Time for Indo-Prog/Raga Rock subgenre to go?
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Topic: Time for Indo-Prog/Raga Rock subgenre to go?
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Subject: Time for Indo-Prog/Raga Rock subgenre to go?
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 08:18
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Listening to the newly released album Lunar Halo The Myrrors and seeing it having been assigned to the Space/Psych ward, I'm beginning to wonder about the relevance and viability of maintaining and sustaining an entire page and subgenre that cannot even generate 100 albums for a "Top 100 rated" albums list. My questions are: Does there need to be a page dedicated to this subgenre, "Indo-Prog/Raga Rock"--a minor category of practically extinct music? Would there be any problem absorbing all of these albums into other categories? (e.g., Jazz-Rock Fusion, Space/Psych, Avant/RIO, Krautrock, Prog Folk, and even Symphonic.) Is it any effort and/or distraction to keep and maintain the present page? Did this subgenre play as important a role in "progressing" progressive rock as the other subs? Did these bands/albums really deserve their own subgenre over other potential subs such as: "Jazz-Rock" and "Fusion," "Space" and "Psychedelic," "Progressive Electronic" and "Berlin School," "Post Rock" and "Math Rock," etc.???? And what about Neoclassical/Avant Chamber as a representative of progressive music? (Why is such a thing impossible just because they don't use drums?) Just wondering... ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 08:40
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I don't have any idea why indo-raga was given it's own little world to exist in here but i kinda like it. It maintains a little exotic club of artists from another era that had their heads in the clouds and sitars at hand. I've always been more curious why certain genres like RIO and avant-prog are lumped together. Also metal has three categories here and they could easily all just be called "progressive metal." I agree that post-rock and math rock are two different categories as well. I would imagine that changing all this would require unfathomable amounts of effort that could be better spent sprucing up the site in other ways. There are still tons of bands missing here even from the classic era. This is probably one of those questions for the founders of the site as it seems quite mysterious in some ways. -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 09:16
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Well..I'm not an esteemed 'collaborator'.....but I have always though there was overlap and redundancy in the genres . I'll have to look up the Indo prog to see what it is...not sure I have ever looked into it. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: mlkpad14
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 10:26
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Looking into it right now, and I love that it is its own little world here. Really fits a certain mood of mine, and adds something unique to the site. ------------- https://gamecrazyprofessional.weebly.com/ |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 10:43
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The only album I own from that 'category' is Third Ear Band -Alchemy.....never thought of it as Indo prog raga....more like folky psych rock to me. I used to own a copy of Tanyet...Caleib People in the distant past. I don't have a problem with the genre....but it could easily fit in the folk psych/prog area. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 10:44
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I recently had the same thought when I submitted a Celtic-prog band, "The Moors", for possible inclusion in the database. Someone suggested they be classified as Indo/Raga, but I disagreed, and recommended Prog Folk (althought that isn't even the best place for them). I might suggest a more general genre called "World Fusion". The Celtic guys can go there. The Indo/Raga guys can go there. I think the band Azigza (mis-classified as Jazz Rock/Fusion, IMHO) should go there. The definition of the World Fusion sub-genre would be: Bands that base their music on the traditional music of various parts of the world, whether it is their own native area, or some other. The music, while based on traditional songs and motifs, exhibits the characteristics of progressive rock. This genre include other sub-genres such as Celtic Prog, Indo/Rag Prog, Prog Gypsy, Afro-Prog, Prog Viking Metal. Examples bands in the genre include Azigza, The Moors, Quintessence, Tir Na Nog, Huun-Huur-Tu, Beats Antique, Koraii Orom, Lumsk, and even soundtracks of Cirque du Soleil. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 10:48
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blame M@X Drew.... I offered to buy the site from him. Captcha would have been first to go and yeah.... that subgenre would have been on my list to do away with. The bands within it could have easily been folded into other subs. but it is a good point... something that could be done but on that note... in case you haven't noticed... leadership is completely missing on this site. It sails the seas of mediority after the wind of the 1st generation collabs who ran the site and built it retired and moved on. No one left and M@X is f**king awol... to do anything to really change the site. It can't get rid of Captcha... zero chance of really changing anything on the database. The site has been on cruise control for years... it could really be improved.. but there is little stomach and less forceful personalities left here to make it happen < -cfasync="false" ="/cdn-cgi/s/d07b1474/cloudflare-static/email-decode.min.js">
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 10:52
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Someone piss in your coffee this morning Micky?
How would you split them up? ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
siLLy puPPy wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 10:55
yeah my neighbor... but don't worry.... he's being paid back... and then some. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 11:02
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Where would you put this?: {EDIT: Fixed youtube embed. For youtube, either hyperlink using url code or use the tube code but only have the unique part of the youtube address after v= otherwise it will try to install shockwave flash objects on people's computers. So the embed code (without breaks) is not [TUBE ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBYaoynkVg[ /TUBE] but instead it is (without breaks) [ tube] _QBYaoynkVg[/ tube] ... - Logan} ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 11:28
I would classify them as "World Fusion". If you look at André FERTIER's website (one of the principal members of Mixtus Orbis), he classifies himself as an innovator of World Music. Unfortunately, PA does not have this sub-genre. I think it's time to create it, and merge the Indo/Raga stuff (and a few other mis-classified bands) into it. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 11:52
Yes. Whereas I quite like math rock, post rock doesn't appeal to me at all. And because PA doesn't make the distinction, it's a bit of an effort to find the math rock amongst the post rock. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 13:32
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I love the albums that are Raga-Prog. I check to see if new artists are added and I feel disappointed at the dearth of new additions. I think to myself, " I bet there are new bands, unknown even to the Collaborators, jamming to Raga Prog." I agree with Silly Puppy....."post-rock and math rock are two different categories as well." Post Rock doesn't sound anything like Math Rock to me. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 13:34
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The reason is very simple: Indo/Raga was one of the favourite "subgenres" one of the site's earliest members and collaborators, Philippe (who also wrote the introduction on the subgenre's home page). Most of the subgenres were created in the early days of the site, and Indo/Raga is a legacy from those days. Other subgenres have been modified, but that one has remained - probably because no one finds it particularly offensive or noteworthy. The ones that were split - such as Art Rock or Prog Metal - were so huge as to be unmanageable by any team that did not have at least ten members. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 13:49
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yeah..... for those of you who didn't have the pleasure of meeting him. A picture says a thousand words  even I... who would pick fights with anyone..at anytime when I thought they were wrong tended to steer clear of him. He was a legend. And people think I am acerbic. sh*tttttt..... Miss ya buddy.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 13:53
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ok...then. LOL.......... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 14:01
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*spits Hot tea all over monitor* oh god daring I had forgotten that..... the time I pissed him off so badly he lost control of his english facilities as well as his stone cold personna... and called me a freaking monkey. f**king A hiliarious... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: February 04 2018 at 21:44
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I really like having the Indo-Prog/Raga-Rock sub-genre, as I think it is truly is a separate and unique genre. Saying this, a 'Progressive World Music' category would also suffice, and provide a home where other progressive world musics could also be housed. I also agree that post-rock and math rock - two genres I really like - are really separate genres and would be best as their own categories. Finally, I always thought we didn't need so many progressive metal categories, but as someone who listens less to metal I will defer to those who do.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 02:24
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"World Fusion" has a nice ring to it. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 02:31
It's that time of the year already?  ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 03:46
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I don't know the band and I wasn't in the team back then, but looking at the ProgFreak history, they were added seven years ago when they only had one album. Maybe that one isn't so much Indo-Prog and the team didn't think it was enough to add them to the genre? The bio doesn't even mention the genre. At this point I'd rather get rip of captcha then any sub-genre...
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 06:43
Just a quick shout out. Some of these threads will start to download something mysterious on my computer. This is one of them. It rarely happens but it does maybe every couple weeks. Anybody experience the same thing? OH no, ROBOTS?!!!!!  As far as the RIO / Avant-prog category goes, i guess this is the one that makes the most sense to lump together since the crossover between the two covers a lot of ground. That was admittedly a bad example. The math rock / post-rock category makes no sense though. Meanwhile RPI doesn't really tell you what kind of prog it is. As far as RIO / Avant goes i'm still perplexed why jazz-metal artists like John Zorn reside there. My logic is avant prog + metal = progressive metal + jazz = jazz fusion. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 08:36
This makes a lot of sense.
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 09:13
Just a quick shout out. Some of these threads will start to download something mysterious on my computer. This is one of them. It rarely happens but it does maybe every couple weeks. Anybody experience the same thing? OH no, ROBOTS?!!!!! As far as the RIO / Avant-prog category goes, i guess this is the one that makes the most sense to lump together since the crossover between the two covers a lot of ground. That was admittedly a bad example. The math rock / post-rock category makes no sense though. Meanwhile RPI doesn't really tell you what kind of prog it is. As far as RIO / Avant goes i'm still perplexed why jazz-metal artists like John Zorn reside there. My logic is avant prog + metal = progressive metal + jazz = jazz fusion. I agree with Silly Puppy. I may go further because in my opinion Post Rock and Math Rock sound like opposites to me.
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Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: February 05 2018 at 18:24
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Perhaps before asking if that sub-genre needs to go, you should ask why is it important? Why do you even come to think about it and why are you occupied with this "problem"? It surely won't (or shouldn't) make any difference for your love or hate of a particular album just because it fits into a specific sub-genre. If we were to "abolish" Indo-Raga Prog, what would that mean to you? Sorry, but I can't understand why such thing matters. People could officially rename "prog" to whatever they wanted or the subgenres too. They could delete it or call something else. What difference does it make to your appreciation of the music? None. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Stygian Heresy
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 03:59
| This seems like a good thread to ask: Has there ever been discussion of *starting* a Prog Books category? Visiting the items on any given sales site link changes from day to day. It might be nice to establish a fixed list...as part of ProgArchives desire to be the best and most complete. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 06:23
It tries to download shockwave Flash objects when youtube vids are not embedded properly. I have fixed that in this thread (see my edit on the last pagewith the Clivage vid). It used to be able to work one way that doesn't anymore, so one especially finds it in certain old bumped threads (I used to embed that way, whereas most didn't). It's not dangerous and can be discarded, but irritating. As for the Indo-Prog/ Raga Rock category, I find it a useful grouping and like the exoticism of such an almost esoteric category. Yes, those groups could fit in other categories (say some in Psych, Folk, Krautrock or whatever), but I like having such flavours together. The way PA works is hardly ideal, it would be better if each album in PA was tagged with multiple "genre" tags, and I prefer album tagging to band tagging, although I don't mind having a master category for the band. I'm one of those who favours more classification, not less. By the way, there was talk years ago amongst RIO/Avant Prog team members to split it into RIO and Avant Prog (many of those could also easily fit Eclectic Prog, some could fit Crossover, some could fit Zeuhl....) While most of the RIO bands could easily be termed Avant Prog, most of the Avant prog bands are not RIO (part of the Rock in Opposition movement/ concerts...) ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 06:50
I think you'll find that most of the jazz fusion team focus on the Weather Report, Mahavishnu, RTF type bands rather than the experimental jazz noise types like Electric Masada, Gutbucket, Schnellertollermeier. In to Avant team we see artists transferred over to us in this profile. As a group we're pretty open to a broad definition of avant rock bands. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 07:59
The reason genres are important is they act as a guide for people looking for new music to listen to - not simply enjoying old stuff that they already know about. Without those labels, people would waste a lot of time sampling every album that gets released in the hopes of finding something that suits their (current) tastes. It would be like going to the grocery store to buy some canned vegetables, but none of the cans have labels. Genres are important, and we need more descriptive ones, rather than fewer. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:02
I would LOVE a World Fusion category in the stead of the Indo-Prog/Raga Rock one! Great suggestion. And I LOVE the Cirque du Soleil and Blue Man Group musics! And so many film soundtracks! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:05
Now THIS is a revelation! A worthy project for you, Micky! Infuse a little life back into the site! And continue to modernize and streamline processes to keep up with the times... Can we have a vote on this? Micky for President! 2020! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:14
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:16
Agreed. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:19
Guess so! You got something better to do? ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:21
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At this point I'd rather get rip of captcha then any sub-genre... [/QUOTE]
Agreed! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:24
Well, since i've been on the PSIKE team, we have cleared one Indo-raga artist which i can't recall at the moment. As for me, i'm less worried about the artists being categorized in such a way since Indo-raga certainly has characteristics that differ from other sub-genres, my question is why it is even on a ROCK site when most of it is surreal ambient or tribal world music. There are rock examples such as Shakti or A. Shankar but much of what i've heard is more droning and experimental with no trace of rock whatsoever. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:28
Not a bad idea, actually, but I would launch it http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=2" rel="nofollow - HERE instead (and you could elaborate more your proposal...) |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:31
Again, referring to my OP, I was listening, as I often do, to one of the new albums posted daily on the right column of the PA HomePage under "New Releases"--The Myrrors' Lunar Halo, to be precise--thinking how this music could most easily have been placed into the Indo-Prog/Raga Rock subgenre instead of the Space/Psych ward, when I began musing why a category such as I-P/RR even exists if no one wants to go there, if no one wants to listen to or be inspired enough by the ancient albums and bands in that sub to create that kind of music in this second, almost third, decade of the 21st Century. I, too, began thinking of how we might restructure all of the subs. Having served a brief flicker of time on one of the subgenre committees, I saw how lucky we were to not be as overwhelmed with new submissions as some of the other subgenre teams were and began, then, to wonder how this system could more evenly distribute the work load among the volunteers. But, alas! Life got in the way and I bailed blah blah blah. Can/Should simplicity exist in a world that celebrates the complexity of music??? ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 06 2018 at 08:35
Great point! I know that I NEVER would have tried listening to any of the bands in the Indo-Prog/Raga Rock subgenre had it not been there. And I do love a lot of the music I've heard from it. Maybe the thrust of this thread is that there should be expansion! MORE subgenres, rather than fewer! More teams to then spread the work loads out a little more. (But then, we'd need more people with time on their hands to be willing to do the volunteer work....) ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 21:45
I second this idea. I think it's a great solution to the issue.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 08 2018 at 02:07
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If this is our rationale, then we'd better scrap Canterbury too. The one difference between the two? More people are into Canterbury, which in turn means that there are more people trying to shoohorn newer bands into a genre that really ceased to exist a couple of decades back. Sure I can spot a lot of modern acts that play in the Canterbury vein....but they are not part of the Canterbury scene. Look up the genre. It was and is a very small scene that somehow got a lot of scattered fans worldwide....which also means more people to keep the fire going...or at the very least convince everybody that Canterbury isn't really a scene as much as it is a sound. Hah! That is some risky historic backpedalling right there...to account for the whims of the fans. Indo prog raga rock is and was never that popular....so it sadly doesn't get the same nonsensical yet heartwarming treatment. I like it = keep it! I don't really understand it = scrap it! But yeah for the 10000th time: TALK TO THE SITE OWNER IF YOU WANT SOMETHING MAJOR DONE TO THE SITE! You want half stars? Go talk to the site owner. You want individual album tagging? Go talk to the site owner. You want a green frontpage? Go talk to the site owner. You want a kiss? Go treat your missus right. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 08 2018 at 02:17
This is a fantastic definition/solution, and I support it entirely. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: February 08 2018 at 03:37
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+1 for 'World Fusion', though such a tag may be harder to properly justify as part of a prog site. Still, a number of artists under Indo/Raga (like Abstract Truth or Satwa) are already not really inspired by Indian music but just by local folk in general. ------------- 
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 08 2018 at 05:03
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Just to be clear: I was being facetious with my earlier post. I don't want to see the Canterbury sub go because it is a good "sticker" for the music found underneath...just like the acts featured under Indo/Raga is tbh. Sure we could probably file most of those artists under prog folk, Kraut, psych or in the odd case avant, but my point was actually that if you look into the different subs a little closer, you'll fairly quickly be able to pick them apart. They're imperfect boxes put there to better locate the music we dig. That is all really. Hell every band found in Canterbury can either be moved to fusion, psych or avant. The Indo/Raga sub is only a soar thumb to an otherwise imperfect system. Album tagging has always been the way forth with perhaps fewer "big" subs like fx Psike, Zart, Symph and Modern. Underneath you'd get various stickers with all the small scenes and endemic sounds. Again there is no one on this board other than M@X who can do anything about it...and we can't reach him, so there you go. Great ideas often crave keys to the cockpit. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: February 08 2018 at 11:10
I sent a private message to M@X. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 08 2018 at 11:27
Good luck. I really mean that  Just an fyi: I don't think I can remember the last time anyone got a mail back from him. If you do get through to him then be a champ and ask him about the infinitely more important subject of removing those infernal captchas. A new subgenre is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the list of things to improve on PA. Way down. Personally I'd get rid of katjas, get a full system reboot and implement album tagging. The last thing takes care of any and all problems pertaining to subgenres and such. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 08 2018 at 14:53
Persoanally i'm not for getting rid of any categories here. I'm on the side of creating even more. I was a biology major so i have a thang for nomenclature  In reality i really love creating categories for nuances and there are an extraordinary amount within the huge umbrella term "progressive rock." Tags i would see helpful on this site would be firstly the splitting of post and math rock. At least for tagging. Andalusian prog is considered by many to be valid. Brutal prog is en vogue as of late reserved for the most unrelenting avant-proggers out there. Maybe even prog pop for some of the crossover acts. Classical progressive for artists who utilize extreme classical features. In a perfect world i would love a way to address the contuing fusion effect of the styles. For examples Krautrock should also have Kraut-fusion for bands like Embryo that seem equally Kraut-rock and jazz-fusion. Bands that utilize avant-prog and jazz-fusion could be avant-jazz-fusion or something. Yes, i'm aware of all these ideas going nowhere but since Drew started us down this rabbithole, i may as well share my proggy doggy dreams  ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 08 2018 at 15:37
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Just a note of caution that World Fusion is a very broad term and everything I have heard of that style over the years is not related to prog or progressive rock. The term tends to denote experimental folk music (in VERY broad terms). |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 09 2018 at 17:38
I guess this is where I've come out after all this: let's really shake things up by expanding with some mitosis. We'll call it "progress" (or, at least, evolution). ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 09 2018 at 17:40
DAVID! You sound like a disgruntled, burned out, underpaid ex-employee! What has gotten into you?  ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 09 2018 at 19:52
^ That wasn't the only post I made;-)
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 09 2018 at 20:32
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Uh....this is off topic but if we can't reach [email protected] happens if something happens to the board or it glitches or crashes or ...? Is that the end then...? ? ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 09 2018 at 20:42
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^That would indeed be one way to get rid of the Indo-raga category, but obviously not the preferred method ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 07:28
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Shouldn't there be a back up 'moderator' who has power to fix things here if M@X takes a powder..? ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 07:57
I always email Max when any of his sites crash, he's always pretty quick to fix those kind of things. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 08:07
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yeah.. in hindsight I should have sent my killer offer via email.. not in a thread he likely never read.. an offer he wouldn't have been able to refuse (sex crazed redheads rule.. especially satanic ones).. perhaps that is why he still owns the site.. and it continues to flounder... rather than Micky and Raff making Prog Archives great again hahah ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 08:13
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Never too late - send that email right away, will you, and count me in (redheads can make ME great again...eventually) |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 08:30
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I like you too much to torture you with her. Becks ate lesser men for breakfast.. which is why I have no problem with M@X losing his mind, soul, being physically abused with flying pots and pans and being emasculated.. though always with a smile on one's face. You don't want a part of that trainwreck.. only macho sadists and tough guy live by the seat of pants freaks like me enjoy airline crashes with that. However you know second thing I do after getting rid of Captcha is making you and Eugene co-admins. Mick and Raff (ie fire and ice) would be surprisingly hands off (the days of us being active day to day on the site really are over)... we do know who on this site is engaged and cares about the damn site and wants to see it improve. Those are teh people we would empower to make the changes the site needs to grow.. and perhaps regain the fun and passion of the old days. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 08:46
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*** spits lemon tea with honey over old valve monitor *** Noooooo, no more work, I want my readhead and to be like you !!!! |