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Topic: Your tastes in arts (film, novels, music, TV....)
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Your tastes in arts (film, novels, music, TV....)
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 09:19
I thought it would be interesting to see people's tastes across various arts. Feel free to come up with your own approaches to lists.   I'm going to do fourteen music choices, fourteen films, fourteen TV shows, and fourteen novels. I could easily choose others, but the idea is to give some idea of ones tastes across a range of arts (I think one's taste in one art will tend to be reflected in other arts). List as many or as few as you like or comment on other people's choices...

So here is my stab at it.

Novels:

- 1984 (George Orwell)
- The Road (Cormac McCarthy)
- Never Let Me Go (Kazuo Ishiguro)
- The Thee Stigmata of Palmer Eldtritch (Philip K. Dick)
- Mother Night (Kurt Vonnegut)
- Stranger in a Strange Land (Robert A. Heinlein)
- The Tin Drum (Günter Grass)
- Crime and Punishment (Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
- Infinite Jest (David Foster Wallace)
- Island (Aldous Huxley)
- Blindness (José Saramago)
- The Club Dumas (Arturo Pérez-Reverte)
- Oryx and Crake (Margaret Atwood)
- The World According to Garp (John Irving)

Films (director listed):

- A Clockwork Orange (Stanley Kubrick)
- Raise the Red Lantern (Zhang Yimou)
- Three Colours: Red (Krzysztof Kieślowski)
- Breaking the Waves (Lars von Trier)
- The Lobster (Yorgos Lanthimos)
- Brazil (Terry Gilliam)
- The Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman)
- Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer)
- Alphaville (Jean-Luc Godard)
- Drowning by Numbers (Peter Greenaway)
- The Wicker Man (Robin Hardy)
- Black Rain (Shohei Imamura)
- The Bothersome Man (Jens Lien)
- Harold and Maude (Hal Ashby)
- Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky)

TV Shows (writer/ creator listed):

- Dekalog (Krzysztof Kieślowski)
- The Singing Detective (Dennis Potter)
- House of Cards Trilogy (British version -- Andrew Davies, Michael Dobbs)
- The Prisoner (Patrick McGoohan)
- I, Claudius (Jack Pulman)
- Fargo (Noah Hawley)
- First Born (Ted Whitehead adapted from Maureen Duffy)
- Inside No. 9 (Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith)
- Black Mirror (Charlie Brooker)
- Utopia (Dennis Kelly)
- Les Revenants (Fabrice Gobert)
- The Twilight Zone (Rod Serling)
- Misfits (Howard Overman)
- Real Humans (Lars Lundström)

Music:

- Symphony No. 7 (Beethoven)
- Lamentations of Jeremiah (Thomas Tallis)
- Piano Trio in E-flat major, Op. 100 (Schubert)
- Cello Suites (J.S. Bach)
- Carmina Burana (Carl Orff)
- The Planets (Gustav Holst)
- Lakmé (Delibes)
- Génération sans Futur (Art Zoyd)
- Maddalena (Ennio Morricone)
- First Utterance (Comus)
- Big Fun (Miles Davis)
- Five Leaves Left (Nick Drake)
- Docteur Faust (Igor Wakhévitch)
- I futuribili (Egisto Macchi)

Be interesting to see playwrights, painters, poets etc.

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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 09:37
Music
Pink Floyd, Supertramp, The Doors, zeppelin, who, steely dan, Beatles, ELO, America, Eagles, David Bowie,  Three Dog Night, Fleetwood Mac, Black Sabbath, Neil Young, Marley, Stylistics, Stones, Hendrix

Favorite Movies
Harry and Tonto, La Strada, Nashville, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, Network, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Battle of Algiers, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, A Woman Under The Influence,  Buffalo '66

Comedy (big drop with each name)
Mort Sahl, Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Louis CK, Bill Burr, Dick Gregory, Dave Chappelle

Favorite Directors
Vittorio De Sica, Robert Bresson, Frank Capra, Akira Kurosawa, Ken Loach, Mike Leigh, John Cassavetes, Ingmar Bergman, John Huston, Elia Kazan, Robert Altman, Billy Wilder, Paul Mazursky, Sidney Lumet, Abbas Kiarostami, Stanley Kubrick


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 09:59
In lieu of a pompously delusional, lengthy post I know is sure to come, I will just say I like the "hits".

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 11:06
^^ Thanks MSF.

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

In lieu of a pompously delusional, lengthy post I know is sure to come, I will just say I like the "hits".


"... none of the hits, none of the time ... now you know what the art is all about!"

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Here's some shallow and inane thinking on display.

I do hope that various members give this a try, even if it's just one or two choices per art categories of their choosing. If one can choose just a few that "define" you somehow, or are deeply significant to you, then that would be great. I'm interested to see correlations across arts in taste. If one is into more mainstream music, then I might expect more mainstream novels and film, for instance. If art house cinema is ones thing, then perhaps one could expect more "arty" music choices. If one likes quirky music, then perhaps on will find more quirky films and novels etc. What we like gives insight into our personalities, but we are all complex individuals. Okay, that wasn't deep at all. ;)

Generally speaking, I tend to appreciate art house, science fiction, the strange, the quirky, the disturbing and black comedy. I'm pessimistic, melancholy, an outsider, and tend to appreciate dystopian tales. My first musical love was classical music, and the early films and novels that i was into were science fiction and fantasy (things like Logan's Run, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Doctor Who and in novels authors like H.G Wells, Issac Asmimov, Ray Bradbury, Douglas Adams and Tolkien).


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 11:08
14 is too many but here's a few off the top of my head

Novelists (rather than novels so I'm not here all day):
Dostoyevsky
Hemingway
Burgess
PKD
Hesse
Faulkner

Films:
Robocop
Bloodsport
The Big Lebowski
Falling Down
Mad Max
The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
Stalker

TV shows (I apparently only like comedies):
Top Gear
Trailer Park Boys
Red Green Show
World Peace
Mr Bean

Music:
Stravinsky
Faust/Krautrock in general
Kayo Dot
Primus
Melvins
Isis/Old Man Gloom/everything Aaron Turner
Swans
Neurosis
thrash metal in general

edit: ok I added a few more


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 13:22
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Here's some shallow and inane thinking on display.

Okay, okay, I'll play along. This took forever. f**k.

Novels:

The Once and Future King - T.H. White
The Name of the Rose - Umberto Eco
If On A Winter's Night A Traveler - Italo Calvino
The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit/The Silmarillion - J.R.R. Tolkien
Notre-Dame de Paris - Victor Hugo
Midnight's Children - Salman Rushdie
Ulysses - James Joyce
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain
I, Claudius - Robert Graves
David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
To Kill A Mockingbird - Harper Lee
Watership Down - Richard Adams
Dune - Frank Herbert

Films (director listed):

Lawrence of Arabia - David Lean
Elephant Man - David Lynch
The Lion in Winter - Anthony Harvey
The Godfather I and II - Francis Ford Coppola
The Quiet Man - John Ford
Beauty and the Beast - Jean Cocteau
Amadeus - Milos Forman
The Exorcist - William Friedkin
Goodfellas - Martin Scorsese
Harold and Maude - Hal Ashby
Monty Python and the Holy Grail - Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones
Blade Runner - Ridley Scott
Ran - Akira Kurosawa
Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo Del Toro

TV Shows (writer/ creator listed):

The Twilight Zone - Rod Serling
Game of Thrones - David Benioff
All in the Family - Norman Lear
Star Trek - Gene Rodenberry
The Ed Sullivan Show - Ed Sullivan
Ren and Stimpy - John Kricfalusi
Monty Python's Flying Circus - Python, Monty
Fawlty Towers - John Cleese
Seinfeld - Jerry Seinfeld
Law and Order (various) - Dick Wolf
Saturday Night Live - Lorne Michaels
Alfred Hitchcock Presents - Alfred Hitchcock
The Outer Limits - Leslie Stevens
Sherlock - Steven Moffat

Music (Not Prog or Rock):

Mississippi John Hurt - Avalon Blues: Complete 1928 Okeh Recordings
Howlin' Wolf - Moanin' in the Moonlight
Muddy Waters - Muddy "Mississippi" Waters Live
Elmore James - King of the Slide Guitar
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
The Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out
Duke Ellington - Ellington at Newport
Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain
Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
Woody Guthrie - The Asch Recordings
Vivaldi - The Four Seasons
Bach - Brandenburg Concertos
Mozart - Requiem in D minor
Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison







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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 13:59
Can't really think of that many great TV series off the top of my head, might come back to that one later. As for the rest of the categories:

Novels:

The Castle (Franz Kafka)
World Light (Halldór Laxness)
The Counterfeiters (André Gide)
Journey to the End of the Night (Louis-Ferdinand Céline)
A Fugitive Crosses His Tracks (Aksel Sandemose)
Mysteries (Knut Hamsun)
Watt (Samuel Beckett)
The Third Policeman (Flann O'Brien)
The Magic Mountain (Thomas Mann)
Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson (G. I. Gurdjieff)
Foucault's Pendulum (Umberto Eco)

Films:

The Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky)
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (John Cassavetes)
Kings of the Road (Wim Wenders)
Série noire (Alain Corneau)
L'atalante (Jean Vigo)
After Hours (Martin Scorsese)
Boy Meets Girl (Leos Carax)
The Mother and the Whore (Jean Eustache)
Thundercrack! (Curt McDowell)
Eraserhead (David Lynch)
Suspiria (Dario Argento)

Albums:

Secrets of the Beehive (David Sylvian)
Spirit of Eden (Talk Talk)
Lateralus (Tool)
Exercises in Futility (Mgła)
Public Castration Is a Good Idea (Swans)
Closer (Joy Division)
Sphere (Merzbow)
Free Jazz (Ornette Coleman)
Earthbound (King Crimson)
Zeichnungen des Patienten O.T. (Einstürzende Neubauten)
Through Silver in Blood (Neurosis)


Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 15:20
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Série noire (Alain Corneau)

Excellent movie - first time I've seen it listed! I'm a big fan of Patrick Dewaere, lots of fine movies of the late 70s/early 80s.

"Série noire" and "A Bad Son" both remind me of "Buffalo '66"


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 16:05
I am not going to number and will sometimes vary from authors to individual books (for instance) and not in any definitive order and may come back as more come to mind and amend.  

Books:  Bambi (Felix Salten); Ray Bradbury; Ernest Seton Thompson; I Married Adventure (Osa Johnson); Tolkein; Joyce Carole Oates; Jerusalem (Alan Moore); The Morland Dynasty (Cynthia Harold Eagles); Ursula K. LeGuin; John Crowley; Thomas Hardy; Edward Gorey; Don Quixote (Miguel de Cervantes); Gravity's Rainbow (Thomas Pynchon); Gabriel Garcia Marquez; Stranger in a Strange Land (Robert A. Heinlein), And Ladies of the Club (Helen Hooven Santmeyer); Jack London; The Tin Drum (Gunter Grass); e e cummings; Clark Ashton Smith;John Steinbeck; It Happened in Boston? (Russel H. Greenan); The Secret Garden (Frances Hodgson Burnett); Thornton Burgess; Edgar Allen Poe; The Stand (Stephen King); Forever Amber (Kathleen Winsor); Lewis Carroll; O. Henry; Jane Austen; The Three Musketeers ( (Alexandre Dumas); William Shakespeare (well, plays); Harlan Ellison; T. W. White; Peter S. Beagle; Mark Twain (esp Letters From The Earth); Just So Stories; The Sparrow (Mary Doria Russell); Black Beauty (Anna Sewell); Dorothy Parker; Dune (Frank Herbert);Elizabeth Goudge; The Egg & I (Betty MacDonald) H. P. Lovecraft;  Albert Payson Terhune; Arthur C. Clark; Daphne Du Maurier; Lone Cowboy (Will James); Isaac Asimov, Richard Adams

Films:  Excalibur; LOTR Trilogy; The Gods Must Be Crazy; The Return of Martin Guerre; The Birds; Nosferatu; Aguirre, The Wrath of God; Meetings With Remarkable Men; Babette's Feast; 200 Motels; Beauty & The Beast (Jean Cocteau); MP's Holy Grail & Jabberwocky; 8 1/2; Casa Blanca; Romeo & Juliet (Zefferilli  version) The Red Balloon & White Mane; The Wizard of Oz; Tess; The Bad Seed; National Velvet; Manon of the Spring; all of The Marx Brothers films; Gone With The Wind; A Clockwork Orange; Bringing Up Baby; La Cage Au Folles; Head; Fantasia; The Turning Point; The House on Haunted Hill; Invaders from Mars; Whatever Happened To Baby Jane?;  Harold & Maude; To Kill A Mockingbird; The Ma & Pa Kettle films; 2001: A Space Odyssey; Brewster McCloud; Damn Yankees; The Ruling Class; Carmen (Carlos Saura's version); A Boy & His Dog

TV:  Upstairs, Downstairs; If These Walls Could Speak; Meeting of Minds; Steambath; Jeopardy!; Lost; Twin Peaks; The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour; In Living Color; X Files; Absolutely Fabulous, Quantum Leap; Pee Wee's Playhouse; Northern Exposure; Downton Abbey; Dark Shadows; Breaking Bad; The Tracy Ullman Show; The Twilight Zone; Fawlty Towers; Victoria; Fairy Tale Theatre; Early SNL; The Addams Family; MP's Flying Circus; Cooking shows and hard news.

Comedy:  Carol Burnett; Stephen Wright; The Smothers Brothers; Pee Wee Herman; George Carlin; The Firesign Theatre

Music:  Well, the obvious.  And: The Beatles, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, The Strawbs, ELP, Procol Harum, The Kinks,  Genesis (and solo efforts from Hackett, Phillips & Gabriel), Yes, Pink Floyd, Psychedelic Furs, Gentle Giant, Family, Camel, Frank Zappa, The Moody Blues, The Move, Loreena McKennitt, Dead Can Dance, Alan Stivell, The Pentangle (and solo efforts by Bert, John & Jacqui) , The Doors,  Fairport Convention, The Bonzo Dog Band, The Eurythmics, Athy the Electric Harper, Azam Ali, Owain Phyfe,  The October Project (and Mary Fahl solo), The US Kaleidoscope, Bob Dylan, Spirit, Deborah Henson Conant,   Renaissance (and Annie Haslam solo), Quicksilver Messenger Service, Jimmy Spheeris, Love, Pearl Jam, Van Morrison (esp Astral Weeks), Seckou Keita, Fever Tree, Phil Ochs, Incredible String Band, Leo Kottke,  Jefferson Airplane, Country Joe & The Fish, Pink Floyd, REM, Black Sabbath (and Bill Ward solo), Roy Wood, The Pretty Things (SF Sorrow period), Buffalo Springfield, Dan Hicks, Tim Buckley, CSN &Y, HP Lovecraft; Jefferson Airplane, Fever Tree, Pearls Before Swine, Marillion, iamthemorning, Lunatic Soul, Big Big Train, US Ars Nova, Riverside, Offa Rex, It's A Beautiful Day, Richard Thompson.  Favourite classical composers are Debussy, Holst, Stravinsky, Vaughn Williams.

Visual Artists:  The Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, Kay Nielsen, Salvador Dali, Walter Crane, Claude Monet, Leonardo DaVinci, Rembrandt, Edward Gorey, Durer, MC Escher, Maxfield Parrish, Georgia O'Keefe, Arthur Rackham; Psychedelic Era Poster Art (esp those that drew on Victorian themes)

All subject to addition.  Now I'm exhausted. Bet you are, too.  Smile





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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 17:43
Will only stay with recent stuff (30 years max)

Writers:
Jonathan Coe
Amélie Nothomb
Claude Courchay
William Deverell
and many more

Film authors:
Sean Penn,
Bacri/Jaoui,
Julio Medem,
Cédric Klapisch,
Tim Robbins,
Jaco Van Dormael,
John Malkowitch
Jim Jarmusch
Denis Arcand
Xavier Dolan
Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck
Peter Greenaway
Patrice Leconte
Claude Lellouch
Ken Singleton
Atom Egoyan

TV (not a big watcher):
WKRP In Cincinnati
Cheers
Sex In The City
Californication
Sons of Anarchy (first three seasons)
Vinyl (only one season, sadly)

Music:
go see my profile


Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 17:54
Author:
Terry Goodkind

Film directors:
Albert Pyun
Walter Hill
Sam Peckinpah
John Woo
Isaac Florentine.

Films:
Anything action, western, exploitation or horror in the 60/70/80/90's periods.

Also Hallmark Christmas movies (yes freaking really - so don't bother contacting me from November-first week of January each year when they're airing! )


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 18:19
Great idea for a topic, Logan.  Interesting how much in common and also where divergences occur, amongst those who've spoken up so far.  

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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 19:09
I'll go for five. I don't always feel confident in my choices when I go for bigger lists. 

Don't finish many novels. Wish I could, but they lose me pretty easily. I read a bit more poetry, though, so I'll list poets. 

Poets:
Rainer Maria Rilke
Donald Justice
John Berryman
Karen Volkmann 
Arthur Rimbaud

Films:
Solaris (Tarkovsky)
Persona (Bergman)
Winter Light (Bergman)
Play Time (Tati)
The Godfather (Coppola)

TV Shows (primarily anime; I watch TV regularly, but am regularly underwhelmed):
Hanamonogatari
Tatami Galaxy
Hyouka
Cowboy Bebop
Dark

Music:
Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
Olivier Messiaen - Poemes pour mi (orchestral)
Various Artists - Golden Rain
Lo Borges - A Via Lactea
Toru Takemitsu - Requiem


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 19:24
Great subject, impossible task, quite impossible.  Let's just say I love the arts. 
 
I do love reading everyone else's lists however.


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 19:49
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Great subject, impossible task, quite impossible.  Let's just say I love the arts. 
 
I do love reading everyone else's lists however.

I have never made so many edits, to add more beloved things.  I do hope more add visual arts as well.  It's been so fun reading these.


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 23:39
Novels:
the Rabbit series - John Updike
Time's Arrow - Martin Amis
the Trial - Franz Kafka
a Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man - James Joyce
the Outsider - Albert Camus
a Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess
the Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
Lord of the Flies - William Golding
Trainspotting - Irvine Welsh
Nausea - John Paul Sartre
Foucault's Pendulum - Umberto Eco

Plays:
Waiting for Godot (Samuel Beckett)
No Exit (Jean Paul Sartre)
Look Back in Anger (John Osbourne)
the Homecoming (Harold Pinter)

Films (director listed):
Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola)
Taxi Driver (Martin Scorcese)
Threads (Mick Jackson)
Life is Sweet (Mike Leigh)
Children of Men (Alfonso Cuaron)
the Exorcist (William Friedkin)
Sexy Beast (Jonathan Glazer)
O Lucky Man (Lindsay Anderson)
If (Lindsay Anderson)
Nightcrawler (Dan Gilroy)
the War Zone (Tim Roth)
Nil by Mouth (Gary Oldman)
the Picture of Dorian Gray (Albert Lewin)
Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer)
Donnie Darko (Richard Kelly) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uli_Edel" rel="nofollow -

TV Shows (writer/ creator listed):
Blackadder (Richard Curtis & Ben Elton)
Red Dwarf (Rob Grant & Doug Naylor)
NYPD Blue (Stephen Bochco & David Milch)
the Thick of It (Armando Iannucci)
Black Books (Graham Linehan & Dylan Moran)
Peep Show (Andrew O'Connor, Jesse Armstrong & Sam Bain)
Father Ted (Graham Linehan)
Spooks (David Woolstencroft)
the Fall (Allan Cubitt)
Only Fools and Horses (John Sullivan)
the IT Crowd (Graham Linehan)
Rab C Nesbitt (Ian Pattison)
the Simpsons (Matt Groening)
Ren & Stimpy (John Kricfalusi, Jim Smith, Bob Camp & Lynne naylor)

Music:
ELP
the Fall
Bartok
the Kinks
the Rolling Stones
Echo & the Bunnymen
the Cure
Arthur Brown
the Nice
Television
SAHB
the Go Betweens
King Crimson
the Monochrome Set



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 03 2019 at 06:49
interesting topic Greg.. and worthy of a bit of thought and not just my usual toss off trollish musings.  I'll have to think that over and come up with some lists later today. 

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 03 2019 at 07:19
Thanks, I hope everyone tries this. The lists can be as long or as short as one wishes.

It's interesting to see so much that I love in other people's lists. I was thinking to include Foucalt's Pendulum in my list as well as O Lucky Man (wish I had done twenty, would have included Delicatessen). I'm a huge O Lucky Man man, and I've rarely come across people who know it (more know If...). I can say that because in my forums life I've mentioned that film a lot. Everybody has mentioned things that I really like/ love.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 03 2019 at 09:00
hell not just lists Greg.. any monkey can throw sh*t on the wall.  Perhaps a bit of self reflection would be even more interesting...  

what does one think those choices and tastes say about yourself


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 03 2019 at 09:42
^ Indeed, that is of interest to me. For instance, I tend to be attracted to darker subject matter partially because I have a fairly bleak and pessimistic outlook (being rather disturbed myself, I appreciate the disturbing). Ideally, one's choices will "define" you somehow, or shed light on some aspect of your personality, and are deeply significant to you. A reason why, say, the Wicker Man (original) appeals to me so much is because of the alienation of the main character and that he does not "win" in the end (and Christopher Lee is always so cool and I have long had a particular interest in cults, part of me would like to join one). 1984 is bleak etc.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 03 2019 at 10:36
I too don't like endings to always be happy (@ Logan).  But, I do like to laugh and also have a dark sense of humour, so maybe that's another indication.  I like things to have depth and often don't find common humour funny at all (like most comedy films).  I tend to have huge gaps in years where I see no films at all and lived without tv for many years as well, so both of those areas are more sparsely populated.  I do love certain visual art, however, especially children's book illustrations such as those of Kay Neilsen and the like.  Culty, quirky things strike my fancy.  I have a long attention span, so long books, series, pieces of music are amongst my favourites.  I like puppies and kittens and long strolls at sunset on the beach.  LOL  And this topic.

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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: March 03 2019 at 13:07
I suppose a lot of my picks either forsake or subvert narrative structure and realism, music included, or are based on non-Western narrative structures and harmony. Many of them are appealing moreso in their stimulating visuals, sonics, use of imagery than in their narrative coherence. I like themes that deal with the mind (spirituality, dreams, memory, illusions, philosophy, psychology, breaks in realism that may be interpreted psychologically). Long walks on the beach, etc.

Don't know what that says about me. 


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 03 2019 at 17:25
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hell not just lists Greg.. any monkey can throw sh*t on the wall.  Perhaps a bit of self reflection would be even more interesting...  

what does one think those choices and tastes say about yourself

On the many film threads and various TV stuff threads, I have pretty much posted all I needed to. As far as "literature" (including poetry, theater and essays), my tastes are really wide and since I came from a house of 40K books of Portuguese, Brazilian and Spanish Literature (you can visit it in Lisbon DE!), it is really difficult to choose one thing ... there are way too many that stood out, including some very good translations into Portuguese of a lot of American things.

So, I stick with the no hits none of the time ... it's how the music we love came to be called "progressive" by folks that do not know anything but to be told by their social media and mold what to like because of some supposed numbers!


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 03 2019 at 22:39
^ Call me prescient.

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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 04 2019 at 03:24
I will try to cover all the various genres I have come across in all of these rather than my most favourite ones which might have more of a skew.  Just to represent my tastes better.  

Novels

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Childhood's End by Arthur C Clarke
Crime and Punishment by Dostoeyevsky
Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte
Catch 22 by Joseph Heller
Of Human Bondage by Somerset Maugham
Summer Lightning by P G Wodehouse
Murder of Roger Ackroyd by Agatha Christie
Rebecca by Daphne Du Maurier
Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde

Films

A Clockwork Orange by Stanley Kubrick
Network by Sidney Lumet
Casino by Martin Scorcese
Godfather by Francis Ford Coppola
The Fight Club by David Fincher
The Big Lebowski by Joel and Ethan Coen
Birdman by Alejandro Innaritu
Love Actually by Richard Curtis
Sense and Sensibility by Ang Lee
The Big Short by Adam McKay

TV shows

Boston Legal
Yes Minister
Big Bang Theory
Silicon Valley
Feud - Bette Davis/Joan Crawford
Big Little Lies
House of Cards
Mad Men
Succession
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

Music (bands/artists)

Ilayaraja
Beatles
King Crimson
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Alice in Chains
Stevie Wonder
Morbid Angel
Fiona Apple
Dave Brubeck
Radiohead



Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 04 2019 at 14:27
We've done these list things many times....but anything for Logan.  ;)
These are just off the top of my head......there are so many more...

Film:
Big Sleep
Casablanca
The Third Man
Dr Strangelove
North By Northwest
Vertigo
Body Heat
Chinatown
Altered States
Blade Runner
Alien
2001
Rio Brave
Goldfinger
The Godfather
Apocalypse Now
.....
Novels:
The Magus- John Fowles
Dune- Frank Herbert
Culture Series- Iaan Banks
3 Stigmata, Ubik, etc- P K Dick
Foundation- Asimov
9 Princes In Amber- Zelazny
Deptford Trilogy- Robertson Davies
Solaris- Lem
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy- Le Carre
Clockwork Orange- Burgess
The Crying of Lot 49 and V by  Pynchon
.......

TV:
The Pisoner
The Avengers
Outer Limits
Twilight Zone
MASH
Cheers/ Frasier
Big Bang Theory
X Files
Supernatural
Inspector Morse/ Lewis
Combat
Have Gun Will Tavel
...
Music:
King Crimson
Yes
Caravan
Hatfield
Steely Dan
Beatles
Stones
ELP
Jethro Tull
Led Zep
The Who
Neil Young
Coltrane
Mozart
Bach
Ralph Vaughan Williams
...

and so many others....












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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin


Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: March 04 2019 at 16:56
I'll stick to 10 per category. Of course these are constantly changing. Ask me again tomorrow and I would probably come up with a whole different list.

Books (not an avid reader I must confess)

Dracula (Bram Stoker)
Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep? (Philip K. Dick)
Moby Dick (Herman Melville)
Rosaura A Las Diez (Marco Denevi)
El Aleph (Jorge Luis Borges)
The Metamorphosis (Franz Kafka)
Wuthering Heights (Emily Brontë)
Solaris (Stanislaw Lem)
Frankenstein (Mary Shelley)
Animal Farm (George Orwell)

Film

Fanny And Alexander (Ingmar Bergman)
Bleu (Krzysztof Kieslowski)
Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders)
M (Fritz Lang)
Rashomon (Akira Kurosawa)
Citizen Kane (Orson Welles)
Barton Fink (Joel & Ethan Coen)
Happiness (Todd Solondz)
Rebecca (Alfred Hitchcock)
The Tree Of Life (Terrence Malick)

Music:

Genesis
Opeth
Echo & The Bunnymen
Talk Talk
Nick Drake
Portishead
Steven Wilson
Frank Zappa
Miles Davis
John Coltrane

Tv:

The Sopranos
Twin Peaks
Six Feet Under
The X Files
The Americans
Hannibal
Peep Show
Fargo
South Park
Curb Your Enthusiasm



Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2019 at 19:32
man I struggled with mine.... for a good reason.

Books movies... easy that sh*t is art.  Music though... ehhh.. not so fast.  Books and movies can entertain but they are best when the provoke you to think...  where i break with some/many, especially on this site, is music is not about stimulating the mind, it is about the heart and soul? Is that art?  Perhaps..   that is why I struggled with my list.  As such much more than with the other categories it really isn't a list of favories..  oh they are favorites of course.. but only when I feel the need or desire to have my heart and soul stimulated.. or more precisely refilled..  most of the time music for me is about emotional reinforcement.. 

if I am feeling pissed and angry...   my tastes will be far different and much less artistic than when I am feeling pensive or introspective.. if I am wanting something to get hot and jazzed up my tastes again will be far different ..

so sticking with the artistic theme here..  going with the pieces of music I do consider art.. they might not stimulate the mind.. I read f**king books when I want that.. but they do one thing much better than any other medium can do.. stimulate one's soul.. so I went with my favorites in that.. and went with specific pieces.. not merely groups or even albums.

Books.

1. The Foundation Trilogy - Issac Asimov

if there has been any book(s) that intellectually stimulated me.. it was reading these as a child.  

2. This Side of Paradise - F. Scott Fitzgerald

my bible as a lost 20 something after the Gulf War

3. The Road - Cormac McCarthy

the single most gut wrenching, powerful, and painful reading experience I've ever had. Only read it once... but it was enough.. but I will never EVER forget it or the feelings it provoked.  Amazing ...

4. World War Z - Clive Brooks

forget all the zombie bullsh*t..  the intellectual subtexts Brooks went into with this book and the various cultures were fascinating

5. The Stand - Stephen King

as Greg notes.. yeah perhaps a slight bend to the morbid and dark.. but god damn if this wasn't a fascinating read. The literary equivalent of Peckinpah it was (see below)

6.  The Ramayana - Valmiki

next to the Foundation series.. no book has made more of a life impression and even influenced my life more than this one did.

7.  To Kill A Mockingbird - Harper Lee

I love me southern literary works.. and you get into race.. oh yeah. One of the few mandatory readings we all had that really made an impression especially for me as I already had a strong passion and interest in racial inequalities.

8. Cross of Iron - Willie Heinrich

one of the very few books I have always had a copy of, since I first read it back in the 70's, replacing as need be when fallen apart or tossed into fireplaces by vindictive redheaded women.  Probably read it hundreds of times over the last 40 years.. and still never fails to make an impression. Much as the film (also see below) one of the most powerful anti-war novels ever written.

9. O Pioneers!- Willa Cather

a powerful portrait of frontier life in turn of the century America. Highly highly recommended if you haven't read it.  A portal back in time so to speak....

10. Starship Troopers - Robert Heinlein

Big smile

 

 

Movies

1. Doctor Zhivago  (1965) David Lean

good God almighty has there been a more perfect movie ever made..   no there has not. It had it all..

2. Blade Runner (1982) Ridley Scott

like many I rate this so very highly..   in large part to the final scene with Rudger Hauer which is IMO one of the the more powerful and soulful cinematic moments. If you can't relate to that.. you have no soul.

3. The Wild Bunch (1969) Sam ‘the f**king Man’ Peckinpah

speaking of art..  art can take many forms... here the master takes it where no one really had before..the beauty of violence ...the beauty of death. However while the film is canonized for its beginning and end.. you actually had a interesting morality tale in between the extreme (even to this day) cinematic violence that bookends it.

4. Melancholia (2011) Lars Van Trier

this movie...  simply blew me away from the first time I saw it.. which is a story in itself.. A WTF moment..  a personal movie that speaks to me on many levels.

5. The Thing (1982) John Carpenter

bah... perhaps no art here..  but can't not be a list of Mick movies..  'you have to be f**king kidding me' that scene alone gets you into the Mick top 5...

6. Once Upon a Time in America (1984) Sergio Leone

much as Cather's novel hit a nerve with a part of our history I have strong interest and affintiy towards.. so this gem which was such a vivid window into the world of early 20th century immigrants in America. 

7.  Cross of Iron (1977) Sam ‘you bet your sweet ass I made this list twice’ Peckinpah

'the best war film about the common ordinary enlisted man since All Quiet of the Eastern Front' Orson Wells

much different than the book.. but obviously packs more of punch visually in typical extreme violence Peckinpah style.. he might have only done one war film.. but the one the master did was one of the greatest and most powerful anti-war flims ever..

8.  The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert (1994) Stephan Elliot

oh my God...  we are talking art right...  well here we go... what a visually stunning movie and so good even the Spawn of Satan and I both loved this one.LOL

9. Deer Hunter (1978) Michael Cimino

so much to say about this one...  I'd need several paragraphs 

10. Leaving Los Vegas (1995) Mike Figgis

 the cinematic version of The Road...  umm hmmm...

 

Music

1. Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini - Sergei Rachmaninoff

so much to say about this one.. but I'll stick to ... '18th variation'.. perhaps the single most beautiful melody that human kind has ever created...  I listend to this last night while working up the list. .and goddamend... I went from crying tears of pure joy and emotion to nearly breaking my wrists pounding the table playing air piano like only Rachmaninoff can inspire

2. Dreams - The Allman Brothers

that guitar solo is hands down the single most breathtaking and emotional I've ever heard.  An emotional sauve.. that is what this song is for me

3. Cours d’Amours - Carl Orff

dear God...  ranking a close 2nd to #1 as perhaps the most beautiful melodies ever created by humankind... another one that if you have a dry eye after listening to it..  

you are soulless...

4. Sequenze e Frequenze - Franco Battiato

unlike the first 3 that are purely emotional experiences for me.. this one hit me so hard for being more introspective.. as I once said.. the best piece of music EVER for rainy days and Mondays haha

5. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed - The Allman Brothers Band

not just the best thing the Allmans ever did.. but the perfect fusion of rock and jazz. Instead of playing rock in a jazz format as so many did.. the ABB reversed the flow and did something that few attempted to do..and none did so well... playing jazz in a rock format. 

6. Glad -Traffic

a piece of music that has, ever since I first heard it, spoken directly to me in its dual themes.

7. Piano Concerto in Am Op. 16 - Edward Grieg

while I love the 2nd Rach..  for personal reasons and bad personal memories I associated with it...  this one might be my second favorite piano concerto. That opening...   blow thy speakers man...

8. Toccata - ELP

this is a prog site.. and I sort of hang out here and occasionally enjoy listening to it.. LOL so tossing a bone to the classic prog.  While Tales might be the pinacle of prog from an album standpoint..  Toccata was from a purely song standpoint...  

9.  Say What - Miles Davis

another piece of emotional art from me..

10. Chain Reaction/Quantum Physics - Can

and this one unlike most has not been a part of me for many years, many since I was a child but more a recent addition .. but much like the Battiato entry.. it is a incredible journey not into the heart and soul but a deeper place .. into the recesses of one mind and senses...

 

T.V

1. NYMFingPD Blue

Sipowicz..  'nuff said. The greatest TV show character.. EVER!!!!!!

2. MASH

I mean really...  if Doctor Zhivago had it all on the big screen... MASH had it all on the small screen..  well.. expect for Sipowicz.. which is why you are #2 haha

3. Frasier

one word.. Niles...

4. Sopranos

one word.. Tony

5. 3rd Rock From the Sun

one word.. John

6. Taxi

one word..  hahahhah

7. The Rockford Files

one word..  James

8. Dallas

one word..  J.f**king.R

9. Cheers

one word... CLIFF!!!

10 . Everybody Loves Raymond

not sure why .. but damnit.. I loved this show..




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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 04 2019 at 21:18
Well thought out, as usual, Micky.  You never disappoint.  And reminded me of a couple of things I have to go back and add in.  

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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 05 2019 at 06:19
It was worth the wait, thanks Micky, and thanks to everyone so far who has participated (I'd been hoping to do something with this data).


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 05 2019 at 06:50
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

man I struggled with mine.... for a good reason.

Books movies... easy that sh*t is art.  Music though... ehhh.. not so fast.  Books and movies can entertain but they are best when the provoke you to think...  where i break with some/many, especially on this site, is music is not about stimulating the mind, it is about the heart and soul? Is that art?  Perhaps..   that is why I struggled with my list.  As such much more than with the other categories it really isn't a list of favories..  oh they are favorites of course.. but only when I feel the need or desire to have my heart and soul stimulated.. or more precisely refilled..  most of the time music for me is about emotional reinforcement.. 

if I am feeling pissed and angry...   my tastes will be far different and much less artistic than when I am feeling pensive or introspective.. if I am wanting something to get hot and jazzed up my tastes again will be far different ..

so sticking with the artistic theme here..  going with the pieces of music I do consider art.. they might not stimulate the mind.. I read f**king books when I want that.. but they do one thing much better than any other medium can do.. stimulate one's soul.. so I went with my favorites in that.. and went with specific pieces.. not merely groups or even albums.

<p ="msonormal"="">Books.


<p ="msonormal"="">1. The Foundation Trilogy - Issac Asimov

<p ="msonormal"="">if there has been any book(s) that intellectually stimulated me.. it was reading these as a child.  


<p ="msonormal"="">2. This Side of Paradise - F. Scott Fitzgerald

<p ="msonormal"="">my bible as a lost 20 something after the Gulf War


<p ="msonormal"="">3. The Road - Cormac McCarthy

<p ="msonormal"="">the single most gut wrenching, powerful, and painful reading experience I've ever had. Only read it once... but it was enough.. but I will never EVER forget it or the feelings it provoked.  Amazing ...


<p ="msonormal"="">4. World War Z - Clive Brooks

<p ="msonormal"="">forget all the zombie bullsh*t..  the intellectual subtexts Brooks went into with this book and the various cultures were fascinating


<p ="msonormal"="">5. The Stand - Stephen King

<p ="msonormal"="">as Greg notes.. yeah perhaps a slight bend to the morbid and dark.. but god damn if this wasn't a fascinating read. The literary equivalent of Peckinpah it was (see below)


<p ="msonormal"="">6.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>The Ramayana -
Valmiki

<p ="msonormal"="">next to the Foundation series.. no book has made more of a life impression and even influenced my life more than this one did.


<p ="msonormal"="">7. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>To Kill A
Mockingbird - Harper Lee

<p ="msonormal"="">I love me southern literary works.. and you get into race.. oh yeah. One of the few mandatory readings we all had that really made an impression especially for me as I already had a strong passion and interest in racial inequalities.


<p ="msonormal"="">8. Cross of Iron - Willie Heinrich

<p ="msonormal"="">one of the very few books I have always had a copy of, since I first read it back in the 70's, replacing as need be when fallen apart or tossed into fireplaces by vindictive redheaded women.  Probably read it hundreds of times over the last 40 years.. and still never fails to make an impression. Much as the film (also see below) one of the most powerful anti-war novels ever written.


<p ="msonormal"="">9. O Pioneers!- Willa Cather

<p ="msonormal"="">a powerful portrait of frontier life in turn of the century America. Highly highly recommended if you haven't read it.  A portal back in time so to speak....


<p ="msonormal"="">10. Starship Troopers - Robert Heinlein

<p ="msonormal"="">Big smile


<p ="msonormal"=""><o:p> </o:p>


<p ="msonormal"=""><o:p> </o:p>


<p ="msonormal"="">Movies


<p ="msonormal"="">1. Doctor Zhivago<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> 
</span>(1965) David Lean

<p ="msonormal"="">good God almighty has there been a more perfect movie ever made..   no there has not. It had it all..


<p ="msonormal"="">2. Blade Runner (1982) Ridley Scott

<p ="msonormal"="">like many I rate this so very highly..   in large part to the final scene with Rudger Hauer which is IMO one of the the more powerful and soulful cinematic moments. If you can't relate to that.. you have no soul.


<p ="msonormal"="">3. The Wild Bunch (1969) Sam ‘the f**king Man’ Peckinpah

<p ="msonormal"="">speaking of art..  art can take many forms... here the master takes it where no one really had before..the beauty of violence ...the beauty of death. However while the film is canonized for its beginning and end.. you actually had a interesting morality tale in between the extreme (even to this day) cinematic violence that bookends it.


<p ="msonormal"="">4. Melancholia (2011) Lars Van Trier

<p ="msonormal"="">this movie...  simply blew me away from the first time I saw it.. which is a story in itself.. A WTF moment..  a personal movie that speaks to me on many levels.


<p ="msonormal"="">5. The Thing (1982) John Carpenter

<p ="msonormal"="">bah... perhaps no art here..  but can't not be a list of Mick movies..  'you have to be f**king kidding me' that scene alone gets you into the Mick top 5...


<p ="msonormal"="">6. Once Upon a Time in America (1984) Sergio Leone

<p ="msonormal"="">much as Cather's novel hit a nerve with a part of our history I have strong interest and affintiy towards.. so this gem which was such a vivid window into the world of early 20th century immigrants in America. 


<p ="msonormal"="">7.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Cross of Iron
(1977) Sam ‘you bet your sweet ass I made this list twice’ Peckinpah

<p ="msonormal"="">'the best war film about the common ordinary enlisted man since All Quiet of the Eastern Front' Orson Wells

<p ="msonormal"="">much different than the book.. but obviously packs more of punch visually in typical extreme violence Peckinpah style.. he might have only done one war film.. but the one the master did was one of the greatest and most powerful anti-war flims ever..


<p ="msonormal"="">8. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The Adventures of Priscilla
Queen of the Desert (1994) Stephan Elliot

<p ="msonormal"="">oh my God...  we are talking art right...  well here we go... what a visually stunning movie and so good even the Spawn of Satan and I both loved this one.LOL


<p ="msonormal"="">9. Deer Hunter (1978) Michael Cimino

<p ="msonormal"="">so much to say about this one...  I'd need several paragraphs 


<p ="msonormal"="">10. Leaving Los Vegas (1995) Mike Figgis


<p ="msonormal"=""><o:p> the cinematic version of The Road...  umm hmmm...</o:p>


<p ="msonormal"=""><o:p> </o:p>


<p ="msonormal"="">Music


<p ="msonormal"="">1. Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini - Sergei Rachmaninoff

<p ="msonormal"="">so much to say about this one.. but I'll stick to ... '18th variation'.. perhaps the single most beautiful melody that human kind has ever created...  I listend to this last night while working up the list. .and goddamend... I went from crying tears of pure joy and emotion to nearly breaking my wrists pounding the table playing air piano like only Rachmaninoff can inspire


<p ="msonormal"="">2. Dreams - The Allman Brothers

<p ="msonormal"="">that guitar solo is hands down the single most breathtaking and emotional I've ever heard.  An emotional sauve.. that is what this song is for me


<p ="msonormal"="">3. Cours d’Amours - Carl Orff

<p ="msonormal"="">dear God...  ranking a close 2nd to #1 as perhaps the most beautiful melodies ever created by humankind... another one that if you have a dry eye after listening to it..  

<p ="msonormal"="">you are soulless...


<p ="msonormal"="">4. Sequenze e Frequenze - Franco Battiato

<p ="msonormal"="">unlike the first 3 that are purely emotional experiences for me.. this one hit me so hard for being more introspective.. as I once said.. the best piece of music EVER for rainy days and Mondays haha


<p ="msonormal"="">5. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed - The Allman Brothers Band

<p ="msonormal"="">not just the best thing the Allmans ever did.. but the perfect fusion of rock and jazz. Instead of playing rock in a jazz format as so many did.. the ABB reversed the flow and did something that few attempted to do..and none did so well... playing jazz in a rock format. 


<p ="msonormal"="">6. Glad -Traffic

<p ="msonormal"="">a piece of music that has, ever since I first heard it, spoken directly to me in its dual themes.


<p ="msonormal"="">7. Piano Concerto in Am Op. 16 - Edward Grieg

<p ="msonormal"="">while I love the 2nd Rach..  for personal reasons and bad personal memories I associated with it...  this one might be my second favorite piano concerto. That opening...   blow thy speakers man...


<p ="msonormal"="">8. Toccata - ELP

<p ="msonormal"="">this is a prog site.. and I sort of hang out here and occasionally enjoy listening to it.. LOL so tossing a bone to the classic prog.  While Tales might be the pinacle of prog from an album standpoint..  Toccata was from a purely song standpoint...  


<p ="msonormal"="">9. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Say What - Miles
Davis

<p ="msonormal"="">another piece of emotional art from me..


<p ="msonormal"="">10. Chain Reaction/Quantum Physics - Can

<p ="msonormal"="">and this one unlike most has not been a part of me for many years, many since I was a child but more a recent addition .. but much like the Battiato entry.. it is a incredible journey not into the heart and soul but a deeper place .. into the recesses of one mind and senses...


<p ="msonormal"=""><o:p> </o:p>


<p ="msonormal"="">T.V


<p ="msonormal"="">1. NYMFingPD Blue

<p ="msonormal"="">Sipowicz..  'nuff said. The greatest TV show character.. EVER!!!!!!


<p ="msonormal"="">2. MASH

<p ="msonormal"="">I mean really...  if Doctor Zhivago had it all on the big screen... MASH had it all on the small screen..  well.. expect for Sipowicz.. which is why you are #2 haha


<p ="msonormal"="">3. Frasier

<p ="msonormal"="">one word.. Niles...


<p ="msonormal"="">4. Sopranos

<p ="msonormal"="">one word.. Tony


<p ="msonormal"="">5. 3rd Rock From the Sun

<p ="msonormal"="">one word.. John


<p ="msonormal"="">6. Taxi

<p ="msonormal"="">one word..  hahahhah


<p ="msonormal"="">7. The Rockford Files

<p ="msonormal"="">one word..  James


<p ="msonormal"="">8. Dallas

<p ="msonormal"="">one word..  J.f**king.R


<p ="msonormal"="">9. Cheers

<p ="msonormal"="">one word... CLIFF!!!


<p ="msonormal"="">10 . Everybody Loves Raymond

<p ="msonormal"="">not sure why .. but damnit.. I loved this show..






micky, did you also read the Mahabharata? If so, curious what kind of impression, if any, it left on you.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 05 2019 at 21:05
I begin now the list of my tastes.

Film director.

Italians:

1) Pasolini
2) Fellini
3) Rossellini
----
4) Elio Petri
5) Luchino Visconti
6) Gillo Pontecorvo
7) Francesco Rosi
8) Bernardo Bertolucci
9) Vittorio De Sica
10) Sergio Leone
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11) Ermanno Olmi
12) Nanni Moretti
13) Matteo Garrone
14) Paolo Sorrentino
15) Giuseppe Tornatore
16) Marco Tullio Giordana
17) Paolo e Vittorio Taviani.
18) Michelangelo Antonioni
19) Liliana Cavani
20) Mario Monicelli
23) Paolo Virzì
24) Carlo Verdone
25) Francesca Archibugi.






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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: March 06 2019 at 05:44
Books 

George Orwell-Animal Farm
Aldous Huxley-The Human Situation
Bruno Walter-Theme and Variations
Sir Thomas Beecham-A Mingled Chime
Michael Kater-The Twisted Muse
Erik Ryding and Rebecca Pechefsky-Bruno Walter-A World Elsewhere
Fred K. Preiburg-Trial Of Strength
Harvey Sachs-Toscanini

Film

Amadeus
Planet Of The Apes (1968)
Beneath The Planet Of The Apes
The Pianist
The Shawshank Redemption
Downfall
Logan's Run (1975)
2001-A Space Odyssey

Music

Triumvirat
Giger Lenz Marron
Dzyan
Colosseum
Passport
Anton Bruckner 
Hector Berlioz
Richard Strauss 
Gustav Mahler
Beethoven
Arnold Schoenberg
Pytor Tchaikovsky

TV

One Step Beyond
Star Trek (TOS)
Star Trek Continues
The Twilight Zone (original)
Whiz Quiz
The Beverly Hillbilies
Get Smart
Dragnet (original 50s)
Northwest Passage



Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 06 2019 at 09:23
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

^ Call me prescient.

Cheap psychic ... you had no details!

WinkTongue


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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 06 2019 at 09:42
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

...
Movies

1. Doctor Zhivago  (1965) David Lean

good God almighty has there been a more perfect movie ever made..   no there has not. It had it all..

2. Blade Runner (1982) Ridley Scott

like many I rate this so very highly..   in large part to the final scene with Rudger Hauer which is IMO one of the the more powerful and soulful cinematic moments. If you can't relate to that.. you have no soul.

3. The Wild Bunch (1969) Sam ‘the f**king Man’ Peckinpah

speaking of art..  art can take many forms... here the master takes it where no one really had before..the beauty of violence ...the beauty of death. However while the film is canonized for its beginning and end.. you actually had a interesting morality tale in between the extreme (even to this day) cinematic violence that bookends it.

8.  The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert (1994) Stephan Elliot

oh my God...  we are talking art right...  well here we go... what a visually stunning movie and so good even the Spawn of Satan and I both loved this one.LOL

9. Deer Hunter (1978) Michael Cimino

so much to say about this one...  I'd need several paragraphs 

...


Nice listing. THE WILD BUNCH is, likely one of the best "westerns" ever done. And the character definitions in it are amazing (Ernest Borgnine anyone?) 

Priscilla .... "ohh, wow ... my tits have fallen off!" And you go out laughing even more!

Cimino ... I also liked his HEAVEN'S GATE, and the DVD on it, seems to show/suggest that is stuff in there that is badly cut up, taking away the long bits that he had in DEERHUNTER and also on this film. The government corruption in the film's last part, is toned down by the cutting ... and I think the last line in the film is sad (probably not in the original script I bet!) ... excusing the genocide, and obvious murder attempt.

There are too many films in my listing ... and I love many of them for different reasons ... it's hard to not like Sven Nykvist, who made Ingmar Bergman look good, and later went on to gain an OSCAR. Visual clarity like no other. I love the way music is used in DR. ZHIVAGO, although he never really duplicated it in later films. The writing, in many of the Luis Bunuel films is fantastic ... THE DISCREET CHARM OF THE BOURGEOISIE ... is a perfect example as the film makes a loop through everyone's "head" ... and then the earlier stuff is just full of amazing stuff. Even his ROBINSON CRUSOE makes the remake a la Tom Hanks look silly, while Bunuel's was sort of ... wait a minute ... things don't happen that way ... VIRIDIANA, with the famous scene towards the end, and how things get that far ... is crazy ... as are many of the small bits and pieces in LOS OLVIDADOS ... things that you do not forget. Jean-Luc Godard, because he shows you how the Hollywood camera puts you to sleep with their mechanical shots and lack of "continuity" in a visual medium. Shots that don't make sense, like the shot/crossshot of a conversation ... how many people are you watching this? But the best of all is the pendulum shot in the bar, going away from the lovers ... it's exactly what you do in a bar!!!!!!! If that's not enough, try the backwards stuff in Weekend.

Stuff like this makes it hard to choose ... the nature of it all is so lively and real, that one is not seduced by the colorful background with the angled shot to make the face look better, kind of thing ... that for me, always appear to not be as "true" and helpful in terms of "accepting a story ..." like a book and such.


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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 06 2019 at 12:25
Films
  Clockwork Orange
  Pulp Fiction 
  Spartacus
  The Godfather
  Silence of the Lambs
  Blade Runner
  The Great Escape
  Alien/ Aliens 
  The Martian
  Inception  
  Apocalypse Now
  Monty Python & the Holy Grail

Music
  Yes
  Beatles
  Rush
  Allman Brothers
  Al Di Meola
  Genesis
  Zappa
  Grateful Dead
  Pink Floyd
  Rolling Stones
  Porcupine Tree
  Dire Straights
  The Who
  Police/ Sting
  Clapton (Cream/Blind Faith...)

T. V.
  Breaking Bad
  The West Wing
  Sons of Anarchy
  Game Of Thrones
  Shamless
  All in the Family
  Sopranos
  Dexter
  Star Trek
  Twilight Zone
  MASH
  Black Mirror
  
  
 


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2019 at 17:47
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:



oh man.. a big omission on my list...   how could I forget this one. Thanks Pedro for reminding me .. I owe you a Q of good high quality dope whenever we finally get a chance to meet.. and god help the town if that ever happens..

classic...



should have been ranked #3...  sorry Raymond..  but no Drew you were.. god almighty that might have been the funniest show EVER ...



not to mention the greatest show opening EVER!!!



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2019 at 18:01
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

 
micky, did you also read the Mahabharata? If so, curious what kind of impression, if any, it left on you.

Never did Madan..   the Ramayana was the gateway, my introduction...  but I had the Gita recommended to me after that (for obvious reasons I suppose).  After that I studied the Upanishads.. but never did make it to the Mahabarata in full as my life hit the wall about 90mph soon after and I suppose I never fully found all the pieces that wreck scattered about. 

I really should finally do that... especially as life has finally found a bit of peace and quiet and can fully digest it.


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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 07 2019 at 07:37
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

 
micky, did you also read the Mahabharata? If so, curious what kind of impression, if any, it left on you.

Never did Madan..   the Ramayana was the gateway, my introduction...  but I had the Gita recommended to me after that (for obvious reasons I suppose).  After that I studied the Upanishads.. but never did make it to the Mahabarata in full as my life hit the wall about 90mph soon after and I suppose I never fully found all the pieces that wreck scattered about. 

I really should finally do that... especially as life has finally found a bit of peace and quiet and can fully digest it.

Cool, was just very curious to see Ramayana mentioned without a mention of Mahabharata because people usually go on to read it as well after Ramayana.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 07 2019 at 08:42
Movie: My Cousin Vinny

Book: Les Aventures de Michel Risque

TV: La Petite Vie

Music: Phish

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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: March 07 2019 at 09:22

I'm freaked by how many novels I have in common with you guys.

In common with Logan-
- The Thee Stigmata of Palmer Eldtritch (Philip K. Dick)
- Mother Night (Kurt Vonnegut)
- Stranger in a Strange Land (Robert A. Heinlein)
- The Tin Drum (Günter Grass)
- Crime and Punishment (Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
- Infinite Jest (David Foster Wallace)
- Island (Aldous Huxley)
- Oryx and Crake (Margaret Atwood)
- 1984 (George Orwell)
- The Road (Cormac McCarthy)

All but two in common with Dark Elf
The Once and Future King - T.H. White
The Name of the Rose - Umberto Eco
The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit/The Silmarillion - J.R.R. Tolkien
Midnight's Children - Salman Rushdie
Ulysses - James Joyce
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain
I, Claudius - Robert Graves  ( Livia- favorite evil woman ever)
David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
To Kill A Mockingbird - Harper Lee
Watership Down - Richard Adams
Dune - Frank Herbert

All but two in common with Exitthelemming
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the Rabbit series - John Updike
the Trial - Franz Kafka
a Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man - James Joyce
the Outsider - Albert Camus
a Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess
the Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
Lord of the Flies - William Golding
Trainspotting - Irvine Welsh
Foucault's Pendulum - Umberto Eco

A few other Novels
Everything by Cormac McCarthy, Kurt Vonnegut,  Aldous Huxley, Virginia Wolfe, Joseph Conrad,
 DH Lawerance and and Joseph Heller

Kristin Lavransdatter by Sigrid Undset
Tom Jones by Henry Fielding
The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner
Native Son by Richard Wright
Studs Lonigan by James T Farrell
Bend in the River by V.S. Naipaul
all the Hyperion novels by Dan Simmons





Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 07 2019 at 17:39
Hi,

I was worried about the listing for Literature, and then music, since you all pretty much know my tastes in music, although some folks do not seem to understand, or get an idea that my tastes are so universal that it throws off folks that tend to list more "well known" stuff due to their fame, or pop/hit music levels.

Cervantes, would be in it, so would some Shakespeare and even Boccaccio ... not to mention Goethe and Hesse, and at least one French, and one of my favorites is Moliere, and his social and _______ commentaries everywhere. But then, there is one that is not usually mentioned, but the Marquis de Sade, is actually a very good writer, even if some think it is sad and sick! Doris Lessing is a novelist that I love to read also. Some of her works are just ... not only well written, they are the kind of stuff that you remember a long time.

A lot of the literature I like happens to be in theater ... Peter Weiss MARAT/SADE is probably the play I consider the best, and one that was quoted by the Beatles, Bonzo Dog Band, and many others, which kinda explains its incredible upheaval when it opened in London, and how shocking it was, and became. It was sort of pure psychedelia in the middle of all the rest. And you didn't need dope to appreciate it, although many people will get highly upset at the political and social commentaries in there. (paraphrasing ... I am a revolutionary with a vision ... and the reply is ... no you are not. You are another man with an idiotic vision that thinks he's better than anyone else!)(... and the acting, in the play ... a total wow!). Let's see ... Michel de Ghelderode is a fantastic playwright. Sam Sheppard is also a far out playwright. And there are some things from Japan that are also amazing ... and some films were made of many of them, and they deserve the mention and attention.


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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 07 2019 at 17:52
ehh...  literature and movies were easy .. it was music that was the hard one.  Then again Pedro I'd suspect you'd disagree with me on the artistic qualities of music. sure it exists.. but that really isn't what music is about. never has been.. never will be. sure it is great to see musicians try to bring all that high brow intellectual sh*t into music.. but ever since the dawn of time music has been not about artistic expression.. it isn't about stimulating the mind or the senses... but about emotional relation..  relating your emotions to the music..

that is why for me the music list was so hard..   I love so much music.. of so many styles.. and its artistic merits mean jack f**king sh*t to me.. it is all about how they related to me and my particular emotonal state..  it is like I said.. emtional reinforcemnt..  you want to get hot and revved up for a night out on the town.. do you put Rock Bottom on..   hell no.. unless you are a first class prog egghead.. for most normal people.  Music is all their emotional state of mind..  music they can relate to based on what they are feeling..


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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: March 07 2019 at 18:04
I've enjoyed reading all these, and hope this bump might enable others to contribute.


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https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition

https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 09 2019 at 19:38
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

   Renaissance (and Annie Haslam solo), 




Pretty late getting to this but do drop by if you like at the Renaissance Zone:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105220&PN=29" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105220&PN=29


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 09 2019 at 22:18
Will check it out, thank you



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Posted By: GreysOlive
Date Posted: March 10 2019 at 10:28
The Possession of Hannah Grace.
Not many films make me jump but this one did on a few occasions. I really enjoyed it.


Posted By: GreysOlive
Date Posted: March 12 2019 at 13:47
Instant Family 7/10

Thoight it would be a typical comedy but it was much more than that. Really good performances from Rose Byrne and Mark Walberg.



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