Is it legal/kosher to have multiple accounts?
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Topic: Is it legal/kosher to have multiple accounts?
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Subject: Is it legal/kosher to have multiple accounts?
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 12:27
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Hey, I was just looking at the ratings breakdown of THE PSYCHEDELIC ENSEMBLE's Mother's Rhymes when I happened to notice three ratings from the same person using three different accounts: one Alain Succo from Lyon, France. Is this legal (i.e. in line with PA rules and guidelines?) In order to perhaps save you some time, I'll try uploading the two screen shots I took of all three of his accounts ratings lists at once:   ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 12:32
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Also, I noticed that Alain's last visits are listed as "8/22/2015", "2/20/2015", and "9/4/2017" and yet Mother's Rhymes, which Alain rated three stars on all three of his accounts, was a 2019 release. How does that work? Just seeking clarity. Thanks. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 12:32
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Ummmm...let me think about it. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Will sort it out. Thanks Drew.
...and some ratings on 2020 releases like Pattern Seeking Animals. Interesting. I've noticed some peculiar time stamp issues with other users as well. Can't say I have an easy answer to that.
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BrufordFreak wrote:Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 13:03
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What is really bizarre about him is he gives different ratings to the same album. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 13:05
Well, I think I have an easy answer: the date shown is for the last visit on the forum, not on the main site or for album ratings. I agree this is confusing, but it's the answer anyway...  But now, next question: why does this Alain Succa use 3 accounts? His ratings seems legit and "varied" I would say...
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 13:19
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^Having more than one account is strictly forbidden. Particularly when they are used to give ratings. Varied or not. Accounts suspended and ratings removed. The date question: it has always been my understanding that the forum date and site date are independent. Does not appear to be the case. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 13:30
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^ That's why I'm wondering why... What's his motive? OK, maybe we don't want to know... and maybe I watch too much detective TV shows.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 13:34
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^I thought it might be to deflect any suspicion of a role in 9/11. But my sleuthing determined he is from France, so its probably more to do with the Lindbergh baby. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 13:59
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I'm gonna get you succa! ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 14:08
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pfff.. amateurs... they could learn a lesson or two from the master of multiple accounts... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 14:10
Svetonio? ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 14:13
yeah.. .. him.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 14:22
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Wallace ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 14:24
There was also that "pwog" guy who used to talk about bins at British resellers. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 14:30
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and there is that banned Canadian hard core right winger that pops up every once in awhile and always blows his cover when he talks politics in the thread. He's had so many ID's he might just rival our favorite Milosevic apologist for shear number of forum ID's he's had. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 14:33
Wallace, the "pwog" dude. He and Svetonio, what a pair of d-bags. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 14:36
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oh yeah.. Wallace really was a piece of sh*t.. Svetty was more comical.. more a toy for us to play with.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 02:37
There is a difference: Wallace / Knobby / Wallace_the_Lad / jacksiedanny / Lafayette Assburn / jamy / [some more?] was a serial multiple account user, who signed up again some time after his last suspension, while Svet / Komandant Shamal / ??? had parallel accounts. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 18:31
| I think they were double clicking on that Led Zeppelin poll ... for Physical Graffiti. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 20:08
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^that would be a neat trick since the last time any of those profiles had visited the forum was 2017. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 06:15
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 07:15
Prog will do that to you.... ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 09:00
See? They're getting craftier! |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 19 2020 at 10:11
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I think there's an arrangement where the same IP for two different members (to facilitate the 'bald angels' entity) is countenanced by PA. Not really sure anyone could make a strong argument for endorsing what is clearly a double standard.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 19:12
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I hate to be an alarmist, but there may be another "abuse" brewing as it seems "more than a coincidence" that musician Zoltan Vamos--from the Canadian Crossover band BENJAMIN'S KITE--who has had a legitimate account here since 2019--may have appeared today (as Canadian "Zoltan") to promote his band's own album, Ingenious Cacophanies as reviewer "TheDesolationRose"--a reviewer that just happened to join today, October 8, and post two reviews only--of two BENJAMIN'S KITE albums. I don't begrudge anyone trying to promote their own albums, but to open multiple accounts to do so seems a bit . . . deceptive and devious. Again, I feel for the guy--and he got me to return to an album that I'd normally have passed over--but now I see that ZoltanXVamos has also posted a five star rating for their album. (I almost expect a future review to be added to said rating.) The question is: Is the Canadian named "Zoltan" who posted full reviews of Zoltan Vamos' band BENJAMIN'S KITE today the same ZoltanXVamos who later in the same day, from another, older account, posted a rating for the same albums (and may soon post a review)? Something to watch (if multiple accounts are even something you discourage here on PA. I honestly don't know. It just seems . . . unethical.) ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 08 2020 at 19:38
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I remembered Zoltan's name for issues surrounding his reviews before. It's not considered good to have two concurrent accounts (and can lead to banning depending on the situation, say with multiple personae at the forum) and certainly one shouldn't be doing both a rating without review and a review of an album, ;et alone one's own. And both accounts have been active today within a short time of each other. It's the same person, and had that person decided to do a review, that could have been edited into his ratings (otherwise should have contacted us bout changing the ratings to reviews). Will delete the reviews and remove the new account. I will save them here in this thread if he comes looking for them. Reviews by TheDesolationRose (Zoltan): Ingenious Cacophonies Benjamin's Kite Review by TheDesolationRose 5 stars "For a new prog band that originated in Canada, with a fairly moderate Symphonic sound, and loud keyboards, this album is very well done, well recorded and overall a journey. What this new band was able to do with a complex arrangement, various different subgenres in prog, this album did what the last one they put out couldn't. This album has a stronger consistency than AE (Antediluvian Euphonies) and just overall a better recording sound. For me, AE was a bit lacking in production, this album has a much cleaner and defined sound, with smooth epics, war lyrics, and strong keyboard solos. Benjamin's Kite is a band with integrity, paying homage to their favorite bands, for example sections in Sector 85 remind me a lot of TOTT Genesis and TFTO Yes. Everything is well played, the vocals are fantastic, and this album is the definition of Prog... Crossover? Perhaps. Well done BK." Antediluvian Euphonies Benjamin's Kite Crossover Prog Review by TheDesolationRose 4 stars "For a debut album, this was full of swings and misses, but also songs that stuck the landing. Biggest swing and a miss quality of this album was production for sure, some of the vocals sound very thin and over-processed. Overall, this album sounds more like a test album than something serious. Just a bit of tweaking in production (mainly the drums, they sound like robots), and this album would be better, maybe half a star more but exactly 4 stars is about what I would say about this album. The tracklist is really good, the songs are really good, and the album cover is ridiculously good. 4 stars at most, at the very very least 3.5 stars, but 4 is fitting. Better things were to come though." Perhaps the expectations were not known, but this goes against policy. So, the reviews are gone from the DB and Zoltan V Ramos' new account has been suspended. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 07:54
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Two Gorans from B(osnia) i(n) H(erzegovnia) with accounts ending in "88"--one of which was opened TODAY--and both with amorphous space-techno avatars--posted five star reviews of the new Wobbler album within minutes of each other! What are the chances of that happening? Perhaps the two Gorans should be brought in for questioning for their suspicious behaviour.... ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 08:03
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^Investigating Yup...there is actually 6 Gorans (that I could locate) with similar handles, email addresses and ratings. Good catch. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 08:18
LOL, you're right though
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 08:25
One of them has given 5 stars to every Wobbler album. I know people are raving about the new Wobbler album but is it really one of the greatest prog albums of all time?
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 08:44
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Is it Kosher to still use the word Kosher? Political correctness and all that. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 16:30
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 08:29
Sorry! Didn't mean to offend! Let me get you a band-aid, kleenex, and a coke to help you deal with my insensitive indiscretion. (I know: they're not really related, just wanted to illustrate the way in which I use the "k" word.) Peace out! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 04:50
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 06:47
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10-4, Good Buddy! Let them truckers roll! (My preferred form of Orwellian speak.) ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 07:54
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Yes sir-ree. keep your wah wah pedal to the metal. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |