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Topic: Some Mind-Bending Movies That Also Bend TimePosted By: Shadowyzard
Subject: Some Mind-Bending Movies That Also Bend Time
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 16:34
No too popular movies. (The ones rated by more than 100k people on IMDb.) So no The Butterfly Effect, Twelve Monkeys, Donnie Darko, Groundhog Day etc. among the options.
I only included the movies that I know and like/love. (Probably there are more.) I've been planning to watch The Amazing Mr. Blunden, but didn't put it here for that reason.
There's the "Other" option, and multiple votes are allowed.
Replies: Posted By: ProfPanglos
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 16:47
I'm not much of a movie/tv watcher at all (I have not seen a single movie on your list, LOL, so I'll not be voting.)
I do remember seeing one a long time ago that I enjoyed... I had to look it up, as I did not remember the title. It was called "Somewhere in Time" with Christopher Reeve. Granted, I saw it in the theaters whenever it came out, which was ages ago when I was a teenager. I have no idea if I'd enjoy it today.
Another time-travel one I sort-of enjoyed a few years ago was "Safety Not Guaranteed."
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:14
I just lost long message. Much as I love Time bandits, when I saw this poll Los Cronocrímenes (time Crimes) immediately came to mind. Loved it and it will get my vote. I saw Time Trap recently and did not like it.
Donnie Darko I feel could fit and I loved that film.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:17
^ I think Time Trap was fantastic. Donnie Darko is way too popular for my concept. Then I would have to add Planet of the Apes, The Matrix, Looper, The Butterfly Effect etc. etc. etc. and 25 poll options would not suffice. Obscurity is also cool.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:19
And Greg, Time Bandits can still get one of your votes. Multiplicity of votes is cool.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:30
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ I think Time Trap was fantastic. Donnie Darko is way too popular for my concept. Then I would have to add Planet of the Apes, The Matrix, Looper, The Butterfly Effect etc. etc. etc. and 25 poll options would not suffice. Obscurity is also cool.
You were right, it is popular. My son was talking math, as usual, to me while I was trying to post and hadn't taken in your OP properly. I would have thought Time Bandits was pretty darn popular, though. I mean it's only friggin Terry Gilliam with Michael Palin contributing writing.;)
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:36
I voted for Time Bandits too, and will give Cronos a vote as well.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:37
^ Yeah, Time Bandits is quite popular. I generally base my understanding of popularity on IMDb. Of course they are not the ultimate "determiners", but it feels safe...
For instance, I thought that U Turn (1997) was extremely popular, but IMDb says it is not that much. Also, some movies are very popular in some countries, but not so in others. Of course the internet age changed it to an extent, but not totally...
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:50
I guess it's because I have seen Time Bandits many times on TV over the years (going back to the 80s). I have it recorded on my PVR from a commercial free station now. I think it did well at the box office, was a critical success. and did well in the video market. I don't follow IMDB much.
Just for being a Terry Gilliam film, and involving other Pythons, it would be surprising to me if it was obscure even if it doesn't seem that big according to IMDB.
It's not like a blockbuster, though. I wonder if older films might suffer too that came out before IMDB, unless they are huge names.
I enjoyed this podcast on it: https://play.acast.com/s/ruleofthree/davidquantickontimebandits" rel="nofollow - https://play.acast.com/s/ruleofthree/davidquantickontimebandits . I love the Rule of Three podcast.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:52
^ The Turkish TV channels never showed it, as far as I know/remember. I met Time Bandits in the 2000s.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 18:04
We got a lot of more "more English" fare where I live on local channels, and quirky films, whereas Turkey may have been more American/ Hollywood mainstream dominated when it came to imports. And Monty Python was huge here, don't know how big Monty Python was in Turkey.
Of course you're younger than me and I got to see it not that long after its release (I'd trade that to be younger). I used to have a collection of newspaper movie clippings, which included Time Bandits.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 18:09
^ Monty Python is liked and appreciated by people like me, in my country. We are quite a minority, I must say. Yet, this doesn't come to mean that the Turkish TVs didn't show some wild British humour. We are quite a chaotic country, really. Any foreign person who feels optimistic (a Muslim) or pessimistic (a non-muslim or Islamophobic) that s/he is coming to a Muslim country would probably be bedazzled or bewildered. I've seen many examples in both ways.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 18:10
Happy Death Day was pretty good, Source Code too, and Tenet of course. As far as goofy B movies Jean-Claude VanDamme's Time Cop was not too bad.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 18:13
I'd like to come to Turkey, but will hide my Islamophobia.;) I'm rather phobic when it comes to many religions. Had some bad experiences, and some people hold it against me that my mother was a jackal :( ;)
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 18:20
Logan wrote:
I'd like to come to Turkey, but will hide my Islamophobia.;) I'm rather phobic when it comes to many religions. Had some bad experiences, and some people hold it against me that my mother was a jackal :( ;)
I guess as long as you don't wear a shirt written "Islam sucks" on it, you won't face many problems here. Even then, most of us don't understand the English language. So, if you want trouble, you can attack Islam in the Turkish language. You may not see the other day, be warned.
I'm an apatheist, and I prefer to ignore the religions normally. I'm rarely offensive. But, I always say that I don't believe such nonsense in every environment, if asked. If I want trouble, I sometimes do so without being asked too. Luckily, I've been victorious so far. Hahah.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 18:43
Shadowyzard wrote:
Logan wrote:
I'd like to come to Turkey, but will hide my Islamophobia.;) I'm rather phobic when it comes to many religions. Had some bad experiences, and some people hold it against me that my mother was a jackal :( ;)
I guess as long as you don't wear a shirt written "Islam sucks" on it, you won't face many problems here. Even then, most of us don't understand the English language. So, if you want trouble, you can attack Islam in the Turkish language. You may not see the other day, be warned.
I'm an apatheist, and I prefer to ignore the religions normally. I'm rarely offensive. But, I always say that I don't believe such nonsense in every environment, if asked. If I want trouble, I sometimes do so without being asked too. Luckily, I've been victorious so far. Hahah.
I won't wear my Mohammad cartoon shirts. Better than in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan methinks. I notice many religious people who could be considered on the phobic side when it comes to how thetly view non-believers (atheists, agnostics), Pagans, Satanists (I've met some very nice ones though for many it's an FU to religions) but there isn't seemingly as much made about that in the media here let alone having those people labeled phobes (a phobia being a psychological condition involving an extreme irrational fear). I mean I never hear people called atheophobes or agnostophobes. ; ) I think phobia diagnoses should be left to the psychologists anyway. I dislike persecution and hatred by both the religious and non-religious.
Of only I had a time machine, then maybe I could go back and create a world where we would get along much better and be open to different ideas ,leading to ages of reason.. I could go back in time again with my juicematic mindblender if they weren't willing to listen the first time.... Mindblending films would be a fun topic. The Lawnmower Man did that, although that was more mindmulching.
Excuse any typos, doing this on my phone but that doesn't excuse the nonsense.
Edit: sorry for going off on the Islamophobia, I just dislike the term as it is commonly used by non-psychologists. Anti-Muslim bigotry would be better. I'm sure the true phobia exists, but the thing about a phobia is that it negatively affects the person who suffers from it. This taints everyone who has phobias when phobes are maligned. I developed acrophobia at one time, despite having been an avid climber due to an accident with a friend -- he died. I don't think many nice people would have maligned me for my phobia. People traumatised by ISIS attacks may have developed a phobia too when it comes to Islam (an irrational and extreme fear). The government here tried to pas a hate crime bill specifically referencing Islamophobia. I emailed them saying that instead of stigmatizing phobes, and criminalizing phobias, they should fund treatment by psychologists to treat the phobias and give advice on how to deal with these irrational fears. It's an unfortunate term that gained common acceptance, I think. Homophobia is a real thing too, but I won't call People like the Islamic State, and other Islamic groups, automatically homophobes for how they treat homosexuals and see homosexuality.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 19:20
Time Bandits and The Navigator: A Medieval Odyssey.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 05:17
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 06:38
The Final Countdown (1980) starring Kirk Douglas
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 07:07
The Time Machine (1960), should be on this list.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 07:09
dwill123 wrote:
The Time Machine (1960), should be on this list.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
I just wanted to post about this movie.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 07:13
^ I don't remember watching it, even if I did when I was an adolescent or kid. Pre-70s cinema... I'm eager to discover it, and already doing that albeit steadily and slowly.
I loved The Time Machine (2002) though. I wouldn't say it is a masterpiece, but the year 2002 is somehow special for me. I realised it in the recent years.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 09:38
I don't think that that Time Machine should be here. I wouldn't think of it as obscure. It's a classic film adapted from a classic novel made by a very famous writer. And when it comes to temporal dynamics, I tend to favour a deterministic view in that what is not here should not be here in a deterministic sense, but then I was bound to say that, just as you are bound to say that it should be here from that linear causal effect perspective.
It reminded me of a related one I love, Time After Time. Not much of a mind-bender, but a fun time-bender, featuring Evil from Time Bandits as another quite evil character. I love David Warner.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 22:48
Hi,
The Navigator is the film I voted for.
I think I remember an Australian film that also fits, but for the life of me, I cannot remember its name. Originally I thought "The Last Wave" would fit since it is hard to figure out where the images are from and all that, but I'm not sure that it would be a good choice.
It's an interesting list, nonetheless, and there are some things that I will be looking for from that list.
Time Bandits is fine, but ... I think it was just too satirical than otherwise, and in some ways The Baron Munchhausen would be better since things move all over the place from the earth to the moon to some planet out there and so on, but this could be a stretch and like Monty Python, I thought a lot of their material was about making sure they could "displace" your view and ideas. One shot in The Baron M film that I absolutely love is the one in the theater, and the character turns to his left, and boom ... they are somewhere else. That is a breath-taking shot and really, speaks more for our minds and imaginations than it does something else. But it was neat!
(But I admit that the Botticelli thing had me dreaming about Uma for a long time. Been trying to make a bedroom like that in my own place! )
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 00:55
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 01:25
I suspected he may have been a Morlock. The resemblance is uncanny.
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 12:52
How could I ever forget to add Russian Ark here? It is one of my absolute favourite movies and perfectly fits here.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 13:19
The Final Countdown (1980) - starring Kirk Douglas. Martin Sheen, Katherine Ross & James Farentino.
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 13:33
Archisorcerus wrote:
How could I ever forget to add Russian Ark here? It is one of my absolute favourite movies and perfectly fits here.
It's a phenomenal achievement logistically, one single 88 minute take around the Hermitage... I have most of Sokurov's films. My choice: After Life (Kore-eda, 1998)
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 15:50
From this list I'm only familiar with Project Almanac, so voted accordingly. Others I can think of that are under 100K ratings are Synchronic and The Endless (and Resolution should be watched before this).
Several films on this list are on my "things to buy" list, so in due time I hope to watch more of these, especially Time Bandits, Time Lapse, and The Navigator.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 19:51
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
The Final Countdown (1980) - starring Kirk Douglas. Martin Sheen, Katherine Ross & James Farentino.
'The Final Countdown', was not a bad movie at all. The only knock I had was it's superficial treatment of the time travel thing. I did enjoy the play on what might happen if they were to alter things in the past. Plus, any Navy vessel where Super Fly is the Commander of the boat can't be all bad.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 20:27
^ Why do I think that was a slightly classier version of The Philadelphia Experiment ~?
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 07:29
Not sure if this complies with the OP but Altered States from 1980 directed by Ken Russell (don't let that put you off) and featuring William Hurt in his screen debut explores the possibilities of sensory deprivation techniques that regress the subject to a devolved state of being e.g. in this case, a prehistoric caveman
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 10:32
Voted Time Bandits.
^ Altered States is just brilliant. I hadn't realized it was William Hurt's first film.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 11:16
Hi,
Not sure it fits, but I thought of THE TIN DRUM as a sort of story that bent time ... or at least bent one mind!
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: January 07 2023 at 10:07
Time Bandits
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: January 07 2023 at 10:23
Freaks (2018) is another movie that I could've had added to the list.
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 07:13
I know it's not a movie, but the series "Dark" is probably ranks as one of the most bent series - mentally and temporally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_(TV_series)
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 09:58
^ Agree about Dark, it's mind-boggling for sure.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 17:26
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Posted By: Hugh Manatee
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 19:23
https://www.kevinmuldoon.com/primer-film/" rel="nofollow - Primer - The Smartest Time Travel Film Ever Made - (kevinmuldoon.com)
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 21:31
Voted Lathe of Heaven......but the 1980 version is better...follows the book better and is better acted.
The book is excellent btw.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 10 2023 at 13:31
Hi,
It's really difficult to make a call on this ... but if there is a film that really knock you down and out, and totally leaves you ...wow ... it would be the ending of "Manon of the Spring". You go for 4 hours in 2 films ("Jean de Florette" is the first one) ... and you only know what is going on, and happened in the last 10 minutes of the 2nd film, and you really had no clue about it all.
It was an incredible moment for a pair of films by Claude Berri ...
There are others ... I keep thinking of that Australian film "A Woman's Tale" and its incredible story and performances, specially by Sheila Florence, who barely finished the film before she passed away. It is an amazing film, and for an elder performer to put it all together one more time ... it's a major wow.
I'm actually having a hard time deciding what other films I should list ... but there are many!
(Added later)
Bad Timing, A Sensual Obsession - Nicolas Roeg ... the ending is unreal.
Bedazzled - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore ... beautiful ending with George getting mad.
Performance - Nicolas Roeg and Donald Cammell ... Outstanding twist ending makes film even more difficult to figure out!
Fellini's Roma - Federico Fellini ... He probably should have other films listed here, but the ending of this one is way out there and incredible. But the opening of "Intervista" with the kid taking his pee, is worth all the mentions, and the image that you will come back to the most. C'mon ... the kid had to take a pee! I usually say Federico is that kid! AND, of course, the Church went to war again! And lost!
Luis Bunuel ... Really hard to decide which film to mention since so many of them are nuts and end up even more way out there confusing the viewer. No one bends time better than him ... check out The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie" which goes through the minds of just about all characters!
Gaspar Noe ... I thought about mentioning some of his stuff since it is almost unwatchable by most folks, but it is crazy and insane in some of them. And I'm not sure anyone can bend it better than a story going backwards to the beginning!
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 07:05
Another series (not a movie, sorry) is The Umbrella Academy, now streaming on Netflix. Three seasons so far, with a fourth in the works. (The IMDB description doesn't hint at the time bending aspects that underlie all three seasons). If you're in the mood for some sci-fi/fantasy with just enough whimsy to keep things light and fun, check it out. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1312171/" rel="nofollow - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1312171/
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 09:00
The Lathe of Heaven (1980)
Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 11:16
I've just finished The Lazarus Project TV show. It has a neat premise for going back in time using check points, which adds a new model for time travel with some very interesting ideas. 8 episodes and a second season to come. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt14190592/" rel="nofollow - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14190592/
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 11:49
Frequency (2000) is also quite cool, yet it doesn't fit my criterion of having less than 100K ratings on IMDb.
Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: April 22 2023 at 15:33
I've recently seen Die Tür (The Door). It is a German flick yet I watched it with English dubs. Quite good and allegorically impressive. I'd certainy have included it in this list of mine if I had watched it earlier. The allegory is more dominant here than the fantasy/sci-fi aspect though, howbeit it still fits my criterion.
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 22 2023 at 17:16