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Topic: Three more bands that..
Posted By: YESESIS
Subject: Three more bands that..
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 16:16
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These are three bands that I'm trying to get into atm. Which should I focus on first? |
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Posted By: mlkpad14
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 18:30
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Well, IQ is the only one I love out of these bands. The album Subterranea is an absolute masterpiece in my opinion. ------------- https://gamecrazyprofessional.weebly.com/ |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 19:12
You're familiar with Saga's best (earliest) work, and you've been listening to King's X, as you said in the thread upstairs... ...so, yes, I'll also cast a vote for IQ. The album you want to listen to immediately, front to back, with special attention to the lyrics, is Ever (1993). A modern classic! Then go back and listen to The Wake from 1985. Living Proof (1986) is a fine live document of that era, too. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
YESESIS wrote:Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 19:29
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This may be the first ever time I've voted for IQ in a poll! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 02:48
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Three pretty different bands. I vote IQ as they're the only band out of the three I like. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 04:04
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IQ is the best of these. However, I strongly recommend Saga's Worlds Apart which never failed me during a few decades. ------------- 
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 06:59
And me too.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 07:22
| Saga |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 08:00
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Voted King's X; I have "Ever," "Tales From the Lush Attic," Subterranea," and "Dark Matter." I like "Dark Matter" but on the others the music doesn't overcome the vocals, which I find annoying. King's X, on the other hand, has a lot more albums that I really like. I have not heard anything by IQ after "Dark Matter" and I've read great reviews, so it's possible I'd change my mind after hearing them. Not a Saga fan. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 09:05
| IQ is awesome. The other two - not so much. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 10:04
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Have to go with Saga for the consistency of their overall career. Would have been IQ, but their early albums are not great and sound dated. Love IQs last 4 or 5 albums, but Saga started off strong nd finished strong. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 10:29
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IQ ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 11:21
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Judging from your Avatar, I would guess you would get the most out of IQ. They are essential Prog listening. It depends on where your interests are, though, and they might be moving to something a little different. TBH, I know nothing about Saga, but I have a few King's X. They are an excellent hard rock trio, nothing symphonic about them. Even though the musicianship is of high quality, they don't do music just to show off their chops - they play for what the song demands. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 12:45
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Personally, I don't think that you could go wrong with any of these 3 bands. I am somewhat partial to trios that play hard rock though, so I cast a vote for Dug, Ty and Jerry. They are also the only one of these three bands i have had the pleasure of seeing live. ------------- 
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 16:27
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I should have posted this in General Music Discussions. Posting it here pretty much ensured a runaway win for IQ. I listed to Dark Matter a couple of times and liked it a lot, but so far I haven't been able to get into anything else by them. I tried The Road of Bones but wasn't getting into it. I used to have Worlds Apart by Saga on Cassette and liked it, and recently have discovered Silent Knight and like it even more(very good all the way through). I listened to Gretchen Goes to Nebraska by King's X on youtube and it kicked my ass. Those guitars man they were jamming. So idk, maybe I'll give IQ another chance. |
Posted By: **xyzzy**
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 16:48
| Well, here's a vote for King's X. I've never cared for the other two, personally. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 16:55
King's X is a kickass band. All three bands are great, for different reasons. If you love Gretchen, don't hesitate to hear the first one, Out of the Silent Planet, and the third album Faith Hope Love. With IQ, listen to Ever. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 17:28
| IQ > Saga |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 17:32
It's not true.. It's NOT TRUE! |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 17:35
Thanks for the suggestions buddy. Thank you all for your contributions to this thread. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 17:36
Oh that had to have kicked ass. Right on man, King's X forever! |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 18:01
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None are GREAT, but I like IQ more than the other two bands. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 18:21
Well they aren't Genesis or Yes lol, but you gotta admit this is pretty darn good.. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 22:01
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From these 3 bands, the only album I have heard is The Road of Bones... but I really loved that one. Too bad you couldn't get into it. However, I didn't think you would like it's concept either, anyway... However, perhaps the one you could check out next is Transatlantic. I do love The Whilrwind... and in general that must be more positive music. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 08:59
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Really close between King's X and IQ. I really like King's X's lyrics and that heavy hard rocking sound. IQ as I said in another poll just seems to get better with age as their last three studio albums are arguably my favourite from them. Saw King's X open for Porcupine Tree once in Toronto and I think they had the volume up to 11 as it was really loud. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 10:21
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I like Saga, but IQ are on another level. The Road of Bones Subterranea Ever The Wake are all solid 5* albums. The Seventh House Frequency Dark Matter Tales From the Lush Attic are all top 4* albums. Nomzamo and Are You Sitting Comfortably are less consistent, but still are worth listening to. And their live DVD Stage is sensational. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: noni
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 12:54
| Never heard of 'King X' but IQ is one of my favourite bands of all time.. Saga can be a hit and miss with their albums. Will have to look at how King X sound. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 16:11
No they're not. Stop spreading that lie. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 16:13
I bet they blew the roof off that building! That would kick so much ass. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 16:16
I'll have to check them out(sometime) lol. Thanks for the suggestion. And yes, I like music that is more positive. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 16:19
You're from Canada and you didn't vote for Saga??! That's just wrong man, I.. that's just wrong. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 16:21
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Anyway, all kidding aside, King's X is a kick in the ass with those guitars and have a Christian message to a lot of their songs. You really can't go wrong with them. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 21:53
That's why I would recommend Transatlantic... well, the Christian message (I had the impression you would be interested in spiritual themes already, but if you like particularly Christian stuff, then Neal Morse is the man for you, as well as projects in which he may be involved), not the guitars... for I didn't really check out any King's X to be able to say if there's any similarities (though, at least on "The Whirlwind", there's some nice sounding heavy guitars... though not really reaching the status of metal). |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 05 2017 at 12:01
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IQ - consistently great listening!
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 05 2017 at 12:03
Hmm, I'll have to check that out then man. Thanks again. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 05 2017 at 12:08
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Tight battle for second place between King's X and Saga. I've teased some folks on here already about saying that IQ is better than Saga but, so far, I've found both them and King's X far easier to get into than IQ. Starting to question my prog fandom a little bit here. But no, I still love classic Genesis, classic Yes, ELP, and Gentle Giant. So.. I think I'm still ok lol. I hope so. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 07 2017 at 09:47
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IQ, perhaps the best 'neo-prog' going right now..............imho Saga and Kings X are a bit too mainstream in their sound for me.... if you are into prog rock. As I said on the Saga thread they sound like Styx to me............Kings X is more about hard rock/metal imho. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 07 2017 at 19:26
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Yeah, this was admittedly a tough sell(on here) for either of these fantastic bands to win against the more consistently prog sounding IQ. But... I did locate a poll right on this very forum where IQ lost against Fish era Marillion. That made me feel a little better lol. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12374&PN=1" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12374&PN=1 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12374&PN=1" rel="nofollow -
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 07 2017 at 21:18
Well, that's not very surprising. Marillion (specially Fish era) are the number one Neo Prog band... the one that first comes to mind when the sub-genre is mentioned. I guess IQ is the second one. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 08 2017 at 07:12
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Not keen on King's X. I loved Saga when they were new but was a bit disappointed about where they were going (and I developed in totally different directions). Still love some stuff on their first few albums. IQ are a good band and more consistent than Saga in my view, but I rather respect them than love them. Saga gets the vote ever so tightly/ |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 08 2017 at 17:23
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^Right on. Saga and King's X need your votes people! But.. if IQ does win then I'll try to force myself to get into them I guess. I liked Dark Matter but I've listened to a few of their albums since then and just wasn't feelin it on any of them. But looks like I'll have to try again lol. Come on King's X and Saga!!
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 08 2017 at 17:34
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Here's a song from King's X that should have been on the radio constantly. Someone dropped the ball big time on this one.. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 08 2017 at 21:52
OK, if you really don't like IQ so much, I'll help you stick with that despite them winning this poll so easily. Just in case you hadn't noticed, the concept of their album "The Road of Bones" (which is the only one I have heard from them, but really liked a lot) is about a serial killer. If you pay attention to the lyrics, you'll find all the disturbed things on the mind of the "protagonist"... and I guess you won't like those lyrics. |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: November 08 2017 at 23:55
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When you listen to IQ - you hear echoes of Camel, Genesis , Yes and Floyd - Harvest of Souls - is a brilliant post-genesis suppers ready effort - I listened to Dark Matter on Friday last - superb CD. ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 05:16
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IQ without a doubt, but King's X were one of my favourite bands of the late '80s/early '90s. Their first 4 albums are stunning. Saga I don't know... |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 17:36
Ok, thanks for the heads up man. Btw I finally listened to The Whirlwind by Transatlantic. It was actually really good. Then I started listening to some Spock's Beard and was really liking that as well(seems like a band I could get into).
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 21:03
I'm glad you liked that one, and that it got you interested in a band you might like. I actually haven't gotten into Spocks Beard, and in general I'm not sure how much I would really enjoy them, but I guess I'll be giving them chances from time to time. If you are will be checking out things on that direction, you might just as well want to check out some Neal Morse solo too (I believe that's where he has done his most christian lyrics). And I guess The Flower Kings may appeal to you too (another band I'm actually still in need to check out better). And one last thing, though somewhat off-topic, if you are interested in some more christian stuff, Rick Wakeman has a few albums on those topics: "The Gospels" (or "the New Gospels", I think that one is the revised version) and "Can you Hear me?". The Gospels is very relaxed, with only New Agey keyboards, a tenor singer, and choirs... and lots of narration (which sort of puts me off). For me "Can you Hear me?" is better... just some prog rock with lot's of keyboards and choirs too... |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 21:06
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Yeah I gotta give it to K'sX or the great Saga. Dark Matter was disappointing. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 22:11
My man your suggestions are pretty much always good, so I'll have to check out some solo Neal Morse for sure(I definitely am liking Spock's Beard so far). And I'll check out this Flower Kings deal as well. And anything with my man Wakeman I can't imagine me not liking. So thanks again for all the suggestions. A lot of new stuff for me to try out here lol(but sounds like it should be good).
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 09 2017 at 22:14
That's actually the one album by them that I did like lol. But yeah, absolutely King's X and Saga all the way. Right on.
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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 11:54
| IQ! |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 17:38
I have been around here long enough that sometimes I can give suggestions of artists I don't really know and hit it right... it wouldn't be the first time  It was mostly because of the concepts with Neal Morse, and an idea I have about their music, even if I'm not really sure how much I could find from them that I would like. There was another time I suggested Magma to a friend of my wife who was into a lot of metal, really heavy and grunty metal, and she showed me a bit of the new stuff he was into, some rather weird stuff no longer necessarily metal. The thing is I had barely heard a few Magma songs and hadn't actually gotten into them, but he was supposed to have liked it a lot. I checked again a few of the songs and thought that I might grow to like them... at least a few songs... but I haven't really gone into trying them out.
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 21:55
Yeah Spock's Beard was right on. It sounds good and a lot of it has a good Christian message(like you had said would be true with the lead singer). As far as Magma, I obviously don't agree with the lead guy's views.. if they even are his views(I haven't seen anything yet with him either confirming or denying them). But, if you meditate at all, the rhythmic chanting on MDK works so well. For inducing a trance like state, I really don't know of any better record. But no, *snaps out of it* I've found good Christian music now(thanks to you) in Spock's Beard and Neal Morse and I'm going to keep listening to it. :)
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Posted By: ProgAlia
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 09:12
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 21:36
For rhytmic chanting... well, not chantinc, but rather hypnotic repetitive music, perhaps Corvus Corax would work. Not prog at all, rather medival bag-pipe music. But perhaps it's not the state of mind you would want to reach. You might rather imagine yourself in a medival pagan ritual, instead of a christian high state of mind. |
Posted By: Big Swifty
Date Posted: November 12 2017 at 02:35
| IQ all day. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 12 2017 at 18:25
Haha yeah. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: November 12 2017 at 18:31
Welcome  |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 12:49
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IQ ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |