introduce the 0.5 star rating system
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Topic: introduce the 0.5 star rating system
Posted By: Progkid
Subject: introduce the 0.5 star rating system
Date Posted: August 12 2015 at 04:29
| I have joined yesterday and I am a 15 year old but I have been a visitor regularly since last few months, what I have noticed is some reviewers want to rate an album 3.5 but since they can't they m koake it 4 stars, which well would affect the overall ranking in top prog albums right? and it seems a bit unfair to jot it down to 0.5 less, what are your thoughts? |
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: August 12 2015 at 05:37
From http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=95909&PID=4973347#4973347" rel="nofollow - this :
Also, from http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66295&PID=3609381#3609381" rel="nofollow - this :
I don't know how Teo knows that, but I believe him.
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Guldbamsen wrote:Posted By: Progkid
Date Posted: August 12 2015 at 05:58
| yeah but it seems legit to introduce the 0.5 system, it solves a lot of problems |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 12 2015 at 06:32
First of all, welcome to the site....  I'd even go as far as wanting to reinstall the zero star rating that was enforced for some six months a few years ago. Alas, for some reason, this diid not last long However, you asking for (the 0.5 ) doesn't make much seense, if you're not going to allow total half-star ratings (meaning 1.5 2.5 3.5 4.5 as well as the 0.5)... sorry if I misunderstood you - as I susppect I did
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Posted By: Progkid
Date Posted: August 12 2015 at 08:15
| haha you did but it's ok :p yep I meant 1.5,2.5,3.5,4.5 too and thanks ;) |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 12 2015 at 13:35
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It's possible, but would effectively requite Max to reprogram a lot of the site. If PA ever gets a major overhaul, that would likely be included in the update, but I'm not so sure an update of that size is on the horizon for a little while. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 12 2015 at 14:36
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I need a review system that goes out to 6 decimal places. That's why I never write reviews. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 12 2015 at 22:47
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I don't like the concept of half a star. One star says it best. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 13 2015 at 18:21
I'd like to see it change to 5 vinyl discs and get rid of the stars altogether  ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Progkid
Date Posted: August 14 2015 at 00:19
| haha nice one ^ |
Posted By: HedonismBot
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 14:24
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Is it technically possible to provide a 10 stars rating system? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 17:25
^ What a mess that would be.
The Nigel Tufnel method. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: HedonismBot
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 20:02
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Why? 3/5 = 6/10 4/5 = 8/10 3.5=7 4.5=9 Etc... And the half star problem is resolved. |
Posted By: LakeGlade12
Date Posted: March 23 2016 at 09:28
| Would absolutely love to have half stars, I've got a decent list of albums where I simply cannot review at the moment simply because it needs that 0.5 star. Without it I feel guilty underrating the album or guilty that I'm inflating the number of stars I'm giving out. Granted it would be quite a overhaul, but at least it would reduce the number of people giving 5 stars to albums left, right and center. |
Posted By: HedonismBot
Date Posted: March 26 2016 at 09:07
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Exactly. Five stars are too restrictive. With ten stars, ratings would be more accurate and truthful for sure. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 26 2016 at 09:13
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The vast majority of PA members wants this....and have wished for it for the last 7-8 years, but as mentioned earlier, this is all down to the owner of the site. Admins and mods have no say in these sorts of decisions. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Disparate Times
Date Posted: March 26 2016 at 09:34
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What if we tried to lobby the owner, perhaps we could offer clicking on an advertisement every time we enter the site. Of coarse it would have to be on an honor system. ------------- Songs are like tightly budgeted meals Nobodies doing anything new or even real |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: March 31 2016 at 16:40
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Please, be kind to the Music - when in doubt how to rate, always give half a star for free (they come cheap, these days) and raise your rating to the next upper level. You'll see, it won't hurt and everybody will be happier  |
Posted By: Ozark Soundscape
Date Posted: March 31 2016 at 17:05
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we should eschew album ratings as a whole and implement communal pseudo-random charts and hang anyone that submits a review for crimes against music |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 31 2016 at 20:40
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^ We should eschew the use of the word "eschew". ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 01 2016 at 12:40
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I like the word eschew, especially when asking people to abstain from sneezing: "Please eschew the achoo". Aside from M@x needing to be the one to decide on making the move, the problem I see is that we have about 12 years of ratings based on the five star system we have (aside from the zero which was once in place). What I would like to see changed is the ratings descriptions to explicitly indicate subjectivity. For instance, instead of 5 stars "Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music", it could be 5 stars "Tha Shizz imo" and one star "tha Shi*z imo", or words to that effect. Okay, on the masterpiece one you can easily say, well, duh, of course music is subjective and that that's just your opinion, but then other descriptions seem to be telling others how they should think. "Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection", ah, no, maybe not for my collection. "Good, but non-essential", for you, maybe. "Collectors/fans only" Wtf? So only get it if you're a fan of the band or like to collect music from the band (I do know what it means)? "Poor. Only for completionists". Is completionist even a proper word? Well, I guess it is, but I prefer completest. Where it can get worse is when people are rating albums in categories that they aren't familiar with or enjoy (I think there should be an element of rating in comparison to other albums of the same ilk). |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 01 2016 at 13:26
Since we have fractional ratings ultimately anyway on all the albums here due to the number of votes I think the .5 star idea is a good one.....not that anyone cares. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 01 2016 at 18:43
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^ We all care tremendously, we're just lazy. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 06:06
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"If It Ain't Broken Don't Fix It !" Let me make it easy for you: * Extremes have a strong emotional factor behind them: 1 star - you hate it; 5 stars you love it. * 3 stars - balanced middle point, valued work with both its strengths and weaknesses. * More on the weak side - 2 stars , 4 stars - more on the strong side. THE END What else do we need ? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 06:13
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^Well the point is that most members have been asking for this implementation for the last 8 years. It's not that anything is broken or anything of that sort...people just want to be able to rate the music with an increased precision. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 06:22
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With all due respect: That "precision" on this so subjective matter (Personal Taste) is just, I'm afraid, an unattainable goal. I respect good intentions, though. Have fun |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 06:27
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Sure it's all down to subjective matters, I completely agree. I'm only trying to explain to you why folks want this. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 06:43
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Yep, it's OK, but my counter-point is: Don't use the "precision" argument, please ! People just want to have fun (me too) using their Rating Super-Powers (I pass) to the fullness of their capacity. This involves the use of 0,5 oz of Kryptonite, sorry, Star Dust Powder ? So it seems... |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 06:58
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If an album is 3.5 stars to a member, then it's also more precise to rate it with 3.5 stars instead of 3 or 4. The 'precision argument' is the only one that makes sense. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 07:06
I must soon get my ear canals cleaned : I can only hear full stars, not half stars anymore  |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 16:40
someone should tell them words work best.. worry more about describing.. less about rating  I want to know about albums, not what Joe 6 Pack thinks of the album------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: April 07 2016 at 17:17
 Excellent idea.I would give only 9/10 to "Selling England by the Pound" by GENESIS because I have never liked that Collins tune and his lame and weak singing. An annoying tune, clearly a filler. The same with "Are you ready Eddie?" on Tarkus album. Fzzzz... I would replace it with "Twilight Alehouse" from Nursery era and give the album 10 stars. 10+ actually because then it would a perfect GENESIS album. But I still give "Pound" 5 stars as giving 4 does not do justice to this otherwise brilliant Prog Classic. ------------- You may see a smile on Tony Banks´ face but that´s unlikely. |