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Topic: Genesis Reunion 2020
Posted By: Catcher10
Subject: Genesis Reunion 2020
Date Posted: March 03 2020 at 17:38
I have been following this rumor for the past 2 months or so, it seems it may be true as an announcement is due out tomorrow from the BBC Radio 2 morning show. Read more about it here, and of course no Peter Gabriel or Steve Hackett to join the reunion, regardless I'm in if they come to the US.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 01:57
I should probably make the effort, but I'll see how much the tickets are. The last time they played in the UK (2007) the tickets were far too expensive to justify going to watch them play mostly post Duke material.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 02:15
I will almost certainly be giving this a miss.
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 04:54
Just another tour, possibly followed by another live CD/DVD? Meh...
But if they record a new studio album? Now that would be interesting! Of course, we cannot expect a return to Selling England by the Pound, but perhaps a return to the sound and approach of And Then There Were Three and Duke? Perhaps with a guest appearance by Hackett?
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 05:54
It’s confirmed now, too bad there’s no chance of me going across the pond to see them
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 06:56
It looks like it's only in the UK so far and it's being called "The Last Domino?" tour. Phil's son Nic is on the drums. No mention of Chester Thompson, so the dual drums will be absent. I certainly won't be flying to the UK to see this, but if videos that show up on YouTube are good, I might consider a DVD if they release one.
Otherwise, I agree that a studio album would have been more interesting.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 07:05
They got together for a basketball game or something like that.
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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 07:33
I think I'd rather see Steve Hackett performing Seconds Out.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 07:45
it's a testament to how close they are as friends which is so unusual with these old super bands who more than likely can't stand to be in the same room together (Yes). Having said that, if you have seen any of the Phil Collins shows this past year--its disturbing to see him and the shape he's in. And its one thing to be an old man in ill health and sing Against all odds but how you going to do the end of Musical Box or even Mama?
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 08:00
I’d love to see this...but am certainly not crossing an ocean to go. Personally I’m fairly positive about Collins Jr. on drums. Anybody who has heard him on the Sound Of Contact debut will know that the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree. He genuinely sounds like his father in that tight n sloppy way that one usually has to trawl through old 60s and 70s albums to hear. I imagine he will fit in Genesis perfectly. I hope daddy-o gets his mojo back. The recent pictures I’ve seen of him do not look good...sorta like Captain Picard’s long lost brother..with a massive hangover.
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Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 09:28
No thanks, I'll continue to see Hackett 2-3 times per year as I've been doing for the past decade.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 09:40
Blacksword wrote:
I should probably make the effort, but I'll see how much the tickets are. The last time they played in the UK (2007) the tickets were far too expensive to justify going to watch them play mostly post Duke material. |
Well I feel ya, but if this truly is The Last Domino, I would go. Now I very much doubt I'm gonna jump on a plane and cross the pond. Based on these UK dates, I suspect a US tour would kinda be the same so I might have to fly to say LA to see them.
A tour makes total sense from a money point, a new album would be great for sure, but new albums don't make a lot of money where they can cash in huge on a blockbuster tour.
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Posted By: Klobb
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 10:28
Phil's first Not Dead Yet tour was UK only at first, then he went elsewhere after it was successful. I'd expect the same to happen here. Genesis are the only band I'd ever consider crossing the pond to see, so if we're nearing the end of the tour and there's no indication of them coming stateside, then I might crack and break the bank to travel.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 10:36
I am sort of torn about this.
I absolutely love Genesis, and those who know me, and have read my reviews, will know that I found a huge amount to enjoy in the three man band.
I have seen them live on a few occasions, including the Milton Keynes gig with Gabriel.
I would really like to see Hackett do his stuff live, but I don’t. The reason? Simply because I really do not like Nad Sylvan’s vocals. Genesis were a quintessential English band, and listening to Sylvan in his Swedish voice simply grates with me, I am afraid.
Also, I want to know what format the three man tour will take. I thought the 2007 tour was marvellous, a huge celebration of a fantastic band, with Phil on top form. Looking at him now, though, by God he looks old, and sounds it too. I absolutely do not want to see an acoustic effort. Part of the thrill of old was the dual drumming with Chester, and we won’t have that now. Can Phil really do a full rock gig?
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 11:09
Is anybody really interested in hearing Invisible Touch by a bunch of old men? LOL
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 11:23
lazland wrote:
I am sort of torn about this.
I absolutely love Genesis, and those who know me, and have read my reviews, will know that I found a huge amount to enjoy in the three man band.
I have seen them live on a few occasions, including the Milton Keynes gig with Gabriel.
I would really like to see Hackett do his stuff live, but I don’t. The reason? Simply because I really do not like Nad Sylvan’s vocals. Genesis were a quintessential English band, and listening to Sylvan in his Swedish voice simply grates with me, I am afraid.
Also, I want to know what format the three man tour will take. I thought the 2007 tour was marvellous, a huge celebration of a fantastic band, with Phil on top form. Looking at him now, though, by God he looks old, and sounds it too. I absolutely do not want to see an acoustic effort. Part of the thrill of old was the dual drumming with Chester, and we won’t have that now. Can Phil really do a full rock gig? |
Lazy we are so in sync with Hackett, he comes to Seattle every tour and I really want to go everytime but yes the Nad vocals are polarizing to me also. I've tried to watch the youtube stuff but alas, can't get into it. Eventually I may go........
The Genesis lineup will include Phil's son Nic on drums and Daryl Stuermer......Can Phil do a full rock gig?? His solo tour recently he was sitting most of the time....Maybe Phil has been doing PT to help with his nerve damage.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 11:25
Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 12:30
AlanB wrote:
I think I'd rather see Steve Hackett performing Seconds Out. |
Totally agree with this. I live too far away from any place Genesis ever dreamed of visiting on tour, so it's impossible they would do it now, but I'd rather see Nad Sylvan's antics than poor Phil Collins pathetic attempt on hiding his deteriorated voice. And no Daryl Stuermer will ever compensate for not having Steve Hackett on a reunion, even if he played on Genesis for a longer time than Steve.
I've said it before: Steve Hackett does more justice to Genesis than Genesis itself
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 12:51
I don't think I would be much interested to see them. Without Gabriel and/or Hackett, will be mostly their pop material, that never did much for me.
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 16:55
Steve Hackett has been keeping the Genesis flame alight for years now..... That's the Genesis I love - but if the 80s pop of Phil, Tony and Mike do it for you, good luck to you. The tickets will sell out quick enough without needing me.
I don't have a problem with Nad Sylvan's vocals - they capture a Gabriel/Collins mixed vibe, but are sufficiently individual not to become a direct copy of the classic era. Steve's current touring band are one of the tightest outfits I've ever seen, and Craig Blundell on drums has been a revelation.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 18:35
AlanB wrote:
I think I'd rather see Steve Hackett performing Seconds Out. |
This . . .
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 04 2020 at 19:04
I do enjoy Blundell, seen him 2x with SWilson......although I will go to Genesis as I am sure not everything will be the trio era. But I'm in the minority, I think ALL Genesis is brilliant music.
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Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: March 05 2020 at 08:02
I actually enjoy Nad's renditions of early Genesis when he tours with Hackett. I don't find his 'Swedish-ness' to interfere at all with his interpretations of Gabriel. (I will, however, acknowledge that Nad does not quite nail the early Phil-era vocals as well as he nails the Gabriel vox.)
That said, bear in mind that Nad primarily only sings the Genesis stuff at Hackett's shows. Hackett mostly sings his solo material live -- many times Nad is not even onstage when the band is performing Hackett solo tunes. His touring band is absolutely fantastic. In addition to the regulars, Hackett also moves people in & out of his touring band based on availability but the quality of musicians is never compromised. As an example, a couple tours ago, Roine Stolt was his touring bassist....got to see 'Supper's Ready' in its entirety for the first time on that tour.
Fact is, I'd still go see Hackett at every opportunity even if he weren't doing any Genesis tunes at all. The quality of his solo work has only gotten better over the years, IMHO.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 05 2020 at 10:08
I attended a couple of (Hackett) Genesis Revisited concerts, own some live recordings too and I can positively say that Nad Sylvan is doing a tremedous job singing those early Genesis songs. To dislike his voice is one thing but saying that he is not a good fit and that he don't sound English enough for this material is nothing less than xenophobic garbage.
lazland wrote:
I would really like to see Hackett do his stuff live, but I don’t. The reason? Simply because I really do not like Nad Sylvan’s vocals. Genesis were a quintessential English band, and listening to Sylvan in his Swedish voice simply grates with me, I am afraid. | Unashamed bigotry indeed.
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 05 2020 at 13:51
Horses for courses I guess; I don't personally have a problem with his voice.. does the guy from 'the Watch' sound too Italian or the guy from 'The Musical Box' sound too Canadian??
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 05 2020 at 14:00
This is what I put on the other (less populated) thread on this subject
''I think i'd rather see Steve Hackett again. Or see 'The Musical Box'. Or stay at home and just play the lps. But there is a little bit of me that looked at the dates... Hmm, Birmingham is on a Saturday! We could do that! Will I regret it if I don't get a ticket?? But then I go 'No, I think im happy with memories and the albums.''
I last saw Genesis in 1982 on the ABACAB tour and whilst I enjoyed it, Phil Collins constant references to 'this is the last time we're playing this old sh*t' whenever they played a PG era track really put me off seeing them again.. particularly in light of the slightly fawning re-evaluation of 'the old sh*t' by the band later on when they realized that the constant trickle of royalties from those lps constituted a good part of their income as they got older.. and it has been Steve Hackett who has consistently flown the flag in regards playing that material live and doing it justice.. and of course 'The Musical Box' who have done their absolute best to re-create that music in its era.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 05 2020 at 15:55
Barbu wrote:
I attended a couple of (Hackett) Genesis Revisited concerts, own some live recordings too and I can positively say that Nad Sylvan is doing a tremedous job singing those early Genesis songs. To dislike his voice is one thing but saying that he is not a good fit and that he don't sound English enough for this material is nothing less than xenophobic garbage.
lazland wrote:
I would really like to see Hackett do his stuff live, but I don’t. The reason? Simply because I really do not like Nad Sylvan’s vocals. Genesis were a quintessential English band, and listening to Sylvan in his Swedish voice simply grates with me, I am afraid. | Unashamed bigotry indeed. |
Don’t be a prat. There is no reason whatsoever to accuse me of xenophobia for that post. You may apologise. If you do not, I will take it further.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 05 2020 at 16:13
lazland wrote:
Barbu wrote:
I attended a couple of (Hackett) Genesis Revisited concerts, own some live recordings too and I can positively say that Nad Sylvan is doing a tremedous job singing those early Genesis songs. To dislike his voice is one thing but saying that he is not a good fit and that he don't sound English enough for this material is nothing less than xenophobic garbage.
lazland wrote:
I would really like to see Hackett do his stuff live, but I don’t. The reason? Simply because I really do not like Nad Sylvan’s vocals. Genesis were a quintessential English band, and listening to Sylvan in his Swedish voice simply grates with me, I am afraid. | Unashamed bigotry indeed. |
Don’t be a prat. There is no reason whatsoever to accuse me of xenophobia for that post. You may apologise. If you do not, I will take it further. |
No way, man, you're the one who should apologise. Don't act like an offended virgin, this is exactly what you meant...now you can call your lawyer, I'm waiting fo you.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 05 2020 at 17:04
chopper wrote:
I will almost certainly be giving this a miss. |
Even if I was in the UK, this would be my position.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 05 2020 at 17:56
I'll probably pass also. I saw them in 2007 and while I enjoyed it I can't imagine them having a setlist for the upcoming tour that would be much different.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 00:44
Guldbamsen wrote:
I’d love to see this...but am certainly not crossing an ocean to go. Personally I’m fairly positive about Collins Jr. on drums. Anybody who has heard him on the Sound Of Contact debut will know that the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree. He genuinely sounds like his father in that tight n sloppy way that one usually has to trawl through old 60s and 70s albums to hear. I imagine he will fit in Genesis perfectly.
I hope daddy-o gets his mojo back. The recent pictures I’ve seen of him do not look good...sorta like Captain Picard’s long lost brother..with a massive hangover. |
It was Simon Collins played on Sound Of Contact. As a kid he also used to play a tiny drum set along off stage at Genesis gigs. Cute!
I presume Nic Collins is a different son?
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 00:49
I got my ticket yesterday using the priority order line. Very expensive though at £120 + £17 rip off extra 'service charges'. But at least we are facing the stage ( I cannot abide sitting on the side and having to twist my neck) and it's at my favourite venue on a Saturday night . Booked a hotel stay over with my best mate and well looking forward to it. Yeah I know they will play mostly post ATTTW material but they are legends of prog nevertheless. It should be fun and really I've got nothing better to do with my time and money anyway!
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 01:07
This response is aimed at the general forum, and not the keyboard warrior, Mr Barbu.
I have made a complaint in the Collab Zone about Barbu’s behaviour and accusations against me, which are frankly ridiculous and unacceptable. I am many things, but xenophobic and/or racist is not one of them. It is up to the administrators of the site how they deal with the complaint I have made.
However, after posting this, I will log out from the forum and will not participate in any further discussions here. Frankly, it is becoming like the majority of social media platforms, namely unpleasant and somewhat pointless in some people’s petty obsessions and use of such forums too make up for their personal and social inadequacies.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 07:51
Petty obsessions, personal and social inadequacies?
No need to go away, darling, but next time keep your xenophobic comments to yourself and all will be fine.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 08:01
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Is anybody really interested in hearing Invisible Touch by a bunch of old men? LOL
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^This....
I watched a you tube clip of Phil and son Nic doing some recent live tracks and it was ...well. not that interesting.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 08:23
Man With Hat wrote:
chopper wrote:
I will almost certainly be giving this a miss. |
Even if I was in the UK, this would be my position. |
I think if you prefer later Genesis then fork out for the reunion tour, if you prefer earlier Genesis then fork out a bit (a lot?) less to see Steve Hackett. I know which one I'd go for.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 08:24
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:
Horses for courses I guess; I don't personally have a problem with his voice.. does the guy from 'the Watch' sound too Italian or the guy from 'The Musical Box' sound too Canadian?? |
I can understand why people might not like his voice but I don't have a problem with it, I think it fits the music well and I don't think he particularly has a "Swedish" voice (unlike Roine Stolt for instance).
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 10:34
It is very difficult to get me to see a major concert, or even a minor one due to my extreme dislike for city traffic and parking, as well as the exorbitant price of tickets these days. Also, the big shows require planning months in advance and I do not like to think that far ahead for a show. I saw Hackett a few years ago in Seattle doing a Genesis Revisited tour and it was awesome seeing those tunes played live. A Genesis reunion tour catches my interest, and if they hit the states there is a good chance they would come to my corner of the country. Of course, there is an even better chance they would do an east coast tour with only one west coast appearance in L.A.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 11:12
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 11:43
chopper wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
chopper wrote:
I will almost certainly be giving this a miss. |
Even if I was in the UK, this would be my position. |
I think if you prefer later Genesis then fork out for the reunion tour, if you prefer earlier Genesis then fork out a bit (a lot?) less to see Steve Hackett. I know which one I'd go for. |
My other issue with Hackett's shows is his solo stuff for the most part bores me to tears.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 06 2020 at 12:40
I am most definitely not interested in this reunion
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 07 2020 at 00:58
^ Missing out on the chance to have a 'bop' to Invisible Touch . *shocker*
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 07 2020 at 01:10
richardh wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
I’d love to see this...but am certainly not crossing an ocean to go. Personally I’m fairly positive about Collins Jr. on drums. Anybody who has heard him on the Sound Of Contact debut will know that the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree. He genuinely sounds like his father in that tight n sloppy way that one usually has to trawl through old 60s and 70s albums to hear. I imagine he will fit in Genesis perfectly.
I hope daddy-o gets his mojo back. The recent pictures I’ve seen of him do not look good...sorta like Captain Picard’s long lost brother..with a massive hangover. |
It was Simon Collins played on Sound Of Contact. As a kid he also used to play a tiny drum set along off stage at Genesis gigs. Cute!
I presume Nic Collins is a different son? | What? Alrighty then...he does seem covered beat-wise from a family point of view. I had no idea Phil had another drumming offspring..but if he’s anything like Simon, he’ll surely kick arse!
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 07 2020 at 08:14
Nic is the drummer and Simon is the singer and actually Genesis should take both because Simon could help with the vocals--Phils voice is tough to listen to at times---
But Steve is doing an amazing job of keeping the great Genesis music alive and you will most certainly get your money's worth---his concerts are amazing...all top notch musicians respecting the music ---(unlike Yes).
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 07 2020 at 09:02
Catcher10 wrote:
I have been following this rumor for the past 2 months or so, it seems it may be true as an announcement is due out tomorrow from the BBC Radio 2 morning show. Read more about it here, and of course no Peter Gabriel or Steve Hackett to join the reunion, regardless I'm in if they come to the US.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/genesis-reunion-report/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_4572276" rel="nofollow - https://ultimateclassicrock.com/genesis-reunion-report/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_4572276 |
Hi,
I might need a couch to sleep on if they make it to Seattle ... I'm gonna guess they will only do the major cities ... and that would mean Seattle is in! In the West Coast it would be LA, SF and Seattle ... Portland is a crap music town by comparison! Even though they have a great band ... GRAILS .... on their dockets ... but I'm not sure I have seen a show in Portland ... and I don't want to bet that only 12 people will show up for the night!
I'm guessing that Steve Hackett is booked so far ahead that anything with GENESIS is probably impossible, but really, without Steve Hackett, I'm not sure it will be that great ... just another memory lain down the road and a million in your pocket!
PG ... well, no surprise there, he is not that great anymore, and he has no "shtick" to make himself more valuable and important than the band ... so he won't show up ... I really wish he would swallow up his pride and come to the show and put in a nice set ... if not for the band, it would be one of the greatest treats of all for the fans, almost all of whom, never got to see PG with them, when it mattered and counted ... but I really think that a lot of it has to do with his fellow members not appreciating a lot of TLLDOB and he would want to do several bits from it, I'm sure ... it's his best work ever ... and the single stuff after, is not half as good!
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Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: March 07 2020 at 10:37
na, not my cop.
Prefer to remember them from recorded material, saw Hacket few years back was ok, but far from Genesis at their best.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 08 2020 at 01:01
twosteves wrote:
Nic is the drummer and Simon is the singer and actually Genesis should take both because Simon could help with the vocals--Phils voice is tough to listen to at times---
But Steve is doing an amazing job of keeping the great Genesis music alive and you will most certainly get your money's worth---his concerts are amazing...all top notch musicians respecting the music ---(unlike Yes).
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Simon Collins plays drums as well and was the drummer and lead singer for Sound Of Contact . The drums are very 'Duke like' on this album but Nic may be just as good hopefully ( as I'm going!) http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=41748" rel="nofollow -
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Studio Album, released in 2013
Songs / Tracks Listing
1. Sound of Contact (2:05) 2. Cosmic Distance Ladder (4:43) 3. Pale Blue Dot (4:44) 4. I Am Dimensionaut (6:24) 5. Not Coming Down (6:01) 6. Remote View (3:54) 7. Beyond Illumination (5:53) 8. Only Breathing Out (5:56) 9. Realm of In-Organic Beings (2:52) 10. Closer to You (5:05) 11. Omega Point (6:29) 12. Möbius Slip (19:35) : - Part-I : In The Difference Engine - Part-II : Perihelion Continuum - Part-III : Salvation Found - Part-IV : All Worlds All Times
Total time 73:41
Line-up / Musicians
- Simon Collins / lead vocals, drums, percussion, co-producer - Kelly Nordstrom / electric & acoustic guitars, bass - Matt Dorsey / electric & acoustic guitars, bass, backing vocals - Dave Kerzner / keyboards, acoustic guitar, backing vocals, sound design, co-producer
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 08 2020 at 11:43
moshkito wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
I have been following this rumor for the past 2 months or so, it seems it may be true as an announcement is due out tomorrow from the BBC Radio 2 morning show. Read more about it here, and of course no Peter Gabriel or Steve Hackett to join the reunion, regardless I'm in if they come to the US.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/genesis-reunion-report/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_4572276" rel="nofollow - https://ultimateclassicrock.com/genesis-reunion-report/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_4572276 |
Hi,
I might need a couch to sleep on if they make it to Seattle ... I'm gonna guess they will only do the major cities ... and that would mean Seattle is in! In the West Coast it would be LA, SF and Seattle ... Portland is a crap music town by comparison! Even though they have a great band ... GRAILS .... on their dockets ... but I'm not sure I have seen a show in Portland ... and I don't want to bet that only 12 people will show up for the night!
I'm guessing that Steve Hackett is booked so far ahead that anything with GENESIS is probably impossible, but really, without Steve Hackett, I'm not sure it will be that great ... just another memory lain down the road and a million in your pocket!
PG ... well, no surprise there, he is not that great anymore, and he has no "shtick" to make himself more valuable and important than the band ... so he won't show up ... I really wish he would swallow up his pride and come to the show and put in a nice set ... if not for the band, it would be one of the greatest treats of all for the fans, almost all of whom, never got to see PG with them, when it mattered and counted ... but I really think that a lot of it has to do with his fellow members not appreciating a lot of TLLDOB and he would want to do several bits from it, I'm sure ... it's his best work ever ... and the single stuff after, is not half as good!
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First they need to announce a US Tour, which I suspect will only happen upon Phil feeling like he can after this UK tour. I will be shocked if they come to Seattle. Clearly the east coast is easy but then have to travel 3000 miles to west coast, we'll see. Portland gets the same shows Seattle does on the prog scene of late, I know most that come here do hit Portland also. Haken, Riverside, Pineapple Thief, SWilson, DT all make PDX a stop.....for sure we don't get all the shows though like say LA or NY gets.
We all want to see that lineup and it is still a chance as long as they are all still working and living, but relationships and business reasons might not let it happen. It seems PG is super hard to get time with to even discuss such a tour, he's either very busy or not interested. Hackett to me simply does not want to do it..... We can still dream though.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 08 2020 at 12:15
Catcher10 wrote:
... Portland gets the same shows Seattle does on the prog scene of late, I know most that come here do hit Portland also. Haken, Riverside, Pineapple Thief, SWilson, DT all make PDX a stop.....for sure we don't get all the shows though like say LA or NY gets. ... |
Hi,
Probably not anymore ... many of these got to stay with Paul Allen and have the benefits of the high life (specially Roger Waters), but in the end, now they will have to pay for this and that ... and not bother stopping here ... the thing is, the airport here is a far better location for a stop than Seattle ... but the issue might be lugging all the equipment around ... and the usual ... GENESIS ... "it's a family tour"!
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 09 2020 at 10:47
moshkito wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
... Portland gets the same shows Seattle does on the prog scene of late, I know most that come here do hit Portland also. Haken, Riverside, Pineapple Thief, SWilson, DT all make PDX a stop.....for sure we don't get all the shows though like say LA or NY gets. ... |
Hi,
Probably not anymore ... many of these got to stay with Paul Allen and have the benefits of the high life (specially Roger Waters), but in the end, now they will have to pay for this and that ... and not bother stopping here ... the thing is, the airport here is a far better location for a stop than Seattle ... but the issue might be lugging all the equipment around ... and the usual ... GENESIS ... "it's a family tour"!
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I love Pink Floyd, but Roger Waters can kiss my arse, he's a doosh. You'd have to pay me to see his show.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 10 2020 at 04:15
I'm going to see Hackett in November. That'll do for me. I've only seen him once before and that was all too briefly at a festival where the organisors decided that because they were running over they would cut his set, and not the likes of Wishbone Ash, who I would have thought were less of a draw on the Prog Stage, and to be frank were.. zzzzz
Does anyone have any clear footage of Nic Collins drumming? I can find low quality clips of him playing on his dads recent tour, but nothing where he is playing more complex stuff. I don't want to be prejudiced, but the best drummers I've known could not do Genesis songs justice at 18, not in the way Phil and/or Chester could. I do appreciate Nic has had a good teacher!
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 10 2020 at 10:55
Blacksword wrote:
I'm going to see Hackett in November. That'll do for me. I've only seen him once before and that was all too briefly at a festival where the organisors decided that because they were running over they would cut his set, and not the likes of Wishbone Ash, who I would have thought were less of a draw on the Prog Stage, and to be frank were.. zzzzz
Does anyone have any clear footage of Nic Collins drumming? I can find low quality clips of him playing on his dads recent tour, but nothing where he is playing more complex stuff. I don't want to be prejudiced, but the best drummers I've known could not do Genesis songs justice at 18, not in the way Phil and/or Chester could. I do appreciate Nic has had a good teacher! |
Agree, not sure why Chester is not part of the tour, hoping Nic can pull it off . On the big stage like that playing some complex material, I have a feeling he will do fine. The recent interview with Genesis on the tour Phil did mention he was planning on doing some drumming, hope he has received some good PT for his nerve damage. Physically he looks pretty frail, Tony Banks looks the best of the 3 with Rutherford looking older....
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Posted By: heavydrum
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 03:09
to see three old men play 'invisible touch'? no, thanks, it's pretty ridiculous, seeing collins standing on a chair for two hours while his son tries his best back there... no offense to the kid but his best doesn't even come close to what his father could do. so no, i'll stay home and listen to 'foxtrot'. again.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 03:27
His other son Simon is definitely good enough to pull off old school Genesis material in a convincing manner. Anyone doubting this should check out Dimensionaut. ....but yeah it’s Nic playing (?)
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 08:57
Simon does a great job of singing Genesis on Hacketts album --and I just cant believe Phil's voice can do this. So having a singer/drummer touring might fill in the blanks.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 09:30
Blacksword wrote:
I'm going to see Hackett in November. That'll do for me. I've only seen him once before and that was all too briefly at a festival where the organisors decided that because they were running over they would cut his set, and not the likes of Wishbone Ash, who I would have thought were less of a draw on the Prog Stage, and to be frank were.. zzzzz
Does anyone have any clear footage of Nic Collins drumming? I can find low quality clips of him playing on his dads recent tour, but nothing where he is playing more complex stuff. I don't want to be prejudiced, but the best drummers I've known could not do Genesis songs justice at 18, not in the way Phil and/or Chester could. I do appreciate Nic has had a good teacher! |
You're just after a job Andy.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 17:47
heavydrum wrote:
to see three old men play 'invisible touch'? no, thanks, it's pretty ridiculous, seeing collins standing on a chair for two hours while his son tries his best back there... no offense to the kid but his best doesn't even come close to what his father could do.so no, i'll stay home and listen to 'foxtrot'. again. |
why would he stand on the chair?
Anyway 2 hours of Invisible Touch could severely grate on the ears. Hopefully they might play something else along the way
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 17:57
richardh wrote:
heavydrum wrote:
to see three old men play 'invisible touch'? no, thanks, it's pretty ridiculous, seeing collins standing on a chair for two hours while his son tries his best back there... no offense to the kid but his best doesn't even come close to what his father could do.so no, i'll stay home and listen to 'foxtrot'. again. |
why would he stand on the chair?
Anyway 2 hours of Invisible Touch could severely grate on the ears. Hopefully they might play something else along the way |
They'll play one hour of an extended version of Inivisible Touch and one hour of an extended I can't dance.
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 21:46
I would be ecstatic over a new Genesis album (3-man, 4-man or 5-man, it doesn't matter). While I understand that a tour is going to rake in a whole lot more cash for the guys, I'm not that interested in rehashing the glory days with a new tour. Now if they had a new album to tour on, that would be something.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 16:53
Catcher10 wrote:
... I love Pink Floyd, but Roger Waters can kiss my arse, he's a doosh. You'd have to pay me to see his show. |
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For people that never got to see PF and The Wall, he is magnificent ... for us old timers that saw the original way back when ... it is a completely whole other story and I was not happy with Roger's redo of The Wall, and the thing that I missed the most? ... the stuff that no one remembers .... the quad sound going around the crowd ... you could hear the steps of the girl going across the room and even say ... look at those guitars ... which started almost in the back and echoed to the front! On Roger's show it was that digital bullpucky and it only went from stage left to right ... and both you and I ... honestly? I feel cheated! The one thing that made PF the best in terms of a show, was basically taken out!!
But GENESIS, by the time I got into them, it was during SEBTP when it came out and then TLLDOB ... and in that year I got all their early stuff and Anthony Phillips stuff ... and AP has been much more important to me than either GENESIS or PG ... and way more creative for my tastes!
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 17:07
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 03:22
It might eventually produce an album anyway. Sometimes a tour can get the old creative juices going and they can see how Nic get's on playing the stuff.
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: March 19 2020 at 16:40
They will never make a new album because they know it will be endlessly compared/contrasted to what they wrote and recorded 45 years ago!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 21 2020 at 07:32
Steve Wyzard wrote:
They will never make a new album because they know it will be endlessly compared/contrasted to what they wrote and recorded 45 years ago! |
Hi,
Not to mention that the chances of this tour taking place in 2020 is probably highly unlikely and I'm not sure that anyone is going to try and put together a stadium show for them, either.
The whole virus thing is more serious than it is thought, and hopefully it won't cause major problems, but hoping to see a band, for the rest of this year? ... I have my doubts even though many are already rescheduling things.
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Posted By: Jagriner4
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 09:39
Saw the Last Domino? show in Chicago. This was terrific closure to a fabulous career (albeit one with a few detours).
The show did include much that was 80's pop, but there was also much that was prog. The show started with Duke and included nearly all of Selling England by the Pound.
Daryl Stuermer played the Hackett bits from the SEBTP titles with skill, finesse and respect. Though an employee rather than a member of the band, he was truly THE guitarist on stage (no offense intended to Mr. Rutherford, a fantastic musician and composer himself).
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 19 2022 at 19:39
Jagriner4 wrote:
Saw the Last Domino? show in Chicago. This was terrific closure to a fabulous career (albeit one with a few detours).
The show did include much that was 80's pop, but there was also much that was prog. The show started with Duke and included nearly all of Selling England by the Pound.
Daryl Stuermer played the Hackett bits from the SEBTP titles with skill, finesse and respect. Though an employee rather than a member of the band, he was truly THE guitarist on stage (no offense intended to Mr. Rutherford, a fantastic musician and composer himself). |
Nice, I didn't expect to play so much from the earlier days. Have they ever done so before, since Hackett left?
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 23:57
^ they didn't (at least when I saw them) . Much of the prog stuff was just small excerpts so the statement they played most of SEBTP is stretching it a bit. However I did enjoy the tour debut show in Birmingham (UK) and was very impressed with Nick as I think I posted before.
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