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Battle Of The Prog Epics Part 3!

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Topic: Battle Of The Prog Epics Part 3!
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Subject: Battle Of The Prog Epics Part 3!
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 04:05
Yes "Close to The Edge" vs Genesis "Supper's Ready" vs Jethro Tull "Thick As A Brick Part Parts 1 & 2"

Which track is the superior, ultimate prog eipc? GO!


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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 04:11
1. Yes - Close to The Edge
I'm unsure about my preference between Genesis - Supper's Ready and Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick 1 & 2 but I think I would lean towards Jethro Tull.
 
 


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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 04:13
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Which track is the superior, ultimate prog eipc? GO!
 
However, if we are talking about the ultimate prog epic, then it would have to be A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers.
 
 


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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 04:18
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Which track is the superior, ultimate prog eipc? GO!
 
However, if we are talking about the ultimate prog epic, then it would have to be A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers.
 
 

That's coming next round!


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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 04:24
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Which track is the superior, ultimate prog eipc? GO!
 
However, if we are talking about the ultimate prog epic, then it would have to be A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers. 

That's coming next round!
 
It'll get a few votes, though I don't think it'll win.
 
 


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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 04:31
Still Suppers Ready for me.

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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 04:45
SR - TAAB ----------------------------------------------- CTTE


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 04:55
It's a close call between CTTE and SR, but I've gone for CTTE for being a more cohesive song rather than SR which is basically different songs stuck together.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 05:15
Walking across the sitting room . . .

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 05:51
Thick as a Bricktakes my vote.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 05:57
It's a Yes vote from me. Smile


Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 07:10
The big G for me on this one.

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 07:22
Absolutely Thick as a Brick.


Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 12:05
Supper's Ready is THE epic of all epics


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 14:15
If anyone is not getting goose bumps in anticipation of the apocalypse section when listening to SR, then you are basically dead.
Close To The Edge - nothing wrong with it and the playing is great , but there is no apocalypse section
TAAB - ditto CTTE


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 14:31
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

If anyone is not getting goose bumps in anticipation of the apocalypse section when listening to SR, then you are basically dead.
Close To The Edge - nothing wrong with it and the playing is great , but there is no apocalypse section
TAAB - ditto CTTE
Could not have described it better! Clap 
Supper's Ready is about as brilliant as it gets, I honestly doubt there is anything in the progressive rock genre that tops what Genesis did.



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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 15:12
CTTE and Supper are both brilliant......as much as I like CTTE, I'll go for Supper.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 20:34
Tull

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Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 20:53
Again, Supper's Ready.

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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 20:55
Supper’s Ready

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 00:32
Still CTTE for me. The apex of symphonic progressive rock. The only band that dethrones Genesis is Yes.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 00:56
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Still CTTE for me. The apex of symphonic progressive rock. The only band that dethrones Genesis is Yes.

I can't disagree with that but while I prefer Yes over all I think close to the edge(the song)repeats itself too much and isn't quite as interesting or exciting as Supper's Ready. Plus what's up with part in the middle where it sounds like water is dripping? 


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 10:23
Supper’s Ready > Close To The Edge>Thick As A Brick Parts 1/2

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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 10:27
all 3 are amazing

but

Really don't mind if you sit this one out


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Prog On!


Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 12:51
Far too much saxaphone in Plague of Lighthouse keepers...but it it has the best ever track title....😎

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Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......


Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 12:57
And I voted for suppers ready, slightly ahead of The edge...

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Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 14:11
"The" prog epic is probably either CTTE or Supper's Ready... but TAAB is the one I prefer to listen to.


Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 15:17
Close to the Edge slightly beats Supper's Ready.


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 20:43
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

too much saxaphone
 
Too much saxophone??!!! Is that a thing?
 
 


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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 22:02
TAAB for me.

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: July 09 2020 at 23:19
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Still CTTE for me. The apex of symphonic progressive rock. The only band that dethrones Genesis is Yes.
As a big Beefheart-fan, how´s Jethro for you?


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 10 2020 at 00:09
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Still CTTE for me. The apex of symphonic progressive rock. The only band that dethrones Genesis is Yes.

I can't disagree with that but while I prefer Yes over all I think close to the edge(the song)repeats itself too much and isn't quite as interesting or exciting as Supper's Ready. Plus what's up with part in the middle where it sounds like water is dripping? 

Trust me, I get it, lol. 

Anderson was obsessed with sound samples; the birds during the opening were his idea, water dripping is ALWAYS a Jon Anderson idea - he wanted bathroom tiles for simulated reverb on vocals on TFTO, lol.

Total Mass Retain is a very under-appreciated section of prog music IMHO! It has the most dynamic of almost the entire song!


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Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: July 10 2020 at 04:20
Although I love CTTE and TAAB, for me is SR the winner anyway. I've heard it around 1982-83 for the first time and even after such a long time I immensely enjoy every listening to it till today. And Apocalypse in 9/8 section - it's maybe the best moment in prog music for me :-)


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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: July 10 2020 at 10:32
Supper 


Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: July 10 2020 at 14:14
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

too much saxaphone

 
Too much saxophone??!!! Is that a thing?
 
 

Aye....when a sax solo makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up like a solo by Hackett or Stolt I will.change my mind..sax is a jazz instrument not prog.....

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Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 11 2020 at 00:29
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

too much saxaphone

 
Too much saxophone??!!! Is that a thing?
 
 

Aye....when a sax solo makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up like a solo by Hackett or Stolt I will.change my mind..sax is a jazz instrument not prog.....

Right, and guitar is a rock instrument, not prog, So Steve Hackett is a rock musician, and therefore equally exempt from your own logic as sax playing.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 12 2020 at 01:40
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

too much saxaphone

 
Too much saxophone??!!! Is that a thing?
 
 

Aye....when a sax solo makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up like a solo by Hackett or Stolt I will.change my mind..sax is a jazz instrument not prog.....

Sorry but Scorched Earth by VDGG might be my favourite prog track and the sax is what really makes it. I get goosebumps every time. 

The only time when I got annoyed with the inclusion is when Tangerine Dream included it on their 90's albums. It was a case of well we've got no ideas , so over to you Mrs Sax Player , make something up and fill in the holes. It can feel a bit like that at times admittedly.




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