THEWHO!!! prog or not?respond and vote!!
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Topic: THEWHO!!! prog or not?respond and vote!!
Posted By: archon
Subject: THEWHO!!! prog or not?respond and vote!!
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:25
IMHO albums like "Tommy", "QUADROPHENIA", "Who's Next" have several
progressive elements.Guess that it doesn't mean nothing if they never
spawned 20-minute, side long epics, does it?Tell me what you think
about it.
so...for me it's YES!(they should be listed on progarchives)
FURTHER EXPLANATION IN THE FIRST REPLY ON SPETEMBER 1st!!!!!!!!!
&nbs p;
Angelo
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:33
SOMEBODY MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!
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Posted By: robertplantowns
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:35
I think they should be included as well. One concept album could
be produced by a normal non-prog group but two concept albums,
especially Quadrophenia which is a brilliant rock opera on par with
many of the prog concept albums we love so much is no accident, they're
prog. Just listen to Won't Get Fooled Again and tell me it ain't
prog.
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:38
robertplantowns wrote:
I think they should be included as well. One concept album could
be produced by a normal non-prog group but two concept albums,
especially Quadrophenia which is a brilliant rock opera on par with
many of the prog concept albums we love so much is no accident, they're
prog. Just listen to Won't Get Fooled Again and tell me it ain't
prog.
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So concept albums = prog? I guess Tori Amos is next.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:40
Trouserpress wrote:
SOMEBODY MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!
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I wish I could!
So my answer is NEIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NYET!!!!!!!!!!!!NON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:41
Trouserpress wrote:
SOMEBODY MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!
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NB - That says STOP, not STOOP.
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Posted By: daghrastubfari
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:48
robertplantowns wrote:
I think they should be included as well. One concept album could
be produced by a normal non-prog group but two concept albums,
especially Quadrophenia which is a brilliant rock opera on par with
many of the prog concept albums we love so much is no accident, they're
prog. Just listen to Won't Get Fooled Again and tell me it ain't
prog.
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I did, it isn't that proggish I think.
I don't think the Who should be included, though they are a good band.
There are lots of non-progartist that released concept-albums and
though they're songs developed from easy proto-punksongs to somewhat
more complex songs, I don't think they're prog enough to be listed
here. But well, I though the same with Queen and we all know what
happened.
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:52
THE WHO is not prog band, though they have done great music. You can add it, but I'm quite sure it will be deleted.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:55
ic: THEWHO!!! prog or not?respond and vote!!
I don't care for the tone of the topic heading either!
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Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:02
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:24
Peter Townsend=Genius writer. Penned some great stuff. Never went beyond a certain line with it though. Proggiest moments were the 4th side of Quad with Dr Jimmy and Love Reign over me. THe only other song that could qualify from that Album was the title song although John Entwhistle had some great bass lines in the opener, The Real Me. Tommy's only prog moment was the Overature and Underture. Who's next Arp synth sound was interesting as was the violin solo at the end of Baba O' Riely.
Other than that no. If rock opera=Prog then we need to include Andrew Loydd Weber and Tim Rice.
I vote No.
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:29
ohh, Jesus Christ
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:30
^ Or any stage musical!
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Posted By: Eelco
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:31
Posted By: Odd24
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:44
Eelco wrote:
Was Jesus Christ Prog? |
Andrew Lloyd Webber uses a lot of odd signatures on J.C.S. though...but Sting does it too and would you call Sting prog?
As for the Who's Tommy, there are also some odd signatures on that one but not as much as a normal prog band does. And also a keynote that doesn't change for a long time (just listen to Underture) but so does Trevor Horn and could you call that music prog? Also there are some classical chord movements used by the Who but so does Abba, Brian Wilson and early Elvis Costello and would you call them prog?
No, this discussion will never end (sorry Trous) but in fact I haven't answered your question too...
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:03
Though I love The Who I can not agree with you on their inclusion on the site. I do feel they had many progressive elements and were arty but this isn't enough in my opinion. The Who perfectly symbolize the Classic Rock catagory for me.
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Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:25
One of my favorite band, but definitely not prog! this is the ultimate classic rock band!
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Posted By: yesman72
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:28
OH FOR F'S SAKES!!!!!!!! THE WHO????? PROG???????
And Queen still don't belong here either. Sure these bands have similarities but that's because of the rock part. The Who and Queen are not progressive bands. Good bands, but not prog.
That's all i gotta say.
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:31
Trouserpress wrote:
SOMEBODY MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!
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I totally agree with you.
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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:33
Odd24 wrote:
Eelco wrote:
Was Jesus Christ Prog? |
Andrew Lloyd Webber uses a lot of odd signatures on J.C.S. though...but Sting does it too and would you call Sting prog?
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Off- topic, but about Sting, what does anyone think of the Police? I've always considered them more of an art rock band than new wave band/ punk band (which they were labeled when they came out). Sting, while not the greatest, was still a good a bassplayer, Stewart Copeland is a highly talented up drummer (I rank him up there with guys like Collins and Bruford), and Andy Summers has a classical/ Jazz background, and his sound of guitar must've rubbbed off one way or another Adrian Belew (or Vice-versa), as is has alot of similarites to 80's KC. Listen to the song "Contacts" for a good example.
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:34
I can see Queen as a borderline case, but certainly not Deep Purple,
the Doors, Led Zeppelin, and whatever next someone will come up with.
Now, Kate Bush, however....
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:40
I'm thinking of a phrase that rhymes with clucking bell....
The Who - one of the all time great rock bands - yes. Talented writers, performers and at least one top class musician (Entwistle) - indubitably. Prog?
NAY, NAY AND THRICE NAY!
NEIN!
NON!
IE!
ROGER DALTREY IS ONE OF THE FEW GENUINE HARD NUTS IN ROCK AND ROLL AND IF YOU WENT UP TO HIM AND CALLED HIM A PROG SINGER YOU'D BE WAKING UP WITH A CROWD OF CONCERNED ONLOOKERS AROUND YOU.
SUBJECT CLOSED!
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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 15:41
Yeah, I'd never really consider them full on prog.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 18:23
I love the Who. Possible my favorite non-prog band. They definetely influenced the genre with A quick one while he's away, Tommy, and Quadrophenia. The Album Who are You is almost solid Prog. But they aren't solid prog, they just dabbled in the genre, like led zeppelin.
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Posted By: archon
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 18:34
Ok..let me explain...EVERYBODY KNOWS that The Who are NOT prog.I'm
aware of that since they are one of my favourite bands..OK.Well, you
see, listed in this site are zillions of little one-shot
bands..ok?Well, they have surely the right to be in this site since
this is progARCHIVES..Ok well what I'm asking is:should the Who be
listed here ONLY REFERRING TO THEIR MORE PROGGISH ALBUMS since those
albums are perhaps more "great" than some from obscure one shot
bands?I'm NOT talking about "The who sings my generation" or "Live at
Leeds", I DON'T WANT THIS ALBUMS TO BE LISTED, but I'm talking about
"Tommy", "Quadrophenia"...
Listen to me..at the main page search for g-bands..you'll find an
Italian Symphonic Band called "I GIGANTI".I know them a little since
they're from Italy like me..Well they are in the same situation than
THE WHO.The were by NO MEAN a prog group..The made pop throughout the
years...around the early '70s they jumped on the prog-wagon, made 1(!)
album and jumped off right away.Well they're listed...I hope to have
been a little clearer..
So when I ask "The Who:prog or not"..i mean "The Who:PROGARCHIVES or not?"
Everybody is free to say what he thinks, but now the question is clearer..
Thanks
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 18:41
We uinderstand what you mean and the answer is no!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 19:11
Syzygy wrote:
I'm thinking of a phrase that rhymes with clucking bell....
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Posted By: dmille
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 18:12
Some bands are beyond category. The Who is a ROCK band.
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 18:43
Trouserpress wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
SOMEBODY MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!
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NB - That says STOP, not STOOP.
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, oh my that actually made me laugh out loud.
Oh and no, no the who should not really be here, but i wouldnt moan if they were, I mean its about as rational as queen IMO
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