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An open letter to prog Archives

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Topic: An open letter to prog Archives
Posted By: SteveG
Subject: An open letter to prog Archives
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 08:25
An open letter to Prog Archives' admins, moderators, operators and owners.
I see the thread titled 'are any religions harmless?' has been deleted by the so called 'brain trust' that makes up the PA admins, owners and operators.
 
Without warning, this 'self hallowed' institution, that does absolutely nothing for the betterment of the social good, does their covert disappearing act after I have spent an entire afternoon dealing with the insecurities of a hateful paranoid individual and a coward that blurts insults from the safety of being on the other end of a distant computer terminal.
 
I have put up online with these mental defectives with the aim that a truly sincere person would have an interest in the thread's topic, despite the others antisocial ranting and psychotic fixations.
 
You may have not appreciated the occasionally sincere individual posts that popped from time to time, but I did.
 
In closing, except for a few like Dean, who I hold in the highest respect possible, you are people that I cannot approve of or want to associate with.
 
You are simply cowards. There is simply no other word that describes you.
 
Oh, and Happy Holidays to all the rest. Smile
 
 



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 08:32
Steve, I have found you to often be annoying in your postings.  I've been haunting this site for nearly 10 years.  So register a complaint or two if you like.  Myself, I just get over it...


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 08:35

I never come here to be pleasant Brian. It was not PA's MO when I started and I've remained to this sites code of behavior when many of my friends ran from PA forever.

 
Who was really to blame? The chicken for wanting to cross the road or the one that actually got to get to the other side?


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 08:40
I fully support closing that thread. It had descended into name-calling and grown men acting like small children.....and I'm sorry to inform you Steve, but you were far and away the most abusive member in it.




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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 08:43

When many gang up on one and is able to hold his own, do you feel that person's the one being abusive?



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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 08:45
As I said before David, I'm not a coward and have no patience for those that are. I stated my opinions clearly and I will not defend them.
 
Just read the OP.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 08:51
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

As I said before David, I'm not a coward and have no patience for those that are. I stated my opinions clearly and I will not defend them.
 
Just read the OP.

I have and it reads like a butthurt drama queen. 

You make an arse out of yourself and terrorise anyone with an opposing view - or completely misunderstand people's intentions. Then when things go tits up you start blaming PA and it's admins for cleaning up the sh*t you yourself started.
Sorry dude, but you're on your own here.





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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 08:51
Inclosing, I leave a symbol of American iconography. He doesn't suffer cowards either. And knows when it's time to leave after making his point.


Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:02

So that’s what happened, I thought I was losing it.  Came home from work and couldn’t find the discussion.

 

You know Steve, if someone gets your goat it’s not their fault, it’s yours.  You allowed them to break your peace.

 

Peace out…



Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:03
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

As I said before David, I'm not a coward and have no patience for those that are. I stated my opinions clearly and I will not defend them.
 
Just read the OP.

I have and it reads like a butthurt drama queen. 

You make an arse out of yourself and terrorise anyone with an opposing view - or completely misunderstand people's intentions. Then when things go tits up you start blaming PA and it's admins for cleaning up the sh*t you yourself started.
Sorry dude, but you're on your own here.



I'm tired of a coward's response David. Man up to this sites underhanded covert treatment and deletion of posts or cry your song to someone who will actually believe it. The BS stops here.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:05
And try sticking to the topic for a change.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:09
I had been following the thread until very shortly before it was deleted, and I don't recall any name-calling there. I have no idea why it was closed. So I support SteveG on this unless an example of this alleged name-calling is shown to me.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:15
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

As I said before David, I'm not a coward and have no patience for those that are. I stated my opinions clearly and I will not defend them.
 
Just read the OP.

I have and it reads like a butthurt drama queen. 

You make an arse out of yourself and terrorise anyone with an opposing view - or completely misunderstand people's intentions. Then when things go tits up you start blaming PA and it's admins for cleaning up the sh*t you yourself started.
Sorry dude, but you're on your own here.



I'm tired of a coward's response David. Man up to this sites underhanded covert treatment and deletion of posts or cry your song to someone who will actually believe it. The BS stops here.

The bs only continues with you Steve - that much is evident.
If you don't like how things are done here - or similarly can't discuss with members in a respectful tone, then merely leave. 

You resort to name-calling every chance you get - including here. Calling me a coward doesn't really help your agenda. 

And I will stand up for how PA handles these things every chance I get. I was on the other side of the curtain too, so I know how hard it is to keep a site like this running. There is a reason why PA is regarded as one of the friendliest sites of it's kind over the internet. A large part of that is down to the admins and the rules they try to enforce the best way they can.
Yes they delete overtly abusive posts and threads - something I hope future admins will continue to do. 




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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:18
Well, I've heard no one actually deny that they were cowards, so I'm off to Europe with the Misses for the Holidays.
 
Perhaps Santa will live soon backbone in someone's stocking while I'm gone.
 
Happy Holidays and best wishes to all this coming year. Smile
 
Oh and David, final ever posts should be treated in kind, I have.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:22
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I had been following the thread until very shortly before it was deleted, and I don't recall any name-calling there. I have no idea why it was closed. So I support SteveG on this unless an example of this alleged name-calling is shown to me.

As just demonstrated, Steve does the name-calling thing in a more sly manner. 
It's the infamous "high-horse tactic".




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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:26
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Well, I've heard no one actually deny that they were cowards, so I'm off to Europe with the Misses for the Holidays.
 
Perhaps Santa will live soon backbone in someone's stocking while I'm gone.
 
Happy Holidays and best wishes to all this coming year. Smile
 
Oh and David, final ever posts should be treated in kind, I have.

So by calling people cowards you're being kind? 

I know who I think is being the coward here...oh and before I forget: Smile
You see? With a little emoticon everything is right as rain.





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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:35
rule of thumb: if you need to start more than one thread in response to something that happened in another you should probably stop posting for a while


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 09:46
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Well, I've heard no one actually deny that they were cowards, so I'm off to Europe with the Misses for the Holidays.
 
Perhaps Santa will live soon backbone in someone's stocking while I'm gone.
 
Happy Holidays and best wishes to all this coming year. Smile
 
Oh and David, final ever posts should be treated in kind, I have.

So by calling people cowards you're being kind? 

I know who I think is being the coward here...oh and before I forget: Smile
You see? With a little emoticon everything is right as rain.



In kind refers to 'following what's similar', and the emoticon was for everyone else that I do not consider to be cowards. So, it was not directed at you and your coward cronies.
 
 
So, I'll be clearer this time.
 
Happy Holidays to all you that were born with a backbone. Smile
 
May the cowards get many bags of coal!Angry
 
And if there's still confusion from those clutching at straws, here's the last line from my op:
 
"You are simply cowards. There is simply no other word that describes you.
 
Oh, and Happy Holidays to all the rest." Smile
 
 
 


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 10:47
Thank you Steve. You are a shining beacon of knowledge and good forum etiquette. I wish you the very best and hope you can overcome the hardships of the modern prog site.
If you can't win bash em eh? Don't worry I'm not talking about you but all the others that do this
I'm done here.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 10:49
Not being popular is not an options sometimes, David.
 
Fare well.


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Posted By: Otto9999
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 11:54
Funny how some 'Anonymous' active members just some minutes ago were still so kept on accessing the thread 'Is There Such Thing As A Harmless Religion' as an exclusive reading...  just HILARIOUS !
 
I'm OUT too. 


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 12:11
Steve,

this 'self hallowed' brain trust institution you're invoking is and represent the general consensus of the collabs/admins in the collab zone (though we never reach unanimity - at least in your case), named after having done worthy work for the database, reviews section and forum peace-keeping

these 
'self hallowed' brain trustees (called Admins) have the general trust of a much-absent owner and do not have an easy job (to say the least), but they've carried this site and its forum for now almost 11 years on a not-always perfectly paved road

I did post early on in that now-closed thread, but I must say that I lacked time to keep pursuing it (I have a real life outside the web), since it is the umpteenth thread about religions, ever since the twin threads "music for (A)theist". So this type of subject has run its course for the time being (IMHO, anyway).

You apparently have problems regarding a very close one to you (to which, believe it or not, we all sympathize) and it may be touh to live through, but I suggest that you vent you frustrations on a different planet than this one. We're here for the music, not the other side-subjects

You've proved your prog knowledge enough, but let yourself not become a liability rather than the asset you could've once become


And if you're tired of us "cowards", let no-one here hold you back. rest assure you won't be missed by many here.

You can slam the outdoor as hatrd as you want.

BTW:
Don't let that slammed door slap your dorsal spine as you exit... Hurry up!!





...... and not just IMHO, BTW






Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 19:13
I just wanted to make one note before I close this thread to discussion. I admit as an admin I haven't been terribly active the past few weeks because I've been incredibly busy in my real life and seeing as this is not a paid position I cannot dedicate endless hours to moderating, but I do try to poke my head in as often as possible and I probably should have said something here earlier.

Just one note Steve - ProgArchives is a privately owned and operated website and does not need to follow any public policy in regard to freedom of speech or whatnot. The admins and owners have the full right to hide and censor what we wish. If something violates the policies and expectations we've put forth on the forum, we should and will hide the thread. 

That being said, as admins, I'd like to believe we've kept a fairly open mind in terms of what we allow and don't allow on the forum. There are definitely forums that have more stringent moderation and there are definitely forums that have more lax moderation and PA generally is very middle of the road. 

If you disagree with how the admins handle business, feel free to leave. This is not a authoritarian country; you are not being forced to stay here. You've caused a fair amount of trouble here, and quite frankly a more stringent administrator would probably have banned you for trolling but I for one am fine with having some members disagree with how the site is run. I'd love to take constructive criticism but honestly all you've offered is pointless dissent. If you don't like the admins, feel free to leave. No one is stopping you. How we acted in the religion thread is perfectly reasonable and had the backing of the majority of the collaborators of the site. 

And please stop making duplicate accounts. We will continue to remove them as that is against our policies.


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