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Topic: Your favorite flute prog songsPosted By: Philchem8
Subject: Your favorite flute prog songs
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 15:12
I noticed
there were a couple of discussion threads on the flute in progressive rock many
years ago, but I have not found anything recent. And as I have not seen a
discussion asking people for their favorite prog tracks with flutes, I thought
I’ll give it a go. If there’s interest, maybe we can build a list of top flute
prog songs. Whether it was a recorder, transverse or other type of flute (and
I’m by no means an expert), I believe the flute started to be used occasionally
in rock mainly around the mid-1960s, notably in tunes such as Ruby Tuesday,
Wild Thing and Jefferson Airplane’s Coming Back To Me. The flute then played an
important role in a lot of progressive rock from the late 1960s to about the
mid-1970s, with Jethro Tull, and to some extent Focus, making it a defining
element of their sound. Afterwards, it seems that the flute became somewhat out
of fashion, although Tull and occasionally Steve Hackett (with the help of his
flutist brother) carried on the tradition to some extent. I don’t think the
flute plays much of an important role in neo-prog. I am aware of some more
modern bands that have some flute - Big Big Train (for ex. Winchester Diver),
Mostly Autumn - but I’m not sufficiently familiar with enough of their material
to tell how extensively the flute is used.
I’ve always
liked how various prog-rock artists incorporated the flute into their
compositions, and some of my favorite prog tunes include some degree of flute
playing. In putting together a list of my 10 favorite flute prog songs, I
considered only those songs where the flute plays a prominent role, so I did
not include any Genesis material. I think Peter Gabriel integrated nice flute
passages very effectively in early Genesis material, but these were relatively
brief, transitional passages (Stagnation, Dusk, The Musical Box, Firth of Fifth). The
longest may be a little over a minute in Supper’s Ready but considering that
song is over 23 minutes, I did not consider it significant enough to include it
in my list. Similarly, I came close to considering Van der Graaf Generator’s
Refugees and House With No Door, but thought the flute was not quite as
prominent in those songs than in others on my list. It’s a subjective judgment
call however, and in contributing your top flute songs, feel free to make that
call as you wish!I also tried to have
some representation of different bands as I realized my list could easily be
packed with Jethro Tull and Camel tunes. So here it is (in no particular
order):
Harmonium:
Histoires Sans Paroles – For my ears, the most beautiful and touching flute
playing in an epic prog-rock composition; this indeed leaves me “sans paroles”
(i.e. speechless).
Camel: Rhayader
– Wonderful, upbeat flute-led short instrumental with a catchy melody – leaves
you with a good-humored feeling inside.
Jethro Tull:
Thick as a Brick (Part I) A close to 23 minute masterpiece with plenty of gorgeous
flute sprinkled throughout, particularly on edits # 1 and 4. Given its length
this is the only Tull song on my list, but I could easily have included others
such as Living in the Past, Cross-Eyed Mary and the flute classic Bouree.
King Crimson:
The Court of the Crimson King – This defining classic of prog-rock is still my ultimate
KC track. The flute, while not dominant, comes in perfect time and duration to contribute
with subtlety to the medieval, gothic atmosphere.
The Moody
Blues: Visions of Paradise – Flute and sitar? I could just meditate to this
soul-searching gem.Maybe not one of The
Moody Blue’s most famous song with a flute, but certainly one of the best.
Focus: Love
Remembered – Touching and relaxing, this is on Focus’ gentler side in the same
vein as Janis (which is a close contender for my list). For a heavier sound and
faster rhythm, House of the King gets my vote.
Maneige: Les Porches de Notre-Dame – Another tour-de-force, epic composition from a French-Canadian band from Montreal, a contemporary of
Harmonium, and these two bands alone make feel proud of my home city; initially
led by the flute, eventually all kinds of instruments explode in this dazzling
symphony.
King Crimson: Lady of the Dancing Water – Yes, Crimson
again, and why not? This time, a very gentle pastoral ballad, in the
style of the more well-known I Talk to the Wind and Cadence and Cascade. This
may be the closest thing KC came to a love song. I wish they had done more like
these because they were really good at it.
Steve Hackett: Hands of the Priestess – Mysterious, enchanting
harmonies on the flute and acoustic guitar make this one of Steve Hackett’s best
collaboration with his flute-playing brother John. Also contending, The
Serpentine Song, reminiscent of early King Crimson.
Camel: Elke – In contrast to Rhayader or Supertwister, this
is a extremely serene and peaceful flute-led piece, heart-wrenchingly beautiful.
Anyone who is not filled with love for the world after listening to this should
just give up on life. The equally beautiful
and moody Air Born was another strong contender from the band.
Other prog bands I have enjoyed flute songs from include PFM
(which had two strong contenders for my top 10), Horslips, Gravy Train, Out of
Focus, Caravan, Triode, Supersister, Mythos and East of Eden. Do you know any others?
Replies: Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 16:42
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 17:37
Hi, An interesting topic . here are some tracks that immediately came to my mind and that were not in your original selection ( moreover very significant and that I share almost entirely) Dave Jackson from VDGG fame : flute on Undercover man ( Godbluff LP) , pulsing flute straight from the beginning with Hammil's whispered vocals, then DJ switched to sax for the second half of the song Childlike faith in childhood'ed ( here also from the start of the song)( VDGG Still LP) The emperor is his war room ( from VDGG H to he) , DJ on flute here from the start also DJ played flute on some PH solo LPs : Child from Fool's mate ( first PH solo LP) What is worth ( from Chameleon in the shadow of the night) In totally other style of progressive music Kraftwerk Rückzug from their first LP and the Dutch hard rock band Golden earring who recorded some prog related material in the early seventies Back home ( a hit single back then) and above all Brother wind from their 1972 LP Together ( flute in a Tull-ish style after 2 minutes to start a long instrumental bridge) Flute played by the singer/frontman Barry Hay
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: January 28 2022 at 17:51
Focus - Janis (Great flute melody by Thijs Van Leer)
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 00:08
I might forget many songs, but the ones that come to my mind (not necessarily in order of preference), I guess I can begin with Jethro Tull, and it must be Thick as a Brick... my pick would be the live version from Live Bursting Out. Then, Focus with Birth, I just love the interplay between flute and guitar on this one. Then Harmonium's Histoire's Sans Paroles. Also, Anglagard's Kung Bore. And Los Jaivas with La Poderosa Muerte.
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 01:09
Soft Machine's "Slightly All The Time" has a very nice flute solo starting around the six minute mark
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 02:58
Off the top of my head - Silently Falling by Chris Squire (right at the beginning) and The Knife by Genesis.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 03:32
definitely this one:
brilliant flute playing by Didier Malherbe
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 08:18
Hi,
AGUSA ... that woman is excellent. Some might end up comparing her, but in the end, she is exceptional and you would stand up and applaud a performance like that.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 09:05
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 09:40
That short flute solo by Jimmy Hastings at the beginning of You By My Side on Chris Squire's Fish Out of Water.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 14:07
Jethro Tull - My God: an introduction to the possibilities of flute in a hard rock song. Tull certainly had prominent flute tunes prior to this (Bouree, With You There to Help Me, Serenade to a Cuckoo, etc.), but in 1971 (and a year earlier if you were lucky enough to be at the Isle of Wight Concert) "My God" and its flute solo became something altogether different than the pastoral accompaniment instrument it had been for centuries. Throw in the spastic and heavy "Nothing Is Easy" from 1969, and the flute was never the same again.
Traffic - Rainmaker: atmospheric and jazzy, a memorable riff driving a splendid Traffic tune.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 14:36
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 14:42
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 14:46
Or if we stray outside of prog...
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 14:56
Too obvious??
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 15:05
Keepin' it in the family...
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 15:29
Nice thread!
I very much like the flute work in Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere: title track and Foxlight.
Camel - Supertwister (can't leave it out :) )
Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick and Witches Promise
Gong - Flute Salad
Genesis - Cuckoo Cocoon
King Crimson - Formentera Lady
The flute work in Zappa's Absolutely Free (Plastic People, Call Any Vegetable, though not sure if it is indeed a flute or if it qualifies)
Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon (Cancer of the Band, Tota in the Moya).
Soft Machine - Slightly All The Time, already mentioned (sublime!).
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 19:09
I’ve also always enjoyed whoever is really playing the flute behind the curtains for this high stepping ambidextrous comic flautist. Whoever it is … is amazing!
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 19:10
I love the flute solo on tCotCK. It's a timeless classic.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: January 29 2022 at 20:13
I love flute in Prog. But, for some reason, this thread reminded me of a meme.
To which the progger says “Bonus!”
Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: January 30 2022 at 02:58
Not prog but still legendery
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: January 30 2022 at 07:28
So many from Thijs Van Leer! How bout "Hocus Pocus"?
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: January 30 2022 at 08:34
The Moody Blues - Legend of a Mind
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 30 2022 at 14:47
Camel : under the moon ( from Harbour of tears)
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 31 2022 at 02:29
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 31 2022 at 12:16
Wow, thanks everyone, this thread has really expanded my flute prog repertoire! Lot's of excellent and varied suggestions. I've already tried to listen to most of them. And thanks particularly to Moshkito for directing me towards Agusa, who I never heard of (indeed a lot of great flute in the 2 albums I heard), and also I Prophecy Disaster for suggesting Anglagard, who I head of but never listened to before. So are the Swedes carrying the torch of flute prog?
Aside from all the songs that have been named, I would add these as worth checking out:
- Gravy Train: Staircase to the Day, Ballad of a Peaceful Man
- Camel: Spirit of the Water, Song Within a Song
- PFM: Dulce Maria, Appena un po', Dove...quando..I Parte
- Harmonium: Vert
- The Moody Blues: For My Lady, Are You Sitting Comfortably?
- Maneige: La fin de l'histoire, Celebration
- Horslips: Trouble, Cu Chulainn's Lament
- Supersister: Present from Nancy
- Mythos: Mythoett, Eternity
- Caravan: Love with a Flute
- VDGG: Out of my Books
- Focus: Elspeth of Nottingham
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: January 31 2022 at 12:20
Wait...no one's mentioned "Firth of Fifth"???
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 31 2022 at 12:31
The Dark Elf wrote:
Jethro Tull - My God: an introduction to the possibilities of flute in a hard rock song. Tull certainly had prominent flute tunes prior to this (Bouree, With You There to Help Me, Serenade to a Cuckoo, etc.), but in 1971 (and a year earlier if you were lucky enough to be at the Isle of Wight Concert) "My God" and its flute solo became something altogether different than the pastoral accompaniment instrument it had been for centuries. Throw in the spastic and heavy "Nothing Is Easy" from 1969, and the flute was never the same again.
Great point about Jethro Tull's role in introducing the possibilities of flute in hard rock, and singling out My God, though I think the flute was already used in jazz and blues as more than a pastoral instrument. That live video of My God you sent has a really more powerful flute solo than the studio recording.
Incidentally, I've been listening to Tull's new release, The Zealot's Gene, which has plenty of wonderful flute playing.
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 31 2022 at 12:34
Steve Wyzard wrote:
Wait...no one's mentioned "Firth of Fifth"???
I mentioned it in my introduction at the top of the discussion, indicating that I did not select it, along with other Genesis tracks, because it does not have enough flute. That said, it's great flute transition passage that stands among my favorites. Genesis used the flute relatively sparingly, but very effectively in my view.
Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: January 31 2022 at 12:38
JD wrote:
Too obvious??
Haha...not sure if it is obvious or not, but it's not prog. Down-Under is a great tune though. I really liked Men At Work's first album in 1982 and remember fondly going to see them the first time they came to Montreal.
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 31 2022 at 12:42
Philchem8 wrote:
JD wrote:
Too obvious??
Haha...not sure if it is obvious or not, but it's not prog. Down-Under is a great tune though. I really liked Men At Work's first album in 1982 and remember fondly going to see them the first time they came to Montreal.
So cool back then , th for the souvenir :-)
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: February 08 2022 at 12:36
Earlier I had erroneously reported that Jimmy Hasting's flute could be heard at the beginning of Fish Out of Water's You By My Side. It's actually on the next song, Silently Falling.
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Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: February 08 2022 at 18:22
Rednight wrote:
Earlier I had erroneously reported that Jimmy Hasting's flute could be heard at the beginning of Fish Out of Water's You By My Side. It's actually on the next song, Silently Falling.
Yeah I was wondering about that. Beautiful flute intro indeed. Still, so far, I think my favorite song with flute from Jimmy Hastings is Caravan's Can't Be Long Now.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 08:21
Jaketejas wrote:
I love flute in Prog. But, for some reason, this thread reminded me of a meme.
To which the progger says “Bonus!”
Hi,
There was, at one time, a show at the Hollywood Bowl with a "jazz'y" flute player and a buffoon flute player.
And, of course, it sold because of the buffoon, since not as many folks heard about the black player. Well, let me tell you something ... from that day on, the buffoon was not thought of as a good player at all ... and he was literally buried on the stage as he could not improvise and stay with his partner at all.
There was, for a fleeting moment, a bootleg of this, a very bad one that must have been recorded from inside someone's pants ... but even in that recording, about an hour long only, showed that one player was all over the place and the other was just filling in with little riffs that he could remember. I even doubt that the buffoon even knew, or understood music well enough to be where he was ... the only thing he knew were his "trix" and that was it, and of course when that's all you know, it will be done and over in 20 minutes! If that bigbad bootleg was an indication the show was over in 10 minutes ... but goodness gracious, how one man could turn the tables on a buffoon was very precious indeed.
Historically, that I am aware of, Ian's solo in a couple of pieces are "the standard" of insanity on the flute ... although in the albums, Focus shows the ability and Thijs did a bunch of solo albums with classical music and flute ... but it was never, that I could see a major part of the show ... the guitar and the voice, were!
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 12:24
Posted By: colesimon33
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 15:59
Pleasant string!
I particularly like the flute work in Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere: title track and Foxlight.
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Camel - Supertwister (can't forget about it :) )
Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick and Witches Promise
Gong - Flute Salad
Beginning - Cuckoo Cocoon
Ruler Crimson - Formentera Lady
The flute work in Zappa's Absolutely Free (Plastic People, Call Any Vegetable, however not certain on the off chance that it is without a doubt a woodwind or then again assuming it qualifies)
Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon (Cancer of the Band, Tota in the Moya).
Delicate Machine - Slightly All The Time, currently referenced (radiant!).
Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 13:15
colesimon33 wrote:
The flute work in Zappa's Absolutely Free (Plastic People, Call Any Vegetable, however not certain on the off chance that it is without a doubt a woodwind or then again assuming it qualifies)
That's clarinet, courtesy of Bunk Gardner. Good stuff though.
Posted By: PriestOfCyrinx
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 13:25
My god for Jethro tull
Octavarium flute solo dream theater
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 13:51
The Dark Elf wrote:
The Moody Blues - Legend of a Mind
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Posted By: Philchem8
Date Posted: February 28 2022 at 16:22
In addition to all the ones mentioned so far, since starting this thread, I discovered some more prog bands/artists that make frequent use of the flute and deserve mention:
From late 60s/early 70s: - Quintessence - Lasting Weep
Newer bands: - Circulus - Heather Findlay - Kotebel - White Willow - Tusmorke - Jordsjo - The Windmill
All the last 4 are from Norway, so I must conclude Norway is the land of modern flute prog So far I've enjoyed White Willow and Circulus te most.
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