Meshuggah are awful
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Topic: Meshuggah are awful
Posted By: Valarius
Subject: Meshuggah are awful
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:14
Looking to start a fight! Let's get to it!  Meshuggah are absolutely awful. All of their songs sound exactly the same. EXACTLY THE SAME. Detuned, dull, droning guitars playing riffs in different time signatures as the drummer, who does the exact same drum beat in every song. And the singer (if ya wanna call him that) shouts the same, incomprehensible dribble over every song, using the exact same vocal melody (if ya wanna call it that) in every friggin' song! Most of the people I went to uni with absolutely worship Meshuggah, but there's absolutely no musicality in what they do. You can't hum their songs, or barely sing them. Only music students who obsess with being the most intelligent, mathematical musicians obsess over them, as if playing guitar riffs in 7/3 over a 14/9 drum beat makes them superior musicians. It's not cool, it's not funny, and it's not clever. In simple terms, they're utter sh*te. I'm calling out any Meshuggah fans to defend them and convince me of why they're worth listening to. Oh, and 'Catch Thirty-Three' is probably the worst album I've ever heard.  |
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:21
This must be one of the daftest threads I've seen in a while How do you suppose fans of Meshuggah will go about converting a person who already hates them with a vengeance? Oh and some acts don't rely on melodies or hummable tunes. The focus of the music lies elsewhere - on groove or ambiances or something completely different. Most Krautrock doesn't rely on melodies either yet I'm still an avid fan of the sub. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:22
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Say what you like about Meshuggah, at least they're not Welsh. ------------- 
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:28
That´s right David. Groove and ambience are exactly two of Meshuggah´s great assets, not melody or instant catchiness. They are not for everyone either. Personally it took me around 10 years before I understood their music and was able to appreciate it. I fully understand why some people will never be able to listen to their music and enjoy it. They are very much an aquired taste.
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Guldbamsen wrote:Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:31
Well hot damn! I may as well go check em out then  I do seem to remember checking them out a few years ago, but I honestly can't recollect whether or not I liked what I heard ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:33
I don't like Meshuggah either, but why would their fans bother doing this? |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:35
Well at least you´re used to repetitive rhythms from your krautrock "obsession", so that part of Meshuggah´s music probably won´t be a problem. I´ve noticed some listeners calling their music monotone and emotionally linear (full on aggression almost all the time), which is something I hear too. It´s not an issue for me though, just another uncompromising feature about their music, which I appreciate. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:40
Well...I at least got David partially interested, so this thread was actually good for something ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:46
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It's alright - even music that I agree to be "monotonous", like Can fx, I still find it very varied and layered. I guess it just takes a little patience in learning to appreciate what is happening outside of the "beat". I know I felt the same trying to get into both modern electronic and hip hop when I first started out. The monotonous and in your face BEAT was so overpowering that I couldn't hear anything else. Things have changed though, but it took a little getting used to. BTW I'm not saying this is for everyone - but perseverance does pay off in some cases. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 08:46
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Don't really get them, they seem to be one of those groups people either love or absolutely detest with very little middle ground. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:00
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^That´s usually the case with music as uncompromising as Meshuggah´s. You get the same with artists like Magma or early Faust. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:03
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What do you call three Danes on a prog rock forum all logged in at the same time? ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:06
Also, they have a Yiddish name but strangely enough they a Djentiles. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:10
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I'm very much in the middle ground on them. I think there is real merit in their music but I always want them to do something more than what they do... but seriously Destroy Erase Improve is a classic of metal. I always wanted Meshuggah to maybe have a Cellist, Violinist, and maybe a wind or brass instrumentalist as well as keyboards. Really that would sound nothing like Meshuaggah. I'm just dreaming up another band entirely. What is wrong with me? Why am I even responding to this guy? ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:12
A freak accident ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:15
My thoughts exactly ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:16
------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:17
I do that as well with bands I'm not entirely convinced by. I then, as you probably know by now, add bassoons. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:26
Crazy SvenskaSwede: a name for a vegetable in England, Ireland, Wales,  New Zealand, Australia and South Africa.-------------
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:31
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The Swedes are a wonderful breed. We love them here in Denmark - especially during the warmer months where they can be frequently viewed near beaches and, of course, the small bars of the inner city. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:33
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^And their girls are even more gorgeous than ours...damn it. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:34
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^ I know a lot of people outside Scandinavia who wouldn't appear out of place in a salad -------------
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:11
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It's funny how some of you are actually being all super serious about this thread. Chill out. Also, you're all wrong, and Meshuggah are still sh*te.  Who's next?
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:12
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Wait so do you want us to take you seriously or not? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:16
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I want a fight!
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:17
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A serious fight or not? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:18
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They are certainly an acquired taste and a difficult listen initially, but well worth the effort. The heaviest band I've ever heard. I saw a description of their music as the soundtrack to chaotic scenes on an alien planet in a distant galaxy (aka Aliens perhaps?). A perfect description. Also their live album is an absolute classic. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:22
Yes.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:25
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Yes to a serious fight or yes to a non-serious one? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:33
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:35
Moved to Just für Fung ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:36
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Successful. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:38
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I like 'em so I'm gonna beat the stuffin' outta you ya pleb ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:59
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Now we're talking! |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 12:10
| I see you are a Dream Theater fanboy^Convince me they do not suck. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 12:13
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No problem! Just don't be hijacking my thread ya lazy bum! Start your own.
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 12:13
------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 12:17
I have never heard these guys before so I went on YouTube to check them out. I'm 57 years old and I think I'm going to start cutting myself.  For this waste of musical notes to be listed on this site is surely one of the signs of the Apocolypse. Just thinking about what I heard has made my bowels loosen and I feel it running down my leg. God please forgive me for the vile and degrading act that I have committed by allowing these noises to eminate from my precious JBL's  ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 12:20
| Your ridiculous thread got moved to just for fun where it is fair game for clowns hijackers bums and trolls. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 12:25
A lesser know Cher tune ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 12:27
You know, it reminded me of that ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 12:28
| Cher would make a wonderful addition to Meshuggah. I can see her out front doing her thing. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 13:34
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And the thing of everyone in the band ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 13:45
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JD I'm very sorry you had to experience that. Listening to Meshuggah, I mean. If you can't control your bowels that's your problem. But Meshuggah... nobody should have to endure that. You're a brave man, and I salute you.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 14:22
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I wish I could accept your salute but I'm currently curled up in a fetal position in the corner of my office listening to a continuous loop ELP's Atropos and weeping like a little school girl trying to purge the memory. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 14:31
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Catch 33 is my favourite album of theirs because it's the most varied. ------------- https://twitter.com/ProgFollower" rel="nofollow - @ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 14:36
| I reviewed that album, I did give it a fair few listens, to give it a chance. Whole album sounded like one riff all the way through. |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 14:37
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I recommend not listening to them then. ------------- https://twitter.com/ProgFollower" rel="nofollow - @ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 22 2015 at 15:25
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Because once you hear them, you can't UNhear them! ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: April 23 2015 at 07:01
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They should collaborate with William Shatner. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 23 2015 at 07:29
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Boldly going where no one has gone before...and then never returning. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 23 2015 at 09:42
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Just because of this thread, I went to my local library and rented three (3) albums of this band. The next logical step is to buy said albums in the limited edition format, go to the concerts (and posting some videos on PA), getting some autographs (and posting them on PA), and so on, and so on... JUST FOR YOU, DEAR FORUMITES. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 23 2015 at 10:00
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Logically?? Fascinating !! (Insert appropriate Vulcan salute here) /\ /\ | V | __| | (__ __ / ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: April 23 2015 at 15:11
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First album of theirs I heard was Chaosphere, and it baffled the sh*t out of me. Got rid of it. Decided to try again with catch thirtythr33, and that was the one that clicked. Have since acquired Nothing, I and obZen. All fine discs. But I have not re-acquired Chaosphere. ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:42
I win. 
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:49
| Think I'll wait a while before I do my "Pink Floyd are awful" thread. That's sure to kick up a storm. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 12:14
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Why put off till tomorrow...
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 17:28
Ah, I got it - especially the comment about Wonder Woman's "tits" in the thread about Captain Marvel & Aquaman. You're a cave troll, aren't you? Time to ready my "special mixtape", then. |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 00:22
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Um, not really. Just because you disagree with peoples opinions online doesn't automatically make them a "troll" (urgh, I hate that term).
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 04:21
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inject your blood with Ahab -------------  
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 06:35
I won't claim to be a 'fan' of theirs. I don't like 'death growl'. I love vinyl. 'I' Special Edition is available on LP. I bought it coz I admire technical and heavy music. I got this - actually, more so. I worship at the altar of Magma, so I can 'accept' the voice here. No other style of singing can fit this music. Abrasive as all-hell, I just love the fury and force at which these guys play. Not an album I spin every day - and I enjoy Kajagoogoo lots more, but to call these guys 'utter s.h.i.t.e.' is just plain idiocy (is there such a word ?  ).I do not like Death Growl, but I have no problem enjoying the album I have. |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 10:20
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Well damn you guys wouldn't be very big fans of a lot of the music I like. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 09:30
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Anybody who says some act or another is awful usually just doesn't get it and instead of taking the time to let the musical magic unravel comes up with some simplistic stupid statement like this. I didn't start out like Messhuggah but i was curious enough to what all the fuss was about and after listening for a while it really sunk in and now they are one of my favorite extreme metal bands. As far as picking fights, i couldn't care less what anyone else likes but this is quite the hilarious thread. Maybe there should be a new category for music like this: music too complex for the uninclined to enjoy
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 09:46
 BAM! Hard right jab by siLLy PuPPy. But no. It's not "too complex for the uninclined"... it's just utter bollocks.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 11:50
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%20" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=drGWiUcekXY -------------
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 14:15
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