What are polls all about?
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Topic: What are polls all about?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: What are polls all about?
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 11:39
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To be honest, I have quite a bit of difficulties with understanding what all these polls are about. So will you guys please tell me about it...and I promise, it's not a part of subcaltcha.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
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Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 11:45
| personal preferences |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 11:52
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Fun! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 11:58
| Each and every poll has its own "about". They have been a part of the internet forums since... forever, maybe. They are for fun, for me. They also can show the tendencies and the preferences of the forumers. It is nice. I love polls. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 12:05
| Ultimately, they mean very little however it is a fun way of being able to keep the forums active with conversation. If you think about how many members are active at any one time, the forum area can go a bit stale after a while? Not everyone wants to write three paragraphs of text with every contribution, or they'd get put off participating... so, they are ephemeral but enjoyable and arguably necessary fluff.... |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 12:31
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It's the only real way we can bug @Psychedelic Paul about his socks and the the music he likes.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 12:37
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Over in General Music Discussions (sub-listed under Other music related lounges), we have (mostly) non-prog polls (all labeled with "Interactive)." Each one has a different theme, chosen by whichever presenter is up for their turn, with some various different rules than the standard rules. Standard rules are it must be something you love that fits the category, usually you can offer up 3, sometimes lesser-known prog is allowed. After listening, you can comment and discuss the selections (if you wish, and have time), then when notified, select which of your choices you want to subject to voting. There's an Interactive Poll Team thread, where we handle whose turn it is, etc. It's run differently than the "just vote for this or that," polls, and most just enjoy the sharing of music, as opposed for "winning." When we have a prog poll to do in like manner, we put it up under "Prog Polls." ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 12:46
in which ways? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 12:49
In which ways? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 12:54
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It's a deep pipeline that goes into the arithmetic cheeks and the "concatenate cow rabbit cube trash simillimum" in our heads. It's fun and sort of like looking through eyes and smelling with noses. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 13:18
My friend, in many ways. For others they can be informative, annoying etc. too. I just have fun with the polls. They surely can be informative, annoying etc. for me too, but in general I find polls fun. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 13:29
 They're the next best thing to splitting an atom.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 13:51
| For fun, express tastes/opinions, talk to other members, etc. Many things can come from a poll, not just who likes or dislikes what. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 13:53
this, pretty much.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 13:55
Sometimes polls stimulate discussion without a vote ever being cast, like some of my duff polls for instance.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 14:08
...but only one------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 14:09
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They allow us to persuade ourselves that the forum is still alive... ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 14:42
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Quality workmanship at competitive prices (and getting blamed for Brexit) ------------- 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 14:43
My main purpose for creating polls is to see how soon they can disappear to the second page to never ever be seen again.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 14:48
well, if your polls were about prog rock bands, rather than your underwear selections...
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 15:27
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Absolutely no one should have to see my underwear selections... -------------
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 15:34
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If Earth didn't have a north or south pole there would be no life. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 15:53
But as far as I can see, Grumpy, that doesn't tell much specific about the poles, and I already know that they are not to do without. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 16:05
So it would be better to tell me something more helpfull.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 16:24
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They are also about being the brunt of 'screwing in the light bulb' jokes. I'm just sayin'. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 16:54
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 18:41
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I guess I'm not understanding the issue. They are polls. You pick which album, song or band you like, the totals are summed up, and you mock the idiots who voted wrong. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: February 07 2022 at 21:34
| I’m pretty sure they are about throwing tomatoes at 90125, which we fans of the 80s use to make a lovely tomato bisque. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 08 2022 at 01:33
I certainly don't, Grumpy. On the contrary, even not everything has been very fine between us, I somehow like you.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 08 2022 at 02:15
Thank you very much for this extensive explanation of the Interactive Polls, Snicolette, but I'm sorry to say that I'm used to listening to and having to do with albums, and not single songs. Anyway, best luck with it.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 17:06
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Would anybody else like to say what the polls are all about? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 17:27
My pleasure, David. Sometimes people new to these polls think they're like the other ones in here, so was just differentiating between the two. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 17:57
What is it about polls you don't understand? Are you being purposely obtuse or is this some sort of congenital comprehension issue? I know they have polls in Denmark. They are the same here. Except not in Danish. I'm sure there are even polls in English, Faroese, German and Greenlandic in Denmark. After a brief Google search, I've learned that the Faroese term for poll is "spurnakanning". Would it make it easier for you if we referred to "polls" as "spurnakanning"? There is even a Facebook page devoted to spurnakanning. Not so surprisingly, the Facebook page is titled "Spurnakanning". https://www.facebook.com/Spurnakanning-111607067047575/" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/Spurnakanning-111607067047575/ I think I'll call my next band Spurnakanning. And then make a poll here to see if the Faroese folk like the music. I really want to corner the Faroese market. First Faro, then Greenland. Yep, I'm going for North Atlantic domination. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 18:26
Adapted from https://www.historians.org/about-aha-and-membership/aha-history-and-archives/gi-roundtable-series/pamphlets/em-4-are-opinion-polls-useful-%281946%29/what-types-of-information-can-polls-find" rel="nofollow - The American Historical Association
Polls come in different forms, cover different topics, ask different questions and have different reasons for being. At this board we have polls on music and non-music. We have polls asking for favourites, asking for least favourites, asking for best, second best and more. It's a way of gauging opinions and collecting data. It's a record of opinion. I have enjoyed making polls as a way of list making, sharing my favourites, as a kind of a creative exercise even if not that creative, a way of passing the time, and very often as an accessory to discussion. I usually haven't cared much about the results themselves. Often I have done it in the hopes of exposing people to music I like and in turn being exposed to music, and in the hopes of connecting with others who have similar appreciations (a communal exercise). I have done polls of contrast and similarities. Sometime I have covered music I don't much like for diversity sake and to hopefully bring different audience together in the same thread. I like posting in people's polls as a way of sharing what I like, my thoughts, and hopefully to connect with others and gain new perspective. It is the conversation that goes with the poll that often is more interesting to me, but I do find seeing people's lists interesting and helps me to get a feel for others tastes and interests. Some people like the contest/ games types of polls most, but I don't treat mine as contests. I fid having a poll as an accessory to discussion can help to better focus a topic and add another element or layer to it. Not really sure what the issue is, or quite what you are looking for. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 18:39
The ways that are enjoyable ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 22:45
Hi, Not to mention a lot of idiocies! But they help folks remember things with one exception. They heard one album 10 times, and the next ten albums less than half of it, and then they can't possibly learn and appreciate these next ten choices. If the polls are less "selective" about some content, like some of them intentionally leave out some bands and their work, because they have not been heard properly ... then I tend to not participate, since the idea is just to promote the better known and what I (sometimes) think might be better all around. All in all, the polls are fine with me, although I do not like to look at my collection of 3k titles and think ... this one is better than that one ... EVER ... because if that were the case they would not be here ... PERIOD. Favoritism, sometimes, has a tendency to downplay the music itself ... and to say that you prefer Mozart to Beethoven, in here on these polls is almost like saying ... they haven't heard Beethoven much anyway, beyond a couple of chords to start a piece or two! And that hurts the polls in my book, and I wish it was more "inclusive" rather than it being just a choice between 2 or 3 things that are ... not as good as many others, but I supposed that 60 years of music listening is a different experience to a newbie that has been at it for 20 and only discovered "progressive" 10 years ago! It all differs ... and I wish I had a better way of saying! The polls are fine, but most of them are not for me! I don't listen to music for "fun" ... I listen to it, because it colors my mind, my body and my soul ... and that has nothing to do with popularity, or polls or the preferences that are seen here. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 00:32
so complaining comes with insults today. 🤦♂️ Your rants are getting ruder and more arrogant.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 01:19
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 01:47
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I think we all know how painful taking a pole can be, but sometimes you have to step up. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 02:52
Well, me...  Seriously, not too wrong what he wrote there... and regarding the insults, we have seen far worse.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 02:52
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Ejaculating endlessly. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 02:55
he's been doing that quite often TBH. And just because there were worse insults than this, does not mean we should tolerate any of them.
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 03:02
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David, the OP, is a very nice guy. I think he is not as seasoned as us in the forum world. He is very understanding too, as I deduced from our PM's. And theres an entity here who learns NOTHING. Who will learn nothing. Better to ignore... |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 03:27
thanks, good to know ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 03:41
Thank you very mych, Logan, for this serious, and very extensive and informative answer.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 03:46
Yes, I see your point. That's subjective and can have many different reasons.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 03:55
I'd like first and foremost understand and accept them better, but I've thought, it might be good with possibility for some proper discussion, as well. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 04:07
Thanks, Atavachron, I can see the good point of that, and I've began to do it a bit myself. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 04:17
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Thank you very much for your post, moshkito. I find it as a very good contribution to a proper discussion. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 06:49
If you haven't seen my progger poll yet, I'd like you to do it as I find it quite relevant and informative. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 06:59
thank you very much, Archisorcerus ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 07:20
About Denmark, I can tell that we're used to discuss things and accept different opinions. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 07:27
Hi, More than you care to accept or admit! In general, I am on my own, because I am a writer and I write from my heart and the flow in my dreams, NOT BECAUSE OF YOUR THOUGHTS OR IDEAS OR TOP THIS OR THAT. Hopefully, you have learned something about the "progressive" folks at first ... they were themselves, not anybody's idea of what it was supposed to be, or a number on a poll! Why, are you being contrary to the very idea that created "progressive" and later, "prog"? It's not like you don't know the stuff! Or maybe you are just trying to show how popular you are with the other folks here, so it makes you feel better? C'mon .... (soundtrack by the Man Band!)
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 07:31
I only know of one Danish band - The Savage Rose - mainly because they've been around almost as long as I have.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 08:08
And where are you from?
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 08:14
Thanks for telling me that, Paul, as I in fact didn't know it even it's one of the most famous Danish bands from the 70's. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 17:36
You're welcome -- serious but also with some absurd stabs at humour thrown in because that's typical me and what I enjoy. Humour can be a great icebreaker as well as alienating. I did think of something that I forgot to get into in that post. Quite often polls I have made are a journey of discovery or re-discovery to me, and I have gained much deeper appreciation for music and artists thanks to the process of making them and heard the music in a new context, and seen the music from a new perspective, and explored more music. The poll is the result of a journey I've taken, and then I can only hop that the journey that the discussion takes is rewarding. Unlike some, I like to cover music I have heard in polls, but choosing the music often takes some thought and listening (even if the choices seem imbecilic and impulsive or senseless to some, but there is an associative process that got me there). While I prefer listening to full albums commonly, I often like to highlight individual tracks so that they can be more easily listened to by the participants, and I like to compare/ contrast that way. When thinking about which tracks to choose, I will often explore more deeply and gain new appreciation and sometimes discover new music. Sometimes it has got me exploring new artists as I've found some point of comparison with one I know and like. Sometimes I'm looking for really similar tracks, and it takes a while to remember back on music and re-check it, and that's an experience. It's even got me listening to and appreciating artists that I might not have otherwise because of some methodology in the selection process or the associative journey which may require research. And the embeds of tracks I might place act as records of music that has been important to me commonly. As I said before, however, sometimes I have covered music that I was not into for more diversity and because I value a certain originality. I wouldn't want to do quite the same poll that I would think others have, so the poll might be seen as odder. There is no one reason for polls, other than recording opinions and statistical research, but it is done for different ends and in different ways. I like making them as it gets me more deeply exploring acts and thinking about music in different ways, and I enjoy participating as I learn about more music and it gets me comparing music and gaining appreciation for me to music as well as gaining a new appreciation for old to me music. I definitely enjoy that act of comparing music (looking for commonalities and differences as well as just thinking about my preferences), and the pattern-seeking animal in me loves the process or thinking about the process behind the choices often. Sorry, too long post, quite redundant, keep getting interrupted and losing my trains of thought. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 18:00
That remark is a jewel.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 18:02
So...you made a poll, but you don't know what polls are about? To quote you directly: "To be honest, I have quite a bit of difficulties with understanding what all these polls are about." Again, I ask what is it about polls you don't understand? You keep asking the question, but you don't explain the issue regarding your evident lack of comprehension. You even made this thread to ask the question, people reply, but you blithely ignore the answers. It's not that damn hard. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 18:11
If you talk like you type, I can see folks heading to the door in droves. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 05:21
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Thank you very much, Logan, for your new, very detailed post which besides telling me maybe much more about different polls then I could read so far, contains as well some very good ideas for ambitious polls to make. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 05:36
I'm glad to hear that you don't find, I've written too many replies.  I don't really know about you, but I enjoy it, like all the other threads I've started. By the way, how many threads have you started, The Dark Elf?
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 12:51
No reason for that, Saperlipopette! ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 14:15
If you're still unsure of what polls are all about then check out the poll vaults. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 14:25
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 14:28
No David, I think it was a genuine question... he might like to borrow some...
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 14:31
I don't think Saperlipopette was referring to David.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 14:40
Thank you very much for your concern, Jared, and for your help, Paul.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 11 2022 at 14:56
By the way, Jared, I've found your point of view very important to think about. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 02:46
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As well as the fun of taking part, polls are also a great way of discovering new music, just as I've "discovered" Symphonic Metal band Xandria, following Archisorcerus' recommendation.
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 03:55
^ Cool! I hate the term "female fronted" when used for such bands, but I do love some female fronted metal bands.  I was thinking of discovering Aesma Daeva from your list in the related poll. I'll do that soon. 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 04:01
In that case, you might discover Aesma Daeva before I do, as I haven't listened to them yet. By the way, I love female-fronted Symphonic Metal bands too, but you probably already guessed that.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 15 2022 at 04:28
Good to know, Paul, and RYM agree with you. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |