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Topic: Steven Wilson The Future Bites First Single
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Subject: Steven Wilson The Future Bites First Single
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 07:04
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Steven Wilson has reveled his 6th solo studio album will be titled the future bites. It appears to be an anti consumerism concept album notably targeted at brands like supreme that charge outrageous prices for anything with their logo slapped on it. Today March 12th 2020, he’s released the first single “Personal Shopper.” It’s clear this album is likely going to be very electronic and pop/disco. This song is just under 10 minutes and is a good chunk of the albums 40 minute runtime. I didn’t like to the bone, but I actually quite like this song. Sure, it isn’t prog, but it’s well produced and catchy. I like how it has that pop groove while still feeling quite dark. It def sounds like Steven Wilson still. You can listen on all streaming platforms and I assume YouTube. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 07:39
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Just listened to it. Yuck yuck yuck! Don't like the techno dance beat (electronic drums?). When he sings falsetto it is cringeworthy. The song is way too long, 9:49. The spoken word sections are weird. The non-techno parts sound exactly like his older material. No doubt he is trying to be different, but this is not prog, not good, and not for me. |
Posted By: portugal
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 07:44
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Electronic beats! Its not bad! But I would prefer more creative drums, combined with these beats. In this case, we have Craig Blundell’s flat and monotonous drumming, imho ------------- prog rules |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 08:06
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Fun fact, Elton’s John is the voice on the spoken word sections ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 08:09
 I don't dislike it, if it makes sense...
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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 10:21
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Listening to it right now and parts of the music, unlike the vocals, remind me of the Up The Downstair / Sky Moves Sideways / Signify years of PT. Others parts sound nothing like PT's music from that era. Somewhat remarkably (I guess) I like it. ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: Mudpuppy64
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 11:38
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I Liked it |
Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 11:41
| I liked it as well. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 13:34
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Not surprising to see a majority who like it. SW could record an album of farts and his fans would hail it a masterpiece. Good for him. It has a one star rating on PA. How can you rate before something is released? |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 14:01
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It's not too bad, musically and creatively I think its rather good. I too am not a fan of his Prince wannabe falsetto vocals, very much a disco beat to it, EDM. Harken back to a Giorgio Morodor style of writing and production. The topic of the song is forgettable as is the spoken word stuff. I just pre-ordered the album, signed vinyl version from Burning Shed due out in June. -------------   
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Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 14:38
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My reaction after listening once: New Order did this decades ago and did it better. ------------- "I have seen the broken sky turn blue." http://gnosis2000.net/ratertodd.shtml" rel="nofollow - My Gnosis Ratings |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 16:51
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Looks like another pass for me. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 18:31
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If this is considered "futuristic", then Steven Wilson nearly had the title right with "Future Bites". Did he consider a better title as "Future Blows"? ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 03:09
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I enjoyed it, it a mix of old PT + TTB + Jamiroquai. It's a shame that the other tracks are 4 minutes long at maximum and the album clocks at 40 minutes (could've been 45 or 50, IMO perfect length) |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 04:35
what's TTB short for?
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Deadwing wrote:Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 04:41
To The Bone (last Steven Wilson album)
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 04:47
I thought it's a band or something
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 05:01
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Sounds like a mix of early PT (my favourite era) and industrial music from 10-20 years ago. I don't dislike it. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 09:48
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steven-wilson-announces-new-album-the-future-bites-first-single-personal-shopper-now-available/" rel="nofollow - THE FUTURE BITES details available here The first single dropped yesterday, named after one of SW's favourite movies: Whatcha think? Loving it so far, but 5 mins would've been enough (the song doesn't really go anywhere past this mark, just repeats itself). The rest of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Future_Bites" rel="nofollow - tracklist has shorter cuts though |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 10:18
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couldn't find the thread in discussion forums - who would've thought it's in PRESS RELEASES of all places sorry for double posting
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 10:21
They should be removed then. As far as I can tell only the one track has been released.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 15:29
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Hi, It's on the tube and it looks like SW posted it himself. I maybe projecting some, but I hear older PT and then some Roger in here (Sheep), but it might be just the girls in the background ... I find it interesting, and "good", but not sure this is "great", but it is very listenable and I couldn't get out of it after the 3rd listen!!!! (... that's rare for me!!!) PS: Admins : Thx for moving message ... had not seen this thread yet
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 15:35
| Well it might not have been Steven Wilson himself who put it up but his publicist or promoter anyway. I'm not sure SW has enough extra time to bother with youtube(I could be wrong though). It sounds like he's moving in a more contemporary direction with some mild techno and ambient influences so good for him. |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 18:40
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Love most of Steven Wilson's work - but unless it fits well into the whole album concept, I have to say it's 'Emperor's New Clothes' time. If I wanted Scissor Sisters/Heaven 17/Jimmy Somerville/New Order....I wouldn't be on a prog forum. Progressive for SW for sure, but this is retro electronica. I'll wait till he re-discovers Skiffle. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 19:39
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Never been one of those who worship every crumb that falls from SW's plate....However, when his stuff is good, I revel in it. This is not. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 08:28
Hi, AND get Dave Cousins to master the material!   ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:53
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I like the new single. Sounds like Nine Inch Nails only with more vocals and a good dose of psychedelic/space rock  An improvement over his latest outings (the lacklustre Hand Cannot Erase and onwards). Look forward to hearing the full album.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 11:03
I think HCE is one of the best prog albums ever, however to the bone is a real stinker. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 11:24
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HCE is a decent, but vastly overrated album. This track is not too bad, I won't call it The Future Sucks,, but it refers to early 80's stuff in a forcing way. ------------- 
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 13:25
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I'm rather underwhelmed... it's good if I compare it to any random music, but not good enough to make me want to buy the album. The drums are terrible and actually not futuristic but retro. |
Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 13:52
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First impression say skip it. ------------- Same person as this profile: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22524" rel="nofollow - Tamijo |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 13:58
| It's... I don't really know what to think about it. Indeed it's 10 min long, but I don't think it can be considered prog, really. As for electronic sounding music, I very much prefer "Perfect Life". |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 03:18
| Oh I don't know . I like some electronica though. It reminds me a bit of Jean Michel Jarre's recent albums and isn't a million miles away from what Jem Godfrey does with Frost* (but Frost* is way more interesting) . Godfrey came from a pop background (producer of Atomic Kitten at one time) so its looks like Wilson is going the opposite route away from prog and with the same drummer! |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 07:11
Hi, I was thinking ... that the drums are "conventional" ... and something that a much better tuned player would not do! But SW's probably played the drums enough to take the song further into a bigger studio, and I think that what stuck was what he already had! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 08:51
| I don't dislike it, but don't love it either. However, I think it's worth checking it out, unlike his previous album. |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 15:29
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As was said above, this is New Order (with a dot of The Cure, Human League, Bronski Beat etc...) All of that he's done wit No-Man already. There are some sonic references to his 90s sound, and as usual a self-quote with the - i think Sky Moves Sideways - acoustic guitar chord during the spoken word. Ninet Tayeb totally saves this song when she joins for the chorus and makes us forget Wilson's annoying falsetto for a couple of bars. Seriously, what's his problem with his voice, it was fine up until In Absentia and then he decided he should try and be a rock, prog and since the last two albums a pop singer? None conviced me Ok. It's catchy, sounds cool, it's already better then the entire snoozefest that was To The Bone. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 15:52
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Lets be honest, Steven Wilson fans don't want to hear electronic disco pop. I can't see this album being too well received. Though I thought the track was decent, this track is 1/4th of the album and its looking kind of grim. Is SW on a self destructive path? Does SW also realize his music is not a necessity and this concept has been done plenty?
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 19:18
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Giorgio Moroder having drunk sex with Alan Parsons in the early 80s is not futuristic. And neither is the swill Wilson is pedaling. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 19:26
Hi, I'm not convinced that SW is that great or that good ... there are a lot of nice things and all that, but in the end, I think he spends too much time listening to everything else to be able to find his own touch inside to make his own music even better, and special ... and now after all these years, I think he's mostly re-hashing the old stuff with today's stuff. His lyrics, as usual, always pointed, have not shown that he has over come his anger to really be a serious writer and poet ... and all you and I can say about it ... he's just a song writer ... nothing else! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 01:30
I think the weird thing is that SW has NEVER been cutting edge. When I first heard Porcupine Tree in the late 90's I just was completely underwhelmed by his both his music and snooty attitude. Now all these years later I am getting a definite feeling of Deja Vu. HOWEVER for a while he was definitely in the 'essential' category , although perhaps just the 10 years 2004-2015 (basically In Absentia to Raven with maybe one 'mistep' with the Incident ) , IMO anyway. I probably won't bother with this latest album. As you said , who really want's this?
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 10:10
I can agree with most of this, especially the cutting edge part as nothing in the prog world today is really cutting edge, say from that same time frame or even late 90's to now. PT to me is a marriage of many classic prog bands of the 70's, and he has done some of the best work at creating great music with this meld, I'm very glad it all exists. What the jury is still out on is his aggressive push of the other influences from the pop/disco/EDM genres....the prog world does not like that stuff but as we know SW is not a prog label fan, and I agree as there is little to no prog made anymore.....avant-garde and alternative are better labels today. I have pre-ordered the album because it is something different but like most I am not a huge fan of most of his recent output. -------------
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 11:24
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How does Wilson have the time to record an album? I thought he was remixing the entire Monkees discography. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 13:00
As you know in today's recording world, digital, software and email/cloud servers have made "making" an album too easy. -------------
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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 15:58
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It sounds like an old ABBA song. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 04:02
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Posted By: Dorsalia
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 05:57
By the way you guys talk I'm guessing you must have quite a bit of experience writing and recording music. You're clearly seasoned professionals. ------------- "Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls." |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 07:24
This is all rudimentary stuff that you can pick up from the internet.------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 11:12
Plus everything on the WWW is 100% true, or it would not allow it to be printed. -------------
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 18 2020 at 13:10
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Hi, Heard the song a couple more times, it has its addictive side, like some of the PT stuff and SW stuff, but I think I am coming to a conclusion that SW is not about "prog" of any kind ... it's all fancy pop music, and from the looks of the material listed in the rest of the album it is all short songs. I think that SW is probably too much into his ideas and politics, and what not, and is not clear on what he wants and one comment on the internet says something about people trying instruments for the next album to find music (something like that) and in the next special he talks about just buying things to try and satisfy his need! Just like the song, right? I do not find any of his songs, any better than some of the last stuff that he did with PT ... which he has said is over. And his solo work usually has one or two things that are really nice ... and the rest? ... I don't want to say forget'able but I can't even tell you anything about the lyrics, for example ... As one old friend of ours here said, cynically I thought, but I think he meant well ... it's all pop music! And SW is not about anything else! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 19 2020 at 08:24
maybe Steve needs to re-listen to this song.... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 20 2020 at 08:07
Hi, You have to say this in SW's style ... which is .... "I wanted a HEAVY Abba song!" ... and of course all it meant was that it sounded like a little metal crosses thrash somewhere in Mars, and LOUD, and then back to some "lyrics" ... really non-heavy thoughts, btw! IT'S STILL A REALLY GOOD SONG! Got give him credit for it!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Dorsalia
Date Posted: March 20 2020 at 11:19
Any links to all those albums you've made? You know, it being super easy and all  ------------- "Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls." |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 23 2020 at 08:26
Well shiver me timbers!  For the first time in quite a while I am genuinely looking forward to the new Steve Wilson album. Not that I overtly hate his most recent stuff, it’s actually pretty good, BUT I already own most of the PT catalogue plus a fair few of his solo albums...and yeah there comes a point where you simply gotta ask yourself whether you really do need more Wilson in the old collection. Then again I can’t remember the last time I was this excited about his music. Personally I think this ‘change of direction’ in sound is very welcome...sure we’ve heard the shift towards art-pop on his previous blue man group effort ( ), but on here it seems to have blossomed into this interesting electronic venture. I still hear a musician having fun with what he’s doing...and that is damn rare when you’ve been doing this for over 30 years.Kudos Steve  P.S. Nevermind the nay-sayers. You can of course just stroke them with the fur and continue to release ‘Raven revisited’ with mellotrons and the archetypical pork solo en masse...but how fun would that be...and who are you REALLY making music for in the end? I thought so  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: April 22 2020 at 06:36
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Breaking! According to SW on Instagram, the future bites has been delayed to January 2021. Mostly due to the fact he can’t shoot videos and there is an issue with production of the deluxe edition due to covid ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 22 2020 at 12:02
David, You continue to be my PA hero, great post about SWilson's new release....I like it, pre-ordered but seems the release date has been pushed now. Cheers man!  -------------
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 22 2020 at 12:52
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 22 2020 at 13:47
Hi, And I'm betting that he will be changing some things ... and end up with a completely different album ... I don't dislike this particular song, but the listing of the rest seemed strange ... all short cuts. Maybe he's trying to do something different, and not sure what to do with them yet. He might have that changed by January. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 22 2020 at 18:59
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I like it. But then I've liked everything he's done from The first PT to TTB. It might have something to due with him being close to my age. Kinda like a younger brother. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 23 2020 at 00:19
| The first four albums were all great for sure so I had this pre-ordered and was looking forward to it. So far this year I have a grand total of 2 new albums to listen to so it would have been welcome. BTW who dares say that prog should be 'fun'. Are you mad lol. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 24 2020 at 03:18
Thanks my friend You’re not too shabby either. I always love to read about your love for The Beatles Just kidding...and thank you for the Dolly pic. I needed that. Too bad about the delay...then again I have quite a few albums coming my way plus a whole slew of stuff I am looking forward to for 2020. Chicano Batman’s newest is definitely one of those  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 24 2020 at 10:13
The Beatles are God's gift to the entire universe, they created the musical note, just think without that we would not have ring tones!! Well my concert schedule for 2020 is also dwindling to nothing....... Bro u will forever be known as the 'Can(s)-man'........
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