The Specials for RIO?
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Topic: The Specials for RIO?
Posted By: softandwet
Subject: The Specials for RIO?
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 00:06
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You shall begin to know me and my weird request about including bands in the prog spectrum ; but this one kinda hit it actually. Even if it got the Ska etiquette, The Specials have a developped sense of humor and a political/sociological message in almost every of their songs, as well as expérimentations with sounds, blends of musical genres and typical prog instruments (organs etc) What do you think about it? NB:This is not an actual request, just a slight suggestion ------------- So don’t evade the surgeon’s blade Cos the answer could be in your mind Maybe one cut and we’ll find We’re just a wavelength behind But we are entwined And I know what you need |
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Posted By: softandwet
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 00:08
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I just reckon a mellotron in one of their muzak tune, Do Nothing ------------- So don’t evade the surgeon’s blade Cos the answer could be in your mind Maybe one cut and we’ll find We’re just a wavelength behind But we are entwined And I know what you need |
Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 01:30
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Words fail me. ------------- |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 02:18
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I like The Specials, but their music bears absolutely no relation to that of any RIO band and it's beyond me why anyone would think it did. Also, organ is a “prog instrument” in the same sense that guitar or drums are - i.e. in no specific sense at all. Likewise, writing lyrics with wit, humour, social and political commentary etc is in no way a distinguishing characteristic of RIO bands. Such lyrical elements can be found in every genre of popular music. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 07:04
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Despite my appreciation for SKA and some Punk, I see no relations with prog at all. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 09:49
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Yes, mammals with a pulse wedded to consciousnesses and using an organ. Sounds like my late Uncle Peter chipped off his tits on Craven Mild Ready Rubbed. At last, the stifling conservatism that has hitherto denied Jess Yates his richly deserved place in Prog Archives has finally been lifted. How about another slight suggestion that you promise to never post here again? ------------- 
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 10:17
| ^ A bit harsh, don't you think? |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 10:52
Everyone is Special in their own way.  ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 11:00
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Too funny, love The Specials. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 11:05
Enjoy yourself  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 29 2020 at 12:09
Yep, possible use of a mellotron in one song definitely qualifies a band as prog.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 06:57
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i'd rather have The Teletubbies in, since at least all the music was written by someone who is actually on the site (and I'd be interested to see if anyone can guess who it is). ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 07:06
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Do you mean one featured or one of our mates? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 07:28
------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 08:44
------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 08:47
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oh wait... wrong thread   |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 08:52
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Teletubbies composer is: Andrew William John McCrorie-Shand from Druid The backup band contains some big names including Donald Dunn, Roger Hawkin and Steve Cropper ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 09:05
| I'm amazed at how angry and upset people can get by a suggestion |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 09:39
Don't see anyone angry here, just some gentle ribbing. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 10:10
 ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 15:35
Well done, Easy Money. Andy McCrorie-Shand was indeed the musical arranger for The Teletubbies. And Druid bassist Neil Brewer was the boatman on the final 2 series of Rosie and Jim. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 21:21
Moved to General Music Discussions as you don;t wish to formally suggest this band. From http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13082" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13082
As for The Specials, I don't know them well, but I have never heard of them associated with the Rock in Opposition (RIO) movement, and if they were to be considered part of RIO, I think Chris Cutler, Recommended Records. and RIO festival organisers would be better ones to make that call than PA. Of course the R.I.O. universe (or Univers) has expanded beyond the core RIO bands of the first two festivals, which included Henry Cow (England), Stormy Six (Italy), Samla Mammas Manna (Sweden), Univers Zero (Belgium), Etron Fou Leloublan (France), Art Bears (Great Britain), Art Zoyd (France) and Aksak Maboul (Belgium) and can be thought of as an approach to music and commentary on the music industry and art. It was political, was opposed to the music "industry" and expected that the bands work outside of the rock establishment, expected a commitment to musical "excellence", has been leftist generally, and has had various core values in regards to acceptance under the RIO fold. One can loosely also refer to it as bands that sound similar to core RIO bands. Present I can happily consider RIO, but it very related, various chamber rock bands, Guapo, Aranis etc. which sound "right" and have played RIO festivals..., or News From Babel etc.) The Specials that I have heard don't remind me much of any RIO band's music. let alone would I know a reason why they would be considered to be related to the movement. |
Posted By: Gully Foyle
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 07:26
| If nothing else this thread has caused me to consider, just what would skog sound like? |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 01 2020 at 07:43
Like this, confusingly: ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: Gully Foyle
Date Posted: September 01 2020 at 13:36
| I can't tell if they are covering 'Monkey Man' or 'Ghost Town' - my ears need more training |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 06:26
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Does This mean The Dead Kennedys' - The Prey could be prog? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceObPBJsO5M |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 07:13
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they remiend me more of Madness then Rio -------------  
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 14:46
| Love Specials, Madness, London Beat but no way i considered them RIO bands |