'Worst' track on...LTIA
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Topic: 'Worst' track on...LTIA
Posted By: zravkapt
Subject: 'Worst' track on...LTIA
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 07:32
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Which is your least fave track from Larks' Tongues In Aspic? ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 07:47
| I'd say "The Talking Drum", I really like all songs on it though. |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 08:01
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I imagine that Book of Saturdays will get the short end of the stick here, but I cast my vote for The Talking Drum. While I generally like tense, gradually building crescendoes, Talking Drum does it a bit too gradually and monotonously to have any real effect. Love the screams at the end, though! ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 08:41
| The Talking Drum used to be my favorite KC track, and I still consider it to be among their best. Can't say I understand why so many aren't fond of it. Anyway, the obvious choice is Book of Saturday. Take that out, and I'd have to start flipping coins. |
Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 09:11
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If I have to choose, then Talking Drum. But it's a hard choice as the album in whole is great and there isn't weak track there... ------------- 
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Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 09:17
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I never get how one can possibly really love something that repeats endlessly. ------------- |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 09:26
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Book Of Saturdays
------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 09:34
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BOS ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 09:37
| Its an album that has definitive highlights - but still no worst and no vote |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 09:53
 I know that as a musician it's not an easy thing to do though.
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DDPascalDD wrote:Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 09:59
He might need some Swans or Godflesh to educate him  Or to stay on the more-intellectual side of things, some minimalism or krautrock (Can, Neu!) Perhaps some Ozric Tentacles as well?
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 10:13
^ In my case it was precisely Can or Neu! who revealed that to me. I really can't get into Swans though 
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 12:05
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Larks 1 ------------- |
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 12:07
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Went with Talking Drum, basically because I had to go with something. Overall, a fantastic album that doesn't have a bad track... ------------- He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 12:16
| I don't know, the only one I even remember what it sounds like is Part 1. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 12:54
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Book Of Saturday is so beautiful, Fripp's guitar, Wetton's bass lines and vocals, no way I'm voting for that one. If I'll have to choose I'll give it to The Talking Drum, it's not bad in any way just the least interesting. |
Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 13:12
| TTD |
Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 13:16
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Book Of Saturday, if only because it's the shortest. Still good, though. ------------- He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball! |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 13:22
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There ain't any, you troglodyte. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 13:26
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The Talking Drum, I have never liked it. I love Book of Saturdays, why all the votes against it?? ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 14:00
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Easy money isn't much of a track imo. Talking drum is a bit of filler too ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 14:12
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*casually walks back in* ..... ..... What have you people done to The Talking Drum?! I'm starting to feel like Atticus Finch here, defending the innocent and all that.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 14:53
| Exiles |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 20:32
| I didn't expect Talking Drum to "win" this one. I really enjoy that one, and as a combo with Larks Toungues part 2 they are the highlight of the album for me. I guess I have to vote for Book of Saturday... even though if I follow my logic for voting on Selling England by the Pound I would have to go for Larks Toungues part 1, for I don't really find much melody to enjoy from it, and it's much longer than Book of Saturday (actually, it is Larks part 1 that won't let me consider this one a 5 star album, while I could pass Book of Saturday). |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 20:53
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There's something about Easy Money that grates on me a little bit, even though it has a cool groove in it. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 22:38
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I love The Talking Drum. Really, all of the songs are very good / great. But since I "had" to pick something I picked Book of Saturdays. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 31 2016 at 09:10
| Another album that I like very much. No vote from me. |
Posted By: CapnBearbossa
Date Posted: August 31 2016 at 11:36
That 2-second silent track between LTIA-I and Book Of Saturday.... 
------------- Will higher mighty force redeem the one who dropped the moral compass, failed to fulfill the dream? -Ian Anderson |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 31 2016 at 21:05
Yeah, I guess I understand that. It was difficult for me to decide if I like that song or not, and then, I mostly like the live versions, I don't really enjoy the studio version that much. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 01 2016 at 04:24
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Hard to pick one. LTIA part 1 is a grower and it has some magic, so I vote for Book of Saturdays, ------------- 
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Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: September 01 2016 at 07:17
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First vote for Part Two, never understood the love ------------- 
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 01 2016 at 08:17
| None |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 02 2016 at 01:16
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The 2 LTIA tracks are hard to bear: I don't really hear the music in it, just a collection of random instrument parts all stuck together to make people believe Fripp and Co. had some "great plan" for music or something. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 02 2016 at 17:53
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^Someone get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: BunBun
Date Posted: September 02 2016 at 18:45
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easily talking drum. Pointless noodling. It doesn't detract from the album but it doesn't add much, i usually tune out when it plays without even knowing it |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 02 2016 at 21:36
I agree completley with you about part 1, but I really love part 2. It may be noisy and crazy, but I do hear the music in it and I love it. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2016 at 10:16
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I like them all. Will vote Easy Money because some things in this go against my musical intuition, although it works by and large. |
Posted By: CapnBearbossa
Date Posted: September 03 2016 at 12:38
Think of LTIA 1 & 2 as "chamber metal" ... if that helps at all. If not, Toronto 2015 (downloadable from dgmlive.com) starts off with a rollicking live Larks 1. A bit shorter and punchier than the studio original. ------------- Will higher mighty force redeem the one who dropped the moral compass, failed to fulfill the dream? -Ian Anderson |
Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: September 03 2016 at 13:34
What do you mean with against your musical intuition? It flows pretty natural to me, after some listens, that is. ------------- |
Posted By: Terrapin Station
Date Posted: September 03 2016 at 14:53
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"Least favorite track" doesn't really compute in this case for me. In fact, that doesn't compute in most cases for me. I'm not someone who feels that track quality varies on most albums. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: September 03 2016 at 16:40
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"'Worst' track on...LTIA" That's an easy one to answer, THERE AREN'T ANY.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2016 at 17:29
Well, intuition is hard to describe. I'm not generally against harsh contrasts but whenever Wetton sings "Easy Money" it seems to me that the song grinds to a halt and has to be started again with some effort. Drums and percussion don't seem really well coordinated to me; I feel drawn to either one or another in most moments but not to how they work together. Also much of the instrumental part between about the middle and 3/4 of the song doesn't fit with what for me is the main mood of the song, although it gets there later. That said, some of this is also original and I appreciate it as a bit of a challenge. It's not that I don't like it. I just decided I rather play the game and vote for something instead of taking the easy way out and saying "all are good, I don't vote". |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: September 03 2016 at 17:42
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Sounds about right ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 13:07
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The Talking Drum ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 13:09
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The Talking Drum for me - but it is rather churlish to pick out lesser tracks on such a quality album. I much prefer the 'postiive' viewpoint of more recent threads. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 13:27
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The whole thing. ------------- |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 13:39
 Not a fan I take it? ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 14:00
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^ Just one of those 'couldn't care less/on s'en calisse' day. ------------- |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 14:11
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It's actually "Book of Saturday" not "Saturdays." While that is my choice I don't think it's weak at all. I quite like it but it's the least perfect song on a perfect album if I had to chose one.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 16:54
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dwill123 is of course correct.,..there aren't any . ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 18:28
harsh man.. though not a fan at all of this period of KC.. I'd merely say everthing between the two bookends is worth a pass. The start and finish is at least mildly interesting. Still... if not for Raff putting this on occasionally.. I could die a happy man and not miss a thing if I never heard the album again. Love is blind... Raff forgives me for my Willie Nelson obsession.. I forgive her mid era KC obsession. Don't and never have heard anything really all that special about it myself. At least the following two had at least a song or two that got a big hell yeah from me.. but this one left me.. cold and sterile.. like KC could be before getting a healthy shot of life and energy with Belew. but that is surely just me.. and a few of my crew of forum malcontents  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 19:22
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^ In fact I love that one...a very silly, weird day indeed. Cheese, man! ------------- |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 19:28
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well.. umm... well ... you'll always be one of my forum malcontents anyway. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 19:31
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whatever that means. ------------- |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 19:44
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YES!!!! time to pull a Cristi...(© Micky 2018) mal·con·tent ˌmalkənˈtent,ˈmalkənˌtent/< noun
adjective
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 19:48
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Micky it sounds like you are describing yourself there.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 19:50
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yeah.. but even the Godfather gets lonely... my old bad ass crew either retired, ended up in unmarked graves or become f**king FORUM MODERATORS haha.. so I always try to draft (if unwillingly) new members. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 19:54
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aaaaaah ------------- |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 19:55
 ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: March 06 2018 at 23:43
| Music perfection so no vote from me. |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 00:19
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The Talking Drum Lol ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 08:24
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Getting back to Zavkrapt's post (and btw ...where the hell is he these days....was he the one that left of his own volition or one of the posse that Micky got banned...?) ;) Talking Drum and or Book Of Saturday are the two 'weakest' tracks .....and for the record anyone who doesn't like the Unholy Three by KC: Larks, Bible Black, and Red.....need to run, not walk, to the nearest audiologist and then see a shrink. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 12:14
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Book of Saturdays, obviously. ------------- |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 12:44
Aye, same for me. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 12:56
So people can't have their own opinions?? ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 13:14
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People can and do have their own opinions, the question should be "Do those opinions hold up to scrutiny?" A good, valid opinion is an informed opinion (based on facts), but since taste is subjective and depends on a host of factors, I leave aside such matters. Everyone can like what they like and not like what they don't like even if they can't always act on that and admitting such may get in trouble (at least until thoughtcrime is punishable). Anyway, the good doctor has winkies in his post, so not to be taken too literally. It is not my opinion that "Easy Money" is the least good song on the album, but I know that it is my least liked, but I do find the album generally doubleplusgood. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 13:21
Lol at the 1984 references. You are right, they have to have an informed opinion. The poll is telling us that people like "The Talking Drum" least than the others on the recording though
------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 13:37
| I don't understand all the hate for "The Talking Drum"... I really like it a lot... specially as a precursor for Larks part 2. The Book of Saturday is indeed somewhat useless for me, though. And Larks 1 I only learned to apreciate until I heard the new live versions. |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 13:48
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^^ The Book of Saturday fits the album well. After the madness of the opener comes this somewhat relaxed track ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 14:27
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 15:42
nah.. I love my fearsome reputation and it is well earned.. but I won't take credit for what I didnt' do. So don't blame me.. blame Captcha perhaps for his leaving.. or perhaps the general mindlessness and overall banality that permeates the forums these days. Daryl and I always got along well so I didn't run him off. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 18:34
en plein dans le mille, bébé. ------------- |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 07 2018 at 21:10
Yes, and The Talking Drum also fits the album well, as an introduction and slow build-up to the madness of Larks part 2. |