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Darker Prog Suggestions

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Topic: Darker Prog Suggestions
Posted By: BlackenedGass
Subject: Darker Prog Suggestions
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 00:05
I've been interested lately in listening to really dark and gritty progressive rock music, songs that really take you somewhere. I've no idea the best way to describe it so help there would be appreciated too, but here's a couple of songs that are along the lines I was thinking of:

Marillion: The Bitter Suite
Pink Floyd: One Slip
IQ: Through My Fingers

Thanks in advance!



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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 01:19
I'd say this one qualifies and is guaranteed to take you somewhere
I could think of hundreds more but as your examples are 2/3rds Neo Prog, I'll wait with Univers Zero and Igor Wakhévitch


Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 03:23
Devil Doll, Agalloch, Gargamel, Discipline (with Matthew Parmenter), ...


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 04:17

after second thought








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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 05:21
Echolyn - "All This Time We're Given". The entire album this song comes from, "I Heard You Listening", is dark.



Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 06:17
Since Saperlipopette! has already mentioned "A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers", I'll mention a dark symphonic album that I've been playing quite a lot lately: Arachnoid - Arachnoid.
 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 06:45
Daaaaaark??Wink





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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 06:49
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Daaaaaark??Wink




That's exactly what I was thinking, how dark do you want to go? Because this is dark.





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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 06:49
Helium Horse Fly - Helium Horse Fly - Adrift
 
 



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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 07:10
Try this on for size if you've got an hour to spare Smile



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Won't you take me down, to the underground
Why oh why, there is no light
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 08:02
I would be interested if the OP would respond and let us know if any of these suggestions are what they had in mind. Most of these responses are far from the example songs given in the OP.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 08:13
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I would be interested if the OP would respond and let us know if any of these suggestions are what they had in mind. Most of these responses are far from the example songs given in the OP.

You want it darker?
We kill the flame.

Wink 




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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 09:54
Based on his original choices. atmospheric symph prog,  I would recommend the recent IQ albums.....Road Of Bones and Resistance. (I personally prefer Dark Matter and Frequency regarding IQ ) but Road of Bones sounds perfect for his needs.
I do think Discipline  with Parmenter falls into that area as does some VDGG.



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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 09:56
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I would be interested if the OP would respond and let us know if any of these suggestions are what they had in mind. Most of these responses are far from the example songs given in the OP.

I agree.....sounds like he's looking for more atmospheric symphonic prog with an edge but not as dark as some of the things posted.
Stern Smile



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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 10:22
Listened to Lard Free's first recently, and it put me in a down mood.

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Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 10:30
Current 93 - All the Pretty Little Horses is very dark. And bloody excellent


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 10:38
VDGG : Plague of lighthouse keeper/ Arrow/Lost/Scorched Earth/ The necromancer/ Pioneer aver C....
Peter Hammill : In the black room/ A Louse is not a home/ No more submariner /Gog/Tapeworm/ Faculty X...
GArgamel : both CDs
Discipline : Unfolded like staircase CD
Atoll : le photographe exorciste


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 10:53
When I think of dark prog, I immediately do think of many things that have been listed that I love, the Igor Wakhevitch, Current-93, Univers Zero, Shun-Niggurath, Arachnoid (and for those that like that, try Shylock and the lighter Carpe Diem), as well as music by Comus and others.

I didn't remember the songs in the OP, but checked them out. They seem quite jaunty to my dark disposition -- can be rather sad.

One I thought of, but it is mabe a little more sad than dark and yet also not as jaunty as music in the OP, but I think could appeal to those tastes is Porcupine Tree's "Heartattack in a Lay By" (but not right...).



Maybe as grumpy progfan put it, symphonic prog (or I think melodic prog) with an edge (and maybe some angst) would be a good description. I would think various Steven Wilson could kind of fit the bill....

Discipline was mentioned, and that seems a good one fro your goals. Maybe music from Galahad's Empires Never Last:



Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 11:30
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I would be interested if the OP would respond and let us know if any of these suggestions are what they had in mind. Most of these responses are far from the example songs given in the OP.


I agree.....sounds like he's looking for more atmospheric symphonic prog with an edge but not as dark as some of the things posted.
Stern Smile

Yep. It would help if responders read the OP and not just the topic title.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 11:59
I did, I saw people had made loads of great suggestions so decided to have a little fun with it, I'm sure Trane was the same.

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 12:09
I actually wasn’t sure how serious the OP was. None of the songs in the OP seemed at all dark to me, so I wasn’t surprised when people started posting actual dark prog.

If I put my music upon a light-dark spectrum, the songs in the OP are definitely at the light end.

So, I can definitely understand people either assuming the OP was a bit of a joke, and having fun; or, as Ian has said, after other suggestions that were equally (not) dark were made, having some fun with the topic.

From the title of the post alone, before reading the OP, my mind definitely went towards much of the (actually) dark prog suggested (either seriously or in fun), and the only reason I never posted suggestions of my own, was because I wasn’t sure whether this was a joke post or not. 🤷🏻‍♂️



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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 14:02
Nothing wrong with having fun. The OP gave examples of songs they considered dark prog and yet most replies were way off the mark. If indeed it was a joke post, no prob, otherwise I think it's rude. It's common for some to not read anything but the topic and then respond. I find it frustrating and not helpful. But maybe I'm only joking and having fun?


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 14:08
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I did, I saw people had made loads of great suggestions so decided to have a little fun with it, I'm sure Trane was the same.


Yup, but if you can't stand the dark, stay out of the closet (or keep the door open) LOL

If it's symphonic, then go for





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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 14:09
People don't know how much the OP knows. Maybe they're happy to have Univers Zero and Shub-Niggurath recommended despite them not being anywhere near to what they had listed or even what they had known already. They're dark for sure, so why not? It's good to broaden horizons, isn't it?

By the way:




Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 14:36
This is the first thing that occurred to me upon seeing the songs mentioned in the OP:



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Posted By: BlackenedGass
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 15:41
Hey guys! Long post incoming.

Firstly, apologies for not replying sooner. I've been at work all day and have had minimal access to the internet, plus when I got home I gave all of the suggestions a listen.

Secondly, I really did word my initial post and the thread title badly! It's always tricky when you can't quite put your finger on what it is you're looking for but what I think I'm trying to say is music that does a really good job of sucking you in and you can picture the setting vividly. With the Bitter Suite I can really imagine myself at some seedy pub/club and One Slip definitely takes me to a dingy hotel room full of guilt. Some other examples that come to mind are Jethro Tull's "Pilbroch (Cup In Hand)" (Can really picture looking through that window) and Steeleye Span's "King Henry" (Ghost House!). I hope that helps make things clearer.

Lastly, "Atmospheric symphonic prog with an edge" DOES sound like something I'd like and probably describes "Through My Fingers" pretty well. So by all means suggest more stuff like that. At the same time though I LOVE everything that's been suggested! I'm already familiar with some bands like VdGG and Univers Zero but it's been great discovering new stuff. Discipline in particular have really resonated with me. By all means have fun and keep suggesting! Big smile


Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 17:01
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 17:27
^ I love "Helpless Child" and resisted mentioning Swans since I have talked about it too much of late (one of my fave songs there and that is the one that got me into Swans).

And since BlackenedGlass brings up atmospheric music with an edge again, and has mentioned a Pink Floyd track in the original post (that takes you on a journey), I will mention another track from that album which is Floydish, "The Sound".



Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: April 21 2022 at 17:46
Great choice, Greg, but one can never talk too much about Swans Wink


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 05:38
The title track, and the rest of the album is all wonderfully dark symphonic prog with lots of moogs and mellotrons (don't let the black metal-like title scare you, it's inspired by those italian horror movies/video nasties such as Cannibal Holocaust)




Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 06:03
Try some of King Crimson music. Red and Starless have some pretty dark stuff. Ceremony by Spooky Tooth is also a great option.



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