C.A. Picard - Electronic music on the margins
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Topic: C.A. Picard - Electronic music on the margins
Posted By: CPicard
Subject: C.A. Picard - Electronic music on the margins
Date Posted: May 15 2015 at 04:53
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For those interested in electronic music made without method, out of genre conventions, I gladly welcome you to follow this link: http://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard" rel="nofollow - http://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard These tracks are taken from a CD-R distributed from hand to hand, to a very small amount of people, "released" in 2014. The "repertoire" comes from noise music to more abstract atmospheres. In a close future, this page will be updated with a whole set of ambient music tracks recorded since 2014. Note: sound quality can vary from track to track, due to the nature of the sounds used in the creation and recording of this music. Please, bear with it or please the bear with it. |
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 15 2015 at 06:05
 Interesting and sometimes quite unnerving. I particularly like "Zoom" ... nicely done Monsieur Cédric. ------------- What? |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: May 15 2015 at 07:15
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rich guy stuff ------------- 
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 15 2015 at 12:29
Really cool stuff.  Look forward to hearing more.------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 16 2015 at 12:24
"Unnerving"? Well, it's true that I didn't plan to make some New Age music!  Anyway, I'm "remixing" the tracks from the CD-R already mentionned, and I'm also working on some dark ambient / drone stuff... But this material may ask more work, especially on the volume and the distortion. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 18 2015 at 11:15
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may i link this on http://nervoushorse.com/music.htm" rel="nofollow - the nervous horse page where i link things , q.m. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 20 2015 at 14:02
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You may. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 22 2015 at 06:55
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Hey, people: new track! New track! http://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/voyage-sur-mars-15112014" rel="nofollow - http://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/voyage-sur-mars-15112014 |
Posted By: VOTOMS
Date Posted: May 22 2015 at 15:55
| Awesome. I'm working with some drone/powerelectronics/dark ambient too. Excited to try your upcoming tracks. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 25 2015 at 16:11
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"New" tracks uploaded! If I put the "new" word in hyphens, it's just because it's some stuff I recorded some months ago (but still it had never been put online or on material supports). I may upload some more tracks in the summer, most of them belonging to the ambient genre. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 15:56
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Hey, people! New tracks! New tracks! 2 small pieces in an ambient style, dedicated to... Sands. And to Italo Calvino and to Hiroshi Teshigara. |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 16:19
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No idea who they are but listens are imminent! -------------
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 02 2015 at 05:24
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Oops, I did it again: six (6) "new" tracks, coming from a long, hidden, dark past: the year 2004 D.C. and all its confusing incidents leading to a logical conclusion: rust, remnants, rails. The whole stuff had been arranged in a playlist for your comfort and pleasure - if you might find such qualities in these tracks sounding like the moanings of biomechanical werewolves trying to keep their composures with the help of Zen exercices... |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 04 2016 at 12:45
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Summer's here, let's dance with our hearts filled with joy and happiness! http://https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/we-dance-happy-happy" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/we-dance-happy-happy WARNING: don't listen with headphones, share it with your whole family and your friends! |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 05 2016 at 12:37
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And another one! Recorded two and half years ago, released less than one minute ago. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: August 05 2016 at 14:14
https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/we-dance-happy-happy" rel="nofollow - the link is broken k  |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 25 2016 at 10:41
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If the link isn't broken, share this new track with everyone you share a spiritual connection with (warning, listening to this track may cause astral travels, contact with the highest spheres of the Universe, complete illumination, access to the Nirvana and the end of the cycle of reincarnations): http://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/age-of-extended-consciousness" rel="nofollow - http://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/age-of-extended-consciousness |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 23 2016 at 04:15
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A quick rework on an old track - with enough changes to justify a new title: http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/au-musee-de-lhomme" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/au-musee-de-lhomme |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 04 2017 at 00:56
| I think you better learn what 'convention' means. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 04 2017 at 10:10
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Well, would you enlighten with your teachings? I can't wait for learning my great errors and how bland and generic is my music... Would you spend all day rubbin' doan me, even if I'm not a brunette? |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 04 2017 at 17:41
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If you want to know music, you have to learn music. Now if you was Schoenberg, you might just pick it up mostly from listening and reading scores. If ya's not, well, that means learning the structure of Music. There's lotsa resources. I recommend this one: http://www.solomonsmusic.net" rel="nofollow - www.solomonsmusic.net The glossary alone will take you far. I am particular to brunettes, beau. But I give lovin ta whomever truly wants it.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 04 2017 at 21:18
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Asund wrote:Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 04 2017 at 22:34
-raises eyebrows....smiles- When I say rub down, I mean rub doan! Nothing freaky. The catch is one must be emotionally open. Don't come to the field if ya ain't ready ta play. Now back to your regularly-scheduled programming.......
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 05 2017 at 07:40
Alas, being deaf, I can't listen to music; being blind, I can't read scores. Also, being illiterate, I can't understand golssary. |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 05 2017 at 15:22
| Ahh, you're just being pissy. Chill, bra. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 07 2017 at 02:46
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To start 2017, a new track (with some sweet and fond memories from my University years as a History student, stuck in lessons about the first human industries): http://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/ceramique-et-metal" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/ceramique-et-metal Enjoy the echoes! |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: January 07 2017 at 05:13
^ An addictive ambience, love it!  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 07 2017 at 16:09
| Takes me back to......FORBIDDEN PLANET. |
Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 01:42
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But it isn't prog rock in any way, shape or form. I also do - did - electronic music - with prog rock influence. This is music concrete, if it's anything at all. This is my particular take on electronic prog rock. You may notice (a) a high level of musicianship, hem hem, although I say it myself (b) adequate instrumentation (c) use of exotic scales and influences (d) story telling (e) I actually change time and key every so often. Like two minutes, in this case. ;-) Apologies, but there's a distiction between noise and music. https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/brotherhood-of-the-machine-samarkand-suite" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/brotherhood-of-the-machine-samarkand-suite ------------- |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 01:45
It's music-concrete only if it's altered recorded sounds. Gross sounds, not samples. Sounds like he used a ring modulator and a sine tone. Did you know I'm the fifth Illuminatus Primi?
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Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 01:51
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Asund, I build analogue synthesizers for a hobby. No ring mod. It's certainly not music. I just mention this having actually been a musician for 41 years. THIS is electronic prog rock. I just happened to do it. Contrast and compare. https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/brotherhood-of-the-machine-samarkand-suite" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/brotherhood-of-the-machine-samarkand-suite Also try this - less Eastern influences but more Krautrock oriented. https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/brotherhood-of-the-machine-hin-und-zuruck" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/brotherhoodofthemachine/brotherhood-of-the-machine-hin-und-zuruck ------------- |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 01:53
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Groovy. |
Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 01:54
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"Noise".
There's a growing tendency in electronic music for non musicians to buy modular synthesizers and then just make noises on them. About 90% - possibly higher - of all people who actually own a modular seem to just plug everything at random and then somehow convince themselves that what they're producing is "music". Here's one I built earlier, at component level. Thing is, I'm really a saxophonist, but I'm also a multi instrumentalist. The woods are full of people with zero musical training - or the deluded who think being able to strum a few chords on a guitar turns you into a musician. I have a massively open mind about music. If you listen to my stuff, there are all kinds of influences in it. If I listen to the OP's stuff...... I'm very sorry. I don't even hear the beginning fundamentals of music. "Not for me". Others taste may vary, and if the OP is happy with is work, fine for him. I would remind him that posting work on a public forum invites critique, and it's never all good.  ------------- |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 01:56
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I amended my post some. Static is noise. I like listening to it. Really enjoyed the fuzz on the TV as a kid, visually and aurally.
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Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 02:02
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Thomas Beecham, the famous English conductor, was asked if he'd ever conducted any Stockhausen. "No" he replied, "but I once trod in some." Static is indeed noise. Noise is not music. Music has rules and conventions. ------------- |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 04:20
| I'm sure he did. The English were pretty 'proper' gents, stuck in Vaughn Williams and that. The French at least were open to new things not necessarily their own. But taste too often gets in the way of comprehension, and some recognition of the quality in a thing unfamiliar. |
Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 04:38
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Taste doesn't get in the way of comprehension, I fully *comprehend* what is music and what is not music. This is noise. For "unfamiliar" music, I was listening to Amon Duul and early Hawkwind many years ago and I've always liked unusual music. This is a bit funny, as I'm English as well, as were a lot of experimental musicians in the 60's, Floyd being an example, so bang goes that theory. ;-) As for quality, pop on the Muffwiggler website or ask my friend Gwen, who does "noise" much better than this. ------------- |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 04:52
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I have my own definition of music. Though it starts with craft. Popcul had neat stuff through that time, but whether blokes like Robert Fripp, or the engineers and inventors developing the devices, the output was rarely Art Music level. Gwen. Someone here?
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Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 05:10
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Nope, Gwen is on another forum and does noise based electronic music. Well, "music" in a broad term. More experimental. She does some interesting stuff, but - well, it's music with a small m. The OP here describes his stuff as "on the margins". Which I think would be a fair comment if he'd actually shown us first that he can actually play, "and now here's some of my experimental stuff". And this is the problem I have with "experimental stuff". The Dunning-Kruger effect now means that huge numbers of people consider themselves musicians as they can create sounds with a variety of electronics and software which wasn't previously available to the masses. Anyone can now make electronic noise. Pretty much in the same way that anyone can create abstract art. I've got some time for some artists, such as Picasso, who started off with some degree of talent and then explored boundaries. They've done their apprenticeship and paid their dues. However, for every one artist like that, there are 10,000 scribblers trying to pass a lack of talent off as "abstract art". Listening to M. Picard's jolly ditties, they invoke no imagery, have no dynamics - at least for me. It pleasures me not, and music is all subjective. Which is why you're perfectly entitled to your opinion, and so am I. ------------- |
Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 05:11
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PS I quite like Robert Fripp. ;-) ------------- |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 16:40
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People have opinions. I have thoughts about things. Neutral/funxional, versus personal/social. I use the word 'exploratory', as experimental has decades of anti-establisment sentiment, both ways, in the public consciousness. Exploratory is also open-ended. Of course, people saying something is experimental/exploratory, versus saying they are experimenting with/exploring some such. Good language equals good thought - Wittgenstein. So I agree with you that some few have great talent. Yet, people in general are pretty capable. They need proper exposure and tools. There were people arguably with less talent and overall musical comprehension than I doing better composition assignments, because they just followed the guidance in the curriculum. Musician to me does mean someone who can physically perform on an instrument. However, composers aren't necessarily musicians. Take Steve Roach, one of the top second-gen electronic composers, simply because he has composed most like a composer.
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Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 11 2017 at 01:36
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"That of which we cannot speak, is that of which we must remain silent" - if we're doing Wittgenstein. ;-) ------------- |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 11 2017 at 03:00
| Nah, just unask the question. I told ya, I am the Fifth Illuminatus Primi, beau. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 11 2017 at 03:06
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Can you guys please take this to PM or similarly start your own thread. Hijacking someone else's thread in order to establish what music is or isn't - is poor forum etiquette. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Asund
Date Posted: January 11 2017 at 03:28
| I had wondered about that in the last day. Hell, have the mods scrub our posts from the thread. At least, I give permission (if desired) for mine to. |
Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: January 11 2017 at 06:40
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Me too, off on a tangent. ;-) ------------- |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 01 2017 at 05:49
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Do you love me now that I can dance? http://https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/000-666-777a" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/000-666-777a Beware: this track may be the harshest piece I ever recorded. Or not. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 10 2017 at 10:29
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A more serious track, filled with martial drums and funeral bells: http://https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/1720a" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/1720a Back when I made this track (2004), someone told me then it sounded like Death In June - which was strange, because I never listened to one note of this band at these times. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 17:14
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It awakes for Samhain: http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/seda-gozde-isik" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/seda-gozde-isik |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 06:05
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^&^^ nice teckstures bud-e, would be great if you'd fit them into album format somewhere -------------
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 06:18
| i am completely agree with the above |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 02 2018 at 11:30
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Oops! I did it again: http://https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/sets/statique" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/c-dric-a-picard/sets/statique Now with more sleep inducing (read: boring) drone-like textures. Good nap!
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 02 2018 at 19:02
^ Fantastic drone but apparent clear stimulation for my mind. Cool really.  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 03 2018 at 07:57
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Links are dead. But I'm somewhat of a necromancer.
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Posted By: flyingveepixie
Date Posted: September 23 2018 at 08:10
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None of the links work... |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 28 2018 at 06:52
| why? |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 24 2019 at 13:46
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Well, OK, I may have done something lately... |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 10 2019 at 15:57
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Some propaganda: http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/mecanisme-et-consequences" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/mecanisme-et-consequences
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 01 2019 at 15:59
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24 days before Christmas, 24 tracks to come onto this link: http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595 Each day, I will post a track, ranging from dark ambient to musique concrète, including a few "bruits désobligeants" - pure autistic electronic music! Stay tuned, don't eat all your chocolates in one bite and don't forget to brush your teeth.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 13 2019 at 12:19
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How to enjoy Friday the 13th when the full moon is rising: http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/meifumado" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/meifumado |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: February 10 2020 at 11:56
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I, huh, made, huh, some, er... dub (?): http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/sets/cosquer-dub" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/sets/cosquer-dub Scuba diving recommended.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 11:30
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Here's a collection of sands to enjoy for the drone followers: http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/sets/collection-de-sables" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/sets/collection-de-sables 5 tracks of electronic drone ambient, designed to make the listener keeping the eyes closed even when the hissings coming from the surroundings suggest an uncanny presence... |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 20 2020 at 05:01
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Even if no one cares, I uploaded my first demo CD (back from 2013) - 13 tracks of electronic/noise music freely downloadable for 24 hours: http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/sets/qrn-2" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/sets/qrn-2 |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: June 20 2020 at 05:13
Now have a quick listen. How crazy, my love.   ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 12:13
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Some extracts from a forthcoming work, inspired by the writings of Lovecraft and the manga of Gou Tanabe: http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/les-montagnes-hallucinees-preview" rel="nofollow - http://https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/les-montagnes-hallucinees-preview Musical inspiration from early Tangerine Dream, Camizole 1975, Cluster, etc... Complete work due for November 13th.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 08 2022 at 14:16
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New project: a collection of pop-songs. More or less. https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/a-pop-song-cant-go-wrong" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/a-pop-song-cant-go-wrong
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 21 2024 at 12:23
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Cosquer Dub is now a 4-tracks playlist: https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/sets/cosquer-dub-ep" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/user-205267595/sets/cosquer-dub-ep |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 21 2024 at 17:16
Hi, Which begs, mercilessly, to be broken and abused senselessly! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |