Trick of the Tail Vs. Wind & Wuthering
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Topic: Trick of the Tail Vs. Wind & Wuthering
Posted By: zwordser
Subject: Trick of the Tail Vs. Wind & Wuthering
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 19:20
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I checked: the last time this poll question was posted was in 2007 (though there was another asking about the lyrical content of both albums in 2013). So, it seems good time to ask again. The first two post-Gabriel Genesis albums, same year. Which one do you like more? As for myself, I give a slight edge to W&W, based largely on my love of Blood on the Rooftops, and in spite of the fact that I don't like that Your special Way song too much (though I heard it last week and didn't think it so bad--makes me worry I'm getting too old and soft, or something). ------------- Z |
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 19:29
| Mad Man Moon is Tony's brightest moment. |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 20:27
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Gonna have to give the slight nod to ATOTT, though W&W is amazing as well Funny enough, I actually listen to the Phil Collins prog era (from Trick to ATTWT) more than the Peter Gabriel era these days. There's just something about the atmosphere of those records that hits me a bit harder, especially in autumn  ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 22:12
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Trick just over Wind ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 00:31
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Both are incredible albums but ATOTT is slightly better imho. Plus Tony Banks MMM is worth the vote Alone! ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 00:36
| third option |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 02:14
| I first saw Genesis on the Wind and Wuthering tour so that was very special but I have to give it to 'Trick'. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 02:37
| Mine is the first 'both equally' vote. I can also alternate in terms of which is my fave depending on my mood. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 02:39
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Yes I like them about equally as well |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 02:55
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Trick is flawless, while Wind is hardly so (and not just because of YOSW, I'm not a big fan of Gorilla, and TBH, Afterglow has become a bit irritating over the decades. but those two have the two best Genesis album covers for sure. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 03:01
| Trick of the Tail by a narrow margin. |
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 04:56
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I really like them equally.
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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 04:57
| I like Wind And Wuthering clearly more, so i voted option number 2. I think that tracks like Unquiet Dreams/Quiet Earth, One For The Vine (even the title is great!) and Blood On The Rooftops are greater than anything on ATOTT. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 05:18
Maybe, but Your Own Special Way ruins the flow of the album, not to mention it gets cringy with repeated listens. I agree with what Sean Trane said above about Afterglow. Good song, but it gets old fast.
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Heart of the Matter wrote:Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 05:51
| I've always thought both could make a great doble album. I like them both equally. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 07:03
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My ears dig them equally. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 08:08
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the one without Your Own Special Way ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 08:34
| Trick of the Tail by a wide margin for me. It may be my second favorite Genesis album after Foxtrot. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 09:10
| Trick of the Tail, but only slightly. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 10:17
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Trick of the Tail is a very good 4* album, Wind and Wuthering is a solid but unremarkable 4* album. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 13:16
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A Trick of the Tail is better by a wide margin. Even if "Your Own Special Way" were replaced by "Inside and Out" (as it should have been), both "All in a Mouse's Night" and "Blood on the Rooftops" are a bit "twee" and make Wind and Wuthering a "very good" rather than "great" album.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 13:31
I love those two songs.  |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 15:55
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W&W by a narrow margin. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 17:51
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Trick of the Tail and the margin is quite wide. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 18:06
| I wouldn't say by a wide margin but I do like ATOTT better since I think it's a little more consistent. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 18:06
I'll bet you don't love "your own special way."
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 18:21
| Both equally , both are must have |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 20:10
I never get tired of Wind and Wuthering, but A Trick of Tale does not always grab me, even though I like it a lot as well.  ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 23:44
| I like them equally |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 00:26
I've already said what I think about the song, even in this thread.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 05:12
yep inside and Out is a 5 stars track and would have been a nice addition to W/W Your own special way was probably selected to satisfy a top single request by Charisma or band management All in a mouse's night is imo a very nice track, it deserves its place on W/W |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 05:54
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Trick, but only narrowly. Haven’t listened to either for a while. In fact, I need to have a bit of a Genesis session…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 07:07
| I'm happy with Match Of The Day and with W&W just as they are. Almost every classic Genesis album includes some More Fool Me, or whatever that not everybody likes. Consistency per se doesn't elevate me at all, a great song is rather required. And TBH, Squonk isn't much of an elevator, give me YOSW anytime. Mad Man Moon, Entangled, that ones I love. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 07:18
| like them both equally they both have their different magic Your own special way sort of takes W&W off the perfect album list. Although I like it more now then I did originally. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 08:04
| To those that mentioned "Your Own Special Way", that song is SUPER out of place on the album. It does not fit the record at all... I still think that A Trick of the Tail is only slightly better than Wind & Wuthering..... |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 12:24
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ATOTT by a nose. Or a tail, I suppose... ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 12:38
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I like W&W, but not enough to not be a wide margin apart from ATOTT... -------------   
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 18:45
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Trick of the Tail by a wide margin. Because I was at the first concert of that tour and it was AWESOME !       ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 21:06
| I find it weird how Trick of the Tail is winning so notoriously. Even though there are many songs I like a lot on both albums, in Trick it is mostly poppier songs to my ears, while the songs I like from Wind and Wuthering are proggier, and in general, my favourites from the era... mostly One for the Vine, which for me captures best what I loved from the Gabriel era, and Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers in that Quiet Earth (for me a single song), which is my very favourite Genesis instrumental (easily over Los Endos). And Afterglow closes with also one of my favourite pop moments from the band. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 23:22
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: November 18 2022 at 00:28
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While I don't find them to be similar pieces, YOSW and the track AToTT are similarly the most accessible tunes on their respective albums, and I'm surprised that one gets so much more hate than the other. Sure, YOSW is "sappier," one could say, but they are both pretty easy-going pop rock tracks. And YOSW actually has some more interesting and unexpected chord progression choices, particularly in the middle section. It just seems like the chorus is what turns away the proggers. That being said, I still probably prefer the track AToTT. Mostly playing devil's advocate here.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 19:18
| ^ O do enjoy A Trick of the Tail, pop and all. I don't really care for Your Own Special Way... I would actually have to listen to it again, though, I don't really remember it very well. In any case, Wind and Wuthering does have Afterglow, which is rather poppy too, and I find much more enjoyable than those two. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 19:19
Yes, of course. The thing for me is that those songs on Wind and Wuthering are not only proggier, but I like them better... yet, it's my own taste, of course. |