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Topic: Zappa vs.Tull vs. RushPosted By: Argo2112
Subject: Zappa vs.Tull vs. Rush
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 13:58
Since we seem to be going poll crazy lately I thought this one might be interesting. Have at it!
Replies: Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 14:14
Tull.Though Rush has the best 2 albums in Kings and Hemispheres.There are more Tull songs I like.Zappa I like in small dozes.
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 14:31
Hum, Zappa, no !?
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 15:18
3 great artists/bands....gotta pick Tull on this one.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 15:52
Tull.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 16:51
Frank Zappa. Followed by Tull. Just put a piece of black tape over Rush's name.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 17:40
Zappa.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 17:58
Jethro Tull, Frank Zappa, Rush. All three are excellent.
Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 18:06
Rush by a mile. Easy choice.
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 19:21
Easily Frank Zappa. Distant second, Tull. Rush not even in the same ZIP code...
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 19:38
I'm using the chicken to measure it.
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 20:16
Used to be somewhat of a Rush fan, even saw them live in the spring of '94. It was a good show, they definitely didn't disappoint. And I've heard some Tull songs on the radio, pretty good. But 62 albums... and most of it high quality. I could listen to Frank play the guitar for hours and he makes me laugh. Easy vote here. The only artists I MIGHT vote for over him would be like The Beatles or Yes.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 20:17
Big Rush fan here in fact probably my second favorite band next to Yes.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 20:58
DarkTower wrote:
Rush by a mile. Easy choice.
Me too. I don't dislike Frank but I've only heard a handful of his albums. I like Rush way more(and more than Tull too). I'm sure those who like Frank Zappa more than Rush haven't heard many Rush albums either so it all evens out. However, I do plan on getting more FZ at some point although I don't think it will change my mind about Rush. Rush have excellent musicianship, great songwriting and arrangements and very intelligent and often thought provoking lyrics. What's not to like?
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 21:25
Zappa over Tull, with Rush a very distant third.
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 21:39
I love Tull. I really really love Tull. But Zappa is genius.
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 21:41
Barbu wrote:
I'm using the chicken to measure it.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 22:11
I guess Jethro Tull.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 01:40
Rush.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 02:55
DarkTower wrote:
Rush by a mile. Easy choice.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 03:59
Zappa is a genius but Tull have many songs that are closer to my heart.
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 04:25
Rush !!!
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 07:07
I like jazzy Zappa
but I love both
Rush and Tull
voted Rush
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 07:22
I voted for Rush but Tull and Zappa are tops so I had to think about it.
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 08:04
Since I'm not the biggest Zappa fan, it all comes down to Kings and Hemispheres on one hand, and Thick and Passion on the other. A Passion Play makes JT win this one, but I do think JT had lower lows than Rush.
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Posted By: Whamdaddy
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 08:59
Totally unfair to put Zappa against anybody
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 10:04
Close for me between Rush & Zappa but I would go..
Rush > Zappa > Tull
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 10:38
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
DarkTower wrote:
Rush by a mile. Easy choice.
Me too. I don't dislike Frank but I've only heard a handful of his albums. I like Rush way more(and more than Tull too). I'm sure those who like Frank Zappa more than Rush haven't heard many Rush albums either so it all evens out. However, I do plan on getting more FZ at some point although I don't think it will change my mind about Rush. Rush have excellent musicianship, great songwriting and arrangements and very intelligent and often thought provoking lyrics. What's not to like?
I like Zappa more than Rush and know more Rush than Zappa. I've heard most of the Rush studio albums in full, and have heard all of the Rush studio albums up to the end of the 80s multiple times (and I've owned quite a few of them) and I know the first three live albums well. I have a friend who was very big on Rush, and we shared a house up at Whistler (a ski resort area) for quite some time. I got really sick of hearing Rush. I actually haven't really been into Rush since I was a teenager. I don't much like Gedddy Lee's vocals, while there is hard rock I like, it's often too hard rock for me, and too AOR often. I like some Rush, but overall it's not really my style. I also don't much like much of the lyrics. I don't find Rush that deep (in "Free Will", for instance, I don't think its profound, and I am a determinist). I find Robert Wyatt's "Free Will and Testament" a more interesting take. I'm not keep on Ayn Rand, which they were into. Bumped an old poll of mine, even though I wasn't very deep with my comments.
For me it's between Zappa and Tull and I vote for Zappa. I don't like everything Zappa, but what I do, I often love.
Personally, I'd take this over anything Rush as it's more my kind of style:
And this is what got me into Zappa after hearing it on the radio:
(twas big love on first listen).
I like Zappa's playfulness.
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 15:50
Listed in my order. All are good with me. I only have those two back to back Rush ones in my collection though... Sickness :P
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 16:09
Zappa. I don't even care for much of his work after 1974, but the early stuff is immortal. The other two just don't register in comparison.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 16:54
There is a very good reason I do not listen to Zappa.
Tull is excellent, after Heavy Horses it does die off though, so only about 10-12yrs worth of material is good, and of those half are very good and one brilliant.
Rush is tough to compete against, the catalog is huge and pretty much every album is very good with most being excellent and half being brilliant recordings and several masterpieces......
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 17:23
Rush started to be pretty good in 78 but only lasted until 82. Zappa was pretty good from 72-83 but pretty crappy before 72 apart from Hot Rats. Love Tull from 69-82. With all Tulls bonus tracks on the remixes, I wonder who has more studio tracks from 68-82 out of Tull and Zappa
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 00:21
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 10:25
Rush became, for the most part, boring post Grace Under Pressure. I find many things interesting on the mainstay of 'Tull albums.
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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 14:57
Rush. I'm not a fan of Zappa nor Tull.
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 00:35
ZAPPA Genius ZAPPA
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 08:04
Love all three, but it's gotta be
Rush Tull Zappa
Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 19:17
All three artists are unique and worthy of winning such a poll!
I have heard all the studio albums by all three artists (and most of the live ones too), and while I personally think Zappa is even more special than the others, I also think it a bit silly to compare three otherwise very different artists. Each stands pretty close to the top of their genres, so in some respects isn't this just a comparison of different styles?
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 19:27
I too, am most torn between Zappa and Tull. I do enjoy Rush, but love Z & T.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 20:07
Fischman wrote:
Love all three, but it's gotta be
Rush Tull Zappa
Same here(in that order)
Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: May 11 2019 at 07:11
Interestingly, Frank and Ian Anderson are the catalysts of the majority of the music and lyrics. Only Rush can truly be considered a cohesive band effort in my humble opinion. However; of the 3 in the poll... Zappa & Tull both are fav's of mine while only Farewell through Signals albums manage to make it to the speakers these days.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 12 2019 at 00:27
Rush although I'm playing 'catch up' on the other two so it's not totally a fair fight.
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: May 13 2019 at 04:41
I enjoy a handful of Zappa and an arm full of Tull but I need a wheelbarrow for Rush so Rush it is.
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 07:09
Man With Hat wrote:
Zappa over Tull, with Rush a very distant third.
Yep.
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 22:04
Rush were strong for 4 years. Tull were strong for 12 years and Zappa 10 years. The votes are back to front as usual
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 23:23
dr prog wrote:
Rush were strong for 40 years. Tull were strong for 12 years and Zappa 10 years. The votes are back to front as usual
corrected
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 23:27
richardh wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Rush were strong for 40 years. Tull were strong for 12 years and Zappa 10 years. The votes are back to front as usual
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Lol. Pretty crap since 85 lol. Presto had some good stuff though
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 23:35
dr prog wrote:
richardh wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Rush were strong for 40 years. Tull were strong for 12 years and Zappa 10 years. The votes are back to front as usual
corrected
Lol. Pretty crap since 85 lol. Presto had some good stuff though
Mainly 3-4 star albums but not crap. Vapor Trails is one of my favourite Rush albums even though I would admit it's more hard rock in style than prog , and that's basically what Rush because from the 90's onwards. They did experiment with grunge a little on Test For Echo but I still like that album nevertheless. Even up to Snakes and Arrows they were still producing acceptable music and were a kick arse live band.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: May 16 2019 at 01:50
richardh wrote:
dr prog wrote:
richardh wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Rush were strong for 40 years. Tull were strong for 12 years and Zappa 10 years. The votes are back to front as usual
corrected
Lol. Pretty crap since 85 lol. Presto had some good stuff though
Mainly 3-4 star albums but not crap. Vapor Trails is one of my favourite Rush albums even though I would admit it's more hard rock in style than prog , and that's basically what Rush because from the 90's onwards. They did experiment with grunge a little on Test For Echo but I still like that album nevertheless. Even up to Snakes and Arrows they were still producing acceptable music and were a kick arse live band.
Grace and Presto were good. I find Pearts drum sounds pretty disappointing after Grace though
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 16 2019 at 02:16
Counterparts was their last good album IMO.
They did little for me after that, although I still enjoyed them live. For me, the songs started to merge into one long hard rock dirge. Songs on the earlier albums had edges, corners, strong melodies, memourable dynamics and personalities of their own. As they got into their 50's, they turned everything up to 11, and stripped down their sound and became notably less progressive.
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: May 16 2019 at 08:39
^ Absolutely agree. Counterparts was the last album I really liked. After that they lost me for the most part.
They had some moments here and there but I'm not a big fan of anything from Test for Echo onward.
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: October 20 2019 at 00:10
I love Rush but I can't vote because I don't really know the other 2
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Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: October 20 2019 at 03:05
1/ Tull
2/ Zappa
3/ Rush
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Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: October 20 2019 at 03:13
a fairly easy decision for me. Ive never liked any Frank Zappa stuff.
Im sorry to say that for me, Jethro Tull turned out to be one of those bands that whwn I investigated their back catalogue I found I didnt like their albums as much as I anticipated I would. Although Crest of a Knave and Heavy Horses are good albums. And they did do some grear tracks, eg Witch's Promise, Thick as a Brick etc
Rush did a run of great albums starting with 2112 and finishing with Signals imo so they get my vote.