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Topic: 10 Bands I'm Not Into
Posted By: zravkapt
Subject: 10 Bands I'm Not Into
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 15:20
I've heard a handful of songs from most of these that I liked, but never a full album. Some of you like some of these more than me, so which is yer fave?

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Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 15:42
Marillion


Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 15:48
I'm thinking about liking Dream Theatre, but not sure I'm ready for any kind of commitment.


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 15:49
IQ, Riverside, Marillion, Renaissance and Focus are all amongst my favourite bands.

And I like all the others, except Dream Theater, whom I can tolerate.

If I had to pick one, it would be IQ.


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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 15:49
Really ?   Wink


Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 15:54
Renaissance 

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Posted By: bankstatement
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 15:58
I'll go with Renaissance. Opeth and Harmonium were oh so close.


Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 16:09
Opeth is my favorite of these


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 16:39
I'm surprised at some of the bands on nthe lisdt, but Harmonium is the most shocking IMHO, with Focus a solid second

Those would be my choices, with Angla and Renaissance tied for third spot


Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 17:19
Went on a Renaissance kick recently actually. Always underrated them, but they are probably one of the most emotionally lucid 70s symph bands.

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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 17:41
At first I was struggling between either IQ or Anglagard but then I saw Harmonium and cast my vote right away.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 17:46
A near draw between Renaissance and PT, Renaissance it is by a whisker.
As a collective the list as a whole is okayish but not quite as good as the "bands you probably don't like".


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 17:46
I'll go with Harmonium, cos' they're like Canadian, eh?

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 18:16
Opeth

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 19:05
Änglagård over opeth.

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 19:39
Porcupine Tree
Harmonium
Anglagard
Renaissance

Couldn't care less about the rest.


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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 20:09
PT and Opeth...

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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 20:19
Harmonium

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Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 20:26
I'm seldom familiar with all of the bands in a poll this size but I am this time.
Anglagard gets the nod.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 21:07
To be honest I'm not "into" any of these artists either.

Opeth would be the most likely band I'd play.



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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 21:12
Voted for Porcupine Tree closely followed  by Harmonium, Marillion, IQ, Opeth, Anglagard, Riverside and Focus.
I cant stand Dream Theater post Kevin Moore, really like awake and Images and words but the other albums dont click on me
I cant get into Renaissence


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 21:51
I actually like all of this band... only that from IQ I only know The Road of Bones (which I love), from Anglagard I only know Hybris (which I love), and from Opeth I moslty digged non-grunting songs, for I'm not really into that style of singing (though I do love The Drapery Falls). However, I believe I must give my vote to Dream Theater.


Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 22:03
Surprised Änglagård doesn't have more votes, but I'd be a liar if I didn't vote Opeth.

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 23:24
some good bands there but Focus has moved me the most


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 00:47
Renaissance and IQ, I don't care about Porcupine Tree and Riverside, I do like DT old material and Focus


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 02:38
Hard to pick one of there bands. All are good, but none of these belongs to my real favourites. I vote for Focus, my fellow countrymen who gave us Focus II (later known as Moving Waves) and Hamburger Concerto.

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 06:17
Renaissance, followed by IQ, Marillion and Dream Theater. Just a bit of Opeth. I don't dig the others.


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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 07:22
could have voted for PTree or Focus or Anglagard

but Riverside needed the vote


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Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 08:04
Is the idea of this thread to name the bands on the list that we do actually like?
In that case the answer for me is;
IQ, Marillion and Porcupine Tree


Posted By: ALotOfBottle
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 08:20
I am not really into any one of those, but I used to really like Focus at one point.


Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 09:20
I'm guessing you're a 70s-proghead then...


Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 10:01
Yeah, tell-tale 70s head - Renaissance, Focus and Harmonium.

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 10:03
Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Went on a Renaissance kick recently actually. Always underrated them, but they are probably one of the most emotionally lucid 70s symph bands.

wow that is really well put  Smile
Renaissance for me


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 10:15
Except couple or more of these bands, I really like at least one album of all bands in the list.  The ones I am most into would be Renaissance and Marillion and as between those, an easy vote for Renaissance.


Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 10:25
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Porcupine Tree
Harmonium
Anglagard
Renaissance

Couldn't care less about the rest.

Ditto,
enjoy the above 4 but they aren't favs


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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 10:33
Anglagard


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 11:06
Hmmm....Renaissance , Focus,.... then PT and IQ.
I like the old classic prog more  so they always come before the newer ones for me.


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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 11:57
Can relate to quite a couple of your dislikes: Porcupine Tree , Riverside,Änglagård, Opeth all not my cup of tea either. But come on, IQ is a gerat band!

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 17:02
There's only one band on there that I don't like and that's Renaissance. Out of the rest my top three would be PT, Anglagard and Riverside.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 17:49
IQ -> Opeth -> Marillion -> Focus...

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 18:19
Marillion by far over IQ and PT.

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: May 10 2016 at 19:40
The two bands I don't get at all are Dream Theater and Opeth. I just never found a way into them. The rest, like you said, I like many songs by them, but not really albums. Marillion and IQ would be my two favorites on this list; they've written some great tracks. 


Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: May 11 2016 at 12:56
Interesting poll....My opinion varies about these bands a lot. I am not into Renessaince and Anglagard - never understood what is so special about them. Besides that I have similar feeling about Marillion (I prefer both solo Fish and Hogarth, and I love Arena). Dream Theater with Moore and until Six Degrees are mostly great, after that sharp decrease to almost pointless band for me. As for IQ, I think they have grown with time contrary to most of prog bands, releasing particulary great albums in a new millenium, peaking with Road of Bones. Focus is great during period Moving Waves - H.C., Harmonium albums are excellent (especially 2. and 3.). Riverside is constantly fine, but not really exceptional for me, Opeth, especially post-Still Life is excellent until these days. Porcupine Tree are favorites here - constantly great.

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 11 2016 at 14:16
Marillion (Fish-era primarily), followed by Änglagård and Harmonium.

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Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: May 11 2016 at 15:23
I'll take IQ for 500 please.

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 11 2016 at 23:21
Renaissance for me....amazing vocals and instrumental talent.  RIP John Tout.


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Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: May 12 2016 at 07:28
Still can't understand why Opeth are considered prog.  I saw them live in 2010 and they were appalling.


Posted By: O666
Date Posted: May 12 2016 at 08:09
Very hard poll for me. I like some of them equal but I like to vote :

1 - Focus = Marillion (Fish era) = Renaissance  
2 - Porcupine tree = Harmonium = Riverside = Anglagard

I pick FOCUS today.


Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: May 14 2016 at 05:12
Had to vote for Focus. One of the few prog bands (like KC) who can write really good material (Moving Waves, Hamburger Concerto) and improvise (Focus 3) with some possibly less essential albums (Mother Focus, Ship Of Memories, Con Proby). P Tree have a vast variety of music that is not easily dismissed due that variety. Riverside are very intriguing to me.

Marillion are game of two haves . I go for the Fish era.

I've albums from Dream Theatre, IQ, Opeth and others, some bootlegs but for various non-reasons have yet to get me going...




Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: May 14 2016 at 11:36
Renaissance. If you never listened to a full album, please check out 'live at Carnegie Hall'! Heart
And also Marillion (Fish-era).


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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: May 15 2016 at 19:25
I like all these bands except Harmonium.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 15 2016 at 22:06
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Renaissance. If you never listened to a full album, please check out 'live at Carnegie Hall'! Heart
And also Marillion (Fish-era).


Yeah, that's the album I started with Renaissance, and it's wonderful. I now have that one, plus Ashes are Burning, Turn of the Cards, and Scheherazade. I love them all, but still my favourite songs on my favourite versions come from Carnegie Hall. I'm still wonderig about getting the next 3 albums... for what I have heard, they don't seem to reach the same brilliance they achieved with the ones I already have.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 16 2016 at 03:53
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Renaissance. If you never listened to a full album, please check out 'live at Carnegie Hall'! Heart
And also Marillion (Fish-era).


Yeah, that's the album I started with Renaissance, and it's wonderful. I now have that one, plus Ashes are Burning, Turn of the Cards, and Scheherazade. I love them all, but still my favourite songs on my favourite versions come from Carnegie Hall. I'm still wonderig about getting the next 3 albums... for what I have heard, they don't seem to reach the same brilliance they achieved with the ones I already have.
 
I see Novella as an extension of the Scheherazade approach but with both more focus and emotional resonance. The most emotional part of Sch is a pop-folk ballad, enough said. Song for all Seasons kept the orchestra but added more rhythm, more infectiousness, not a bad thing at all.
 
While I do like both Novella and SFAS more than Sch, I think the gap between these three albums isn't much and likewise with Ashes are burning (though that's a different style). Turn of the Cards is the weakest of the bunch. I reckon that is because it was a transition album where they were moving to the archetypal Renaissance sound but would execute it better on subsequent albums. Cards is kinda patchy and even the highs, barring Things I don't understand, don't approach the highs of the other albums.


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: May 16 2016 at 12:14
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Renaissance. If you never listened to a full album, please check out 'live at Carnegie Hall'! Heart
And also Marillion (Fish-era).


Yeah, that's the album I started with Renaissance, and it's wonderful. I now have that one, plus Ashes are Burning, Turn of the Cards, and Scheherazade. I love them all, but still my favourite songs on my favourite versions come from Carnegie Hall. I'm still wonderig about getting the next 3 albums... for what I have heard, they don't seem to reach the same brilliance they achieved with the ones I already have.
 
I see Novella as an extension of the Scheherazade approach but with both more focus and emotional resonance. The most emotional part of Sch is a pop-folk ballad, enough said. Song for all Seasons kept the orchestra but added more rhythm, more infectiousness, not a bad thing at all.
 
While I do like both Novella and SFAS more than Sch, I think the gap between these three albums isn't much and likewise with Ashes are burning (though that's a different style). Turn of the Cards is the weakest of the bunch. I reckon that is because it was a transition album where they were moving to the archetypal Renaissance sound but would execute it better on subsequent albums. Cards is kinda patchy and even the highs, barring Things I don't understand, don't approach the highs of the other albums.

Rogerthat and I have had many enjoyable discussions on this subject.  You can also check out our reviews on ASFAS (as well as that of my progfolk peer clemofnazareth).  To me ASFAS is a sparkling album that has the band showing more life than in any other studio release, but there are a few poppier numbers but also a couple of superb epics that work on multiple levels.  Novella is more low energy and serious but very beautiful.  As a fan already, you will hopefully be inclined to give these a chance and not write them off after one or two listens.  I say go for it and let us know what you think, perhaps in the Renaissance zone.
Unlike rogerthat, I think "Turn of the Cards" is one of their 3 best.  (Turn, Ashes and ASFAS).
I really don't like Azure D'Or.  They dropped the orchestra and doubled and tripled up on synthesizers and it just sounds plastic.  


Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: May 16 2016 at 19:10
Dream Theater (the only modern prog band I really like) and Renaissance. Opeth and IQ are ok in a good way...
Porcupine Tree lacks skill, soul and passion. Easily my least favorite band here. Riverside and Marillion are "meh".

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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 16 2016 at 19:19
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:


Rogerthat and I have had many enjoyable discussions on this subject.  You can also check out our reviews on ASFAS (as well as that of my progfolk peer clemofnazareth).  To me ASFAS is a sparkling album that has the band showing more life than in any other studio release, but there are a few poppier numbers but also a couple of superb epics that work on multiple levels.  Novella is more low energy and serious but very beautiful.  As a fan already, you will hopefully be inclined to give these a chance and not write them off after one or two listens.  I say go for it and let us know what you think, perhaps in the Renaissance zone.
Unlike rogerthat, I think "Turn of the Cards" is one of their 3 best.  (Turn, Ashes and ASFAS).
I really don't like Azure D'Or.  They dropped the orchestra and doubled and tripled up on synthesizers and it just sounds plastic.  

Ken, I have posted a youtube vid of a performance of Sounds of the Sea from their London concert this year in the Renaissance Zone. You might want to check it out. 


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: May 16 2016 at 20:44
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:


Rogerthat and I have had many enjoyable discussions on this subject.  You can also check out our reviews on ASFAS (as well as that of my progfolk peer clemofnazareth).  To me ASFAS is a sparkling album that has the band showing more life than in any other studio release, but there are a few poppier numbers but also a couple of superb epics that work on multiple levels.  Novella is more low energy and serious but very beautiful.  As a fan already, you will hopefully be inclined to give these a chance and not write them off after one or two listens.  I say go for it and let us know what you think, perhaps in the Renaissance zone.
Unlike rogerthat, I think "Turn of the Cards" is one of their 3 best.  (Turn, Ashes and ASFAS).
I really don't like Azure D'Or.  They dropped the orchestra and doubled and tripled up on synthesizers and it just sounds plastic.  

Ken, I have posted a youtube vid of a performance of Sounds of the Sea from their London concert this year in the Renaissance Zone. You might want to check it out. 

cool!  It's too bad it wasn't played at the Cathedral concert or at least not in the video


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 16 2016 at 21:26
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Renaissance. If you never listened to a full album, please check out 'live at Carnegie Hall'! Heart
And also Marillion (Fish-era).


Yeah, that's the album I started with Renaissance, and it's wonderful. I now have that one, plus Ashes are Burning, Turn of the Cards, and Scheherazade. I love them all, but still my favourite songs on my favourite versions come from Carnegie Hall. I'm still wonderig about getting the next 3 albums... for what I have heard, they don't seem to reach the same brilliance they achieved with the ones I already have.

 
I see Novella as an extension of the Scheherazade approach but with both more focus and emotional resonance. The most emotional part of Sch is a pop-folk ballad, enough said. Song for all Seasons kept the orchestra but added more rhythm, more infectiousness, not a bad thing at all.
 
While I do like both Novella and SFAS more than Sch, I think the gap between these three albums isn't much and likewise with Ashes are burning (though that's a different style). Turn of the Cards is the weakest of the bunch. I reckon that is because it was a transition album where they were moving to the archetypal Renaissance sound but would execute it better on subsequent albums. Cards is kinda patchy and even the highs, barring Things I don't understand, don't approach the highs of the other albums.


Rogerthat and I have had many enjoyable discussions on this subject.  You can also check out our reviews on ASFAS (as well as that of my progfolk peer clemofnazareth).  To me ASFAS is a sparkling album that has the band showing more life than in any other studio release, but there are a few poppier numbers but also a couple of superb epics that work on multiple levels.  Novella is more low energy and serious but very beautiful.  As a fan already, you will hopefully be inclined to give these a chance and not write them off after one or two listens.  I say go for it and let us know what you think, perhaps in the Renaissance zone.
Unlike rogerthat, I think "Turn of the Cards" is one of their 3 best.  (Turn, Ashes and ASFAS).
I really don't like Azure D'Or.  They dropped the orchestra and doubled and tripled up on synthesizers and it just sounds plastic.  



OK. Mostly what I have heard from post Scheherazade albums are a live performance on video that came with the remastered edition of Scheherazade itself, but strangely enough it was from the Azure D'Or era; it had Jeckyll and Hyde and other songs from the same album, and those did nothing for me. Also, I have heard on YouTube Northern Lights, which I have read is perhaps the most succesful song they have done, and it also didn't interest me. I guess I must have heard at least once some other of the longer songs from Novella or A Song for all Seasons in order for me to come to the conclusion that I wasn't interested to check out those three albums as a priority, but in the end sooner or later I would have to come to it. Perhaps I'll try to do it sooner then, to complete my collection of the albums from the classic line-up of the band, at least (though I still have very low hopes for Azure D'Or at least). On the other hand, from the 3 studio albums that I do have, Turn of the Cards is definitley my favourite one.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 16 2016 at 23:59
I think Novella is an album that needs investment of time. I didn't really like it much the first few times I listened to it but it grew on me and I would say it is the most well put together album of the mk ii line up. Whereas On the frontier/I think of you are somewhat dispensable, every track on Novella is strong and the music also flows well (where Sch is a bit all over the place starting with jazz going to folk pop etc).
 
As for Song for all seasons just check out Day of the dreamer and the title track. If those don't interest you, the album is not for you. I like the rocking momentum, upbeat mood of Dreamer; a nice change from their usual melancholy.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 17 2016 at 21:33
OK, I'll keep that in mind. Actually, I'm used to having albums need several listens to grow on me... it kind of comes with the package of getting into prog.


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: May 21 2016 at 08:50
Actually I quite like most of these.
IQ, Renaissance, Riverside  Marillion, Focus, early Dream Theater the most,  Opeth and Anglagard the least.



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Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 13:50
Harmonium

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