A Stirring Drink Poll
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Topic: A Stirring Drink Poll
Posted By: Dean
Subject: A Stirring Drink Poll
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:00
Normally I don't stir drinks in a circular-motion because I'm an agitator who uses the spoon in a jiggling-motion as you would a whisk. The reason for doing it this way is simple - it dissolves the sugar quicker, I've proven this to myself using clear liquids and glass cups to be fairly confident this is true and not some affectation designed to annoy others. Stirring creates a whirlpool that concentrates the undissolved sugars into the quiet-spot in the centre whereas jiggling causes turbulence that keeps the granules in motion.
This morning my dear lady wife was in a fragile state so as not to compound her headache with the noisy rattling of spoon against china I stirred her tea in a circular-motion. ...Only to be chastised for not stirring in a clockwise direction. So I changed direction to appease her and found that to be no more or no less comfortable or natural for me, yet when I went to stir my own tea I found myself stirring it in an anti-clockwise direction again so it seems I have a natural bias towards that direction.
Since I could see no logical/scientific reason for there to be any rational difference in the direction of the stir I presume here that there was some irrational, superstition-based justification for admonishing an anti-clockwise stirring associated with the devil or somesuch as there is in left-sided things (sinister, gauche, Judas etc.). But it did get me thinking.
I'm not ambidextrous but I'm not wholly right-handed either. While I favour my right hand in most things and do a few things left-handedly (stop giggling at the back!), there are a times where I have no preference at all. [I have no left-right preference when playing darts, but as a friend of mine once remarked - I'm rubbish at throwing arrows with either hand]. I suspect some of that could be related to my dyslexia, though not all dyslexics have problems with left & right and not all people who have difficulty telling left from right are dyslexic, I am a left-right confused dyslexic.
The idea of the poll is pretty straight-forward two-part question to see if there is a correlation between favoured drink-stirring direction and left or right handedness.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:11
Left-handed, clockwise (from my P.O.V.)
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:14
It sounds like you've stirred several drinks today already, Deano, and I don't mean tea.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:19
^ It's Saturday morning - what do you expect?
As for myself: I am righthanded (ie normal) and stir in an anticlockwise fashion - if stirring is needed. Much more of a shaker fan myself. That obviously destroys the fizz but I generally don't drink drinks with fizz. Beer is for that.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:20
It's only 9:20 am here in sunny Hampshire, Davideo, so the sun isn't over the yardarm yet. I am on my third mug of tea thou'
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:22
circular motion with a vertical sense
But in a bottle, I like better shaken than stirred
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:24
Dean wrote:
It's only 9:20 am here in sunny Hampshire, Davideo, so the sun isn't over the yardarm yet. I am on my third mug of tea thou' |
Ah, caffeine. Or it's me-- on my third whisky here.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:25
That's right you're (slightly) behind. As a member of the aweinspiring Club of David I'm proud to be on my second serving of Gammel Dansk (horrible snaps) and coffee.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 03:33
Yeah it's prime drinkin' time in California. And I'm a wildman, so ...
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 04:28
...well, we won't say what my afternoon journey has consisted of........(kite flying aside......)
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 04:47
Right-handed, clockwise.
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Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 05:10
Right-handed and counter-clockwise, but if left-handed clockwise.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 05:40
Almost exclusively right and clockwise.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 08:06
Atavachron wrote:
It sounds like you've stirred several drinks today already, Deano, and I don't mean tea.
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More than a couple if this poll is any indication....
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 08:28
awesome....
A little too early to join you there dean... not by what the clock says of course.. that has never stopped me. It is just I haven't finished my morning coffee yet.. I do have a routine to follow you know.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 09:59
I usually go clockwise, but soemtimes i add up and down motion and end by stirring against the current. If stirring milk into tea or something i don't stir much at all and just jiggle the spoon a bit because by the time i go to drink it'll have properly mixed.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 10:10
Left handed, clockwise.
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 10:12
Right-handed, no preference. I'm not that good at stirring anyway.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 10:26
lack of practice here... can't say I have stirred anything in some time. I take my coffee black.. I mix drinks the old fashioned way.. dump in 3 parts booze and 1 part whatever.. and mix them the traditional way.. through moving the glass in vigorous up and down motions to ones lips..
no vote.. sorry Dean... but great poll man..
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 11:44
Tom Ozric wrote:
Left-handed, clockwise (from my P.O.V.) |
This. However, I usually drink vodka or tequila without a mixer.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 11:47
I used to take my coffee black but can no longer drink it as it's a migraine-trigger for me so can only get my caffeine-hit from tea. White and green teas I take neat but black tea needs milk and a touch of sugar.
If the mixer is fizzy then usually that's enough to combine sufficiently with the spirit. But other than that, shaken or stirred, who cares as long as it's alcoholic and tastes the same from top to bottom (...like, what is the point of a tequila sunrise?). If I'm ordering it in a bar then I'll trust that the barman knowns what he's doing.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 12:15
If it's black tea, I might add a splash of milk to take the edge off if it's something like an english breakfast blend, but if it's something like a darjeeling or jin jun mei or lapsang souchong, I'll have it black. Never ever anything in other kinds of tea though.
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Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 12:21
I am a creature of habit (and a tad OCD). When it comes to things that I do regularly I always do them the exact same way. I use French Vanilla creamer in my coffee. I am right handed and I always stir clockwise.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 17:21
thanks to this poll... I'll be sure to pay attention next time I stir something and definitely check back in.
seeing how I am right handed and going counter clock-wise is.. well.. counter intuitive and physically unnatural.. I'd suspect I would be doing it clockwise.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 18:38
Right handed. I sort of go in a quick back and forth motion, Dean. Maybe once around clockwise and then I do the back and forth....and down the hatch. Channeling Dad I guess, that's how he mixed his highballs.
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 19:40
Right handed, but I do all sorts of stirring motions with coffee. With tea I stir clockwise watching the swirl. Final answer, RH with no preference.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 20:14
I must say this is the most stirring drink poll I've ever participated in. Downright inspirational.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 20:38
Clearly those righties are clueless, all us lefties are consistently clockwise.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 23 2016 at 20:40
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Clearly those righties are clueless, all us lefties are consistently clockwise. |
Yes, but when I visited Australia last year, I noticed I was stirring counterclockwise.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 24 2016 at 08:05
Finnforest wrote:
Right handed. I sort of go in a quick back and forth motion, Dean. Maybe once around clockwise and then I do the back and forth....and down the hatch. Channeling Dad I guess, that's how he mixed his highballs.
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oh the things we learn from our fathers
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: April 24 2016 at 08:24
Maybe ... not thought so enough lol. My whisky & soda should not be stirred so rigidly actually.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 24 2016 at 08:26
that reminds me.. I need to get my ass back over to Facebook. I miss your updates Keishiro...
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 25 2016 at 15:36
I've never paid attention to this, and while I'm not currently drinking anything, doing a pantomime stir with my right hand it feels wrong if I'm going counterclockwise. So I'm going to assume that, if I don't think about it, I'll naturally stir clockwise.
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Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: April 25 2016 at 15:40
Interesting outcome of this poll (so far)- just a little few votes to draw a firm conclusion though.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 25 2016 at 16:36
Man With Hat wrote:
, doing a pantomime stir with my right hand it feels wrong if I'm going counterclockwise. |
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 26 2016 at 03:03
lazland wrote:
Left handed, clockwise. |
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 26 2016 at 06:15
DDPascalDD wrote:
Interesting outcome of this poll (so far)- just a little few votes to draw a firm conclusion though.
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I doubt any meaningful conclusion can be drawn because of the superstition element to it: stirring anything in an anti-clockwise direction is said to invoke the devil, and this includes stirring http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/3322535/Guaranteed-to-put-hair-on-your-chest.html" rel="nofollow - porridge http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/3322535/Guaranteed-to-put-hair-on-your-chest.html" rel="nofollow - and http://www.lavenderandlovage.com/2011/11/christmas-pudding-day-stir-up-sunday.html" rel="nofollow - christmas pudding , and is possibly the origin of the idiom "to stir up trouble".
While no one has mentioned this in their posts that's not to say those who stir clockwise haven't been influenced by it. We don't always know why we follow traditions and customs (even unspoken ones) there are many that persist long after their origin has been forgotten, such as why men's clothes have the buttons on the right, while women’s have them on the left; or why most men part their hair on the left... We pick-up these traditions and customs by copying our parents, who in turn copied their parents and so on, and even something as innocuous as stirring a drink is a learnt action.
So I suspected the "clockwise" direction would gain more votes regardless of the persons handedness, however one thing that has surprised me is that all left-handers voted clockwise. By way of experiment I used my left-hand to stir my tea and found that I have a natural bias I have towards anti-clockwise stirring with that hand too while using my left-hand didn't seem particularly unnatural or awkward.
I find the whole handedness thing fascinating because of my dyslexic left-right confusion and I still smile when someone says to me "No... the other left" after I've turned right instead of left when following directions (most jokes wear thin after a while but that one never does). The only mild frustration I have is not being able to tie shoelaces - I can master most rope-knots but tying a bow on a pair of shoes defeats me - how someone with "a brain the size of a planet" who can get by in practically every other dexterous skill cannot tie shoelaces simply does not sit well with my rational way of thinking... as a consequence I don't own any lace-up shoes at all (I've wanted a pair of Converse baseys since forever... and still do). Hey-ho.
In our family Mum was right-handed and Dad was left-handed while both my sister and I are not wholly right handed. [Oddly, Dad's left-handedness was not a natural preference - he was born with a broken right-arm so adapted to being left-handed at an early age but remained right-eyed, which made him look extremely awkward when firing a rifle or throwing darts - he was still a bloody good shot never-the-less]. While it is true that some of the things we learnt from Mum we do right-handed and some that we learn from Dad we do left-handed, there are some things were we have no left-right preference. One curious exception to this is when eating - both Mum and Dad held the knife in their right hand (i.e. the traditional British way - or the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_utensil_etiquette" rel="nofollow - European-style as Wiki puts it ), while my sister and I hold it in our left hands - (this isn't the American-style of "fork-switching" btw - the fork remains in our right hands for the duration of the meal) - as my sister once curtly pointed out after being told-off for wrongly laying out the cutlery, the only person who was "wrong" here was Mum as she was the only one of us who held the fork in their "wrong hand".
[pointless anecdote #35624, regarding "fork-switching": We were travelling down to Newquay in Cornwall one summer and stopped off at a road-side café for some breakfast. By coincidence some college students we knew were travelling back from Newquay had also stopped there at the same time so we shared their table. The lad sat opposite me (who was very much the worse for wear following a heavy evening of drunken après-surf debauchery), was gazing groggily at his "Olympic Breakfast" watching the fat-laden fried fare congeal on his plate. I somewhat nervously shuffled in my chair, not sure whether he was going to throw-up or pass out. He sighed heavily and picked up his eating utensils and looked puzzled as he had a fork in each hand - he stared at them for a while then swap hands and stared at them again - as we all laughed at his confusion the girl beside him took one of the forks from his hand and replaced it with a knife and he then carried on eating as if nothing had happened. ]
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: April 26 2016 at 11:30
I use this. It goes clockwise and I hold it in my right hand. When something else is in my right hand, I use my left hand. When both hands are occupied, I usually go in another room.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 26 2016 at 12:03
progaardvark wrote:
I use this. It goes clockwise and I hold it in my right hand. When something else is in my right hand, I use my left hand. When both hands are occupied, I usually go in another room. |
If that went clockwise it would jam. I think you'll find that the whisks are contra-rotating
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: April 26 2016 at 12:16
Damn, I chose the wrong option. It's left-handed/counter-clockwise.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: April 27 2016 at 11:28
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