Cunning Stunts
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Topic: Cunning Stunts
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Subject: Cunning Stunts
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:22
Anyone think its a play on words....i.e.....stunning c**ts?
My brother brought it up, hes not a prog fiend, thought they might have that as a double meaning or some joke...clever if they did
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:22
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:24
haha probably
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Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:29
Yes i do
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:31
Considering Caravan's sense of humor, it wouldn't shock me...
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:33
I always thought it was suppost to be. I don't know much about the band tho, but that what i figured.
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:36
Caravan has always had a ribald sense of humor, so it was absolutely intentional.
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Posted By: robertplantowns
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:56
This is very strange. I've always thought that Cunning Stunts was
a play on words which actually meant the raunchy abovementioned term,
but I thought it was too secretive of a play on words and when I
thought about whether they would actually intend it, I thought it was a
ridiculous notion. The other day I was actaully sitting in my
room and I thought about what Stunning C**ts would actually look like
and a hilarious picture came into my mind but I thought it was wayyy to
obscure to be intended. When I first got ahold of the album, the
play on words was instantly gotten by me, and whenever I thought about
the album I would think about it in the alternate form. This post
proves my sanity! I thought I was the only one who ever even
thought about this sort of thing. It's my second favorite Caravan
album as well.
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:08
Well, everybody knows that "If You See Kay" by April Wine was a song about a guy looking for his long lost girlfriend, and look how that song was misunderstood. So, you never know what people with their minds in the gutter can do to twist around something innocent and beautiful.......
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:09
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:17
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Well, everybody knows that "If You See Kay" by April Wine was a song about a guy looking for his long lost girlfriend, and look how that song was misunderstood. So, you never know what people with their minds in the gutter can do to twist around something innocent and beautiful.......
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Praise the Lord!!! I mean really Clem get out of the dark ages, next you will be burning witches!
Of course Cunning Stunts is a play on words, just look at the cover with the mirror and as a previous archivist said....Caravan have a sense of humour.
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:22
Chris Stacey wrote:
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Well, everybody knows that "If You See Kay" by April Wine was a song about a guy looking for his long lost girlfriend, and look how that song was misunderstood. So, you never know what people with their minds in the gutter can do to twist around something innocent and beautiful.......
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Praise the Lord!!! I mean really Clem get out of the dark ages, next you will be burning witches!
Of course Cunning Stunts is a play on words, just look at the cover with the mirror and as a previous archivist said....Caravan have a sense of humour.
Sheep Stacey
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Geez, you thought I was serious?!? 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 07:50
This is a very old joke. I was originally told it as "what's the difference between Racquel Welch and a tightrope walker?", which shows how long ago it was.
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Posted By: king
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 07:56
Of COURSE it is!!
Duh!
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 08:20
This album was originally going to be called 'Toys in the Attic' but Aerosmith got there first so they named it 'Cunning Stunts'. Not my favourite Caravan album, much prefer their earlier stuff.
Their best album name of course is 'If I could do it all over again, i'd do it all over you'.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 10:23
king wrote:
Of COURSE it is!!
Duh!
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Seconded.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 10:34
Actually had you read my review , you would have gotten confirmation of this!
I showed the record to someone who had absolutely no knowledge of Caravan's humour , and he just laughed it off so hard.
Pye Hasting really has got a dirty old man mind >> If I could do it over , I'd do it all over you. >>>The Dog , The Dog , he's at it again etc....
For Girls's original cover was to have a naked pregnant woman sleeping. Look at the inside gatefold of Waterloo Lily (and the brothel scene on the outside cover) and the vtitle is the name of a famous hooker by Waterloo station.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 10:57
Referring to the quote in your signature, Sean, it is of course also true that there is ABSOLUTELY no double-meaning in "Zero the Hero offering the Witch Shakti Yoni's (sic!) pussy some fish and chips", as is mentioned as explanation to the story on the album cover of Gong's "Angel's Egg".
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 11:06
BaldFriede wrote:
Referring to the quote in your signature, Sean, it is of course also true that there is ABSOLUTELY no double-meaning in "Zero the Hero offering the Witch Shakti Yoni's (sic!) pussy some fish and chips", as is mentioned as explanation to the story on the album cover of Gong's "Angel's Egg".  |
Good point my dear! And the ghost face ready to eat the pussy up in the sky on the album cover is also a good reference!
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 12:48
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 13:34
the following short "poem" appears in the "Circe" chapter of James Joyce's Ulysses (written between 1914 and 1921):
If you see Kay Tell him he may See you in tea Tell him from me.
so hardly any new territory for April Wine. (and have a look at line 3 too)
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 14:59
In reference to the original posting - yes - of course it is play on words. I first saw this as a title to one of Metallica's albums and did a double take when I saw it. I am glad I am not the only one to see this - it is probably something I would have kept to myself if not for this forum topic. All in good humour just like the title of Caravan's album, though I wonder if the double entendre was intentional there... 
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Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:26
What's the difference between a woman in church and one in the bath tub?
PM me if you have trouble with this one...............
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:36
if the woman in the bath-tub was a virgin, I'd say "one is croaking hymns, the other is strokng her hymen" 
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:53
^ - not quite... but a different angle on the matter at hand - 
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:56
'If I could do it all over again, i'd do it all over you'...i like it, i love the album...but am i missing something?
I dont see the background behind this title, is it funny? is there something i am missing? my brother loves the title, but what is there to love? I am so lost, to me its just a weird title, nothing clever, is it clever???
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Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 16:02
^^ Any volunteers who would to explain this to young skywalker..
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 17:11
krusty wrote:
^^ Any volunteers who would to explain this to young skywalker..
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Umm....well....when two people love each other........
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 17:31
The Lost Chord wrote:
'If I could do it all over again, i'd do it all over you'...i like it, i love the album...but am i missing something? I dont see the background behind this title, is it funny? is there something i am missing? my brother loves the title, but what is there to love? I am so lost, to me its just a weird title, nothing clever, is it clever???
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You know, there are the birds and the bees and the butterflies...
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 17:44
The Lost Chord wrote:
'If I could do it all over again, i'd do it all over you'...i like it, i love the album...but am i missing something?
I dont see the background behind this title, is it funny? is there something i am missing? my brother loves the title, but what is there to love? I am so lost, to me its just a weird title, nothing clever, is it clever???
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How can someone who supposedly hit puberty already be this oblivious?
Anyway, play on words or not, it's a great album.
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 06:18
Superb album.
Read somewhere that geoffrey Richardson (he of violin, electronic-spoons fame) actually played garden shears on stage when they played 'Hello Hello'...
Up on a hill top, far from the city Overlooking a stream I heard a sound, it made me look round I looked back where I had just been There just behind a ledge There was a man who leapt to and fro Clipping away at a hedge
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 07:39
Winter Wine is simply their best lyrics!!
And ITLOGAP (the track is also cool)
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:32
cmon now, what does it mean....i didnt think they would be that graphic, and even so...its not clever if u ask me.
So what is it, what is he saying if i could have sex and ejaculate than he would do it all over "you"
cmon now, clever? someones gotta have a better explanation than tjhis!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:35
The Lost Chord wrote:
cmon now, what does it mean....i didnt think they would be that graphic, and even so...its not clever if u ask me.
So what is it, what is he saying if i could have sex and ejaculate than he would do it all over "you"
cmon now, clever? someones gotta have a better explanation than tjhis!
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By god , I do believe he's got it!
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:39
hahaha ok whatever, now im just baffled at by how many guys on here couldnt say that simple answer.
not nearly as good as stunning c**ts
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:47
The Lost Chord wrote:
hahaha ok whatever, now im just baffled at by how many guys on here couldnt say that simple answer.
not nearly as good as stunning c**ts
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I think most of us had you hanging on , searching for the answer as we figured you were probably pre-pubescent.......
If we had told you , this could've been considered enticing a youth to undecent thinking!
And we would not want any of that happening in this forum , much even less on such a pure and immaculate thread!!!
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:48
arighty seany baby, well, i could do it all over again, id do it all over you.
GOT EM!@!!!!!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:51
The Lost Chord wrote:
arighty seany baby, well, i could do it all over again, id do it all over you.
GOT EM!@!!!!!
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I am afraid my young friend that like Jean and Friede I am a lesbian only!
So I only do that sort of stuff with women!
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:52
thats cool...............................
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 11:00
The Lost Chord wrote:
thats cool............................... |
Did you know that male lesbians existed? Now you do!!
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 12:14
yeth, i did
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 12:34
PLEASE don't start a thread asking what Brain Salad Surgery means...
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 15:41
And then there's Blind Dog at St Dunstan's. The title comes from the famous home for the blind in London, and a probably apochryphal story about Noel Coward.
The great actor, playwright, wit and songwriter was out in a London park with a young nephew, who saw two dogs copulating enthusiastically. 'What are those dogs doing, Uncle Noel?' asked the youngster. 'Well you see, the dog in front is blind, and the dog behind it is pushing her to St Dunstan's' came the reply.
Or possibly it was Winston Churchill. Or Oscar Wilde. One of those legendary wits, anyway.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 14 2005 at 03:18
Syzygy wrote:
And then there's Blind Dog at St Dunstan's. The title comes from the famous home for the blind in London, and a probably apochryphal story about Noel Coward.
The great actor, playwright, wit and songwriter was out in a London park with a young nephew, who saw two dogs copulating enthusiastically. 'What are those dogs doing, Uncle Noel?' asked the youngster. 'Well you see, the dog in front is blind, and the dog behind it is pushing her to St Dunstan's' came the reply.
Or possibly it was Winston Churchill. Or Oscar Wilde. One of those legendary wits, anyway.
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I thought St Dunstan was a neighborhood in Canterbury as you see tyhe gate of the city portrayed in the drawing....
But as for the story , I al;so knew that one!
NUTTER ALERT wrote:
PLEASE don't start a thread asking what Brain Salad Surgery means...
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That one is much trickier , but well documented as well!
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 14 2005 at 03:49
The sleeeve drawing for "Blind dog.." is great, you can study it for hours and still find new things to amuse you. Completely wasted when reduced to CD size.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 14 2005 at 07:49
Syzygy wrote:
And then there's Blind Dog at St Dunstan's. The title comes from the famous home for the blind in London, and a probably apochryphal story about Noel Coward.
The great actor, playwright, wit and songwriter was out in a London park with a young nephew, who saw two dogs copulating enthusiastically. 'What are those dogs doing, Uncle Noel?' asked the youngster. 'Well you see, the dog in front is blind, and the dog behind it is pushing her to St Dunstan's' came the reply.
Or possibly it was Winston Churchill. Or Oscar Wilde. One of those legendary wits, anyway.
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That reminds me of a joke about a little Indian boy called Two Dogs F*cking...
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: October 14 2005 at 13:07
chopper wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
And then there's Blind Dog at St Dunstan's. The title comes from the famous home for the blind in London, and a probably apochryphal story about Noel Coward.
The great actor, playwright, wit and songwriter was out in a London park with a young nephew, who saw two dogs copulating enthusiastically. 'What are those dogs doing, Uncle Noel?' asked the youngster. 'Well you see, the dog in front is blind, and the dog behind it is pushing her to St Dunstan's' came the reply.
Or possibly it was Winston Churchill. Or Oscar Wilde. One of those legendary wits, anyway.
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That reminds me of a joke about a little Indian boy called Two Dogs F*cking...
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 My dad told me that story when I was just a little kid. And the one about the lost Indian named 'Falling Rock'.......
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