geezer wrote: I don't have any. I'm against these kind of additions.

you are my friend;

in fact i want to remove some of them

jitu wrote: geezer wrote: I don't have any. I'm against these kind of additions. you are my friend; in fact i want to remove some of them

 *EDIT* i wrote the topic question the way it should have originally been written

Kohllapse wrote: jitu wrote: geezer wrote: I don't have any. I'm against these kind of additions. you are my friend; in fact i want to remove some of them ok new question ,What are bands on prog archives that you want removed immediately?  *EDIT* i wrote the topic question the way it should have originally been written

radiohead

add = Santifica - Negative B ( Progressive Metal)  Fans of progressive metal really need to check this CD out, it will be worth the investment.

radiohead once again

PROG:

Laurie Anderson,

Bowie (albums with Fripp and Brian Eno- Low, Lodger, Heroes, Alladin Sane)

Hendrix - Electric ladyland

Brain Ticket

NON PROG: Styx, Saga, Supertramp, Queen, Alan Parsons project, Asia

on the radio i listened to two groups from the seventies that were interesting in my opinion; they were called T2 and Room (or something like that)   i can't find them on the archives

 maybe they can be added...  

What about adding Black Sabbath check out the albums VOL 4, MASTER OF REALITY and especially SABOTAGE and TECHNICAL ECSTASY for Progressive Sounds in their music.

Hello fellow progheads.

I think we will never fully agree about the bands that are now on Prog Archives and that will be added to this site. In my opinion we have to be tolerant and should not act like The Spanish Inquisition! I hope that Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, Santana, The Tubes and The Stranglers will be added to the site because they have made at least some wonderful progressive rock albums, not like King Crimson, Yes or Genesis but an own very distinctive sound like The Raven by The Stranglers, Led Zep III and IV or Abraxas by Santana (unique latin-rock, very progressive). These albums are not Mellotron-drenched or layered with Minimoog flights or they don't contain frequent shifting moods but for sure they sound progressive, more than post-Hackett Genesis, Eighties Yes or post Waters Pink Floyd! And Prog Archvies have scooped a precedent by adding Radiohead, Queen and Talk Talk. And if my abovementioned bands are added, I'm sure that a lot of reviewers will gain attention with venomous reviews about these added bands, that's a good sublimation, better than beating up or bullying other people!

Keep on writing as Gatot used to write!

PROGMAN wrote: What about adding Black Sabbath check out the albums VOL 4, MASTER OF REALITY and especially SABOTAGE and TECHNICAL ECSTASY for Progressive Sounds in their music.

I suppose if you add Sabbath you'd have to add all their albums, 95% with no prog leanings at all. They're one of my favourite bands but in my opinion they're overall as prog as Zeppelin. Not quite enough.

What are the bands you want on progarchives because they belong to the genre "Roots of prog"?

As some of us may have seen, a new genre "Roots of prog" has been added to the progarchives site. The only band in this genre that has been added until now is Deep Purple. Now it will not take long before the Beatles will enter the archives. Let the 60's revive again!!!! !! !!!! !!!!

Stiefel wrote: on the radio i listened to two groups from the seventies that were interesting in my opinion; they were called T2 and Room (or something like that)   i can't find them on the archives  maybe they can be added...

T2 and Room are both on the "Legend Of A Mind" compilation which is featured here under various artists. Both a bit obscure but could be added.

Some of the stuff we listened to many Moons ago were - then - perceived as prog, but later surpassed in style and delivery. Does it mean that today's perceived prog will end up on the scrapheap too and be a laughing matter for ones, yet to be born? Quiet possibly, I'd say. (For some, Kraftwerk is sensational, for others prog means no less than Mahavishnu.)

I am almost "offended" by some inclusions here, yet - in all fairness - I could not object to them. Perhaps the site benefits from allowing for a broader spectrum? For example, I have most of the early albums of Kate Bush - and I still enjoy listening to them. She was innovative without a Hammond B-3, yet I'd cringe at seeing her listed here. Nevertheless, her approach then was progressive in the classical term of the word..... So, where do we draw the line? It's anybody's guess and will remain so - perhaps forever.

I'd say common sense will dictate the terms and after all, the people who established the site may have their own motivation and preference and they have the right to determine as what's in line with their preferences. Any one of us who insists on major changes - I could be one too - is free to track down and participate on other sites, or perhaps set up their own...?

erik neuteboom wrote: Hello fellow progheads. I think we will never fully agree about the bands that are now on Prog Archives and that will be added to this site. In my opinion we have to be tolerant and should not act like The Spanish Inquisition! I hope that Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, Santana, The Tubes and The Stranglers will be added to the site because they have made at least some wonderful progressive rock albums, not like King Crimson, Yes or Genesis but an own very distinctive sound like The Raven by The Stranglers, Led Zep III and IV(1) or Abraxas by Santana (unique latin-rock, very progressive). These albums are not Mellotron-drenched or layered with Minimoog flights or they don't contain frequent shifting moods but for sure they sound progressive, more than post-Hackett Genesis, Eighties Yes or post Waters Pink Floyd! And Prog Archvies have scooped a precedent by adding Radiohead, Queen and Talk Talk. And if my abovementioned bands are added, I'm sure that a lot of reviewers will gain attention with venomous reviews about these added bands, that's a good sublimation, better than beating up or bullying other people! Keep on writing as Gatot used to write! (2)

1. The albums are in no way progressive. Led Zep 3 is folk mixed in with blues and rock, nothing no one's not heard before but it's true. And "Starway to Heaven" is about the only Zep song o that album to be even close to prog. Zep was only a bit prog on Physical Graffitti, but not enough for that album to even be on this site, IMO.

2. Gatot sill wirtes excellent reviews.

lordoflight wrote: The Doors, Santana, Celtic Frost

Celtic Frost?  were one of my fav metal group     i like that someone interested in prog rok still remember them    i think that into the pandemonium was a pre-progmetal album that influenced many bands

I wish to see included two BOC's albums:

Blue Oyster Cult (1972) and Secret Treaties (1974).

Odd24 wrote: What are the bands you want on progarchives because they belong to the genre "Roots of prog"? As some of us may have seen, a new genre "Roots of prog" has been added to the progarchives site. The only band in this genre that has been added until now is Deep Purple. Now it will not take long before the Beatles will enter the archives. Let the 60's revive again!!!! !! !!!! !!!!

Never forget FAMILY!

If you don't know them, try at least FEARLESS and ANYWAY.

Andrea Cortese wrote: I wish to see included two BOC's albums: Blue Oyster Cult (1972) and Secret Treaties (1974).

Of course I agree, but I would add Tyranny and Mutation.

Perhaps we're a little bit afar from prog, but this music is great!

1. The albums are in no way progressive. Led Zep 3 is folk mixed in with blues and rock, nothing no one's not heard before but it's true. And "Starway to Heaven" is about the only Zep song o that album to be even close to prog. Zep was only a bit prog on Physical Graffitti, but not enough for that album to even be on this site, IMO. 2. Gatot sill wirtes excellent reviews.

i would say "house of the holy",  but anyway zep isnt prog at all..

I agree that both T2 and Room should be represented here- both made superb albums for Deram/Decca in 1970, and are hugely underrated.

My band nominations:

Spooky Tooth (art rock)

String Driven Thing (art rock/symphonic prog)

Wishbone Ash (art rock)

Family (art rock)

Man (space rock)

The Gods (roots of prog)

Toe Fat (possible for a new progressive blues section)

Leafhound (art rock/ progressive blues section perhaps- Black Cat Bones are here, yet Leafhound came later with most of the members, and are more progressive than BCB)

Fairport Convention (prog folk/ roots of prog)

The Incredible String Band (prog folk/ roots of prog)

Pentangle (prog folk/ roots of prog)

Rainbow (art rock- though ONLY the Dio years!!)

Lone Star (art rock)

Ten Years After (possibly in the roots of prog section or a new 'progressive blues' section)

Be Bop Deluxe (art rock)

Patto (art rock/ jazz rock- fusion)

The Beatles (under roots of prog)

Taste (roots of prog/progressive blues)

Budgie (progressive metal/art rock)

Miles Davis (jazz rock/fusion- though ONLY the jazz fusion albums)

The Pretty Things (roots of prog- 'SF Sorrow' was one of the first concept albums)

The Pink Fairies (space rock- 'Never Never Land' matches anything done by Hawkwind imo)

Tim Buckley (left field choice maybe, but I hear much that's progressive from 'Goodbye And Hello' to 'Starsailor'- roots of prog section)

I imagine that my list will provoke mass outcries about '(insert name here) aren't prog!', but surely the whole idea of progressive music was making sounds never heard before, rather than a closed shop whereby only bands with complex time signatures or lots of keyboards are included?

I agree that bands like Vanilla Fudge, along with the addition of similar bands like Iron Butterfly and The Doors should be in the roots of prog section, and also I think that Black Sabbath's inclusion has merit, as does Zeppelin, yet the trouble is what section to put them under, and the undoubted protests from other forum members.

Hello Stonebeard.

1) I advise you to listen to the following very progressive rock compositions from Led Zeppelin and then asked yourself or Stairway to heaven is the only 'close to progrock' composition:

The rain song, No quarter and Kashmir, have a nice listening section!

2) I wrote "Gatot used to say" and of course that should be "Gatot uses to say", I'm also glad that he still writes his ultra-enthousiastic reviews on this site!

I'm going to say Incubus.  Started out trying to be like Mr. Bungle and Primus (two bands already here), and managed to evolve into a Funk Rock on their 3rd album. 

Lately, I've been detecting a more and more prevalent Rush-esque quality to their music.  If anyone's heard their newest album (A Crow Left of the Murder), then you should be able to hear it.  They've also recorded a four part song called The Oddessy for the the X-Box game Halo 2.  They do have a turntablist in the band, and he is slightly overused on the earlier music, but he's now using more effects to create an atmophere.  And Mike Engzinger, their guitarist, still remains one of modern rock's most creative guitar players.

And they have a wiked tight drummer, the guy who git me into playing the drums .