What makes 'prog' NOT boring?
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Topic: What makes 'prog' NOT boring?
Posted By: zravkapt
Subject: What makes 'prog' NOT boring?
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 09:35
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Okay, it's that time...let's talk about all the totally awesome stuff about porg. What makes you want to listen to it in the first place? Screw what other people think..... ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
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Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 09:54
I don't know a lot about porg, but I can say what I love about prog.  It's simply music that offers more. More depth. More variation in feeling, even within a single song. A great prog epic is like a movie in sound. It has moments of drama, reflection, surging energy, and a sense of flow to it.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 10:21
'prog fan'!!!   ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 10:30
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Man, I can't believe I'm saying this but... 'cause it make my brain work. I know, I know, most rock music is designed for the exact opposite effect, but if my little grey sponge isn't engaged when I 'listen' to music I find it uncomfortable. Back ground or activity filled music is very different and I suppose that's part of why I listen to other genres. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 10:35
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I find the best kind of porg stimulates both my brain and my booty. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 11:42
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Pork? That's awesome stuff indeed! ------------- |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 11:55
I'm not a fan of pork. I'm not Jewish/Muslim/vegetarian, but I avoid the stuff as much as possible. Do you know how much pigs are similar to humans? Everytime someone asks a cannibal what human flesh tastes like, they always say it tastes like pig. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
DDPascalDD wrote:Posted By: WeepingElf
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 13:41
Yep. These are features that prog shares with few other music genres, and why I like it. Prog is a fascinating auditory journey, and good prog offers something new to discover each time you listen to it. ------------- ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf "What does Elvish rock music sound like?" - "Yes." |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 13:43
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The butt-shaking drumming of course ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 13:45
In this case, I'm quite happy just to agree with what everyone else says. Otherwise I might be forced to admit the answer is "I dunno, I just really like it, you know?"
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 14:03
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Porg is dirty movies with a Rick Wakeman soundtrack. Not my scene. Prog, however IS my scene because it moves my rhythm organs and stimulates my brain. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 14:34
Said the bloodthirsty ice cube. ------------- |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 15:18
Ermm... not necessary, I find constant whistling keys are such a turn off
 just saying   |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 15:20
I do love pigs tho', especially on the wing
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 20:17
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Because it's so friggin good. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 20:20
people who stop being snotty to others while showing the best side of prog do open great avenues to newcomers 
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 20:20
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 09:44
| For me, is quite simple. It's the experience of listening music meant to be listened. |
Posted By: 1so-static
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 11:41
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One element to keep it interesting is swapping time signatures 5:8 to 4:4 to 3:4... for example "Money" by PF was composed in 7:4 until it reaches the solo and slaps hard into a 4:4 rhythm .... and keep away from repetitive scales ------------- https://soundcloud.com/1so-static-1 |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 12:06
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Because it makes me happy, I stuff that makes me listen, has depth, has changes of tempo & mood, an absence of crappy lyrics & harmony vocals ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 16:19
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Good prog is good because all the elements make for a good listening experience as a whole. The difference between prog and other genres are just the elements themselves. There's enough variation in prog (at least according to PA) that I couldn't describe any appeal that's universal to all prog, except for aforementioned variation. Many of the best prog albums make for very unique and varied experiences. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 17:02
| prog music is one of those things what make life worth living. it makes me feel better! |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 19:53
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I love how it has some sounds actually originate from Mars. I love how it has singers of these ageless times with kitchen prose and gutter rhymes. I love how it provides unexpected twists and turns. I love 5/4, 7/4, 5/8, 7/8, 9/8, 11/8, polyrhythms, nested polyrhythms. I love how women fawn over it. I love barbecue ribs. I digress. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 20:09
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The stuff that makes it good? I find it fascinating because of its diversity and well...progressiveness! Guess I'm just weird....I was never into music, just found it boring and uninteresting. Even if I liked something, it just got generic and samey. So I find prog not boring because it actually does different things! The song structures, the different influences, the many many directions it can go. You never really know what a prog (insert sub genre) album will be like, where it'll take you, sometimes you get swept off your feet in awe and surprise. This, for me, doesn't happen with non prog music. |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 20:16
| I love how I can take Gentle Giant albums, like Giant For a Day, and cut out a giant mask to wear for Halloween parties. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: December 29 2015 at 18:07
| Prog is thinking man's (and woman's) music. When music is allowed to just "be" and not feel the constraints of run time or audience (and label) expectations, the results are often thrilling. Great art is never boring. |
Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: December 29 2015 at 21:19
I do like participants who recognize that women listen to prog. Also the comment is spot-on.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 29 2015 at 22:03
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I have to say I do dislike the intellectual superiority that sometimes comes off prog fans (me included). I like to think it's got more to do with the intensity of focused listening and the personal tastes that need more complexity and variation. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: December 29 2015 at 22:13
Or maybe just the fact that we know that we are so much smarter than the average music fan.
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: December 30 2015 at 08:07
| Good Prog creates new neural connections in my brain. Takes my mind to places I've never been. And since Prog is more complicated then pop, I hear new things in the best prog that I've never heard before, even if I've listened to the music 50 times before. Feels like awe. Outstanding Prog is like a drug. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 01 2016 at 07:59
though I can't say I dislike it per se. it is one thing as I posted earlier that keeps prog from getting boring.. the fans of it. Never a dull moment when you get a bunch of people that think they are more evolved and superior to others all gathered in the same room.------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: January 01 2016 at 18:00
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It would be better (at least for me) to listen to prog and porg mutually sometimes. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 02 2016 at 06:10
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the musical experimentation
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: January 02 2016 at 19:44
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It started when I was a kid when I first listened to The Beatles 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart's Club Band' that led the path to the greatest rock music in the universe; Prog! - Rock music that was intelligent, diverse, and perhaps at times pretentious, but never dull or boring. ------------- - Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats - |
Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: January 03 2016 at 00:11
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^^ The Mothers of Invention's "Freak Out!" was already in a "freak'''s music collection when "Sgt.Pepper" was released ie. Prog was already born at the time when "Sgt.Peppers" was released. yes, the Beatles were very influential re that English Symphonic rock scene in late 60s / early 70s.
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prog, as a music made by "freaks" for "freaks", cant be boring ie. it must be a pitoresque place!
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Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: January 03 2016 at 23:24
Me: Nice Genesis shirt Guy:(without giving me any time to respond while he was talking) Ha, you like all those [bleep] songs right?Abacab and all that [bleep]? Yeah well wait till you get into the Peter Gabriel days and-OH WAIT! You don't even know him and even if you did, it was from the piece of [bleep] Sledgehammer song. Yeah you have [bleep] taste. Don't even talk to me. Me: *happily walks away because I avoided that storm* ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 04 2016 at 00:42
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^ Ah yes; the Pompous Progger. Worse than the Hostile Punk or Volatile Headbanger any day. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: January 04 2016 at 02:03
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Most music genres exist because they cannot do what another can. Nor should they. Who would want, say, an ACDC album to sound like the Goldberg variations? Oh wait. That's porg. Prog. Yes. ;) |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 14 2016 at 04:55
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The amazing marketing and media saturation. Also, the chicks! ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 14 2016 at 22:20
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The non-boring people I meet online and become friends with... But what he ^ said, baby. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: January 20 2016 at 05:54
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For me, the fun of prog music is in all the twists and turns it takes. Like a great movie, many prog records feel like adventures with both a lot of detailed artistry and effort. The complexities are a great reason for a listener to come back multiple times to hear what he or she didn't pick up on before. Mind you, this is coming from a person who also loves simpler genres such as alternative rock and punk (in fact, I prefer both genres to prog). I often like those genres for entirely different reasons, but in my opinion, prog's feeling of adventure and artistry is what made me gravitate to it as one of my favorite genres. Even when it comes to alternative rock, I often choose more artsy bands in the genre such as Smashing Pumpkins or Radiohead. ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: January 20 2016 at 06:49
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Because loud music makes me tired. Except for prog. And experimental stuff. And some metal. ------------- https://twitter.com/ProgFollower" rel="nofollow - @ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak. |
Posted By: scruffydragon
Date Posted: January 22 2016 at 02:38
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I think everybody has said most of what makes prog not boring. Forgot a few things however. Great prog is timeless and has a special quality that has transcended down the decades to us.A great album still sounds as great today and is still as relevant as it was when it was first recorded all those years ago.Besides prog contains some of the most beautiful songs and tunes ever recorded in the rock world. |
Posted By: aliano
Date Posted: January 31 2016 at 13:06
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The goosebumps. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: January 31 2016 at 21:18
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Good writing, fine arrangements and performance. In prog rock, the larger the composition the greater the vision required to make sure the bigger works don't lose their way and yet be varied enough to get to the end alright. Cohesive, varied with depth with detail. Should work on short to long numbers. |