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Do these bands qualify for the Archives

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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: Do these bands qualify for the Archives
Posted By: Kohllapse
Subject: Do these bands qualify for the Archives
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 05:31

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 05:35
I thought Fantomas already Here!

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Posted By: jitu
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 05:38


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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 05:45


Far too many!

why don't we start with something "less", and more familiar???

Jon Lord, for instance!



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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 05:46

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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 05:55

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Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 06:04
Iona are already here, and I want to point out that the 5 bands in your first "group" also appear in the long list you have there.  Also, a suggestion: instead of just giving a long list of names, give reasons why you think those bands should be regarded for conclusion.  This will probably spark more comments, and also gives people unfamiliar with the bands an idea of what they sound like.




Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 06:13

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 06:16
Have a close look at our website fist, a lot of bands you mentioned are already here (Guapo, Maudlin Of The Well, Ruins... from the top of my head, maybe more).


Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 06:24

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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 06:50

Only DEAD CAN DANCE was familiar to me of your list.

You should ask collaborators, what they think of them. Then just start adding...

typing errors...



Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 07:37
I don't think the Cocteau Twins should be here (they are ace though).


Posted By: riversdancing
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 08:42
Originally posted by Kohllapse Kohllapse wrote:

Nightingale is a hard rock band with prog influences. I have all of them, but I do not consider them as prog. The Moontower album from Dan Swanö is much more progger.
Atomic Opera, King's X, Galactic Cowboys: No, they're not prog. Altough I have all King's X and GC albums and I like them. But loving a band is not enough to be listed here.
Balance of Power: melodic hard rock/ heavy metal with minor prog elements.
Believer: Christian prog/death, can be listed here.
Emperor: pure black metal.
Saigon Kick: I can't categorize them, similar to Alice in Chains, Mindfunk and Skid Row. An interesting band, but not prog.
Tourniquet: Christian prog/thrash, good choice
Harem Scarem: oh, this is AOR/melodic hard rock. Great band, but not prog.
Martyr, Gorguts: well, Atheist is listed here, but only one progger album among the straight death metal albums is not enough. Why didn't you suggest Morbid Angel or Terrorizer?




 

 

 



Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 08:51

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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 08:57

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Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 09:02
Guapo's prog, all right, and you should all have Five Suns in your
collection...unless you hate Magma. And how could you?


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 09:07
Most of the bands on Kohllapse's list I haven't even heard the names of, except for 4 or 5. But I'll counter that with two suggestions of my own:
Invisible Opera Company of Tibet
University of Errors


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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 09:10
Slint are Math-Rock.  Cocteau Twins are more pop than anything.  Butthole Surfers, they're not prog!!

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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 09:14
Cocteau Twins are great, but definitely not prog.

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Posted By: Infinity
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 11:20

Good effort but some are defo not prog - e.g Cocteau Twins....

Also maybe check your list first as some are defo already here

Plus it's so big it's virtually a website in itself

Great effort though, all in the name of discovering more bands - plus you stumped BaldFriede which is tantamount to impossible ....................then again that might be because it's not all prog !?

 

 



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Posted By: Pseud0
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 12:50
Quote Emperor: pure black metal.


ever heard prometheus? (they shouldn't be added here though)

also gorguts is extremely strange and progressive - no other band has the same sound




Posted By: riversdancing
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 13:03
Originally posted by Pseud0 Pseud0 wrote:

Quote Emperor: pure black metal.


ever heard prometheus? (they shouldn't be added here though)

No, unfortunately not. But I'll fill the gaps.

also gorguts is extremely strange and progressive - no other band has the same sound.

I've only heard about them and their best record Obscura. Are they similar to Atheist?




Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 13:15

Originally posted by riversdancing riversdancing wrote:


Emperor: pure black metal.

True but one of the greatest black metal bands. They had a hard time at the start of their career because after the release of their debut 3 out of 4 band members were in jail.



Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 15:37

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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 16:20
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 19:34
Kerry Livgren belongs here.  He is on of two main  songwriters for Kansas and is the main songwriter for Proto-Kaw both of whom are already in the Archives. Most of his solo stuff and AD stuff should qualify him.  Steve Walsh the other songwriter from Kansas belongs here for his last two works Glossolia and Shawdowman.

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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 23:20

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Posted By: Littlewashu5
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 23:20

Nightingale-The band themselves label their music as prog. I personally think their music is a bit AOR-ish

Edge of Sanity-They were one of the death bands to introduce prog element to their music. Peronally I think there are more progressive death metal bands

Alchemist-Just because the band has a lot of psyche elements doesn't mean they're prog

Failure-Not Prog in the least. Great band though

Postman Syndrome-This band needs to be put on Prog Archives immediately. Probably some of the most inventive and creative music I've ever heard



Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 23:27

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Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 03:57
Originally posted by Kohllapse Kohllapse wrote:

 What about Kohllapse?

 "Strikingly innovative and original band from Canberra mixing strong, heavy and dark progressive metal with black ambience and industrial trimmings"



The problem with your statement here (and with the list you've given) is that you've quoted someone else's review.  Just because someone labels a band prog doesn't necessarily mean that they're prog - you have to justify that statement by giving specific reasons why they should be considered prog.

Having said that, here are some comments on the bands I'm familiar with:

AD/Kerry Livgren - Definitely worth considering, due to the Kansas connection, but I have only heard a few tracks, so I can't make an informed decision.
America Gomorrah - Heard a few mp3s, which I liked, and are possibly a candidate for being included here.
Nightingale, King's X, Galactic Cowboys, Tourniquet - All of these have prog elements in their music, which for some people might be enough to warrant their inclusion, however I don't think they're proggy enough to be here.
Balance Of Power - Never understood why these guys get labelled prog.  They're a good band, I just don't hear any prog.
Sacred Warrior, Deliverance, Jacobs Dream - Good metal bands, but not prog



Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 09:03
can'u make mp3 downloads for "kebnekaise"??? that would be sweet 


Posted By: myppoe
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 23:21

so sorry...this band's name is ..........too????



Posted By: Mnemosyne
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 12:28
Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Originally posted by riversdancing riversdancing wrote:


Emperor: pure black metal.

True but one of the greatest black metal bands. They had a hard time at the start of their career because after the release of their debut 3 out of 4 band members were in jail.

"Prometheus" is a very proggy Black metal album though, so this band has more prog elements than other bands listed there.



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