Boston (the band led by Tom Scholz)
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Topic: Boston (the band led by Tom Scholz)
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Subject: Boston (the band led by Tom Scholz)
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 11:25
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Has there ever been any discussion as to whether BOSTON, the band that debuted with a mega-selling album in 1976, should qualify for this board? Too many "hits"? Too mainstream? Too "rock'n'roll"? If there's room for Led Zeppelin and Styx, shouldn't BOSTON qualify as Heavy Prog, or Crossover Prog, or even Prog-Related?
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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 11:37
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Is there anything about Boston's music that is prog? (I don't know, I'm asking) ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 11:46
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The topic seems to have been discussed at great length: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43401&KW=boston&PID=2687086#2687086" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43401&KW=boston&PID=2687086#2687086 I'd personally say yes for Prog-related. ------------- "Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar." |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 11:54
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Even if we overlook the ultra-cool "Guitar Spaceship" album covers, I think the following qualities would qualify the band for this site: 1. Finely detailed attention to multi-tracked lead vocals. 2. Virtuosic extended guitar soloing. 3. Virtuosic extended Hammond organ soloing. 4. While nothing the band has done could accurately be described as an "epic", they have no qualms about exceeding the 5-minute mark in track timing. 5. Perfectionistic production that is amazingly warm: the absolute antithesis of "slickness" or "sterility".
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 12:14
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Thank you for your reply: I was completely unaware this topic had been discussed before. But then again, it's been 10 years....
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 13:17
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Steve Wyzard wrote:Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 13:20
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Not particularly a fan of Boston.....but I don't hate them either, but to me they are certainly as 'proggy' as Led Zep or The Who and other bands that are on here under prog related. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 13:22
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^I agree Doc. But sometimes 3 wrongs don't make a right. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 13:33
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^ Well then....maybe we should just get rid of this whole category...... ;) http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=38 ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 13:40
^ That's only possible if we buy the website Doc, but I think that this guy called M@X doesn't really exist. Kind of like the Wizard of Oz!  ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 15:43
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So then....who is actually in charge of this asylum....? If it was me...Captcha would be gone and categories would shift as well as band inclusions. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: December 21 2017 at 19:59
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Not a fan of Boston at all, but I remember that my cousin bought me their debut album back in the 70's because it had a sticker on the front that read, "The perfect mix of Led Zeppelin and Yes". Not quite sure how to reconcile that because to my ears it sounded nothing like either one ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: December 22 2017 at 01:24
| Also not a big fan of Boston, but my brother bought their first album in the eighties and I bought some years later Third Stage, that I have been sold, cause haven´t found that as good as that first one. Heard also their second album that is not also as good as first. I think there are some prog in Foreplay/Long Time, maybe little Hitch a Ride too. Not anything against adding it here into some catagory (asking to me I haven´t got anything against any music somebody love). Just found out Magnum seem to be there too, so why not Boston? Yes, I know Magnum´s two first albums are quite prog, although many think them just AOR-band. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 22 2017 at 02:04
You've just described 90% of all rock recorded in the 70s. This applies to Elton John, The Sweet, Foreigner and Grand Funk Railroad. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 22 2017 at 02:30
Then again, I’ve only ever heard that More Than A Feeling song and it makes me puke 
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 10:32
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 10:40
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I like Bostons first album but I don't think they are very "proggy" I suppose you could argue Foreplay/ Long time could be prog related but that's about it.
Nice melodic rock stuff but not prog. |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 13:49
I agree ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 14:02
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Interesting comparison with Magnum made by Mortte. I've been a fan for years and thought the Kingdom of Madness album was quite proggy - especially 'In the Beginning'. However, over their extended career they have shifted from prog-related, pomp, ballads or just straight down the middle classic rock - often in the same album. Never progressive enough for the proggers, but never quite ballsy enough for the leather and denim crowd either. I'd say they are more prog-related than Boston, which might be why they were able to sneak onto the Prog Stage at one of the High Voltage festivals a few years back. A few tracks on the new album have a symphonic echo to them and the keyboards are higher up the mix with the new keyboardist. Thoughtful classic rock might be closer to the mark, perhaps. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 14:22
Says the too shy shy hush hush eye to eye dude. ------------- |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 15:50
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Boston, Styx, Kansas, Foreigner, Journey.....take a dash of this, a little of that, toss it together, get into the studio - BANG! FM hits.....I bet there's an FM "classic rock" radio station playing tunes from each of those five bands right this very moment. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 16:38
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 16:44
 ). Thanks Martin.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 17:58
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I appreciate them for how they sounded, a band that showed how crucial production is, and Scholz though simplistic and cheesy made some real contributions to tech guitar. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 22:35
About this thread I really understand why Boston can´t make it into pa because it seems to be hard these days even full progbands. On the other hands I´ve seen some those suggestions-threads where somebody has just suggested new band and almost immediately some collaborator has answered "added". No understanding why it is so, but anyway I have been very lazy to make reviews lately, so I don´t care.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 04:38
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I think Tom deserves far more recognition for what he achieved on the first Boston album - an album he basically made by himself in his basement. In that regard he is forerunner to the hordes of bedroom musicians roaming the earth as we speak. Does that make the music prog rock? Not really but he did a 'Prince' whilst the real Prince still was trying to cultivate facial hair. Pioneering a new way of compiling an album? That is more like it. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 05:21
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Love their first two albums. Big part of my early music listening. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 05:25
I agree, their first two albums are great. I also have their greatest hits compilation that have the highlights of their career, worth getting because beyond the 70s, their albums are quite uneven (if you ask me).
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 06:20
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