'Worst' track on...SEBTP
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Topic: 'Worst' track on...SEBTP
Posted By: zravkapt
Subject: 'Worst' track on...SEBTP
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 07:49
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Which to you is the least interesting track on Selling England By The Pound? ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
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Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 07:50
| I'll be surprised if anyone doesn't choose More Fool Me |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 08:00
Battle of Epping Forrest.... at least the other horrid song was short... Epping Forest is the Chinese Water Torture of prog.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 08:09
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Despite some great little keyboard-soloing bursts from Tony Banks here and there, `The Battle of Epping Forest' has proven unbearable and grating over the years for me, with Gabriel's campy character voices wearing pretty thin. `More Fool Me' has never upset me, just a short and sweet ballad interlude, nicely sung by Phil. Over and done before it can offend! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 08:19
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More Fool Me. ------------- 
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 08:36
| I think it's a near perfect prog album----More Fool me slows the flow a little but on the album it worked as an end to side one. |
Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 08:42
| More Fool Me |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 08:58
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Easily Epping Forest. More Fool Me is a nice song. It's nothing special, but it's well done. Epping on the other hand is neither... ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 09:19
Absolutely agree. "More Fool Me" is just a basic love song and is blessedly short, whereas Epping Forest drags on and on and on and on and on and on and on. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
micky wrote:Posted By: LakeGlade12
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 09:59
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Can't believe that Epping forest is currently winning the worst song contest. Its of the most entertaining Prog epics out there and one of Genesis's best tracks period. Nobody does comedy Prog like Gabrial-era Genesis does! No weak songs on the album, but the 2008 remaster extends the length of Aisle of Plenty by cutting off the ending The Cinema Show (my no 2 Genesis song) which ticks me off, so it gets the chopping block.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 10:06
That's the thing about comedy, it has to be funny to work. I don't find it funny or clever, just a long slog that messes up the pacing of the album. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 10:08
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I LOVE "The Battle of Epping Forest." (I've never seen anything like it, and it's right outside my door!) Used to love the whole album but Phil Collins' overexposure due to hi solo career/pop Genesis makes it hard for me to enjoy "More Fool Me" the way I used to. So that song gets my vote, no foolin'. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 10:29
| More Fool Me |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 11:19
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The Battle of Epping Forest. Never liked it. I actually like More Fool Me, a nice change of pace. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 11:59
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It has to be More Fool Of Me, that is easy filler and BOEF is something with lots going on which just didn't work out well and became boring. The lyrics are very nice though! ------------- |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 14:47
| More Fool Me is pretty lame but The Battle Of Epping Forest... I'd rather brush my teeth for 11:43 (++) minutes. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 14:50
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"awful me", without a doubt -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 15:12
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I used to really hate More Fool Me. Now I rather like it. And TBOEF is very funny with very clever lyrics and some great keyboard work. I just can't vote for any of them. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 15:56
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Epping Forest has always been the low point for me. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 16:16
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More Fool Me. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 20:29
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Firth of Fifth ------------- |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 21:03
Exactly my thoughts... I was thinking how to put them to words, but you just did it anyway. Only thing is, the question is "Which one is least interesting"... in which case "More Fool Me" might actually be the one that deserves the vote. But I went with the "Worst track" for voting. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 21:08
The thing is, I have never liked comedy in music, really. And Gabriel and Genesis have a way to make this "comedy" particularly annoying for me, wether it is in the music/melody itself, or on the lyrics/concepts... it just puts me off from the songs. I just don't like the images those "comical" words put in my mind. I guess the only comic part I actually enjoy (at least as far as I remember) is "Willow Farm" from "Supper's Ready"... that one really fits the flow of the music and it wouldn't work the same without it (and the live versions I have heard haven't done it justice). |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: August 28 2016 at 21:38
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More Fool Me is the weakest track and does not fit in well with the rest of the album. Collins lacks confidence in his voice here, it sounds so tentative. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 01:32
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If I should choose one then it is More Fool Me. It foreshown how Genesis will sound without Gabriel in their pop era. I never understood hate toward Battle, it's quite good song in vein of Get 'em Out By Friday. Agreed - it's not among their best songs but why it's so unpopular is beyond me. I consider I Know What I Like worse one as the years go by... for some reason it seems to me more and more boring with poppish tendency. And in fact I didn't expect Firth Of Fifth could have any vote... it's one of their materpieces IMO - but there you are... All in all, SEBTP in the whole is Genesis best record (with Foxtrot) for me and what I wrote above has no impact on this meaning whatsoever. ------------- 
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 03:35
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Forest is the only fun song on the album. Full of cool melodies. Silly vocals just like Supper but better song. Fave song on album. Cinema, firth and moonlit are fairly good tracks although they have moments which spoil them a bit ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 05:03
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More fool me. Pointless addition to the album. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 05:14
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Agree with the above! No better live either. At least Collins' previous outing, 'For Absent Friends' had that whimsical charm to it... Can't believe the bile for 'Epping Forest' - I have always adored that track! Gabriel thought it suffered from having bits added incrementally but I really don't care. Apparently, he was also opposed to the latter half of 'Cinema Show' being on the album as well.... When I moved to London, I made sure to visit Epping Forest (apparently the inside photos from ELP's 'Trilogy' were also taken there...) It's a nice day out but it does have a dark history... |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 05:25
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More Fool Me...Otherwise Mindblowing ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 05:29
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More Fool Me ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 06:15
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More Fool Me. I quite like The Battle of Epping Forest. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 07:47
Love Epping FOrest---it's funny cleaver smart meaningful---and Hackett's guitar at the end is sublime---it's a bit choppy like Suppers Ready is----but all the parts work for me as a whole.
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Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 13:13
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Effing Forest ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 17:03
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When Gabriel says pretty smells on cinema I cringe. I find the start of moonlit pretty boring too ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 29 2016 at 21:36
Yeah well, the thing is, I also rather hate "Get 'em out by Friday" too. As for the album being the band's best one, I truly agree... if only it weren't for Epping Forest I would consider it a 5 star album. |
Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 03:06
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I would agree Get 'em Out By Friday isn't by any mean stellar song (I consider it probably weakest track on Foxtrot), but even so I rather like it. It's sort of 'crazy' song Genesis has on some records (ie. Harrold The Barrel, GeOBF, Battle, Robbery...) Ususally they are not sooo fantastic, but they aren't awful too IMO. The point is I've never seen such averse (like there apparently exists toward the Battle) to Get 'em Out By Friday. Maybe I overlooked it... -------------
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 14:56
| You people are crazy: More Fool Me is awesome. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 30 2016 at 20:56
Yeah, it seems you just chose all the songs that I really hate from Genesis. Perhaps I could add "The Return of the Giant Hogweed", but it somehow doesn't fully fit the kind of sound... and I don't hate it so much... just a little bit. Given this logic, I guess I should also hate "The Knife", but I really do like that one a lot, specially the live version. |
Posted By: Terakonin
Date Posted: August 31 2016 at 17:44
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Gotta go with the masses, More Fool Me. ------------- You left a note in your perfect script Stay as long as you like I haven't left your bed since |
Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: September 18 2016 at 08:48
This. Replace that weak (read useless) Collins effort with a Nursery Era "Twilight Alehouse" (studio or live) and you may very get a perfect rival to the mighty "Nursery Cryme". No more, Mr. Nice Guy you are a lousy singer. Just stay behind that drum kit. ------------- You may see a smile on Tony Banks´ face but that´s unlikely. |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: September 18 2016 at 13:10
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Wow - 4 people voted I know what I like as the weakest moment..interesting.. I've always loved this track …loved the surreal lyrics, think it breaks its two bigger brothers Moonlit knight and Firth of Fifth up perfectly, has a wonderful, infectious chorus and inspired a great album cover..all from this little track!!
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Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: September 18 2016 at 13:18
Agree, great post ------------- You may see a smile on Tony Banks´ face but that´s unlikely. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 05 2018 at 03:06
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So glad to see I'm not the only one who despises More Fool Me (as it relates to the rest of SEBT, that is!). ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 05 2018 at 03:14
| And again no bad tracks! |
Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: March 05 2018 at 09:54
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Never been a big fan of After The Ordeal; fairly boring instrumental that doesn't really cover any ground that's not already on the album. I actually like More Fool Me; I think Collins sounds great when he does his multi-tracked harmonies like that (e.g., on Entangled or Star Of Sirius). ------------- https://borealkinship.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My prog band - Boreal Kinship |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 05 2018 at 10:11
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Sorry - very boring - but I honestly can't fault any track, as they all have their place. More Fool Me, After the Ordeal and Aisle of Plenty each play a part in the album and provide light and shade to the more epic pieces. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |