to decide for themselves if they are a true VdGG fan. I'm guessing the word "fan" indicates a love of VdGG music that is beyond a mere like of their music. Are VdGG high on a list of the voter's favourite groups? Note that I also included a "dislike both" option, which I assume only applies to non-fans. That's because I wanted non-fans to at least like one of the albums to indicate a preference, rather than voting for the one they hate the least. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 14:59
edited ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 15:38
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VDGG fan - Godbluff ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 16:28
If so, I prefer much to be called "aficionado".  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 16:36
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VdGG-fan and voted Pawn Hearts. You're not a real VdGG-fan unless you love it (doesn't have to be your favorite album of theirs of course). |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 18:16
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Pawn my ass! ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 04 2023 at 20:51
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Still Life! In all seriousness, I voted Godbluff A better poll would be which is the better VDGG 3 album Run? Least We Can Do - H to He - Pawn Hearts VS Godbluff - Still Life - World Record I think I'll go make that poll right now actually ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 01:59
| I like both, but voted for Pawn Hearts. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 03:00
I don't see what this poll idea makes it a better one. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 04:34
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VdGG fan and prefer Godbluff. ------------- "PROG IS MY FERRARI". Jem Godfrey (Frost*) |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 06:01
| Not a big fan of VDGG, but I like their music and respect their work. Pawn Hearts takes my vote, but not by much. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 06:21
| I guess I am a casual fan. I am not familiar with their entire catalog but enjoy listening to the albums I do know. I prefer Godbluff, so I guess I am not a true fan. |
Posted By: Euclid
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 07:17
| Both great but Pawn Hearts |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 08:34
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 10:36
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The second option fits me best.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 11:47
Not that I really have an aspiration to be a true VdGG aficionado, but to be honest, this opinion of yours hurts me in relation to my big fondness and admiration of three VdGG albums. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 12:37
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^ If you're that easily hurt, why ask for opinions in the first place? And why does it matter to you? So you're very fond of three VdGG albums. That obviously makes you more of a casual fan. I'm really fond of Fragile, Close to the Edge and Relayer, but I'm not nearly as exited about the rest of their "classic era-albums". I don't think I've listened to any Yes-album from start to finished released after Drama. No actual Yes-fan would consider me a genuine fan.
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Posted By: Moonshake
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 13:03
| Godbluff. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 15:58
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Happy 75 to Peter Hammill, btw! A fan and Godbluff by a mile, don't get all the Pawn Hearts worship honestly But of course the best VDGG album is Still Life, everyone knows that 
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 16:30
Just wanted to point that telling people, they're not true fans, may hurt their feelings. While what is a true fan is a very subjective question.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 17:34
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Is a true fan similar to true prog? Is VdGG true prog? I've never heard Godbluff but Pawn Hearts is cool. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 20:58
No you wrote that YOU were hurt. And what a true fan means is not really all that subjective. Come on, it's not like a "what is art?" kind of question. Fan is short for fanatic. You're obviously nowhere near a VdGG-fanatic. Nothing wrong with that, and not an important issue. Just like with me and Yes, you (really) like a few of their albums.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 05 2023 at 21:01
Pawn Hearts is amazing... but I agree with everything else you said! ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 04:24
| It's a bit like comparing Close To The Edge with Relayer in my opinion (you can decide which is which as you like). As a more longer term set in stone fan of Yes I would vote I'm A Yes Fan and prefer Close To The Edge. I haven't voted here because I'm just not sure which VDGG album of those I prefer (both are equally great). Maybe I'm just a casual fan but I did fork out for that VDGG box set. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 05:38
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Godbluff for sentimental reasons. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 11:32
which one, Rich? Interference Patterns? ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 06 2023 at 20:41
The Charisma Years. I can't afford such things anymore but I couldn't resist that one.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 07 2023 at 11:32
ah, great set. I also have to pick my battles these days, but did splash out £60 on IP last years... beautifully presented and very much worthwhile... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 08 2023 at 03:46
Okay, you're right if to put it that way. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 08 2023 at 07:43
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None of the options describes me well, so I won't vote. I wouldn't consider myself a "fan", but I do like their first six or seven albums or so, including Aerosol Grey Machine which was actually my entrance into the world of VDGG - it is maybe their most 'lighthearted' album and I can appreciate that. I very much enjoy Pawn Hearts as I do enjoy Godbluff, and see no interest for myself to put one over the other so I'd actually choose both... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 08 2023 at 08:10
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^^ And then I'm even more fond of being called "aficionado". ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: charles_ryder
Date Posted: November 08 2023 at 12:32
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I like Pawn Hearts and all the Hammill's solo albums, but I don't like the Godbluff. ------------- om mani padme hum |
Posted By: Van Jackson
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 11:18
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Huge VDGG fan, and I prefer Godbluff. Lighthouse is one of my favorite tracks, though!
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 20:55
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Huge fan of the band and my top three is Pawn Hearts, H to he and Godbluff. In that order. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 21:43
| I'll get off the fence and vote for Pawn Hearts. Am I a fan? I want to be and aspire to be that! |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 25 2024 at 23:31
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Pawn Bluffs? God Hearts? Something of the sort. |