Rubbish last tracks....
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Topic: Rubbish last tracks....
Posted By: M27Barney
Subject: Rubbish last tracks....
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 04:56
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I am nominating "it" from the lamb....very poor track...doesn't seem to fit with the album at all....think how much better it could have been with a proper epic as a finale... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 07:41
| love the song---album is a mix of heavy topics and humor---IMO it had to end on a funny note---making fun of themselves and us the listener is a smart point to make---and Hackett guitar riff is very cool. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 10:05
Speaking of Genesis, F You F Me...what a way to ruin an overall really good album  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 11:04
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I don't mind throwaway songs at the end of albums. I do get annoyed by the "secret bonus tracks" that some bands (or producers) stick on the end of CDs. The last song ends, and there's still 10 minutes ticking away on the player. After a long silence, a song, or often a senseless sound collage starts. I don't mind the extra music (even if it's not quite music) but making us wait to hear it is obscene. The only gimmick in that vein I appreciate is the Monty Python LP "Matching Tie & Handkerchief", that had 2 sets of grooves on one side, so you could play the album and miss a complete side of the LP, or play it a second time, and think you had a different album. That was clever. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 11:06
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Are You Ready Eddie? from ELP's Tarkus is an obvious candidate |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 11:39
I can see why people don't like that track, but I'd take it over any 80's or later Genesis track. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
SouthSideoftheSky wrote:Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 11:42
| Voivod ending/ruining the CD-version of the concept-album Dimension Hatröss with a totally pointless version of the Batman-theme. |
Posted By: KeyserSoze
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 12:11
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I consider "it" as a great closing track to my favourite Genesis album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/mhron/?chartstyle=artists" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 13:03
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Never liked the way they tacked on Her Majesty after The End on Abbey Road. A short, worthless little ditty that somewhat detracts from the timeless message the parting Beatles instilled in their listeners. Legend has it that it was a mistake that it was included in the final mix. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 13:27
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Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant - "The Queen": I would have rather it ended with "Why Not?". They probably thought that it would be a cool and fun way to end the album, but to me it's lame and too gimmicky. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 13:48
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 14:01
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Thank You on Bursting at the Seams by Strawbs. An excellent album, but that track stinks. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 16:15
| The end of "Heart of the Sunrise" when it stops, and after a few seconds, you hear "We Have Heaven" again. Not that I don't like it, but it ends the album and the song in a weird way, at lest to my ears. What is the purpose of doing that remains a mystery to me. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 17:10
This! ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: For Nobody's Bush
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 18:15
| I would second 'It' from Lamb lies Down. I remember a critic raving about it once and I remember thinking that he must be crazy. |
Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 18:30
It was originally part of the medley that fell between Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam, which you can hear because the first hit of Her Majesty is the last chord from Mean Mr. Mustard. Paul McCartney didn't like it and instructed the engineer to destroy the tape, but it was studio/label (can't remember which) policy that Beatles recordings weren't allowed to be destroyed, so the engineer tagged it onto the end of the album.
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Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 18:30
| Aku-Aku was not the best ending for Styx -Pieces Of Eight album |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 19:20
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"God Save the Queen" on Queen's "Night at the Opera" "Debbie Denise" on Blue Oyster Cult's "Agents of Fortune" "Let's Pretend" on "Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman & Howe"
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 19:28
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One of my favorite bands, Rush, wins this contest rather easily with the album closer from Roll The Bones, titled "You Bet Your Life." All these years later, I still can't believe they recorded such crap. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 19:29
Not a great song, but not a rubbish song... ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 19:49
| the last track on the absolutely superb album "Between Flesh and Divine" by ASIA MINOR is a boring riff instrumental that doesn't deserve to be in the company of the rest. But, like someone said, a throwaway track at the end is more forgivable |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 21:53
| I guess there are too many to really remember them, but reading the comments, the one that comes to my mind is "Dancing with Eternal Glory" on "The Whirlwind", by Transatlantic. I really love that album, easily the best, for me, from the band, and from what little I have heard, from Neal Morse too. But that last song just sounds different from the magnificence of the rest of the album, and sort of drags it down a bit. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 00:13
| I'm not sure its 'rubbish' but Aphrodite's Child album 666 which is generally awesome ends on a strange little ditty 'Break' that has nothing to do with the rest of the album in any respect whatsoever. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 01:50
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 02:08
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It is indeed a prime contender, but FYFM is way more audible, because it doesn't sound at all like it's on the album. Last tracks of a vinyl side (obviously the A-side) would be More Fool Me and Do You Close Your Eyes from Rainbow Rising >> what a crud that track is.
definitely the stinkiest Strawbs album of the 60's & 70's if you ask me. I can think of the two hits being cruddier than the track you mention.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 02:40
Part of the Union is just a mickey take: you probably wouldn't get it unless you were in the UK in the late 60s/early 70s. It should never have been on the album. Lay Down is a great single and fits the album fine. As for Flying, Lady Fuschia, The Winter and the Summer, The River and Stormy Down: very good tracks. Then there are the two absolute masterpieces: Tears and Pavan and Down by the Sea, the riff from the latter having been plagiarised by numerous bands since. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 02:50
| Rainbow's End on Camel's Breathless. I really enjoy the album but this song is probably their worst. |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 04:33
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I don't think I have ever heard anything after tarkus...what could better that track....they should have just extended it to be both sides....hell yeah... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 04:37
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The aforementioned It and Follow You, Follow Me are poor closers by Genesis, a band with a history full of superb ones. Two not-so-strong Pink Floyd closing tracks are The Grand Vizier's Garden Party and Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast. However, the worst of them all may be Ritual by Yes. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 05:42
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Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 08:25
How does it ruin the album? I don't see it. And it is a bonus track, it is not even in the original. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 09:28
Yeah, that's a good choice. Actually, my opinion of that whole album is not very good. Other than Dreamline, it's just so much whatever.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 18:23
Even though I'm a big Yes fan, for some reason that one just grates on my nerves. I love the rest of the album though, but even the last song on "The Big Generator" (which is an inferior Yes album compared to ABWH) which is "Holy Lamb (Song for Harmonic Convergence)" is much better in my opinion than "Let's Pretend". So to me, it's rubbish in contrast to the other great tracks.
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Posted By: philipemery
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 18:46
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-Don't Let It End (reprise) - Kilroy Was Here by Styx... An overall subpar album with one heck of a trashy ending. -Cathedral Of The Mary Ruin - Babylon... an overall atmospheric album, ruined by a "holiday in Deutschland" nonsense. -Absolutely Curtains - Obscured by Clouds by Pink Floyd........ is it cheating to use the last track of a lazy, rubbish, trash album like this?... Clouds I consider the absolute worst and most unappealing, affront to Pink Floyd's career. -What's Done - Visitors by Automatic Man... don't know why it just ruins things for me. ------------- But the sun is eclipsed by the moon. -- Pink Floyd |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 18:59
| The only one I can think of right now is "By The Pain I See In Others", the closing track in Opeth's " Deliverance". I wouldn't say it's rubbish, but certainly not in the same level as the rest of the album. |
Posted By: Braka
Date Posted: August 17 2018 at 22:00
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I think 'A Passion Play' spoils the rest of the album. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 20 2018 at 08:35
Normally you are a way off on ELP but this indeed correct although I think A Time and A Place is a great track and could be retained.
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 03:31
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^ I am a proponent of the extension of tracks in hindsight....as I often fantasize about an alternate universe where SEBTP was released as a double gatefold and each side contained 22-25 min versions of dowamn, fof, boef and cs.... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 03:35
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And Mr sony was into genesis....the 100 minute CD was invented... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 03:59
 Its only problem is being between Meddle and DSOTM, but it's a great album on its own. It's not supposed to be overthought or overproduced, it's a collection of fine tunes. I find it fun and relaxing and it seems like the band had a great time recording it. Absolutely Curtains is to me the farewell of the 60's Floyd, the last hurrah of the Farfisa.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 04:05
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Yep, I'm with you, Sam, `Obscured by Clouds' is lovely. Perhaps not a particularly important Floyd album, and that final track is the least interesting part of the album, but the LP is lovely and melodic with pleasing tunes and cool instrumental bursts. Always loved it, always will. And I'd take it a million times over something like the overworked overproduced AOR blandness of `A Momentary Lapse of Reason' and the way every track pretty much ends on a fade-out...the least honest and genuine Floyd album by far. And that's coming from someone who doesn't actually hate it! 
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 04:14
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The last track could be better without the chanting in the end though. I'd take most of this album over the first side of Meddle. Considering it was released in the cold/bland late 80's, it's not that bad. I'll take it over Invisible Touch any day :P
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 04:30
I would absolutely take all of `Obscured by Clouds' over the first side of `Meddle' too. A mix of pleasant if forgettable tracks and a fairly uninteresting studio version of a track where every single live recording of it EVER wiped the floor with it!  Yeah, `AMLoR' is probably better than `Invisible Touch' I suppose! But I'm surprised, I actually wondered with your new-found poppier 80's appreciation you might have been a little more forgiving of it now! |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 04:40
| ^ I tried again recently, I couldn't get past the third track. I was able to hear the self-titled until the end but it didn't make much for me. I think they didn't have anything new or edgy to say musically in the 80's, even if they used new technology, etc. The early 80's Synthpop sounds more interesting to me, even if the compositions are simpler. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 06:45
There are no rubbish tracks on AMLOR... just a rubbish album Gilmour's weakest solo album that he turned into a Floyd-named affair to prove that he owned the name. Only one passable track on it: the opening instrumental, which is a parody of Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 07:14
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The last part of ritual on tales. I like tales as a whole but that part just seems a bit sleepy and too romantic for the rest of the album. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 07:50
not a fan of the drum solo of Ritual, and the last part can indeed be skipped The only track I do like on TFTO is The Ancient, which FINALLY showed something different in tree albums, but again the folkish last third of the track can be easily skipped, since it has NOTHING to do with the first 12 minutes As for the other two tracks on disc 1, they're best forgotten.
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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 07:54
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I think you guys are crazy! The drum solo on its own is a little annoying, but I think it creates some lovely tension and release once they go into the soft part of the song. And then it builds up and Steve Howe plays a great solo which very neatly wraps up the entire album. ------------- https://borealkinship.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My prog band - Boreal Kinship |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 08:26
I agree, as and for forgetting tracks 1 and 2
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 09:12
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"Resurrection" on Manfred Mann's Angel Station is terrible... arguably the lyrics are fun and the music somehow fits the lyrics but still it makes me cringe... and on Chance they even topped that with Heart on the Street (but then that album has quite a few stinkers). |
Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 12:21
| I always thought that Les Boys on Making Movies by Dire Straits was quite a weak song to end on - not rubbish exactly but not as good as the rest of the album. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 12:40
| I also think the last two tracks on the GG albums Octopus and Freehand are relatively weak. I have grown to like "the river" a bit more these days but it still is not as strong as the rest of the album. Same thing with the last track on Freehand(maybe last two tracks)if I'm not mistaken. |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 13:57
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Not prog - but Bruce Springsteen does have a tendency to end many albums on a slower, downbeat track. On many albums (such as The River, with Wreck on the Highway) it works well and has a melancholic counterpoint to much that came before. However, at times the choice is twee, over-sentimental or too much of a downer. Pony Boy on Human Touch or Valentine's Day on Tunnel of Love are examples. Sometimes, like Froggie come a Courtin' on the Seeger Seesions, it is skip track time. Surprise, Surprise on Working on a Dream, is just misjudged. Of course, he has got it right a lot of times too! Jungleland from Born to Run is the way to end an album! ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Scorpius
Date Posted: August 23 2018 at 21:26
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Gotta go with The Queen on GG's Debut. Piper at the gates of dawn ends with Bike, which I quite enjoyed the first few listens but it got annoying quick. ------------- The most dangerous man in America. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: August 24 2018 at 01:57
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Last time I listened to Tormato it sounded like an album of poor closers. Never listened to a Yes album that had me actually disliking it more. Very depressing. The only thing that made it better was the bonus cuts of the unreleased follow up which were much worse (no wonder JA and RW left then). Now there are some album closing stinkers for you. Not quite as keen on ELP's comedy numbers (Benny and Eddie just in case clarification was needed) but the near Beth experience of BOCs Debbie Denise was a real let down. Only Sabbath's appalling Changes (better on the later version - it's not so much Ozzy does Elton). Not an album closer so it doesn't count; this number follows Wheels Of Confusion and the effect is that of an appalling closer. But if it was (e.g. on a compilation - then it would... Oh, and more risque - loved Follow You Follow Me and It. Genesis not being limited by the confining expectations of their audience. Humour, melody and groove, kiss of death to the more militant male fans of metal and prog. |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: August 25 2018 at 04:11
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Can't have people dismissing topographic ocean's so flippantly...The only true ott symph prog that truly has the length.... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: TiddK
Date Posted: August 25 2018 at 11:39
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Rubbish last track? I think you'd have to go a long way to beat The Grand Vizier's Garden Party off Floyd's 'Ummagumma' album. Sorry, Nick - we love you dearly but that wasn't one of your greatest moments.
I might have nominated Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast from 'Atom heart Mother', but I played it recently and thought the 3rd and final piece of music in it (before the dripping tap fade) was gorgeous, and a fitting end to the album.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 25 2018 at 12:06
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Speaking of last songs, Ritual (Nous sommes du soleil) was the wrap-up to the July 1976 concert I attended at Balboa Stadium in San Diego. Noticeable were the large throngs of fans heading towards the snack bars not too long into TFTO's last number. The lackluster performance was a relative anticlimax to the proceedings. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 25 2018 at 13:07
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Uh..the last 4 tracks on TFTO. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 25 2018 at 15:12
Small world! I saw Yes at their next show at the Cow Palace 7/20/76! I remember them playing Ritual, and while it's my least favorite song from Tales, I didn't move from my seat and don't recall anyone else bailing for the snack bar...of course I do remember strongly considering it during Jon's harp solo
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 25 2018 at 16:58
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The album closer - Beautiful New Day from the album Tardigrade by Simon Says feels kinda weird and anticlimactic after Brother Where' You Bound ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 25 2018 at 21:19
I did originally dismiss Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast too, but listening to it again, it's music is actually very beautiful... all of it... but it's the sounds of breakfast cooking and eating, or whatever, that really drag the song out and cut out it's continuity. |
Posted By: TiddK
Date Posted: August 26 2018 at 11:40
Yes. The cooking stuff was quite interesting the first couple of times I heard it back in 1970 - a good use of stereo and sound effects (probably inspired by Ron Geesin) - but ever after that I could happily live without it. Pity really, it stops the music being given its proper credit.
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 26 2018 at 12:38
If it wasn't for the sounds of the cooking, how would you know it's Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: August 26 2018 at 17:39
Now that's a great bad list!
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: August 26 2018 at 17:40
Nope. I love that one. Always will. Rush has had some rubbish tracks, but I can't think of any that were closers.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: August 27 2018 at 02:09
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: September 11 2018 at 03:26
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Alan's Brekkie is saved by the sublime piano music. The FX are ... well a waste of time. Poor old BOC. Classic album with the near Beth / Death experience of Debbie Denise. Poor Nick Mason.. 10 minutes of an LP to fill up and he has to rope his missus in to play some flute. Result - a studio album of demos. Weirdest funniest... The Yardbirds - Dazed and Confused on Cumular Limit. They cover the Led Zeppelin original - 27 minutes ? Actually 7 minutes of paying tribute to Jake Holmes, then 15 minutes of silence and the song repeats the same but different. It's all backwards. I assume full of Satanic messages. Don't understand what is wrong with It. The whole album is a surreal comedy and the track a jaunty closer. Follow You Follow Me bears no relation to the rest of the album but I thought it was superb. Works as a coda to the album. Most things Genesis are superb. Re-do Invisible Touch to include the unedited singles and the 3 B sides and it is not so bad at all. Tried that with Three but it didn't work as well. The song on Endless Dream starts horrifically (lyrically). What on earth was DG and his missus thinking with these opening lines. Still, quoting from Sorrow was a nice touch but it was touch and go fr a while. |
Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 00:32
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"Another Record" - Genesis
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 02:23
That made me laugh five years ago... ... and it still does nowadays
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 02:30
not even the worst song on Abacab, so i would not call it "rubbish".
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 04:25
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Octavarium by Dream Theater. An overblown balloon filled with empty uninspiration. |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 14:59
Octavarium is one of my favourite DT tracks!! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: GEN_I
Date Posted: August 11 2023 at 00:29
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bike - piper at the gates of dawn another record - abacab |
Posted By: Jackal3000
Date Posted: August 14 2023 at 22:17
| Not a bad song, but "Countdown" from Rush's "Signals," is definitely my least favorite song on the album, mostly because it has no instrumental "solo" of any kind, at least to my ears. Lyrically, IMO, it's also less interesting than the rest of the songs. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 15 2023 at 04:18
I really love "Bike". It's very quirky. Like many of Syd's best songs, kind of a children's song on acid, and there's a lot of humour in it too.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 15 2023 at 04:41
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The Beatles - Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby (Beatles For Sale) The Beatles - Dizzy Miss Lizzy (Help!) Gasolin' - En sju bi du bi mand (Gasolin' 3) The Rolling Stones - On With the Show (Their Satanic Majesties Request) Not strictly rubbish, but anticlimactic: The Beatles - Run For Your Life (Rubber Soul) - misogynistic first of all C.V. Jřrgensen - Outro (Vennerne og vejen) Pink Floyd - Absolutely Curtains (Obscured By Clouds) The Police - Darkness (Ghost In the Machine) Radiohead - Motion Picture Soundtrack (Kid A) R.E.M. - Superman (Lifes Rich Pageant)
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: August 15 2023 at 13:12
Anticlimactic? "Darkness" is the perfect ending to this band's best album! Let me put it this way: can you think of a better way to close that album?
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 15 2023 at 13:53
I believe "Secret Journey" would have been quite a powerful closer. Probably my favourite song of that album :) |