Two Great Genesis Albums
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Topic: Two Great Genesis Albums
Posted By: YESESIS
Subject: Two Great Genesis Albums
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 22:50
Two truly great Genesis albums(without you know who).
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 00:07
Trick by a fair mile, because it's almosdt flawless;.. the weaker track is Squonk, but the rest are luminous and sometimes very fun tracks (Volcano, Robbery & Trick), which fits the funny and summery artwork
W&W still has lots of excellent momments, but it's weakest track is the awful YOSW, which on top of it is double or triple the time it neeeded to be. Other weaker momments are: Wot Gorilla, Afterglow... and some people might say Mouse's Night, but I like it a lot, despite lyrics that seem out of topic with the grey wintery artwork.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 04:50
I like'em both
this poll would be hard if there wasn't a "both" option
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 05:05
Both.Though I wouldn't say I like them passionately.
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 08:15
TotT was my first Genesis album and while I really like a lot of W&W, it can't compete with Mad Man Moon, Dance on a Volcano & Entangled. Now if they would have replaced Your Own Special Way with Inside & Out, I might have given a different vote 
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 08:28
Both. Great albums and fantastic music on them. Last time you could hear great guitar playing in Genesis.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 08:38
Trick but not by too much---YOSW is the big problem on W and W and takes away from it---should have put Inside and Out or nearly any song on Spot the Pidgeon to replace it.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 09:23
Both.
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Posted By: Chula Vista
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 10:48
When they first came out I liked TOTT more. These days I prefer W&W.
YOSW is ridiculously bad though.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 11:09
Both are great but a trick of the tail seems more focused and melodic to me. W&W while still good has too much that isn't really top notch(unlike TotT where everthing is great imo). I'm referring to "all in a mouses night,""eleventh earl of mar" and "wot gorilla" in particular. There also seems to be a lot of rehashing the same musical ideas on it which doesn't seem to happen as much on "trick."
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 11:10
Chula Vista wrote:
When they first came out I liked TOTT more. These days I prefer W&W.
YOSW is ridiculously bad though. |
What's so bad about it? I actually don't even think it's the worst track on it.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 11:21
Neither is great. Both are very good, but Trick is just that bit better.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 11:40
Trick. Definitely one of the best sounding Genesis albums.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 13:24
ATOTT.
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 15:21
Manuel wrote:
Both. Great albums and fantastic music on them. Last time you could hear great guitar playing in Genesis. |
Unfortunately yeah. I still love them after that but you're right.. they were never quite the same again.
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 15:26
Geez this is a blowout. I expected it to be much closer.. I have no problem with Your Own Special Way whatsoever and am disappointed that more people don't love that album as much as I do.
btw I voted 'I can't choose I'm just.. I'm too passionate about BOTH!' cause that's how I feel. Both albums are fantastic imo.
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 17:43
A Trick of the Tail is the winner... but not so far !
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 20:45
Wind and Wuthering for me. They both have lot's of songs I don't care about, and would have made a great album if combined. A Trick of the Tale has mostly several great pop songs, but from Wind and Wuthering, "One for the Vine" must be the best song this line-up did, and the one I could consider slightly comparable to the classic era. Besides, I do love the combo "Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers in that quiet Earth", which I consider the best Genesis instrumental. And Afterglow, though also pretty much pop, I do like a lot too (for me, the best pop song this line-up did).
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: September 09 2017 at 21:33
I voted for both. I love Entangled, Los Endos, Mad Man Moon and Ripples. I despise Robbery, Assault and Battery. I love Eleventh Earl of Mar, One for the Vine, Blood on the Rooftops, and Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers...In that Quiet Earth. I despise Afterglow and don't much like All in a Mouse's Night.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 06:07
Two of my favourite Genesis albums, but ATOTT gets the vote.
There are some extreme high points on WAW; Eleveth Earl of Mar, One for the Vine, Blood on the Rooftops, unquiet slumbers/In that quiet earth, and some bad lows; YOSW and Wot Gorilla, and some toe curling sillyness; All in a Mouses Night. It's a fantastic production job though, and Banks and Hackett make excellent contributions.
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Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 06:27
I'm approaching this as if there was no third option. So Wuthering get's my vote. Really the last great Genesis record before Banks and Collins got their way. have to say though both turned out better than anyone thought at the time. It's too bad that Seconds Out came out when it did.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 06:34
Kepler62 wrote:
I'm approaching this as if there was no third option. So Wuthering get's my vote. Really the last great Genesis record before Banks and Collins got their way. have to say though both turned out better than anyone thought at the time. It's too bad that Seconds Out came out when it did. |
Banks and Collins got their way? Rutherford was the first one to not want to do long songs anymore, if you watch videos of him talking about old albums, he is the one bashing the most. You'd think it would be Collins, but it's not. Tony complains more than Phil as well.
YOSW was written by Rutherford.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 08:14
Wind and Wuthering, but this is a rather close call.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 08:57
Both. Maybe not passionately, but two really good albums.
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Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 09:05
Cristi wrote:
Kepler62 wrote:
I'm approaching this as if there was no third option. So Wuthering get's my vote. Really the last great Genesis record before Banks and Collins got their way. have to say though both turned out better than anyone thought at the time. It's too bad that Seconds Out came out when it did. |
Banks and Collins got their way? Rutherford was the first one to not want to do long songs anymore, if you watch videos of him talking about old albums, he is the one bashing the most. You'd think it would be Collins, but it's not. Tony complains more than Phil as well.
YOSW was written by Rutherford. |
Yeah you're right in a way. After all who wrote Your Own Special Way, Reason I picked w&W was for side two. i always listen to Spot The Pigeon after W& W. Got a blue vinyl copy.
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 20:16
Some more votes coming in for Wind & Wuthering, right on. It's a great album man! Anyway, thanks everyone for participating in this Genesis poll.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 08:51
The "weaker" moments on Wind & Wuthering are my favorite parts. It showed that the band weren't afraid to try new things while retaining the progressive nature of the music.
And what else needs to be said of A Trick Of The Tail. It's pure perfection.
So yeah, both for me!!!
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 08:57
Hercules wrote:
Neither is great. Both are very good, but Trick is just that bit better. |
agreed, I very rarely listen to them anymore. When I do , it's generally the one-two punch of Entangled and Squonk
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Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 09:26
A Trick of The Tail all the way.
A lot of memorable moments for me; the other never clicked with me.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 10:24
Trick
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 14:32
YESESIS wrote:
Manuel wrote:
Both. Great albums and fantastic music on them. Last time you could hear great guitar playing in Genesis. |
Unfortunately yeah. I still love them after that but you're right.. they were never quite the same again.
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 15:06
not for me
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 18:22
Thanks everyone who voted for Wind & Wuthering. And to the ones who voted for the wrong album :p
No, seriously thanks everyone for voting and participating in this thread.
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Posted By: mlkpad14
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 19:05
A Trick of the Tail, by far...
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Posted By: BunBun
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 19:17
Both are some of my favorite albums, but Trick of the Tail is what made me a Genesis fan for life so I gotta go with that one.
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 19:34
BunBun wrote:
Both are some of my favorite albums, but Trick of the Tail is what made me a Genesis fan for life so I gotta go with that one.
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Awesome, yeah I could totally see that. Thanks for your input.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 19:42
YESESIS wrote:
Thanks everyone who voted for Wind & Wuthering. And to the ones who voted for the wrong album :p
No, seriously thanks everyone for voting and participating in this thread.
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It seems you're picking up som Micky attitude now
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 20:02
Dellinger wrote:
YESESIS wrote:
Thanks everyone who voted for Wind & Wuthering. And to the ones who voted for the wrong album :p
No, seriously thanks everyone for voting and participating in this thread.
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It seems you're picking up som Micky attitude now  |
*spits wine out on the monitor*
pfff I wouldn't go that far.
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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 21:52
^ You've learned from the best! 
Anyway, A Trick of The Tail for me. Not crazy about either album, but Trick has Entangled and Ripples, two of my favourite Genesis songs.
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Posted By: BunBun
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 22:18
^ Gotta agree, Ripples really is one of their best
Yet Blood on the Rooftops is my fav. Genesis song lol
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Posted By: BunBun
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 22:19
YESESIS wrote:
BunBun wrote:
Both are some of my favorite albums, but Trick of the Tail is what made me a Genesis fan for life so I gotta go with that one.
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Awesome, yeah I could totally see that. Thanks for your input.
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No problem, I always more than happy to talk a little Genesis 
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 12 2017 at 07:08
Wind & Wuthering, two of my favs songs are from W&W, "One for the Vine" and "Blood on the Rooftops", Superb work of Steve Hackett
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: September 12 2017 at 12:00
A Trick of the Tail
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 12 2017 at 18:36
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
^ You've learned from the best!  |
Indeed
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 12 2017 at 18:46
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 12 2017 at 19:34
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 12 2017 at 20:42
Progmind wrote:
Wind & Wuthering, two of my favs songs are from W&W, "One for the Vine" and "Blood on the Rooftops", Superb work of Steve Hackett
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 This.
ATOTT is too transitional, too fairy tale...W&W is a return to darker roots-
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 12 2017 at 21:16
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Progmind wrote:
Wind & Wuthering, two of my favs songs are from W&W, "One for the Vine" and "Blood on the Rooftops", Superb work of Steve Hackett
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 This.
ATOTT is too transitional, too fairy tale...W&W is a return to darker roots- |
Right on(both of you). Let's get Wind & Wuthering to win this %#$^& thing!
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 02:13
Tail easily for me.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 02:35
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 04:33
Wind & Wuthering
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 07:29
Both fantastic LP's but Trick is special. Really special.
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