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Topic: Cat Food vs Ladies of the Road
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Cat Food vs Ladies of the Road
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 16:19
Two homages made to the Beatles by King Crimson. So cleverly done most people wont not it, but Cat Food and Ladies of the Road is homage or variations of Come Together bass line "in a very cool way" imo.



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 16:34
Easily CF

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 16:47
Two very different song, with different themes and moods. The live version of Cat Food is quite excellent, and just for that, it gets my vote.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 16:50
But am I the only whom hear the node towards Come Together by the Beatles, if ever so slightly.

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 17:57
Ladies

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 18:03
Cat Food

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 18:09
I like both.

the biggest homage to the Beatles by King Crimson is of course "Happy Family"


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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 18:48
Like both - tough choice. Cat Food, however, since the first time I heard it - probably 1977ish - on a borrowed copy of The Young Persons' Guide to King Crimson has always been a sentimental favorite... 

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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 19:39
They are both KC, so they are both great, but the winner is ... Cat Food .... Again?

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 01:00
Love both equally I guess, but I'll vote for the Ladies as I've been listening to Islands a lot recently.

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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 01:03
Ladies


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 02:24
Both songs are fine. I vote for Ladies of the Road because I find Greg Lake's vocals in Cat Food slightly annoying somehow (strange since I'm usually fine with his vocals). On the other hand, there is some magic at hand when Lake shuts up and Keith Tippett's piano joins in. 

Dinosaur is another KC song that would fit in this poll.


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 02:26
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

But am I the only whom hear the node towards Come Together by the Beatles, if ever so slightly.
No you're not. I think Ladies of the Road is a bit too much of a mess of a Beatles-pastiche and never been a favorite of mine. Cat Food got some of Come Together's attitude (in vocal delivery) and I easily recognise where they got the inspiration for that bassline - but stands solid on its own two feet and has the feel of an actual tune. As its 70's King Crimson I still like them both, but I choose the latter if I have to.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 02:32
cat food


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 02:40
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Both songs are fine. I vote for Ladies of the Road because I find Greg Lake's vocals in Cat Food slightly annoying somehow (strange since I'm usually fine with his vocals). On the other hand, there is some magic at hand when Lake shuts up and Keith Tippett's piano joins in. 

Dinosaur is another KC song that would fit in this poll.


Always loved Dinosaur. Great fun song.

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: June 13 2019 at 13:52
I prefer Islands over In the Wake of Poseidon.

However it's gotta be Cat Food. 


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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: June 15 2019 at 02:07
Cat Food  


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 15 2019 at 03:44
Even though it lifts the chorus melody from Mary Poppins Chim Chim Cheree, I voted for Ladies of the Road as it's always welcome to hear a Prog band who don't take themselves or their audience too seriously


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 15 2019 at 11:14
I can't choose between the two. Both great.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 15 2019 at 11:17
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Two homages made to the Beatles by King Crimson. So cleverly done most people wont not it, but Cat Food and Ladies of the Road is homage or variations of Come Together bass line "in a very cool way" imo.

Unless you specifically read that somewhere and can say for absolute certain that is the case I am going to have to respectfully disagree. The only Beatles homage that I know of that KC did was "happy family." The Beatles were barely even broken up when "cat food" was written and recorded so that one in particular seems unlikely to me.


Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: June 16 2019 at 11:44
Any homage, I suppose, could have been unintended/accidental, although to be honest I am not sure I hear enough of it there to agree. As for the quality of the songs in the poll, the live version of Cat Food takes it a step higher...


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 16 2019 at 11:52
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Even though it lifts the chorus melody from Mary Poppins Chim Chim Cheree, I voted for Ladies of the Road as it's always welcome to hear a Prog band who don't take themselves or their audience too seriously

Heh. Same chord sequence maybe but that's about it. The same could be said about that one Jethro Tull song and hotel california. Personally I barely hear it and I doubt it was intentional.


Posted By: Ian Stuart
Date Posted: June 16 2019 at 23:31
Two wonderful songs from an epic band - but I cast one for the 'underdog' rather than the cat ...



Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: June 17 2019 at 10:04
Neither

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 11:26
Cat Food.

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: July 01 2019 at 13:47
Except for the bridge, Ladies of the Road must have been Fripp and Sinfield's idea of a bar song played on an ill-sounding jukebox. Cat Food on the other hand, has plenty to recommend it, and Lake and Tippett's contributions make it a bonafied classic for the ages.

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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: July 03 2019 at 03:24
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Two homages made to the Beatles by King Crimson. So cleverly done most people wont not it, but Cat Food and Ladies of the Road is homage or variations of Come Together bass line "in a very cool way" imo.

Unless you specifically read that somewhere and can say for absolute certain that is the case I am going to have to respectfully disagree. The only Beatles homage that I know of that KC did was "happy family." The Beatles were barely even broken up when "cat food" was written and recorded so that one in particular seems unlikely to me.


I respectfully disagree with your assumption......as soon as I first heard Cat Food when it was released, I automatically yelled at the top of my voice "Come Together"...but only the bass line.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 03 2019 at 13:28
I wound up not voting because there is no "both equally" option which is what I usually have in my polls. Usually I have a clear favorite even if by a little bit but not always. Anyway, cat food is more of a fun song but I don't necessarily like it better. So unofficially(since I obviously don't have a choice)I vote both equally.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 03 2019 at 13:32
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Two homages made to the Beatles by King Crimson. So cleverly done most people wont not it, but Cat Food and Ladies of the Road is homage or variations of Come Together bass line "in a very cool way" imo.

Unless you specifically read that somewhere and can say for absolute certain that is the case I am going to have to respectfully disagree. The only Beatles homage that I know of that KC did was "happy family." The Beatles were barely even broken up when "cat food" was written and recorded so that one in particular seems unlikely to me.


I respectfully disagree with your assumption......as soon as I first heard Cat Food when it was released, I automatically yelled at the top of my voice "Come Together"...but only the bass line.

I respectfully disagree with your disagreeing. You can say they sound a like but that doesn't mean in no uncertain terms that they stole the bassline from the Beatles. Maybe it's a coincidence? Or maybe they did hear it but just used part of it. It does sound similar but they are both ultimately different imo. Everyone hears what they want to hear though. But again, I stand by my original assertion that unless you read that somewhere and can prove they stole it it's just two songs that have a bass line that sounds similar. Do you have any idea how common that is? If not here's a hint. It's very common.


Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: July 03 2019 at 13:50
Cat Food for me.

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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 15 2020 at 11:59
Cat Food

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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: April 15 2020 at 20:16
Easy, Cat.

Love the 2nd. half!

Also, I'm currently on an 'In the Wake..' binge  : )


Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: April 15 2020 at 20:41
Ladies Of The Road, though I do enjoy Cat Food quite a bit with it's weird piano bits. Ladies Of The Road is strangely one of my favorite KC songs, despite the lyrics.

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