You know what, tales is the best yes album
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Topic: You know what, tales is the best yes album
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Subject: You know what, tales is the best yes album
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 09:38
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I don’t care what rick wakeman said or about length or anything, I will die on this hill. The album from start to finish is brilliant and just out of this world. 5 stars easily for me |
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 10:01
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Welcome to the club, my friend - really an astonishing work of art, indeed ! (if you haven't yet go now listen to Squire's Fish Out Of Water to prolong the pleasure
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 10:08
| Since taste is a subjective, personal affair, many people might like something you hate, or hate something you love. I personally like Tales, it's a great album, with a lot of fantastic music to enjoy. That being said, the general opinion seems to differ, but that's something I don't really care about much. |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 10:38
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Affirmative 😎.... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 10:42
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The remastered longer version is clearly in the top five symphonic prog releases of all time and anybody who says different is clearly a pop loving anti-prog knob muffin... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 11:02
I've never been called a pop loving anti-prog knob muffin before. One of the finest insults ever posted!   ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
M27Barney wrote:Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 11:10
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I agree that Tales is one of my favorite albums. It takes time to really get it, and if you don't have the time, then you won't get it. I agreed with the majority at one time, and wasn't a big fan, but over the years, I have really grown to appreciate it. I think Wakeman's complaint was that there were sections and times when certain members were underutilized, especially during the recording process, and he felt he had nothing to do while others were trying to fine tune certain sections. The four tracks tend to focus on different instruments, so he felt sometimes that he was wasting his time and not contributing enough to the album. I know there is the story that he ate a curry during a performance, maybe he was hungry. But I think the fact that he left the band for a while after the tour shows that he was displeased with the over the top-ness of it all, and rejoined the band when the songs became shorter. Anderson later admitted that he pushed Wakeman too hard because Anderson was unsatisfied with one of the keyboard solos and kept after him to get it right. Later that same day that he left, Wakeman found out that his solo album "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" entered the UK chart at number 1. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 12:49
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Left because Yes music was becoming too much over the top... says the man that released Jourey to the Center of the Earth and Myths and Legends (and played the last one on ice with a skate show). Oh, and I do love Myths and Legends, easily more than Tales. About the Curry incident, I have read Wakeman telling the story, and if I remember correctly, his tech man was asking him what would he have for dinner (Rick thinking about after the show), and a while later he comes with the curry in the middle of the show. And well, he ate it. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 13:01
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+1 ------------- |
Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 13:28
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Rick should do whatever he want and anytime he want too, as should any other artist, the day when the audience start to decide what the artist should do is the day art dies. That said a fine Yes album but for me not the best
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 14:24
In GOR's own words: In those days, I used to have my roadie actually lying underneath the Hammond organ throughout the set. If anything went wrong he could try to fix it. Also, he could continually hand me my alcoholic drinks. We'd often have a little chat and on this particular evening in Manchester, I thought he said: 'What are you doing after the show?' 'I'm going to have a curry,' I replied. 'What would you order?' It seemed a strangely specific question but I didn't have much else to do so I told him. 'Chicken vindaloo, pilau rice, half a dozen poppadums, bhindi bhaji, Bombay aloo and a stuffed paratha.' About 30 minutes later, I started to get this distinct waft of curry. I looked down and my roadie was lying there holding up an Indian takeaway. 'What's that?' I asked. 'You said you wanted a curry.' 'No. I said I wanted a curry after the show...' However, it smelled really good so he passed up the little foil trays and I laid this lovely spread out on top of the keyboard and ate it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1045969/Yes-original-Spinal-Tap-says-Rick-Wakeman-Seventies-prog-rock-supergroup.html#ixzz1Ss5rspNu" rel="nofollow - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1045969/Yes-original-Spinal-Tap-says-Rick-Wakeman-Seventies-prog-rock-supergroup.html#ixzz1Ss5rspNu ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 14:25
I haven't listened to "Tales of Topographic Oceans" for years, but this illuminating thread has inspired me to go out and buy the CD. 
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 15:24
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I choose to suffer being labeled an anti-prog knob muffin: 5 stars is almost 3 too much in this case. The Ancient is fine, The Revealing Science of God is more or less ok, or let's say it was before the glorious vocal intro was utterly ruined by the synth soundscapes that popped up in later releases. The Remembering is enjoyable in the 9-14 minute range and the other 15 minutes are just tedious and Ritual goes nowhere which is Nirvana for some.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 16:31
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Nah, it's not. |
Posted By: Songtoad
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 16:38
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I absolutely agree! And like already mentioned, Chris Squire AND Rick Wakemans solo albums are awesome, too! ------------- Change grants all interrelated pathways of every single object and all combinations of events and time-essences and it's reversed exceeds it upon being possible at any place, time or referential point |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 17:51
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Wakeman was right. Tales of Topographic Overkill. Distill down to one record, and you probably have a great album. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 23:10
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I think "Revealing Science of God" is as good as anything Yes has recorded. The other 3 sides have their moments, both great and bland, but don't live up to Side One. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 01:47
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Agreed about Revealing Science of God. One of THE best Yes tracks, EVER. TFTGO is right up there. CTTE will always be my #1, but TFTGO and Relayer are essentially neck and neck for that second spot. Wakeman is an idiot and I'm actually glad he left after this record. Moraz is superior! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 01:54
| I appreciate that it is an uncompromising as any prog album ever released , certainly for the time and what people considered to be 'prog' at the time. It is what was meant to be. Personally though I have a short attention span for someone that loves prog. I don't actually enjoy classical music all that much and that is probably a bit of a problem regarding this. I love the over the top nature of prog and especially a bombastic approach. This album is just far too restrained and tastleful for me to enjoy it that much. Gates of Delirium on the other hand just nailed it! |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 03:58
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Man, I'm hearing it as I speak (or rather type haha). Every song on it just gets better and better. The Revealing Science of God might be the weakest track on there and that piece is damn strong. Bro, I don't know if it's their best but I think it's up there for sure. What an incredible recording.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 05:20
"Tales" no, "Edge" yes. |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 05:24
| It's a great album, up there with their best. It was meant to beat all other albums in terms of "proggyness" and man did it beat them. It's over the top because that's what the band wanted it to be. You just need to be in the right mood for it. |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 06:30
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The anecdote is clearly mostly fabrication. In 1973 , tbe curry houses in manchester near the free trade hall (they were very few in 1973) would have sold three curries. Mild, Madras and vindaloo and BOILED rice. No nan bread, only buttered chapati. Onion bhaji and poppadum starters....I heard that he had a pot of vindaloo and bolied rice....historically cotrect in terms of what was available in 1973... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 07:26
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I love the album, it's brilliant as is anything by Yes from The Yes Album to Going For The One but I would rank CTTE and Relayer slightly above it. "The Remembering" is my favourite track on the album, in case you were wondering.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 07:34
I'm SO looking forward to listening to "Tales from Topographic Oceans" again after reading everyone's insightful comments on this thread. 
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 07:48
| Best is a tough sell given how magnificent TYE, F, CTTE, and R are, but it definitely should be in the conversation. It is far too often slighted relative to the others. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 08:43
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I think its a great achievement and one of my fav Yes albums---is it as tight as CTTE? no --but it is 90 min long. Rick can criticize it all he wants but he does some of his best innovative playing on it---his solo on RSOG is spellbinding.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 18:27
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 19:48
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If you love Yes, you love Tales. It doesn't have to be your favorite, but it's prime-era Yes. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 20:21
| I think it's worthy of four stars on the PA rating scale but not five. I actually think ritual is one of Yes's most under rated tracks. The only one I'm not that crazy about is the remembering which seems to overstay it's welcome but most of TFTO is pretty solid over all. I might be the only person on here who actually wasn't that crazy about the SW remix though. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 02:00
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I don't think it's their best but I think it's underrated. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 03:20
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I've always enjoyed the album's long running time. It's just MORE 1973 YES. How can this be a bad thing?
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 03:29
I think the album's mostly underrated by Rick Wakeman but I like it.
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 07:40
| First let me say I love Yes, one of my favorite bands ever. That said, I was never a fan of TFTO. It has great moments but for me it does drag out at times & as Mr. Wakemen himself said , does seem to have a lot of padding. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 10:19
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Tales is my all time favorite LP by any band, any genre, any era. The audacity of YES!!! The sheer, relentless searching for weirder sounds, stranger arrangements and even more celestial lyrical content. What's not to like? It's everything I love (and hate) about Prog all in one amazing double album. They truly don't make 'em like that anymore!!! (And yes, it took me about 100 listens to appreciate back in the 70's but thank God YES was/is my favorite band so I stuck with it. I can understand those who didn't have the patience though...)
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 10:21
Was this your first venture into the world of Tales From Topographic Oceans?
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 10:27
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They were slumming and tried to legitimize things with another Roger Dean cover. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 12:16
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^ LOL............. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |