What are you Listening to Right Now? Febus XIX
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Topic: What are you Listening to Right Now? Febus XIX
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Subject: What are you Listening to Right Now? Febus XIX
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 03:10
Seeing as the most recent Febus thread had reached the max capacity (going over 500 pages and the software starts to go a little Forrest Gump), I thought I'd start a new one off with the proper album that goes with such a thing  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 03:28
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^ Oh yeah baby! Finishing this one for the first time  And next  |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 03:34
 T: Epistrophobia (Germany-2016). Thomas Thielen. (18/20) http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53152" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53152 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkPSf7psOy0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkPSf7psOy0  Great White: Once Bitten (USA-1987) (18/20). http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-groupe-Great_White-nom_album-Once_Bitten-l-en.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/album-groupe-Great_White-nom_album-Once_Bitt… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg06B46VVys" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg06B46VVys |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 03:37
Hey-ho ranger Joe That Black Mountain album is one of my absolute faves from last year (haven't heard that Softs album though). Me now:  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 03:38
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Sometimes I just feel like some Hawaiian music: ------------- Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325 |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 04:57
These days I only listen to J-Pop. Like so many have,I discovered it through Babymetal,and now it's taken over my musical universe completely. Especially Nogizaka46,Keyakizaka46 and Sakura Gakuin. Insanely catchy songs,cuteness beyond belief,and a "Japanese-ness" that's totally irresistable. Considering that my favourite album of all time is Rubycon by Tangerine Dream,J-Pop does not seem the most obvious choice for a new musical passion for me,but it's nice that life still has surprises in store ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 06:20
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 06:57
I'm planning on to catch them in Seattle next month when I'm there, and I actually remembered you mentioning this was a great album so... good stuff anyway, I'm looking forward to that concert.
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Guldbamsen wrote:Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 07:05
That sounds awesome! I hope you'll have better luck than I had the last time I went to see them here (Bad sound and yours truly on acid for the first time in years - ultimately deciding that i'd much rather take a walk down by the nearby lake    ) I did catch em at the Roskilde Festival while they were promoting In The Future and that was a brilliant show. Both gigs though were decisively heavier sounding than their studio albums. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 07:14
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind...no acid on Black Mountain concert...
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 07:19
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Take it from someone who's been there done that (thought he was a sailor for 2 hours) Me: Finishing Grails' new album Chalice Hymnal. Love the new soothing electronic vibe. Now onto Island's Pictures. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 07:42
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 07:42
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 08:39
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Zaar - S/t ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 08:44
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Magma - 1001... ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 08:47
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Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 08:56
| Faust - BBC Sessions + |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 09:45
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Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 09:56
| HC - WC (SHM-CD) |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 10:11
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Caravan - S/t ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 10:36
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BLUE - Blue Nights ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 11:16
| U Totem - S/T |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 11:18
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Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 11:27
 Spaceslug - Time Travel Dilemma (Wroclaw, Poland 2017) Down tuned, stoner, doom, space rock trio (released today 2/17/17)
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 12:24
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Paal N-L - Notes From... ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 12:28
| Dedalus - Materiale Per Tre Esecutori E Nastro Magnetico |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 12:32
 IAmFire - From Ashes (Copenhagen, Denmark 2017) Stoner, desert, psych, fuzz trio
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 13:14
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IKYWMC's debut ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 13:50
 Squidlord - Squidlord (Asheville, North Carolina 2014) Instrumental, psych, stoner, doom
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 14:18
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 14:20
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The Tangent's debut ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 14:46
 Rhino - The Law Of Purity (Catania, Italy 2017) Heavy rock, desert, stoner with annoying vocals
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 15:10
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The Thing - S/t ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 15:27
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 15:51
| Gatto Marte - Leolombrico |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 16:23
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PT - Signify ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: doompaul
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 16:25
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 16:26
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Posted By: doompaul
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 16:43
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 17:02
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Quiet Sun - Mainstream ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 17:09
 Throttlerod - Turncoat (Richmond, VA 2016) Retro hard rock, stoner trio
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 17:38
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P Hammill - In Camera ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 18:20
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One Shot - EV ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 19:04
 Thorun - Chorus Of Giants (Cardiff, Wales 2011) Instrumental, stoner, sludge, doom
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 19:33
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Ecstasy - Out Of... ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 20:00
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Heldon - Well &... ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 20:22
Oh no! I was just starting to get a strong emotional attachment going with the old thread.  Anyhoo, part 2 of jazz night:  ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 20:55
 ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 21:01
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Guapo - OK ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 21:44
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DJ - New Dark... ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 22:26
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Yugen's debut ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 22:32
 ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: detonationbox0
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 22:43
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I made a main post about this, but a friend of mine just brought up a band I hadn't heard since being a senior in high school. It was a local band - and not being a fan of prog at the time, I, along with many others didn't give it the attention it deserved. They broke up years ago, but I'm revisiting it. http://youtu.be/Or_IEvWm6wc" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/Or_IEvWm6wc This was totally undiscovered - they lead completely different lives now. They have 0 chance of ever getting back together. It's what I'm listening to right now. Nostalgia is at an all time maximum here.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 23:06
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Ulver - AQFOM ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 23:27
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P Brotzmann - Never Too Late... ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: February 17 2017 at 23:28
 ------------- Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325 |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 03:23
 Nosound: Afterthoughts (Italy-2013). Excellent as always. (18/20) http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=41200" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=41200 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXKDM5wqx4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXKDM5wqx4 Blackfoot (USA) (18/20). |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 04:01
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Another new thread? I've been thinking about posting here again, seems like a good moment now! currently listening to: Gentle Giant - Three Friends ------------- 
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Posted By: Padjon
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 04:15
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 05:21
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umm hmmm.. great 1st album of the day ehh.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 06:44
all hail the mighty ABB 'At Fillmore East showcases the band's eclectic mixture of blues, rock, country, and jazz. "Fusion"is a term that came later, but if you wanted to look at a fusion album, it would be Fillmore East. Here was a rock 'n' roll band playing blues in the jazz vernacular. Forgot that pansy overintellectual english sh*t.. this was the very definition of progressive rock' breaking out the 6CD set and starting with the best.... the previously unreleased 3-12-71 show.. simply awesome! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 06:55
 Solar Corona - Innerspace EP (Barcelos, Portugal 2013) Instrumental space, psych, stoner trio
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 07:19
you're definitely right, Michael, 'At Fillmore East' belongs to the best live outings ever. Only know the standard album though, not the 6CD collection. Might be worth considering ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 07:24
 Solar Corona - Outerspace EP (Barcelos, Portugal 2014) Instrumental space, psych, stoner trio |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 07:56
Tom Dowd's quote not mine, but yeah, I'd say he knew more about music than anyone here hahah. Shame Martin and I didn't get to finish our mutual campaign of forum corruption and add the band to the site. Of course they belong, the Jazzers knew it. ABB albums figure prominently on many jazz review sites, jazz fans know they were a jazz fusion band hidden in the velvet glove of a blues jam band for the musically deaf dumb and blind hahah. Anyhow.. yeah Uwe.. you really should get it. Sure the setliest are the same, but little else is. It was those differences that made them such a great band, grand maestro Duane took them through different variations of the songs night to night. Think you've heard Statesboro Blues.. pffff... listen to many different ways you can hear it. It is right there with Live at Leeds as the greatest live rock recordings ever. Both great in the original form, taken to out of this world limits by the later expansions upon the original albums. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 08:21
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Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 08:25
 The Whirlings - Beyond The Eyelids (L'Aquila, Italy 2013) Instrumental, psych, space, stoner
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 08:33
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all hail Portland's finest... as Raff took control of the CD player hahah ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 08:49
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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 09:53
Right on! That 6 CD set of the complete recordings is one of the best gifts I've ever received. It's so mind blowing that they were able to keep up such consistency even though they were experimenting within their set lists every night. My favourite show of the lot has got to be the 3-13-71 2nd show, with the definitive Whipping Post leading right into the ultimate Mountain Jam, but you can't go wrong with any of them. ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 11:19
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Finished:  Now:  -------------
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Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 12:02
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Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black Is Beautiful -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 12:02
yeah I do hold a certain regard for the 3-12 show, for the very reasons it remained unreleased for 40 odd years. The ABB and a saxophonist? Awesome.. poor Juicy though. I did preorder it as soon as I had heard about it and it is worth every cent. Hearing and recognizing those subtle changes in each of the songs between the different shows is a nice exercise to keeping the musical side of hte brain still working. Much as it was back in the day when we all would listen intently for stylistic and sonic (the differences in tone between a 58 and a 59 Les Paul) to tell who was playing what. Dicky or Duane. All 6 disk rule though.. well worth the cost for any music lovers that don't have it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ALotOfBottle
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 12:08
 ------------- Categories strain, crack and sometimes break, under their burden - step out of the space provided. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 12:43
 Black Thai - Seasons Of Might EP (Boston, MA 2013) Heavy sludge, doom, stoner with dual guitars
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Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 13:25
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Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O. - Pataphysical Freak Out MU!! -------------
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Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 13:28
 The Re-Stoned - Reptiles Return (Moscow, Russia 2016) Instrumental, psychedelic, stoner, fuzz
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 13:45
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FZ - Wazoo ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 13:58
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Xhol - Electrip ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 14:26
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 14:39
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Ballister - Mechanisms ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 15:09
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Finished:  Now:  -------------
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 15:32
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MTG - All... ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 16:05
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------------- Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325 |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 16:28
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UK & SA - Uchisoto 1 ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 16:51
 The Samuel Jackson Five - Goodbye Melody Mountain (Oslo, Norway 2008) Instrumental post rock with a variety of sounds
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 17:29
| Hoyry-Kone - Huono Parturi |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 17:44
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J Zorn - Moonchild ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 17:53
 Sgt. Sunshine - III (Malmo, Sweden (2013) Mellow (sometimes heavy) stoner rock trio
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Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 18:05
| Massive Attack - Mezzanine |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 18:25
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Höhlenmusik Ensemble - S/t ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 19:31
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Love/Pupillio - You're Next ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 20:00
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Grails - CH ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 20:34
 ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 20:45
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T Yoshida - Barisshee ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 20:56
 https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=imgres&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjv5be5oZvSAhXoiFQKHaxfA4gQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalsucks.net%2F2015%2F12%2F17%2Freview-intervals-the-shape-of-colour-has-fantastic-figure%2F&psig=AFQjCNHBXHoJLY5wmvrZxsmC2Yrm0eu9Ng&ust=1487562810224537" rel="nofollow">  ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 21:26
 ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 21:51
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GYBE's debut ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 22:41
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5uus - CIC ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2017 at 23:25
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Yes - Relayer ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |