70s scifi concept album
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Topic: 70s scifi concept album
Posted By: rgodfrey53
Subject: 70s scifi concept album
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 09:05
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 11:15
I can't help but thinking of http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3070" rel="nofollow - 2112 : the concept of side 1, the time of release and the album cover match quite well with the description you give.
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 11:55
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 12:12
doesn't ring a bell off the top of my head... but if it comes to me and no one else has thought of it... I'll be sure to post it. Stupid question but one that must be asked..
have you checked the database.. sounds like a one off album and in the past we in the genre teams were particularly notorious for knowing, finding and eventually adding the very obscure to the database. You might find it there if you haven't looked already.
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 13:03
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 14:40
Mandalaband?
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 14:58
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 15:15
rgodfrey53 wrote:
Thanks. It definitely was a one-off. I'll see if I can find anything in the database. If I come across it I will post, but I would still appreciate any responses.
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you do have me curious... I may see if I can help find it for you. Perhaps knowing how to work the database better than you might. I'll post if I get a hit on anything.
hopefully like the last one we had here.. you haven't spent decades trying to find this You actually felt sorry for the guy...
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 15:20
Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 15:45
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 15:51
^ decades huh? Ouch.. been there with selling off the album collection.. at least yours went to a good cause.. like trying to survive... mine just went to finance my attempts at personal self destruction.
Keep the info coming... Sherlock MickBigDick is on the case.. I'll see if I can dust off my old research talents (been retired from the site for some years) and see if I can help find it. You did tickle my curiosity.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 16:00
god DAMN am I good.. oh I am... but I think I found it... let me get the info and see if this was it..
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 16:03
nope.. that wasn't it... darn... back to it. Had the cover and a 'corporate' sounding name.. and late 70's to fit the timeframe... but it was some fking Xmas album and I don't think that is what you are looking for haha
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 16:11
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 16:15
micky wrote:
^ decades huh? Ouch.. been there with selling off the album collection.. at least yours went to a good cause.. like trying to survive... mine just went to finance my attempts at personal self destruction. |
You can never have enough beer nuts.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 16:16
yeah... sorry about that. next time I'll say something only when sure. I've gone through the English labels, large and small that I know of from back then, and haven't seen anything that fits. You say you think this could have been a french or german release or are you pretty much certain it was an english release.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 16:28
My competitive juices are flowing and if there is one thing I hate doing...is losing. I am a worse loser than I am a winner. So I'm going to keep at this this evening however...
another thing or avenue you might consider.. go to the single smartest and most knowledge man in existence when it come to prog rock.
he is also a real sweetheart of a man..ie you wouldn't be putting him out by asking and has helped me find and get the obscure and the rare many times. If there is anyone would might recognize it even from the little you are giving to go on he might...
Try Greg Walker over at Symphonic Records.. I suppose this is only stage 1 of your battle.. stage 2 would be finding it if you can and he might be able to help with both.
http://synphonicmusic.com" rel="nofollow - http://synphonicmusic.com
his email is at the bottom of that page. Do let us know if you do find it before any of us might.
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 16:31
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 16:49
Just spitballing here, a couple unlikely possibilities with the criteria you mention ~
Down in the Park - 1979, by Tubeway Army w/ Gary Numan "Lyrically the song crystallized the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystopian" rel="nofollow - dystopian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction" rel="nofollow - science fiction concept that was the basis of the Replicas album. Heavily influenced by such writers as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.G._Ballard" rel="nofollow - J.G. Ballard and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick" rel="nofollow - Philip K. Dick , it tells the story of a futuristic park in which Machmen ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28robot%29" rel="nofollow - androids with human skin) and machines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape" rel="nofollow - rape
and kill human beings to entertain spectators who, along with their
numerically-named robotic "friends" ("Down in the Park, with a friend
called Five"), view the carnage from a nearby club (Zom Zoms) ".
Blows Against the Empire - 1970, A collaboration of Paul Kantner, Jerry Garcia, CSN and others
"The album is a narrative concept album that tells the story of a
counter-culture revolution against the oppressions of "Uncle Samuel" and
a plan to steal a starship from orbit and journey into space in search
of a new home. The original vinyl release is divided into two album
sides".
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:01
^ his original LP was an 'import' David.
which gave me an idea... I remember having a mid 70's import stamped copy of Bo Hansson's Lord of the Rings. Needless to say when I needed the need to try kill myself more than listen to that absolute gem of an album... it got offloaded..and I got loaded hahah
but later I did manage to find it on CD.. which gave me a clue to look. For old 'import' LP's reissued later on CD.
I am getting some interesting hits based on this CD label. Krautrock related.. is a VERY broad term to a very broad genre.
let me post this link and perhaps you might recognize it ... you can narrow it down to jazz, or elecronic.. again.. Krautrock is a very broad diverse sounding genre
http://www.discogs.com/label/84794-One-Way-Records-6?page=1&genre=Rock&limit=100&sort=year&sort_order=asc" rel="nofollow - http://www.discogs.com/label/84794-One-Way-Records-6?page=1&genre=Rock&limit=100&sort=year&sort_order=asc
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:05
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:06
micky wrote:
^ his original LP was an 'import' David. | True but memory is a funny thing and tends to fill in gaps caused by time. Maybe it was an import and maybe not, but I do hope he finds it. I love a good mystery.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:09
me too... I almost want to find this almost as much as he does
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:12
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:14
I'll drink to that
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:15
Can you believe Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds has sold well over 2 and a half million copies in the UK ? It's the 40th best seller in UK history. Incredible.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:17
Atavachron wrote:
Can you believe Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds has sold well over 2 and a half million copies in the UK ? It's the 40th best seller in UK history. Incredible.
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i knew it was quite popular there... but that popular?.. nope .
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:29
rgodfrey53 wrote:
It was definitely an import, not shrink-wrapped but in a plastic sleeve, purchased at Record Hole or Sound Warehouse in San Antone. Both had great import sections, and both now sadly gone. A few of the old neurons are still firing! |
You said "Various"...do you recall any of the artists/players that were on it?
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:34
Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:37
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:40
thanks.. I'l pick up from there tomorrow and take the KR muso angle most band had come apart by that time so that would make sense.. the easy part if you will is it had to be big enough of a name/project for an album to make it all the way across the pond. My thinking is something perhaps with Czukay. That is where I will pick it the hunt tomorrow!
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:48
micky wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
Can you believe Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds has sold well over 2 and a half million copies in the UK ? It's the 40th best seller in UK history. Incredible.
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i knew it was quite popular there... but that popular?.. nope . |
I wonder if it has sold more copies than Tubular Bells over there.
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:53
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:56
^ But let's face it: concept albums are silly, juvenile, outdated and frankly dull-as-hell formats. It's a fun idea, but no one wants to sit through an hour or more of bad literature and retarded poetry. Give us some friggin songs.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:59
hahaha.. well I think it is safe to safe your pain is now OUR pain... we will find it. I have no doubts of that... plus i did go back through the datasbase and this one has likely escaped the site, or i know know my cantankerous French KR-specialist ex-collabs stick up their asses chickens well.. it simply wasn't 'prog' enough for their sensibilities so the damn album never got added. We'll fix that umm hmm..
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 17:59
Atavachron wrote:
^ But let's face it: concept albums are silly, juvenile, outdated and frankly dull-as-hell formats. It's a fun idea, but no one wants to sit through an hour or more of bad literature and retarded poetry. Give us some friggin songs.
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Ah, but they had their moments!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 18:00
Atavachron wrote:
^ But let's face it: concept albums are silly, juvenile, outdated and frankly dull-as-hell formats. It's a fun idea, but no one wants to sit through an hour or more of bad literature and retarded poetry. Give us some friggin songs.
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one could say the same of prog rock in general you know
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 18:04
And I miss that time. Can you imagine A Passion Play being number 1 on the Billboard charts?? Nuts!
It is hard to imagine that the planet we currently live on once tightly embraced Jethro Tull's sixth
studio LP, warmly receiving it and anticipating the rapture of rock musicians who had gone
completely off the deep end, way past the line of reasonable behavior. But people loved it. At
least for awhile. The overindulgence, ambition for ambition's sake, limitless opportunities, all
part of what modern rock had become. A Passion Play reached #1 in the U.S. in 1973. Let me
say that again: number one on the charts. The Billboard charts. In America. It's almost beyond belief. Okay maybe the record was feeding on the fresh and beloved coattails of
its famous predecessor. Maybe the time was perfect to sell a new Jethro Tull album, and perhaps
people were just too stoned to notice anything wrong. But the funny thing is, Passion Play
is extraordinary. The people who bought it were right. They realized what a wonderful
offering it really was, and what a wonderful time it represented. You'll forgive me if I
romanticize things a bit-- at the time this was simply Jethro Tull's new record. But in hindsight
it is much more. It is, in a way, progressive rock's greatest love letter, and also it's saddest
Dear John. Ian Anderson has expressed his misgivings about the release - indeed approaching it as a spoof, a
tongue-in-cheek response to the concept album - and his desire to oblige naysayers by stripping down
the material on subsequent Tull issues, breaking apart his music into more digestible pieces as
evidenced on the next, the great but conspicuously abbreviated Warchild. It all worked out
for the best, I suppose, with a slew of topnotch things to follow including bonafide Prog classics
as Minstrel in the Gallery, Songs From the Wood, and Heavy Horses. But it all just
makes this one that much more special, and an important if ironic marker for the movement. If you
liked Passion Play you were pretty much ready for anything. Cardiographic noises and a din of
instruments overtures as the sprawl gradually unfolds, Anderson establishing the 'story' here of a
man recently deceased. There are few landmarks to grasp hold of. As much an assortment of
interconnected themes as one long two-part opus, the disparate parts ingeniously sewn together so
that things shift too frequently to bore and if you don't like what you're hearing, wait 30 seconds.
What we got with A Passion Play was the glory of the unintended; a joke turned darkly and
brilliantly serious by the end; a band fooled by its own muses into doing God's work, giving the
world a piece of music so great it was hard to see. John Evan's organ and synth grind the mulch,
Barriemore Barlow's drums work warmly and unobtrusively with Jeffrey Hammond's
bass (who also lends his voice to the histrionic and pouffy 'The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles').
Musical quotes from previous Thick as a Brick appear, Anderson's sax as delightful a lead
instrument as his lithe baroque guitar, and tasty riffs from Marty Barre throughout. Make no mistake, the record is full of terrific music as good as anything they'd ever done. But
here you have to sit down and listen. You have to listen carefully, or it'll all be over before you
realize what's happening. Too long and involved? No I don't think so. You can say that about
Tales From Topographic Oceans if you want, but not this. A Passion Play was a
creative triumph if a public relations nightmare, and we are truly lucky to have it.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 18:08
now that is an album I do need to revisit....
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 18:58
It was a great time and a wonderful tour behind A Passion Play. Saw it at the fabulous Forum in Los Angeles.And I remember it being played on LA radio in it's entirety upon release.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 21:22
Atavachron wrote:
^ But let's face it: concept albums are silly, juvenile, outdated and frankly dull-as-hell formats. It's a fun idea, but no one wants to sit through an hour or more of bad literature and retarded poetry. Give us some friggin songs.
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Congratulations. With one fell swoop you insulted not just war of the worlds but also Tommy, Lamb, Topographic, Days of Future Passed, Thick as a brick, Passion Play, Six Wives, Journey to the center of the earth, Myths and Legends, The Wall, Animals, Dark side of the Moon, almost every Alan Parsons Project Album and probably countless others.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 22:12
I'm funny that way.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 25 2018 at 23:52
Snicolette wrote:
It was a great time and a wonderful tour behind A Passion Play. Saw it at the fabulous Forum in Los Angeles.And I remember it being played on LA radio in it's entirety upon release. | Lucky duck (erm, swan). First Tully I saw was for... wait for it... Under Wraps ! That's right, my virgin JT experience was with an odd and patchy little LP, and they weren't real keen on doing oldies that night the little bast*rds. Later tours were better, CoaK was excellent and Rock Island and the Anniversary tour were both very good.
Hmm, the L.A. Forum? Huge place, saw AC/DC and Yngwie Malmsteen there in '86 .
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Posted By: orac
Date Posted: November 26 2018 at 02:34
Hi
Could it be this? Gammapolis by Hungarian band Omega.There's an English and a Hungarian version. Good album too!
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: November 26 2018 at 05:11
Omega ? They're the last band I would have thought of...
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 26 2018 at 05:18
Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 26 2018 at 05:25
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: November 26 2018 at 06:38
Atavachron wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
It was a great time and a wonderful tour behind A Passion Play. Saw it at the fabulous Forum in Los Angeles.And I remember it being played on LA radio in it's entirety upon release. | Lucky duck (erm, swan). First Tully I saw was for... wait for it... Under Wraps ! That's right, my virgin JT experience was with an odd and patchy little LP, and they weren't real keen on doing oldies that night the little bast*rds. Later tours were better, CoaK was excellent and Rock Island and the Anniversary tour were both very good.
Hmm, the L.A. Forum? Huge place, saw AC/DC and Yngwie Malmsteen there in '86 .
| Yes, it is big...among the many venues of LA, one of the largest we regularly went to. Loved the Shrine Auditorium, Long Beach Auditorium and Santa Monica Civic when we could see bands in the smaller ones and the Long Beach Fox (I think Fox) Theatre put on quite a few good shows as well. I saw JT first on their Aqualung tour and did see the Anniversary tour, which was very good, in agreement there.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: November 26 2018 at 06:40
rgodfrey53 wrote:
My first Tull concert was the Thick as A Brick tour, performed in its entirety, with the entire Aqualung album as an encore. Amazing. And I'll never forget the forty foot tall Ian Anderson, although that bit may have been chemically inspired.
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Posted By: cedo
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:00
Hello! Allow me join the search...sometimes time mix our memories... Intergalactic Touring Band has back cover with exact picture that is looked for, logo of company on dark surface in 3D, maybe it was something you remember of?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:04
I do but I don't have a copy or have more than a vague memory of it...
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:24
cedo wrote:
Hello!Allow me join the search...sometimes time mix our memories... Intergalactic Touring Band has back cover with exact picture that is looked for, logo of company on dark surface in 3D, maybe it was something you remember of? |
Here is a description of the album: https://web.archive.org/web/20110816214104/www.kongaloid.org/igtb/igtb.html" rel="nofollow - https://web.archive.org/web/20110816214104/http://www.kongaloid.org/igtb/igtb.html
Clicking on More Images, you can see the back cover here: https://www.discogs.com/Intergalactic-Touring-Band-The-Intergalactic-Touring-Band/release/1561776" rel="nofollow - https://www.discogs.com/Intergalactic-Touring-Band-The-Intergalactic-Touring-Band/release/1561776
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Posted By: cedo
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:24
this is link (if I properly entered it, don't know how to place a picture) https://www.discogs.com/Intergalactic-Touring-Band-The-Intergalactic-Touring-Band/release/1708951#images/18815313" rel="nofollow - https://www.discogs.com/Intergalactic-Touring-Band-The-Intergalactic-Touring-Band/release/1708951#images/18815313
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:26
To tide you over perhaps...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SyxYLxJJ34
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:30
Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 06:34
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 07:09
Hi,
Not worth checking or going after it ... I looked at my collection and thought of Nektar (Recycled) and then Seventh Wave (Things to Come) ... and then ... just went back to listening to Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream ... even checked Larry Fast ... but thought it might be too far out. Then I wondered about Yellow Magic Orchestra but that was way too far out in left field.
The whole question was way too generic and meaningless for me ... even The Cosmic Couriers were a "concept", even though it is now written that it was so because they were all too stoned to know the difference, but none of them admit that the music that came out of it was neat and well done. And very nice to listen to. Quite enjoyable ... but telling folks that it was not a "trip" is bad and deflects the idea of what a "trip" can be for anyone else.
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 07:33
Posted By: cedo
Date Posted: November 27 2018 at 08:16
Slartibartfast wrote:
To tide you over perhaps...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SyxYLxJJ34
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Well, I had to check up what "to tide somebody over" means...English is not my mother tongue... To maintain, sustain, or support someone through a lean or difficult time until more of something is acquired OK, I got it...I'm listening to tSJ5 now...still I'm listening to...well, I finished... Interesting, but not quite my cup of tea...I liked more instrumental parts than vocal parts. Nice artwork, NASA illustrations...and yes, NASA InSight lander landed successfully last night on Mars, well done, InSight! Here is something in return, from past times, from this part of world, fusion or jazz-rock with ethnic elements (the group name "Leb i sol" means "Bread and Salt"). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwVye2jnBU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwVye2jnBU Best regards!
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Posted By: Braka
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 02:08
Dark album cover from mid to late 70's with a kind of 3D logo... it'd better not be 'Godbluff'
How did you work out the concept of the mega corporation that had taken over the world/universe? Was this from some actual text somewhere on the album cover, or was it more like you intuited it from the artwork and/or title?
How high is your degree of confidence that it was Various Artists?
Is there one or more aspects of your memory which stand out as particularly salient - that you are more confident about than the others?
This would have come out right when I was discovering non-mainstream music and prog, and it sounds so much like something I would have paid attention to. It's hard for me to believe I missed it unless it was very obscure. But I bet lots of people feel exactly the same way about this...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 02:11
^ No, you're our best bet at this point. Go for it, dude!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 02:52
Atavachron wrote:
Blows Against the Empire - 1970, A collaboration of Paul Kantner, Jerry Garcia, CSN and others
"The album is a narrative concept album that tells the story of a
counter-culture revolution against the oppressions of "Uncle Samuel" and
a plan to steal a starship from orbit and journey into space in search
of a new home. The original vinyl release is divided into two album
sides". |
That was my first thought, along with Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come' Galactic Zoo Dossier
And both of their bigger/smaller sister would also qualify: - Paul & Grave's Sunfither (both Empire and this one could be included in PA, for that matter, as would be Tollboth & Chrome Nun
- AB's KC: Journey
Atavachron wrote:
^ But let's face it: concept albums are silly,
juvenile, outdated and frankly dull-as-hell formats. It's a fun idea,
but no one wants to sit through an hour or more of bad literature and
retarded poetry. Give us some friggin songs.
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I'd agree that very few concepts are really worth sitting though in one session, especially if a double album (even for The Lamb, The Wall, Tommy or Quadrophenia)
One notable exception is the mother of all concepts, Brick
(and please don't come with APP's early stuff, either)
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Posted By: Braka
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 04:44
Atavachron wrote:
^ No, you're our best bet at this point.
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Well, we're in trouble then :)
No, I can think of albums which tick some of the boxes, but not all of them. I've tried, but I don't think I'm going to come up with anything more unless the OP can think of something else to refine the search.
After my own memory and search attempts didn't produce a clear candidate I looked at the 'various artists - concept albums' section here on pa, which revealed nothing close, so I'm guessing it's either a) not prog, b) not various artists, or c) very obscure.
Any chance it was a soundtrack album?
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 05:26
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 13:35
rgodfrey53 wrote:
One clue that may narrow it down: I now recall that I purchased it while living in an apartment I rented from 76 to 79, and was a fairly current release when I bought it. I thought there might be one Prog fanatic out there who may have bought it, but maybe not. |
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 14:04
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 14:45
It turns out that it this obscure album is in truth, a historical artifact from an alternate future world, ravaged by the corporation documented in the album. It was an attempt by the descendants of the corporation's founder to warn the founder of the havoc his company will eventually wreak upon the world. Historical records had identified the founder to be a fan of progressive rock music so the artifact was sent to a store the founder had frequented as a youth. Unfortunately, due to a miscalculation of the time he would be entering the store, the original poster of this thread had found and purchased the album. Thus, we are on a path for this unfortunate future as documented by this obscure one-off album.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 14:50
^ As usual PA is at the forefront of disastrously inconsequential events.
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 14:54
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 16:40
haven't had any luck yet.. but still digging...
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 17:52
micky wrote:
haven't had any luck yet.. but still digging... |
"We're going to need a bigger shovel."
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Posted By: Braka
Date Posted: November 30 2018 at 09:55
mathman0806 wrote:
It turns out that it this obscure album is in truth, a historical artifact from an alternate future world, ravaged by the corporation documented in the album. It was an attempt by the descendants of the corporation's founder to warn the founder of the havoc his company will eventually wreak upon the world. Historical records had identified the founder to be a fan of progressive rock music so the artifact was sent to a store the founder had frequented as a youth. Unfortunately, due to a miscalculation of the time he would be entering the store, the original poster of this thread had found and purchased the album. Thus, we are on a path for this unfortunate future as documented by this obscure one-off album. |
Thanks, Sandy. I suspected you were only dead in a random access sort of way.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 05:30
Anybody mentioned the 1976 album Marscape? Not quite the diabolical corporations theme, but look at the lineup of British musicians:
- Jack Lancaster / Lyricon, saxophone, flutes, watergong - Robin Lumley / piano, harmonium, synthesizers, autoharp, Hammond organ - John Goodsall / guitars - Percy Jones / bass, electronic percussion, watergong - Phil Collins / drums, percussion - Bernie Frost / voices - Simon Jeffes / koto - The Simon Jeffes Sring Quartet
The things Phil was able to get up to while Genesis reeled from Peter's departure!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 05:44
way to go Drew!!!! It does fit his original notion that it might have been english... and a one off concept/corporation them... fits all but his memories of the cover itself. Has the big names that would have meritted an import album into the states during a time when that music wasn't 'cool'.
we shall see? Like David.. I love a good mystery haha.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 06:40
Hi,
Absolutely Elsewhere -- In Search of Ancient Gods ... which had Bill Bruford in it, and was a super nice album ... but as much as it might have been a "concept" based on that one guy's ideas and book ... one of the early new age goop books, but what the heck.
It's best feature was that it had the sounds of "space wind" that NASA had provided at that time, to impress us with their technology of sound in different levels of the spectrum.
It still is, for me, a very nice album ... and I kinda thought that a lot of reviews, trying to make this album this or that, or even "sounding like" ... really missed the mark altogether.
The album did not get a lot of airplay as far as I know, except on Space Pirate Radio where a few copies were worn down quite a lot. BUT, to this day, reviews of this album, still miss the mark, and can only compare it to something else ... I had to tell a friend of mine to go review ASIA instead and compare it to Genesis, Yes and Elp!
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 06:47
Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 06:54
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 06:58
Sean Trane wrote:
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NP: Have You Seen The Saucers? (... super progressive rock thing!)
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 12:20
Another suggestion that doesn't quite meet the parameters but, heck, what the heck:
Zyma Thoughts.
1978. Labeled "Canterbury"--which could give it British aspersions--but it's not a one off, and not really an all-star band or various artist concoction, and not really themed around corporate world takeover, and certainly not too obscure, but does have the black album cover with logo and song titles like "Businessman" "Thoughts" etc.
Just a long shot (to stay in the game!)
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 12:51
moshkito wrote:
Absolutely Elsewhere -- In Search of Ancient Gods ... which had Bill Bruford in it, and was a super nice album ... but as much as it might have been a "concept" based on that one guy's ideas and book ... one of the early new age goop books, but what the heck. |
Not to be "that guy," but it's Absolute Elsewhere — and yes, I dig it.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 15:40
damnit.. forget the bigger shovel.. time for some explosives!!! woo hoo
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Posted By: The Stygian Heresy
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 16:43
Here's something that's worked for me, before: Go to discogs.com. Set your search parameters to the year, style, and format (such as vinyl). Go to town. If you have a fast 'net connection, it may take a few hours, but will be well worth it should your long-lost album show up. If nothing shows, try the same on RateYourMusic.com. Granted, it's all gigo, so if no one's entered the info, it won't be there; but I've found ultra obscure items on both those 'sites, all day long. Best wishes in the search; and I am sure interested to know what this thing is, too! Cheers, Mark
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 17:10
A few hours with fast internet? You can go on a day trip and come back.
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 19:07
Phenomena..? which was '80s but just in case...
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 01 2018 at 19:18
uduwudu wrote:
Phenomena..? which was '80s but just in case... |
Phenomena the band-collective? Yes, '80s.
Also the title of an '80s Dario Argento film (that starred Jennifer Connelly), with music by Claudio Simonetti, Goblin (as Fabio Pignatelli & Claudio Simonetti), Bill Wyman and Simon Boswell.
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: December 02 2018 at 05:40
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 02 2018 at 07:52
Still racking my brain--throwing out longshots:
Patrick Moraz's The Story of I ?
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: December 02 2018 at 08:37
Posted By: Turbocb
Date Posted: December 02 2018 at 20:50
I may be soooo off but I keep thinking of The Iron Man: The Musical by Pete Townshend
I'm probably way off...
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: December 03 2018 at 05:10
Posted By: Turbocb
Date Posted: December 03 2018 at 10:59
Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: December 03 2018 at 12:06
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 04 2018 at 06:51
Hi,
KLAATU
(but it might be a bit ... way out there!), Not even sure it is considered "progressive" but it was a very nice album!
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: December 04 2018 at 07:25
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 04 2018 at 08:01
Good point about Klaatu's first two, though the first one I wouldn't consider a concept album, despite the some of the songs' names (Interplanetary craft, Uranus, Neutrino, etc...)
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 04 2018 at 19:15
I'm thinking that this album saw such limited release, perhaps only in the local market of the OP, that it might not even be googlable, or at least you could pretty much only find it by name. Have you tried a geographically based forum?
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Posted By: rgodfrey53
Date Posted: December 05 2018 at 05:14
Posted By: Turbocb
Date Posted: December 05 2018 at 11:46
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 05 2018 at 12:22
^ Srsly?
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 05 2018 at 12:25
rgodfrey53 wrote:
Yes, I agree that it may have been a very limited release. Because of the emergence of punk in the mid-seventies, and then the emergence of much more interesting post-punk around 1977, innovative prog was seeing fewer and fewer releases by this time, many quite limited. And yes, Google is useless. I have searched various websites and forums over the years. I thought casting a wider net with this general discussion forum might reach some old prog-head out there who may have picked it up, or a younger prog-head who might have stumbled upon it in a used vinyl bin, but it's starting to seem unlikely. But not impossible. My search continues.
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You might as well try posting your question on the Progressive Ears forum as well. There is some overlap of posters with this place, but also some very knowledgeable people who don't post here.
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