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Topic: Genesis: Album RatingsPosted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Genesis: Album Ratings
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 03:10
IN THE BEGINNING there were five members of Charterhouse School who ONE DAY decided to form a band. That band was GENESIS. They were LOOKING FOR SOMEONE to promote and produce their first album when a WINDOW of opportunity came along in the shape of Jonathan King, a DUKE of record producers working BEHIND THE LINES at the time. The album "FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION" entered a LAND OF CONFUSION and MISUNDERSTANDING though when many record stores placed the album in their religious music sections due to the religious-sounding title. The album and first single "SILENT SUN" both flopped, and barely caused any RIPPLES in the music press either, despite Jonathan King CALLING ALL STATIONS to try and promote the album and single on the radio. GENESIS' second single "A WINTER'S TALE" was also met with about as much indifference as A FLY ON A WINDSHIELD by radio stations and barely NO REPLY AT ALL from the music press. Their record company Decca became ENTANGLED in a dispute when it was discovered there was another band in America called GENESIS, but by A TRICK OF THE TAIL, the band managed to keep their name ANYWAY by changing their name to "Revelation" in the United States.
The music business has always been as fickle as a HARLEQUIN, where THE DIVIDING LINE between success and failure depends on a combination of good luck and hard work. Every new band is sailing through UNCERTAIN WEATHER where they can easily be dragged down by the UNDERTOW and SHIPWRECKED by having THE KNIFE stuck into them by their record company or by the music press. THAT'S ALL it takes to finish a band's career. There's NEVER A TIME when it's been easy to make it in the tough music business, but LIKE IT OR NOT, that's just the WAY OF THE WORLD. No astrological WATCHER OF THE SKIES can predict who's going to make it in today's cynical music industry, where the chances of success are about as hard as climbing a WHITE MOUNTAIN of snow before the FADING LIGHTS of DUSK close in.
AFTER THE ORDEAL of seeing the commercial failure of their first album, GENESIS were IN LIMBO and left out IN THE WILDERNESS during a short period of STAGNATION when the band members returned to their studies at Charterhouse. They weren't DOWN AND OUT or TAKING IT ALL TOO HARD though, because making great music was far more than JUST A JOB TO DO for the five talented band members. Contrary to being IN HIDING, GENESIS were just COUNTING OUT TIME in THE WAITING ROOM of THE CINEMA SHOW of life before returning to the recording studio. The band members were confident of THE MUSICAL BOX of talent they had between them and their HORIZONS were positively bright with the general feeling that IT'S GONNA GET BETTER soon. GENESIS were working to a TIME TABLE and they didn't plan on LIVING FOREVER on borrowed time, or waiting around each day until SUPPER'S READY. They were IN TOO DEEP to consider THROWING IT ALL AWAY at this late stage. The band were more than ready to TURN IT ON AGAIN with an INVISIBLE TOUCH of magic with the release of their next album, "TRESPASS". It would be several albums later though before GENESIS were basking in the AFTERGLOW of a successful album release, followed by the DOMINO effect of success breeding further success in the proverbial AISLE OF PLENTY.
All song titles in HIGHLIGHTS by Genesis
How many PA stars would you assign to each Genesis album listed below?
1969: Genesis - From Genesis to Revelation - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls8TsNNijJYxxnS-Kp5ts8t" rel="nofollow - 1970: Genesis - Trespass - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuZha0g4IGPuYTYa2ojNJ5a" rel="nofollow - 1971: Genesis - Nursery Cryme - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvvRA8-vhtqeavlv9_TYkI9" rel="nofollow - 1972: Genesis - Foxtrot - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LutOVRL4O2LYbAaPtNQjtzt" rel="nofollow - 1973: Genesis - Genesis Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lus98yp-GOfBWcQfVmPP6L1" rel="nofollow - 1973: Genesis - Selling England by the Pound - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls8c3SxGZW2wPNWTifikotc" rel="nofollow - 1974: Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvZRqTE0R8CKQn3uj02Eete" rel="nofollow - 1975: Genesis - The Lamb Comes Alive - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuIqt0pO-maT_M-6HEl4Z74" rel="nofollow - 1976: Genesis - A Trick of the Tail - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuNpwmZ8GoikYtQy7QBk7n9" rel="nofollow - 1976: Genesis - Wind & Wuthering - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtklfWs1Vn7vBe5S3-akc7A" rel="nofollow - 1977: Genesis - In Concert - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lv9vwzg9cHapUHoredylq7a" rel="nofollow - 1977: Genesis - Seconds Out - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lvo8voJt2dgX8_fMbtSeK2" rel="nofollow - 1978: Genesis - And Then There Were Three - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lu_v2KJ4Drut19mv5NA5Vbb" rel="nofollow - 1980: Genesis - Duke - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuhvokGgqGhqePfy2PSVC0e" rel="nofollow - 1980: Genesis - Duke's Tour - Live in London - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsakRPFG5xzS9M1Bt6ZUIsf" rel="nofollow - 1981: Genesis - Abacab - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LualU3IIHUGJWlepYRMzkfk" rel="nofollow - 1982: Genesis - Three Sides Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ltg7GbpNLEDWhkCYaKHjuwI" rel="nofollow - 1983: Genesis - Genesis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsV-Ocua4iC4rU9TaLcLMS8" rel="nofollow - 1984: Genesis - The Mama Tour - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuYkoE3hmwPDXrzniIygwJL" rel="nofollow - 1986: Genesis - Invisible Touch - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LueLtgXMm4tJJVvTRrDpy6E" rel="nofollow - 1987: Genesis - The Invisible Touch Tour - Live at Wembley Stadium - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtfP3gvjZFp8aRa4u4N4naZ" rel="nofollow - 1991: Genesis - We Can't Dance - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsimrBR6o-95oLdeLTMch9" rel="nofollow - 1992: Genesis - The Way We Walk, Volume 1: The Shorts - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtiJfPLwHyqHvA89AJ-6XAJ" rel="nofollow - 1993: Genesis - The Way We Walk, Volume 2: The Longs - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvqCgkdpSIQIR_Td5siylSk" rel="nofollow - 1997: Genesis - Calling All Stations - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvGUqnvmEO9Kxq-tjOJ-TcX" rel="nofollow - 1998: Genesis - Live in Katowice, Poland - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lsay_xIB0GrhENO4VCbYT_x" rel="nofollow - 2007: Genesis - When in Rome - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt2rNoVqigp6jGiy_u9Jw06" rel="nofollow -
Replies: Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 04:00
From Genesis to Revelation - 3 Trespass - 4 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 5 Genesis Live - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 4 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 4 Seconds Out - 5 And then there were Three - 4 Duke - 4 Abacab - 3 Three sides Live - 4 Genesis - 4 Invisible Touch - 2 We Can't Dance - 3 The way we walk - 3 Calling all Stations - 2
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 04:05
^^ I was tempted to give Calling All Stations a 2-star rating too, because it doesn't sound anything like a Genesis album to me, but judged on its own merits, the album just about scraped through with a 3-star rating.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 05:57
Limited to studio albums only:
From Genesis to Revelation - 3
Trespass - 4 Nursery Cryme - 5 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 4 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 3 Duke - 3 Abacab - 2 Genesis - 3 Invisible Touch - 3 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 3
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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 06:24
From Genesis to Revelation - 2
Trespass - 4
Nursery Cryme - 4
Foxtrot - 4
Genesis Live - 4
Selling England by the Pound - 5
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5
A Trick of the Tail - 5
Wind & Wuthering - 4
Seconds Out - 4
And Then There Were Three - 3
Duke - 4
Abacab - 3
Three Sides Live - 4
Genesis - 3
Invisible Touch - 3
We Can't Dance - 3
The Way We Walk (Shorts/Longs) - 2/3
Calling All Stations - 3
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 09:11
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^^ I was tempted to give Calling All Stations a 2-star rating too, because it doesn't sound anything like a Genesis album to me, but judged on its own merits, the album just about scraped through with a 3-star rating.
I agree with most of your ratings except Duke would be a four and maybe a three for ATTWT. Other than that it would be very similar.
Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 09:18
From Genesis to Revelation - 2 Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 4 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 3 Duke - 4 Abacab - 2 Genesis - 3 Invisible Touch - 3 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 1
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 09:20
Albums from 1970 to 1978 are 5 stars. (It's Genesis for Christ's sake!). Albums 1980-1981 are 3 stars. All the albums following 1981 are 2 stars including From Genesis To Revelation from 1969.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 10:33
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^^ I was tempted to give Calling All Stations a 2-star rating too, because it doesn't sound anything like a Genesis album to me, but judged on its own merits, the album just about scraped through with a 3-star rating.
I agree with most of your ratings except Duke would be a four and maybe a three for ATTWT. Other than that it would be very similar.
"And Then There Were Three" sounds like a crossover album to me where Genesis were evolving from a Prog-Rock band into a regular Pop/Rock band, but not for the better - although it didn't do their album sales any harm throughout the 1980's.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 11:12
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^^ I was tempted to give Calling All Stations a 2-star rating too, because it doesn't sound anything like a Genesis album to me, but judged on its own merits, the album just about scraped through with a 3-star rating.
I agree with most of your ratings except Duke would be a four and maybe a three for ATTWT. Other than that it would be very similar.
"And Then There Were Three" sounds like a crossover album to me where Genesis were evolving from a Prog-Rock band into a regular Pop/Rock band, but not for the better - although it didn't do their album sales any harm throughout the 1980's.
Don't let the hit song fool you. ATTWT is fricken' awesome. I wish it was a double album as the group claimed to have enough songs available at the time.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 11:28
Deadwing wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 2 Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 4 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 3 Duke - 4 Abacab - 2 Genesis - 3 Invisible Touch - 3 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 1
We agree on about half of the Genesis album ratings, although a 1-star rating for Calling All Stations is a bit harsh.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 11:31
someone_else wrote:
Limited to studio albums only:
From Genesis to Revelation - 3
Trespass - 4 Nursery Cryme - 5 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 4 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 3 Duke - 3 Abacab - 2 Genesis - 3 Invisible Touch - 3 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 3
Your ratings are the most similar to mine out of all the Genesis ratings lists posted here so far.
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 18 2020 at 11:37
A different ranking - by first love:
1. Selling England
2. Trespass
3. Live
4. The Lamb Lies Down
5. A Trick of the Tail
6. Wind and Wuthering
7. ...and then there were three..
8. Duke
9. Three Sides Live
10. Genesis to Revealation
11. Nursery Cryme
12. Foxtrot
I did not buy 'on release' after Duke...
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 19 2020 at 10:22
FGTR *
Trespass ***
Cryme ****
Foxtrot *****
SEBTP ***
Lamb ****
Trick *****
W&W ****
ATTWT ****
Duke ***
Abacab **
Genesis ***
Invisible Touch **
We Can't Dance **
CAS *
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 19 2020 at 10:47
Rick1 wrote:
A different ranking - by first love:
1. Selling England
2. Trespass
3. Live
4. The Lamb Lies Down
5. A Trick of the Tail
6. Wind and Wuthering
7. ...and then there were three..
8. Duke
9. Three Sides Live
10. Genesis to Revealation
11. Nursery Cryme
12. Foxtrot
I'm really surprised that Foxtrot only just scrapes in at #12 on your list when it's one of the most highly-regarded albums here.
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: June 19 2020 at 11:09
From Genesis to Revelation - 3
Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 5 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 4 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 3 Duke - 3 Abacab - 2 Genesis - 3 Invisible Touch - 2 We Can't Dance - 2 Calling all Stations - 2
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 19 2020 at 13:24
Progmind wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 3
Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 5 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 4 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 3 Duke - 3 Abacab - 2 Genesis - 3 Invisible Touch - 2 We Can't Dance - 2 Calling all Stations - 2
That looks like a very fair rating for all of Genesis' albums and it's very much in line with my own album ratings. I was tempted to give the disappointing Abacab and Calling All Stations albums lowly 2-star ratings too, but I must have been in a generous mood that day when I was handing ratings out.
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 19 2020 at 16:42
From Genesis to Revelation - 3.5
Trespass - 4 Nursery Cryme - 4.5 Foxtrot - 4 Selling England by the Pound - 4.5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 4.5 Wind & Wuthering - 4 And then there were Three - 4 Duke - 3.5 Abacab - 3.5 Genesis - 4 Invisible Touch - 3 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 2.5
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 20 2020 at 01:20
Spacegod87 wrote:
Wow, you're super confident with handing out those 5 stars.
Yes, it's true that I gave nine Genesis albums in a row a full 5-star rating, although I would have felt guilty at giving any of those classic albums anything less than five stars.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 20 2020 at 03:13
From Genesis to Revelation - 3
Trespass - 4 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 4
Live - 4
Selling England by the Pound - 4.5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 4 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 4
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: July 01 2020 at 06:58
FGTR - 0
Trespass - 3
Nursery Cryme - 4
Foxtrot - 5
SEBTP - 5
TLLDOB - 5
Trick of the Tail - 4
Wind and Wuthering - 4
ATTWT - 3
Duke - 5
Abacab - 4
Genesis - 4 (only because of Home by the Sea)
Invisible Touch - 3
We Can't Dance - 3
Calling all Stations - 1
They're all great though.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 01 2020 at 07:01
FatherChristmas wrote:
FGTR - 0
Trespass - 3
Nursery Cryme - 4
Foxtrot - 5
SEBTP - 5
TLLDOB - 5
Trick of the Tail - 4
Wind and Wuthering - 4
ATTWT - 3
Duke - 5
Abacab - 4
Genesis - 4 (only because of Home by the Sea)
Invisible Touch - 3
We Can't Dance - 3
Calling all Stations - 1
They're all great though.
there is no such thing as 0 star rating.
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: July 01 2020 at 07:04
1 star then
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 01 2020 at 07:06
FatherChristmas wrote:
1 star then
may I ask how are all the albums great when two of them have 1 star and 4 others 3 stars?
It does not make sense to me.
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 00:00
From Genesis to Revelation - 1 Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 3 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 2 Duke - 5 Abacab - 3 Genesis - 4 Invisible Touch - 1 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 2
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 00:03
iluvmarillion wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 1 Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 3 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 2 Duke - 5 Abacab - 3 Genesis - 4 Invisible Touch - 1 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 2
The 'neo prog years' but why only 2 for ATTWT?
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 00:04
Sean Trane wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 3
Trespass - 4 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 4
Live - 4
Selling England by the Pound - 4.5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 4 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 4
Am I allowed to give Invisible Touch 0.5? Then that's my score as well.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 00:04
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
1 star then
may I ask how are all the albums great when two of them have 1 star and 4 others 3 stars?
It does not make sense to me.
I was wondering the same thing too.
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 00:06
richardh wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 1 Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 3 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 2 Duke - 5 Abacab - 3 Genesis - 4 Invisible Touch - 1 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 2
The 'neo prog years' but why only 2 for ATTWT?
Because Phil Collins, the guy responsible for everything bad about Genesis and a whole lot of other things, didn't turn up.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 00:08
iluvmarillion wrote:
richardh wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 1 Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 3 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 2 Duke - 5 Abacab - 3 Genesis - 4 Invisible Touch - 1 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 2
The 'neo prog years' but why only 2 for ATTWT?
Because Phil Collins, the guy responsible for everything bad about Genesis and a whole lot of other things, didn't turn up.
that doesn't make sense. If he 'didn't turn up' wouldn't that be a good thing?
Posted By: thief
Date Posted: July 06 2020 at 00:38
Trespass - 4
Nursery Cryme - 5
Foxtrot - 5
Selling England by the Pound - 5
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 4
A Trick of the Tail - 4
Wind & Wuthering - 4
...And Then There Were Three - 3
Duke - 3
all others between 1 and 3. Didn't bother to try Calling All Stations or We Can't Dance during last 10+ years, I didn't like them at all.
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 10 2020 at 00:30
richardh wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
richardh wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 1 Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 3 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 2 Duke - 5 Abacab - 3 Genesis - 4 Invisible Touch - 1 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 2
The 'neo prog years' but why only 2 for ATTWT?
Because Phil Collins, the guy responsible for everything bad about Genesis and a whole lot of other things, didn't turn up.
that doesn't make sense. If he 'didn't turn up' wouldn't that be a good thing?
Since I'm only one of the few here who likes him as a singer/composer, not turning up, apart from sending his drum and voice parts from Canada, is the reason I only awarded ATTWT 2 stars.
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: July 12 2020 at 22:22
Hereīs mine that I have given in PA many years ago:
From Genesis to Revelation 3
Trespass 4
Nursery Cryme 5
Foxtrot 5
Live 5
Selling England by the Pound 5
the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 5
a Trick Of the Tail 4
Wind & Wuthering 4
Seconds Out 4
...And Then There Were Three 4
Duke 4
Abacab 4
Three Sides Live 4
Genesis 3
Invisible Touch 2
We Canīt Dance 3
Calling All Stations 1
My opinions havenīt changed much, maybe I would give 4 today also to first album when starting like it more recent years.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 12 2020 at 23:32
^^ Your 1-star rating for Calling All Stations makes my 3-star rating look very generous by comparison.
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 01:16
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^^ Your 1-star rating for Calling All Stations makes my 3-star rating look very generous by comparison.
I donīt think it as Genesis album at all. Hard to think any album Genesis album where is not Gabriel or Collins singing (I havenīt heard anybody has voice like they have). It could have been ok album under name Banks-Rutherford-Wilson. But really not great musically even that name.
Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 07:09
FGTR 1 TP 4 NC 5 FXT 5 SEBTP 5 LLDOB 5 TOTT 5 WAW 5 ATTW3 2 ( I have really cooled on this album over the years, loved it when I bought in on release day but now rarely play it). DK 4 ABCB 2 GEN 3 IT 3 WCD 3 ( love home by the sea). CAS 1
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 07:17
Mortte wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^^ Your 1-star rating for Calling All Stations makes my 3-star rating look very generous by comparison.
I donīt think it as Genesis album at all. Hard to think any album Genesis album where is not Gabriel or Collins singing (I havenīt heard anybody has voice like they have). It could have been ok album under name Banks-Rutherford-Wilson. But really not great musically even that name.
Calling All Stations doesn't sound anything like a Genesis album to me either, but judged on its own merits, it's not a bad album, in my opinion.
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 07:53
Earl of Mar wrote:
WCD 3 ( love home by the sea).
Wrong album...
Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 10:50
Yes I'm going mad. As a result WCD down to a 2.
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 11:00
Genesis.....will there be anything close to what they did, maybe in 100 years.
3 From Genesis to Revelation (1969)
3.5 Trespass (1970)
4.5 Nursery Cryme (1971)
5 Foxtrot (1972)
4 Genesis Live (1973)
5 Selling England by the Pound (1973)
4.5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1974)
5 A Trick of the Tail (1976)
4 Wind & Wuthering (1976)
5 Seconds Out (1977)
3.5 And Then There Were Three (1978)
4 Duke (1980)
3 Abacab (1981)
4 Three Sides Live (1982)
3.5 Genesis (1983)
3 Invisible Touch (1986)
3 We Can't Dance (1991)
2.5 The Way We Walk (1992)
3 Calling All Stations (1997)
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 11:09
Sean Trane wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 3
Trespass - 4 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 4
Live - 4
Selling England by the Pound - 4.5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 4 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 4
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 12:53
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Mortte wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^^ Your 1-star rating for Calling All Stations makes my 3-star rating look very generous by comparison.
I donīt think it as Genesis album at all. Hard to think any album Genesis album where is not Gabriel or Collins singing (I havenīt heard anybody has voice like they have). It could have been ok album under name Banks-Rutherford-Wilson. But really not great musically even that name.
Calling All Stations doesn't sound anything like a Genesis album to me either, but judged on its own merits, it's not a bad album, in my opinion.
Well, not the worst album of the world, but I didnīt find from it anything I wanted to listen it again. Maybe I could have rated it 2 as Banks-Rutherford-Wilson -album, but as Genesis album it is 1. I think we all have some expectations from our favorite artists albums and if they donīt fulfill at all...To me itīs just hard to listen any Genesis album thinking itīs not Genesis album.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 13 2020 at 13:51
I think you're right. I was probably being generous in giving Calling All Stations a 3-star rating, especially considering I can't recall one single song off the album.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 14 2020 at 15:59
iluvmarillion wrote:
richardh wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
richardh wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
From Genesis to Revelation - 1 Trespass - 5 Nursery Cryme - 4 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 3 A Trick of the Tail - 5 Wind & Wuthering - 5 And then there were Three - 2 Duke - 5 Abacab - 3 Genesis - 4 Invisible Touch - 1 We Can't Dance - 3 Calling all Stations - 2
The 'neo prog years' but why only 2 for ATTWT?
Because Phil Collins, the guy responsible for everything bad about Genesis and a whole lot of other things, didn't turn up.
that doesn't make sense. If he 'didn't turn up' wouldn't that be a good thing?
Since I'm only one of the few here who likes him as a singer/composer, not turning up, apart from sending his drum and voice parts from Canada, is the reason I only awarded ATTWT 2 stars.
There are a number of tracks with great drumming and the vocals are strong. He could have phoned his performance in from Jupiter for all I care
It's W&W where Collins drumming fall short a bit short for me.
(IMO)
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 08:15
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
IN THE BEGINNING there were five members of Charterhouse School who ONE DAY decided to form a band. That band was GENESIS. They were LOOKING FOR SOMEONE to promote and produce their first album when a WINDOW of opportunity came along in the shape of Jonathan King, a DUKE of record producers working BEHIND THE LINES at the time. The album "FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION" entered a LAND OF CONFUSION and MISUNDERSTANDING though when many record stores placed the album in their religious music sections due to the religious-sounding title. The album and first single "SILENT SUN" both flopped, and barely caused any RIPPLES in the music press either, despite Jonathan King CALLING ALL STATIONS to try and promote the album and single on the radio. GENESIS' second single "A WINTER'S TALE" was also met with about as much indifference as A FLY ON A WINDSHIELD by radio stations and barely NO REPLY AT ALL from the music press. Their record company Decca became ENTANGLED in a dispute when it was discovered there was another band in America called GENESIS, but by A TRICK OF THE TAIL, the band managed to keep their name ANYWAY by changing their name to "Revelation" in the United States.
The music business has always been as fickle as a HARLEQUIN, where THE DIVIDING LINE between success and failure depends on a combination of good luck and hard work. Every new band is sailing through UNCERTAIN WEATHER where they can easily be dragged down by the UNDERTOW and SHIPWRECKED by having THE KNIFE stuck into them by their record company or by the music press. THAT'S ALL it takes to finish a band's career. There's NEVER A TIME when it's been easy to make it in the tough music business, but LIKE IT OR NOT, that's just the WAY OF THE WORLD. No astrological WATCHER OF THE SKIES can predict who's going to make it in today's cynical music industry, where the chances of success are about as hard as climbing a WHITE MOUNTAIN of snow before the FADING LIGHTS of DUSK close in.
AFTER THE ORDEAL of seeing the commercial failure of their first album, GENESIS were IN LIMBO and left out IN THE WILDERNESS during a short period of STAGNATION when the band members returned to their studies at Charterhouse. They weren't DOWN AND OUT or TAKING IT ALL TOO HARD though, because making great music was far more than JUST A JOB TO DO for the five talented band members. Contrary to being IN HIDING, GENESIS were just COUNTING OUT TIME in THE WAITING ROOM of THE CINEMA SHOW of life before returning to the recording studio. The band members were confident of THE MUSICAL BOX of talent they had between them and their HORIZONS were positively bright with the general feeling that IT'S GONNA GET BETTER soon. GENESIS were working to a TIME TABLE and they didn't plan on LIVING FOREVER on borrowed time, or waiting around each day until SUPPER'S READY. They were IN TOO DEEP to consider THROWING IT ALL AWAY at this late stage. The band were more than ready to TURN IT ON AGAIN with an INVISIBLE TOUCH of magic with the release of their next album, "TRESPASS". It would be several albums later though before GENESIS were basking in the AFTERGLOW of a successful album release, followed by the DOMINO effect of success breeding further success in the proverbial AISLE OF PLENTY.
All song titles in HIGHLIGHTS by Genesis
How many PA stars would you assign to each Genesis album listed below?
These are my album ratings in chronological order....
From Genesis to Revelation (1969)
Trespass (1970)
Nursery Cryme (1971)
Foxtrot (1972)
Genesis Live (1973)
Selling England by the Pound (1973)
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1974)
A Trick of the Tail (1976)
Wind & Wuthering (1976)
Seconds Out (1977)
And Then There Were Three (1978)
Duke (1980)
Abacab (1981)
Three Sides Live (1982)
Genesis (1983)
Invisible Touch (1986)
We Can't Dance (1991)
The Way We Walk (1992)
Calling All Stations (1997)
You should do one on Rush.
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 10:00
FatherChristmas wrote:
You should do one on Rush.
I think all of the Rush album threads have already been done, although not by me because I'm not a big fan of Rush. Maybe you'd like to do a Rush poll, although there's no rush.
Posted By: bender99
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 00:29
Only ranking what I own or have heard:
Trespass - 4 Nursery Cryme - 5 Foxtrot - 5 Selling England by the Pound - 5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 5 A Trick of the Tail - 4 Wind & Wuthering - 5 Seconds Out - 3 And then there were Three - 3 Duke - 3 Abacab - 3 Genesis - 2 Invisible Touch - 2 We Can't Dance - 1 Calling all Stations - 1
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 00:35
^ I think I may have overrated Calling All Stations by giving it three stars. There isn't one memorable song on the album.
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 05:35
It's not that bad... but then I am a massive Genesis fan...
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten
Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 04:20
Here are my Genesis studio album ratings:
From Genesis to Revelation - 2
Trespass - 4
Nursery Cryme - 5
Foxtrot - 5
Selling England By the Pound - 5
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - 4
A Trick of the Tail - 4
Wind & Wuthering - 4
...And Then There Were Three... - 4
Duke - 4
Abacab - 2
Genesis - 3
Invisible Touch - 2
We Can't Dance - 2
Calling All Stations - 1
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 04:52
^ Only two stars for Genesis' debut? From Genesis to Revelation is at least a four star album for me and at one time it was my favourite Genesis album.
Calling All Stations has gone up a lot in my estimation too, ever since I bought the album (for Ģ1). I much prefer Calling All Stations over any of Genesis 1980's albums, including Duke.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 05:19
Most favourite today - Nursery Cryme
A bit less favourite - SEbtP, Foxtrot, Trespass
Quite okay - The Lamb
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 05:31
Revelation : 2 Trespass : 5 Nursery cryme : 5 Foxtrot : 5 Live : 4 Selling England : 5 I know what I like/Twilight Alehouse (7 inches) : 5 ( what a b-side folks !) The Lamb : 4.5 Trick : 5 W and W : 4.5 Spot the Pigeon EP : average of 2 [ 5 (for Inside and out only, what a song !), one for each other songs) Duke : 3 ATTW3 : 2.5 Three Sides live : 3 for the UK version ( it is a 4 live sides DLP :-)) , 2,5 for the European one and the rest .... is just history
Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 06:45
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^ Only two stars for Genesis' debut? From Genesis to Revelation is at least a four star album for me and at one time it was my favourite Genesis album.
Calling All Stations has gone up a lot in my estimation too, ever since I bought the album (for Ģ1). I much prefer Calling All Stations over any of Genesis 1980's albums, including Duke.
I understand why both of those albums are highly regarded among certain fans, but for me, it's not top-shelf Genesis. I do really like "In the Wilderness," but that's about it. In terms of Calling All Stations, the only songs I can tolerate are the proggy ones: "The Dividing Line" and "One Man's Fool." Maybe I will grow to like both of those albums as time progresses.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 07:41
^ Shipwrecked is my favourite track from Calling All Stations, where the song title is maybe an ironic reference to Genesis' fortunes at the time.
They should have released Calling All Stations as a Mike & the Mechanics album, bearing in mind it's a Genesis album in name only.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 08:34
Magog2112 wrote:
In terms of Calling All Stations, the only songs I can tolerate are the proggy ones: "The Dividing Line" and "One Man's Fool." Maybe I will grow to like both of those albums as time progresses.
There Must Be Some Other Way is the best song on the album IMO. Has a nice keyboard solo as well.
Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 08:42
Cristi wrote:
Magog2112 wrote:
In terms of Calling All Stations, the only songs I can tolerate are the proggy ones: "The Dividing Line" and "One Man's Fool." Maybe I will grow to like both of those albums as time progresses.
There Must Be Some Other Way is the best song on the album IMO. Has a nice keyboard solo as well.
That song contains an excellent vocal performance from Ray Wilson. One of his best, in my opinion.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 08:44
Magog2112 wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Magog2112 wrote:
In terms of Calling All Stations, the only songs I can tolerate are the proggy ones: "The Dividing Line" and "One Man's Fool." Maybe I will grow to like both of those albums as time progresses.
There Must Be Some Other Way is the best song on the album IMO. Has a nice keyboard solo as well.
That song contains an excellent vocal performance from Ray Wilson. One of his best, in my opinion.
Definitely, I always liked him, in Stiltskin and solo.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 05 2023 at 08:56
From Genesis to Revelation2.72
Trespass4.09
Nursery Cryme4.71
Foxtrot4.60
Selling England by the Pound4.66
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway3.89
A Trick of the Tail4.33
Wind & Wuthering4.47
And Then There Were Three4.00
Duke4.12
Abacab3.93
Genesis3.39
Invisible Touch3.10
We Can't Dance3.13
Calling All Stations2.91
Full studio discography3.84
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