12 classic PA band latest albums & 12 non PA acts
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Topic: 12 classic PA band latest albums & 12 non PA acts
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 12 classic PA band latest albums & 12 non PA acts
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 09:01
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Here I have chosen 12 classic and well-known (big name) Prog bands that were founded from the late 60s to early 70s, listed the last released studio album and paired those years up with albums from acts not in Prog Archives. I would have included Gentle Giant, but opted to only include ones that had post 1990 releases. Were there there several more options available for the poll, then I would have liked to include Soft Machine, Tangerine Dream and Kansas. The non-PA album years were contingent on the PA bands, otherwise I would have chosen different albums by some artists. Feel free to vote for one option from each pairing (or more than one if one really wanted to), and one need not be familiar with much here to vote. ------------------------------------------------------------ I made a playlist with a track from each album (of variable quality and qualities). Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4KAErz7zEZI0VVyDIMueNgD" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4KAErz7zEZI0VVyDIMueNgD ------------------------------------------------------------- The pairings: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - In the Hot Seat (1994) Portishead - Dummy (1994) Genesis - ...Calling All Stations... (1997) Stereolab - Dots and Loops (1997) King Crimson - The Power to Believe (2003) Melt-Banana - Cell-Scape (2003) Rush - Clockwork Angels (2012) Melody's Echo Chamber - Melody's Echo Chamber (2012) Camel - The Snow Goose (Re-recording) (2013) OR Camel - A Nod and a Wink (2002)* La Femme - Psycho Tropical Berlin (2013) OR Boards of Canada - Geogaddi (2002)* Renaissance - Grandine il vento (2013) Julia Holter - Loud City Song (2013) Pink Floyd - The Endless River (2014) Chelsea Wolfe - Pain Is Beauty (2014) Van der Graaf Ganerator - Do Not Disturb (2016) Bruno Pernadas - Those Who Throw Objects at the Crocodiles Will Be Asked to Retrieve Them (2016) Yes - The Quest (2021) Lingua Ignota - Sinner Get Ready (2021) Caravan - It’s None of Your Business (2021) otay:onii - Ming Ming (2021) Jethro Tull - The Zealot Gene (2022) Pan Daijing - Tissues (2022) Magma - Kãrtëhl (2022) Weyes Blood - And in the Darkness, Hearts Aglow (2022) ** Note that I added Camel's A Nod and a Wink (2002) to the Camel line and Boards of Canada's 2002 album Geogaddi to the La Femme line as the 2002 out of PA pairing due to a comment about considering A Nod and a Wink to be the last Camel album. Please only vote once in any poll option line as it's an OR proposition. If you voted already for Camel's re-recording but prefer A Nod and Wink, then consider your vote to have gone to the 2002 album. |
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 10:34
| Out of this lot, by far and away it is that wonderful album by Stereolab, one of my all time favourites of any category (I also quite like that ELP album...) |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 10:42
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Very often I only know one of a pairing. Can vote only for Pan Daijing and Lingua Ignota (in fact I don't know In the Hot Seat so I can't even vote for Portishead, but great album there; also The Zealot Gene is not so bad and may have won against some others). |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 11:01
| PF/KC/melody Echo Chamber/Camel/Tull |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 12:29
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Can't really do a pairing. All I could say is that I really dig Clockwork Angels. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 13:31
I was unclear and confusing. I had meant to write that one can vote for as many or as few as one wants with very little or great knowledge of the choices -- so one can vote for one of a pairing without knowing both, or one can just vote for any albums one likes in the list. I was suggesting that one may consider choosing between the yearly pairings if one knows them as a way to limit ones votes, and as a way to maybe address this topic in a post since I'm more interested in the posts themselves, but it's not required. I know all of the non-PA choices in full well and are very liked by me, but not all of the "Prog" band choices so well. Of the "Prog" choices, I have been mot appreciative of the King Crimson and Magma albums. |
Lewian wrote:Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 14:43
| King Crinsom and Jethro Tull. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 17:35
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King Crimson stands alone on this list of the ones I know with Rush a distant second. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 02:24
| Jethro Tull - The Zealot Gene (2022) |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 02:48
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Voted for the four I have the stongest connection with: Dummy Dots & Loops Sinner Get Ready And in the Darkness, Hearts Aglow But there's more non-prog albums here I should check out. Unfortunatly I'm not curious enough to give most of the classic bands latest releases a chance. I have listened to The Power to Believe, Clockwork Angels, Do Not Disturb and Kãrtëhl btw. All of them adequate, even solid releases, but none of them exite enough to ever prioritise relistieng to them - I'm afraid.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 03:14
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1. King Crimson. 2. Rush. 3. Jethro Tull. 4. Stereolab. 5. Magma. ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 05:15
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I like Renaissance and Caravan in the list. Pink Floyd is just "not bad". I think Camel's last album is A Nod And A Wink. It would have my vote ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 07:35
While I decided that I should include that Snow Goose re-recording as Camel's last studio album for the poll, I would have preferred to include 2002's A Nod and a Wink. As the Snow Goose re-recording has four votes -- I much prefer the original studio album and the version on a Live Record from what I have heard of the re-recording -- I won't replace it, but I will add an "OR" to the Camel poll option line for a Nod and a Wink. I would ask those who voted for Camel already not to vote again, not that this is a contest. The Snow Goose's 2013 pairing of La Femme's Psycho Tropical Berlin, which I hope some seek this out, has zero votes anyway. It's all on youtube but you might have to sign in due to some, imo, silly concerns of it being too adult due to the tasty, or should that be tasteful?, breasts on the cover. For 2002 I can add a Boards of Canada album with Geogaddi. I love Boards of Canada. I especially have been playing Music has the Right to Children a lot of late. Very happy to get the chance to add a Boards of Canada album to the poll. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 07:49
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I'm not sure what to vote here.... obviously Clockwork Angels is fabulous. I've ticked Endless River too, even though I've got to be in the mood. Calling All Stations was a bit of a horror show IIRC, but it's 25 years since I heard it. I could tick the Camel, but haven't heard the re-recording (have both the original studio and A Live Record). Yes isn't really Yes after Magnification; flogged 'Fly From Here' on ebay. Renaissance should have called it a day after ASFAS tbh... Now if you'd had included Mike Oldfield's RtO, that would certainly have garnered a vote!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 07:57
^ If I do another, then Mike Oldfield will certainly be on it. He would have fit this big Prog name poll very well. Now added Camel's A Nod and a Wink.... I prefer those earlier versions of A Snow Goose to what I heard of the re-recording. I could have imagined Kenny-G joining in on what little I heard.  For me the original and the A Live Record versions are Camel at its best.
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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 08:22
| I found the Renaissance record surprisingly strong. Definitely the best of this lot that I know of. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 08:45
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I tend to find most bands later output tails off in comparison to their heydays. While Power To Believe is not in my top 5 King Crimson albums is does stand out as maintaining Crimson's standard of excellence after the slightly disappointing previous album. They get my vote.
Very tempted to cote for the Floyd/Chelsea Wolfe pairing based on the CW album but that Floyd album is pretty damn weak. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 12:52
^ Oh, I don't expect people to like both of the pairings, but I meant to consider choosing between those pairings if I read you right. I way prefer Cheleea Wolfe's to Pink Floyd's. People should just vote for any albums they like and want to (just not to vote twice for an option even if it has two albums in it). I too think that KC is a fine album, and actually that is the only pairing where I would be more likely to play the Prog choice often (though I do like Melt-Banana -- noise rock meets Micky Mouse).
I'm not excited by any of the Prog releases here, even if some are quite strong (solid), and I like what I heard of the Renaissance. It is the out of PA ones that excite me here much more (not surprisingly). Those four could get my votes too, but I will go with Julia Holter instead of Weyes Blood. Much as I like music from that Weyes Blood album, Titanic Rising is the one of hers that really excites me the most as a full album now . It so vibrant and engaging. In the Darkness feels more samey to me, but I surely do like it a lot and it may grow on me to rival Titanic at some time (that is a huge one to match). And it seems that I like Front Row Seat to Earth more than great many. With Lingua Ignota, I still favour Caligula, but I do hugely appreciate Sinner too and now am not so in the mood for Caligula (it can be rather overwhelming for me at times, and I am more sensitised sometimes). I'll give a fifth vote since I added it to the Boards of Canada (although I am most infatuated with Music Has the Right to Children right now), but then I would also want to vote for La Femme and otay:onii, Melody's Echo Chamber, Chelsea Wolfe.... All the non-Prog ones I could vote for except Melt-Banana which I love on some days. Hmm, but now I feel listening to it again after all. :) |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 03 2023 at 05:01
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From these album pairings of which I heard both albums: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - In the Hot Seat (1994) Portishead - Dummy (1994) Tough one, because a couple of tracks on the ELP album are excellent, but Dummy is more consistent (and gets my vote) Genesis - ...Calling All Stations... (1997) Stereolab - Dots and Loops (1997) This was an easy one King Crimson - The Power to Believe (2003) Melt-Banana - Cell-Scape (2003) Was very pleasantly surprised by the quality of this KC album when it came out Rush - Clockwork Angels (2012) Melody's Echo Chamber - Melody's Echo Chamber (2012) Another tough one. Clockwork Angels is a good album, but I'm not much into this Rush period and find it very much alike of most of their 90s and 00s albums. MEC is in that sense more interesting to me. Camel - The Snow Goose (Re-recording) (2013) OR Camel - A Nod and a Wink (2002)* La Femme - Psycho Tropical Berlin (2013) OR Boards of Canada - Geogaddi (2002)* Sorry Camel, but La Femme it is (don't think I heard the Boards of Canada album). Renaissance - Grandine il vento (2013) Julia Holter - Loud City Song (2013) Don't know either, but I'm curious to explore Julia Holter's one (which implies that I'm not curious to listen to the Renaissance album - I might be wrong...) Pink Floyd - The Endless River (2014) Chelsea Wolfe - Pain Is Beauty (2014) Don't know the Chelsea Wolfe album and find The Endless River a bit too endless (i.e. boring) Van der Graaf Ganerator - Do Not Disturb (2016) Bruno Pernadas - Those Who Throw Objects at the Crocodiles Will Be Asked to Retrieve Them (2016) Don't know either Yes - The Quest (2021) Lingua Ignota - Sinner Get Ready (2021) One of the most horrible albums in the Yes catalogue, where Sinner Get Ready is one of those big revelations (I think it was Saperlipopette who introduced it here on PA... Thanks for that!) Caravan - It’s None of Your Business (2021) otay:onii - Ming Ming (2021) Don't know either Jethro Tull - The Zealot Gene (2022) Pan Daijing - Tissues (2022) Don't know either Magma - Kãrtëhl (2022) Weyes Blood - And in the Darkness, Hearts Aglow (2022) Listened to the Weyes Blood album (don't know the Magma one) and although each track is quite good and a great listen, a whole album was much too much of the same, from one track to the other. To me.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 09 2023 at 08:07
| Crimson and VDGG are right up there in my top 3 fave albums by those particular artists. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 09 2023 at 10:10
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1. Yes - The Qiuest 2. Renaissance - Grandine Il Vento 3. Pink Floyd - The Endless River I don't know any of the albums they're paired with though.
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