Something very strange
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Topic: Something very strange
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Subject: Something very strange
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 05:16
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I noticed something strange, I reviewed Pendragon's new album some hours ago - when it was at 300 ratings and an overall rating 4.10. All good so far, after my review the number of ratings dropped to 297, but the overall rating jumped up to 4.16 (given that my review was a 4-star one). What is happening? Some glitches in the site? Would be good if someone clears up why this is.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 05:18
must have been some rating abuse that has got rid of I believe.
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A Crimson Mellotron wrote:Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 05:23
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Yes, it seems some loonies have been padding the Pentangle albums with 5 stars which Damo has just thrown out. I hope that was the problem you encountered. Pentangle padding? Geez, they're not King Crimson. ;)
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 05:38
Actually, the loonies were padding Karfagen and Modern Rock Ensemble with 5 Star ratings/reviews while bombing one stars on Pendragon/Opeth/Motorpsycho. However that Pendragon album does have quite a bit of padding itself to even the playing fields  imagine your sense of fulfillment being dependent on where an album you like places on a year end user-rated list------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 05:44
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 05:56
Both are Ukrainian bands... If Svettie was Ukrainian, he would be my prime usual suspect.
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 05:59
Jesus Christ, this is the idiotic side of places like this, a bit disappointing to see such people on PA
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 06:05
 I've heard that Svettie has many, many cousins that look exactly like him in Ukraine. I've never met Svettie but I've always imagined that he looks and talks like Borat.
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:06
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:07
Hi, Again, it goes with my thoughts that the "ability" to rate something is too easy, and should be changed to a process more inclusive and beneficial to PA. I was thinking that "reviews" have to be done only by people that get "registered" with the PA group as a REVIEWER ... and for us this would mean, an ACTIVE MEMBER of PA ... not someone just plastering ratings, because they can ... and give Damo more work that is not necessary! It will, likely, change a lot of ratings, btw, in the end ... Again, this is FIX'ABLE. AND should be!
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:43
"Something very stange"........and here I was expecting a thread on ufos, bigfoot, or Trump being caught out as an alien....how disappointing it's just album ratings. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:47
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If you want strange Doc, then check out the gurus in the General Discussions thread.
;)
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:53
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How would one register to be a reviewer? Or do you mean to begin a new process that does not presently exist? Because surely anyone who is reviewing at the moment is registered? (Don't mind me. I'm easily confused...) ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 09:55
there is no registering as a reviewer. But users that are writing actively reviews will become "prog reviewers" in title. That's all.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 10:00
Yes..I noticed that thread...I think I'll post something else there in a moment. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 10:43
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Karfagen, like Neal Morse (to a much lesser degree) is one of those artists that I just take 0.50 off each of their album ratings in my head, because I know their fans are gonna drop 5 stars on anything they touch even if it's the most generic lightweight modern prog in the business.
I dig Modern Rock Ensemble though.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 12:20
Hi, There might/could be two "options" to the membership, and one is participate in the Forums, which would NOT entail reviews, just opinions and likes and dislikes. Another option, would likely be approved by admins, and would allow "reviews" ... this has a two fold result ... it cuts down the spams in the "reviews", many of which ARE NOT REVIEWS AT ALL (and should be removed!), while also ensuring that the content of the reviews is proper to the album and band. Something like ... it isn't progressive because it doesn't sound like Yes or Genesis ... should never (EVER!) be allowed in a review ... and that is the main difference in what a "review" is what was is not ... and the other is the great attraction for saying how fantastic the solo of the guitar is, and then how fantastic the keyboards add to the bridge or the end. Usually that is a fan speaking ... not a review. A review would define those terms and usage WITHIN the context of the piece of music ... the fan, DOES NOT! The main result is that it would change the contents of the "reviews" to a lot less "fan-boys" and into something explaining the music more. Right now, the reviews are insane and the bad ones in the middle of the good ones, really hurt the album and its "presence" within PA ... We're here to promote "progressive music", not to "fan-boy" it, or to post ridiculously silly comments. I'm OK with opinions, but fans usually DO NOT back up the opinions, and as such ... THAT DOES NOT A REVIEW MAKE! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 12:32
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is it ok if I'm Ukrainian and not a fan of both? Just askin... try La Horsa Bianca ( https://lahorsabianca.bandcamp.com/album/somatic-schematic" rel="nofollow - bandcamp ), they're my current fave local prog band: They're not on PA smh tho  Another recommendation, if you're into heavier side of things, are these dudes: Vovk ( https://vovk.bandcamp.com/album/lair" rel="nofollow - bandcamp ) |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 13:53
Have we had a sudden influx of tinfoil loonies? ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 14:04
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Well, it's a sign of the times I'm afraid. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 15:35
QUOTE=dr wu23]"Something very stange"........and here I was expecting a thread on ufos, bigfoot, or Trump being caught out as an alien....how disappointing it's just album ratings. My avatar at one time was a bigfoot playing guitar. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 04:25
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^ Music + Absurd = Prog. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 04:27
this means that Music + Absurd - Prog=0
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Posted By: triptych
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 06:44
 
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