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Topic: Why so few Russian Prog groups in the 70's?
Posted By: CPicard
Subject: Why so few Russian Prog groups in the 70's?
Date Posted: June 11 2018 at 10:04
I wonder why.



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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 11 2018 at 15:39
They were too busy studying nuclear physics and ballet :P
Seriously, they didn't get the memo i guess :o


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 11 2020 at 20:58
Were there any?


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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 12 2020 at 01:33
Because most people were dirt poor and most music stuff was unavailable and what was available was extremely expensive. Plus there was a ban on importing stuff from the west, especially unnecessary stuff like jeans and certain instruments. It is shocking to read about or to hear about it, as I did, directly from my best friend who lived there. And of course there is the obvious reason of political and social oppression, it wasn't permitted.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 12 2020 at 07:00
I didn't think there would be any due to the reasons stated by our friend above but a quick search on Rate Your Music suggests that there were a very few. Enough to count on one hand. None of these artists are listed on PA but deserve investigation.

http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=1970s&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=progressive+rock&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=Russian+Federation&limit=none&countries=" rel="nofollow - http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=1970s&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=progressive+rock&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=Russian+Federation&limit=none&countries=

I'm listening to the 1977 album by ARIEL whose debut album https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/ариэль/русские-картинки-russian-pictures/" rel="nofollow - Русские картинки translates into Russian Pictures. This is clearly prog that should be on the site.




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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 12 2020 at 07:38
Vyacheslav Ganelin made an entire rock opera with Velnio Nuotaka

Probably the most ambitious example of Russian prog but sounds like he moved from Russia to Lithuania

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Bride_%281974_film%29" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Bride_(1974_film)

The state was big on classical so they probably got away with throwing some rock into this by sticking to the playbook for the most part but sounds like a consideration for inclusion




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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 21:25
I spoke to my best friend* about this today, she was born in 1980 and grew up in a city about 300km south of Moscow. And she said the first time a rock concert of any type of rock was allowed in her city was in 1995, it was outdoors, it was a massive event, and she played there with her dark metal band. She said that in Moscow things in music started to open up a few years earlier around 90,91. She said that before that the only concerts allowed anywhere were classical music, traditional folk music or patriotic choirs. And lots of kids were in such choirs that were connected to patriotic soviet youth groups, so basically for example, choir practice on Thursday evening and on the rifle range Friday evening and camping at the weekend.

*Btw, anyone else who really dislikes and doesn't use the words girlfriend and boyfriend?


Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 08:16
Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

I spoke to my best friend* about this today, she was born in 1980 and grew up in a city about 300km south of Moscow. And she said the first time a rock concert of any type of rock was allowed in her city was in 1995, it was outdoors, it was a massive event, and she played there with her dark metal band. She said that in Moscow things in music started to open up a few years earlier around 90,91. She said that before that the only concerts allowed anywhere were classical music, traditional folk music or patriotic choirs. 

Complete bullsh*t! It made my day. LOL
Seems your girlfriend lives in some secret city about 300 km of Moscow.

I guess Russian in this case means Soviet.
Actually in the 60s and 70s there were lots of bands, every university had several bands, every school had at least one band, factories and research institutes also often had bands. It was called 'samodeyatelnost' (amateur artistic ensembles) Yes, the term "rock" was forbidden, and they were called "vocal-instrumental ensembles", but they had the same drums, guitars, keys and, quite often, brass sections.  These university/school bands were not allowed to be paid for gigs. They could play at university/school clubs for their own pleasure, quite often they could get some money for playing at dancing floors, summer student camps etc. Later some of these 'amateur artists' became professionals and even nationally-known stars.
One of the most known bands (quite proggy track, btw):


To make living on music artists had to work officially in the state philharmonies. These so-called philharmoniс vocal-instrumental ensembles were extremely popular, recorded singles and albums (though not too often in comparison to their colleagues in countries like Poland, Hungary or DDR), toured extensively, played clubs, theaters, most popular bands played even hockey and sometimes football arenas. And there were hundreds of official ensembles! I have no idea why mentioned girl saw only traditional and patriotic choirs. Confused

Yes, official work had its limitations (i.e. censorship, the neccesity to play songs of "official" composers and lyricists etc). Thus in parallel with official ensembles rock bands with their own repertoire had to be in undeground until the early-mid 80s. After 1985 underground days were over.

Another myth: Soviet artists didn't have the access to records of Western rock music. It's only partly true. Yes, import LPs were available mostly on black market and were too expensive. But people made numerous tape copies (it was a big pleasure to have a copy recorded directly from LP, most often it was a copy of a tape copy). But anyway popular Western bands (from The Beatles, Stones, Chicago etc to fusion acts like Mahavishnu Orchestra) were known to music fans. Obviously, if ABBA or Deep Purple were household names, artists like Jaco Pastorius were popular among musicians and specialists. 
Add here radio, some Western LPs made by "Melodia" label by license and the possibility to buy in stores (and for reasonable prices) LPs of bands from Communist bloc countries (Hungary, Poland, DDR etc) where censorship was not as strong as in the USSR.

Now how proggy these bands (ensembles) were. Rarely they were pure prog. Leaders of many ensembles were from an older generation (i.e. fans of jazz in general and the band Chicago in particular), that's why most ensembles in early-mid 70s had a brass section. In the end of 70s - early 80s brass sections were replaced by synths. But many non-prog acts had some proggy songs, for example:
  

Why not too many prog acts in the 70's? 
First of all - the lack of instruments. Philharmonies could buy imported instruments and PA systems only for most popular acts (like http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2284" rel="nofollow - PESNYARY and some others), the majority couldn't afford it. For underground acts it was even harder (via black market). 
Second reason - Soviet audience was mostly lyrics-oriented, i.e. quite often, especially in case of then  underground rock, lyrics in native language mattered more than music. 


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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 10:26
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:



Complete bullsh*t!



NO,not bullsh*t. All true.
You've never been to Oryol then? Actually I think it might be more like 400km from Moscow. It is a right sh*t hole to be honest. She left in 2002 when she moved here to Sweden. We were back there last year.




Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 11:46
^ What you call a sh*thole is actually a city with more than 300 thousand people. 
If your girlfriend, born in 1980, knows better what was before and soon after her birth, be so.

But if you have questions I'll try to answer.


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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 16:30
Why is this in the Just For Fun thread?

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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 17:13
^ Thanks, I didn't notice. That's funny. Smile

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 17:18
It should be in the main Lounge, it would get a lot more hits considering JFF is a hidden thread... and there's ceratinly nothing 'fun' about Russian prog  Tongue




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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 18:05
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I wonder why.


Probably the same reason as the dearth of cutting edge funk emanating from East Germany in the 70's


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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 18:26
I don't know who did it, but thanks for moving the thread to Prog Lounge.

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 18:32
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ What you call a sh*thole is actually a city with more than 300 thousand people. 
If your girlfriend, born in 1980, knows better what was before and soon after her birth, be so.

But if you have questions I'll try to answer.


sh*thole has nothing to do with the size of a city, it has to do with the quality of the place, she calls it a sh*thoke herself. And she was 15 in 95, which isn't even close to when she was born. Also there are about 150 million people in Russia,so you'll excuse me if I in turn dismiss your rude dismissal of what she says. Your individual experience does not represent 150 million people.


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 20:13
Interesting topic.  I was in Romania in 1979 (it was Communist, Ceaucescu was the leader) and heard "Awaken" on a small radio that the tour bus driver had.  

When I was in Czechoslovakia in 1994(Communist, Husak was the leader) all the young guys were wearing leather jackets with "Iron Maiden," "Judas Priest" and other Western band logos & names....I walked past an ancient wood fence in the city of my grandfather's birth, Brodske (now in Slovakia) and saw "METALLICA" painted in huge letters.   It was the "peristroika" era in in the USSR.  

I think it was going on & we didn't get to hear much of it, but clearly, they had access to it.

p.s. this is me in Bratislava, Slovakia, posing with my evil twin, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.  



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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 22:55
Have to add that there were western bands playing in Soviet at least in eighties. Finnish band "Sielun Veljet" (their English name was L´Amourder) were many times in Soviet, in this next piece the authorities thought their concert has gone too wild and they put the lights there, but the band didn´t care at all, they went even wilder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfLoD6Rx7g" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfLoD6Rx7g

Also, I was in Soviet in the begin of nineties and bought there albums from Rolling Stones & Creedence, they´re Soviet-versions from their only record company melodiya.

Here´s also really great prog piece from Estonia from seventies, I think Soviet authorities didn´t let them record whole album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c5G-JYSEzQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c5G-JYSEzQ


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 23:00
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Interesting topic.  I was in Romania in 1979 (it was Communist, Ceaucescu was the leader) and heard "Awaken" on a small radio that the tour bus driver had.  

When I was in Czechoslovakia in 1994(Communist, Husak was the leader) all the young guys were wearing leather jackets with "Iron Maiden," "Judas Priest" and other Western band logos & names....I walked past an ancient wood fence in the city of my grandfather's birth, Brodske (now in Slovakia) and saw "METALLICA" painted in huge letters.   It was the "peristroika" era in in the USSR.  

I think it was going on & we didn't get to hear much of it, but clearly, they had access to it.

p.s. this is me in Bratislava, Slovakia, posing with my evil twin, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.  

Really great picture! Smile


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 00:14
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Interesting topic.  I was in Romania in 1979 (it was Communist, Ceaucescu was the leader) and heard "Awaken" on a small radio that the tour bus driver had.  

When I was in Czechoslovakia in 1994(Communist, Husak was the leader) all the young guys were wearing leather jackets with "Iron Maiden," "Judas Priest" and other Western band logos & names....I walked past an ancient wood fence in the city of my grandfather's birth, Brodske (now in Slovakia) and saw "METALLICA" painted in huge letters.   It was the "peristroika" era in in the USSR.  

I think it was going on & we didn't get to hear much of it, but clearly, they had access to it.

p.s. this is me in Bratislava, Slovakia, posing with my evil twin, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.  

Really great picture! Smile

Thanks!  I really loved visiting over there....I was in Kiev during Breshnev years (1979) as well as Romania & Czechoslovakia....people were SO nice to us Americans, and we were very generous, handing out US cigarettes by the pack, giving money to little kids etc.  

I'm sure there were some amazing groups that never had a chance to record, music would have been a natural outlet for their frustrations and creativity.  


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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 00:23
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Interesting topic.  I was in Romania in 1979 (it was Communist, Ceaucescu was the leader) and heard "Awaken" on a small radio that the tour bus driver had.  

When I was in Czechoslovakia in 1994(Communist, Husak was the leader) all the young guys were wearing leather jackets with "Iron Maiden," "Judas Priest" and other Western band logos & names....I walked past an ancient wood fence in the city of my grandfather's birth, Brodske (now in Slovakia) and saw "METALLICA" painted in huge letters.   It was the "peristroika" era in in the USSR.  

I think it was going on & we didn't get to hear much of it, but clearly, they had access to it.

p.s. this is me in Bratislava, Slovakia, posing with my evil twin, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.  

Really great picture! Smile

Thanks!  I really loved visiting over there....I was in Kiev during Breshnev years (1979) as well as Romania & Czechoslovakia....people were SO nice to us Americans, and we were very generous, handing out US cigarettes by the pack, giving money to little kids etc.  

I'm sure there were some amazing groups that never had a chance to record, music would have been a natural outlet for their frustrations and creativity.  
Well, at least Vaclav Havel, who become president of Czechoslovakia in 1989, was a big rock music lover, specially Lou Reed & Velvet Underground (if I remember right he heard VU & Nico album already in 1967).


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 02:38
Well, I guess the Soviets had more control in Russia (and USSR in general) than in the East European satellitaire countries, because they had three more decades to install themselves....

However, my guess is that it (the "rock thing") was probably more underground than in CZ or Hungary.

This (great) near-biopic movie is instructive , because there was some kind of rock scene in Petrograd (St Petersburg) in the 70's & 80's

https://rateyourmusic.com/film/%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE/


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 02:46
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Well, I guess the Soviets had more control in Russia (and USSR in general) than in the East European satellitaire countries, because they had three more decades to install themselves....

However, my guess is that it (the "rock thing") was probably more underground than in CZ or Hungary.

This (great) near-biopic movie is instructive , because there was some kind of rock scene in Petrograd (St Petersburg) in the 70's & 80's

https://rateyourmusic.com/film/%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE/
Well, I believe it varied in countries. In Czechoslovakia there were much more thinking of liberation also within the authorities already in sixties than for example Yugoslavia & Albania.


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 04:20
^ I am sure they had Prague Music in Czechoslovakia.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 04:30
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Well, I guess the Soviets had more control in Russia (and USSR in general) than in the East European satellitaire countries, because they had three more decades to install themselves....

However, my guess is that it (the "rock thing") was probably more underground than in CZ or Hungary.

This (great) near-biopic movie is instructive , because there was some kind of rock scene in Petrograd (St Petersburg) in the 70's & 80's

https://rateyourmusic.com/film/%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE/
Well, I believe it varied in countries. In Czechoslovakia there were much more thinking of liberation also within the authorities already in sixties than for example Yugoslavia & Albania.


Yougoslavia was really non-aligned during the cold war (the Tito years anyway), as I can remember and it was also opened to western tourists.
CZ and Hungary had rebellions (68 and 56 respectively), so the politburo in both countries had to be more lenient in terms of culture & liberties allowed. I understand the in Czekia, they even held a couple of rock festival during the 70's, but needless to say that there were as many spies attending as there was public.

So there were some "prog" bands in both, but they had to be agreed to and from the cultural ministry and if you didn't get permission and persevered like Plastic People Of The Universe, you went to jail.


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 05:49
The most tightly controlled satellite country of the USSR was East Germany. The best border guard regiments, the most loyal kommisars, and the most elite forces were in East Germany both for inward and outward defence.


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 06:37
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Well, I guess the Soviets had more control in Russia (and USSR in general) than in the East European satellitaire countries, because they had three more decades to install themselves....

However, my guess is that it (the "rock thing") was probably more underground than in CZ or Hungary.

This (great) near-biopic movie is instructive , because there was some kind of rock scene in Petrograd (St Petersburg) in the 70's & 80's

https://rateyourmusic.com/film/%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE/
Well, I believe it varied in countries. In Czechoslovakia there were much more thinking of liberation also within the authorities already in sixties than for example Yugoslavia & Albania.


Yougoslavia was really non-aligned during the cold war (the Tito years anyway), as I can remember and it was also opened to western tourists.
CZ and Hungary had rebellions (68 and 56 respectively), so the politburo in both countries had to be more lenient in terms of culture & liberties allowed. I understand the in Czekia, they even held a couple of rock festival during the 70's, but needless to say that there were as many spies attending as there was public.

So there were some "prog" bands in both, but they had to be agreed to and from the cultural ministry and if you didn't get permission and persevered like Plastic People Of The Universe, you went to jail.
Have to admit, that I have forgotten really much what I heard in history lessons in school. I have got the picture Czechoslovakia was the country in those times, that mostly want to direct into western countries from those satellite countries.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 08:07
As a US citizen who visited Communist countries in the early 80s, East Germany was the most strict and Yugoslavia the most lenient.

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 08:38
The Nitty Gritty Dirt band toured Russia in 1977.  Interesting article from Radio Free Europe. https://www.rferl.org/a/spies-spooks-and-rock-n-roll-at-twilight-of-the-cold-war/25354132.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.rferl.org/a/spies-spooks-and-rock-n-roll-at-twilight-of-the-cold-war/25354132.html

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 09:21
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

The Nitty Gritty Dirt band toured Russia in 1977.  Interesting article from Radio Free Europe. https://www.rferl.org/a/spies-spooks-and-rock-n-roll-at-twilight-of-the-cold-war/25354132.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.rferl.org/a/spies-spooks-and-rock-n-roll-at-twilight-of-the-cold-war/25354132.html

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Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 09:24


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 14:01
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

The Nitty Gritty Dirt band toured Russia in 1977.  Interesting article from Radio Free Europe. https://www.rferl.org/a/spies-spooks-and-rock-n-roll-at-twilight-of-the-cold-war/25354132.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.rferl.org/a/spies-spooks-and-rock-n-roll-at-twilight-of-the-cold-war/25354132.html

Will the sickle (and hammer) be unbroken?
 

Oh, snap! LOL


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Posted By: ProgShine
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 14:32
Very little, yes, but still a couple (reasons already stated).

My two cents will be two records Thumbs Up

- Ариэль [Ariel] - Русские картинки [Russkiye kartinki] {1977} (Already mentioned here)
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/ариэль/русские-картинки-russian-pictures/" rel="nofollow -
- Давид Тухманов [David Tukhmanov] - По волне моей памяти [Po volne moyey pamyati] {1975}
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/давид-тухманов/по-волне-моей-памяти/" rel="nofollow -
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 14:51
Thanks for mentioning these albums.

Originally posted by ProgShine ProgShine wrote:

- Ариэль [Ariel] - Русские картинки [Russkiye kartinki] {1977} (Already mentioned here)
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/ариэль/русские-картинки-russian-pictures/" rel="nofollow -

Originally posted by ProgShine ProgShine wrote:

- Давид Тухманов [David Tukhmanov] - По волне моей памяти [Po volne moyey pamyati] {1975}
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/давид-тухманов/по-волне-моей-памяти/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/давид-тухманов/по-волне-моей-памяти/
This one I believe was the first officially released prog album in the USSR. It was very popular, for a long time I couldn't buy the LP because they were sold very fast.
It's in PA database:  http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57208" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57208


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 23:49
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

It was called 'samodeyatelnost' (amateur artistic ensembles) Yes, the term "rock" was forbidden, and they were called "vocal-instrumental ensembles", but they had the same drums, guitars, keys and, quite often, brass sections.

The same disease of political correctness is spreading throughout Western Europe, especially aiming at issues connected to our culture and history. I wonder for how long we are still allowed to use the term "prog" here.


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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 13:55
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

It was called 'samodeyatelnost' (amateur artistic ensembles) Yes, the term "rock" was forbidden, and they were called "vocal-instrumental ensembles", but they had the same drums, guitars, keys and, quite often, brass sections.

The same disease of political correctness is spreading throughout Western Europe, especially aiming at issues connected to our culture and history. I wonder for how long we are still allowed to use the term "prog" here.

Yes, I've heard and read that in early days of rock it was called in the West as a "red danger", while in Soviet Union officials called it "a product of rotting Western culture". Smile
Hope we'll be allowed to use the term "prog" till the rest of our lives. At least I don't see attacks to the term. I guess most curious creatures of the next generations will ask their granddads what the beast it (prog) was.


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: February 18 2020 at 22:31
I just found this posted to FB, it is Russian & very nice!  I believe they are reviewed on PA. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNR226Qy_I&fbclid=IwAR1hkyOll12UeSgSpItTNxdD5FZHFDHS2cC1PMshMIgGYC4Q-hSqx_SmIcw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNR226Qy_I&fbclid=IwAR1hkyOll12UeSgSpItTNxdD5FZHFDHS2cC1PMshMIgGYC4Q-hSqx_SmIcw


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Posted By: novox14
Date Posted: February 22 2020 at 23:08
Great stuff! Though not from 70's..... 



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