The Psych Rock Lounge
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Topic: The Psych Rock Lounge
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Subject: The Psych Rock Lounge
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:21
 Sure there's a tongue stuck firmly in cheek here, but I genuinely adore the psychedelic sounds of the 60s and 70s. It was my first real musical love and for that it will always hold a very special place in my knee. The Steve Miller Band, Cream, The United States Of America, Red Krayola, Dr John: The Night Tripper, The 13th Floor Elevators, Small Faces, Traffic, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Grateful Dead, Ultimate Spinach, Burnin' Red Ivanhoe, Young Flowers, Steppeulvene, The Electric Prunes, The Chocolate Watch Band, Love, Ten Years After (Stonedhenge baby!), Blue Cheer and Jimi and Jim and Janis and all those other fantastic creatures from a time and place that was absolutely magical (flowers aside). This is the thread for all your faves, old and young, because a marvellous forum like this will of course also be able to embrace all of the throwback madness that's been going on in recent years with acts such as Tame Impala, Pond, Foxygen, Temples, The Soundcarriers, Ariel Pink and The Flaming Lips    Go on, let's have it! What are your experiences with this wonderful branch of rock music? ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:25
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WE DON'T WANT NO STINKIN THREAD WE WANT A WHOLE FORUM DEDICATED TO THIS TOPIC AFTER ALL IT'S MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN bla bla bla bla Sorry, lost my cool there for a moment. BUT THAT'S OKAY FOR MEE! BECAUSE I AM A WILD AND CRAZY GUY!  ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:29
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^Thanks Dave, but I hope that the ultimate purpose of listing experimental psych groups under PA's Psychedelic Space Rock genre is what this site accomplishes in the long term. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:30
Reminds me of the guy who once said something clever about greasing the camel... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:32
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Im not sure his will qualify - but !! ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:32
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It's... it's... happening! ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:36
That will never happen Steve. Ok maybe, but it would take a complete change of personnel as well as an entirely new site. Sorry, I know how much you believe in this, but I am in full agreement with Uwe (Rivertree) who is 'ringleader' of the psych team. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
SteveG wrote:Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:38
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One of Ariel Pink's more psychedelic moments. All the more remarkable because it was created just by overdubbing himself at home. A great example of how "lo-fi" recording can really add to the value of a piece of music. Release date was circa 2006, but it sounds much older to me. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 10:41
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Never look a gift horse in the mouth! Headstone. The 13th floor Elevators never released first album featuring clean recordings of the band's classic material from The Psychedelic Sounds of The 13 FE's first muddy sounding album and showcases why Roky Erickson is perhaps America's greatest rock vocalist. Just slightly Psych at this stage but if you were taken by the band's appearance and back story on Dave Grohl's Sonic Highways series on HBO and want to explore this true American musical cult phenomenon, then this is the place to start.
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 11:29
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Hey this is was great idea! As usual in PA Forum! Coincidently I listened the whole morning to a band that has become one of my favourites: I'm talking about The Doors, they are awesome ! Glad to recall them here and there. -------------  "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 14:23
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I'm pretty sure the 13th Floor Elevators were the very first music group to identify their own style as "psychedelic". The http://visupview.blogspot.dk/2014/08/slip-inside-this-house-nightmare-trip.html" rel="nofollow - behind-the-scenes history of not just Roky Erickson's life but the careers of the other musicians also reads like something straight out of Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus Trilogy. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 14:46
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^Thanks for the uplink on the Elevators, TM. They always had a great story that sometimes overshadowed the music. I hope that people will come to appreciate them more, now. And the 'It's a happening' vid was so good that I had a flashback. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 16:14
The 13th Floor Elevators also made http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSA0Tckwbk" rel="nofollow - 'Slip inside this House'  Funny thing is that I love the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW0d6mFqrpM" rel="nofollow - cover done by Primal Scream just as much ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 16:35
I love 60's/70's psych though I'm not an afficionado like others here...I grew up on 60's top 40 radio and psych was a good chunk of what was popular. It's funny, I've always thought there was a very fine line between psych and early prog to the point that I don't really distinguish between them  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 08:05
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A lounge within a lounge is not a lounge An annex or room perhaps  A 'lounge' ought to be subject to PA approval. Well I guess it is sort of, given that Guldbamsen initiated the thread
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 09:25
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^Ok, enough of that. On with the show! If there's any current pop rock group more misunderstood than the Flaming Lips, I would like to meet them. Formed as an Alt Rock group some 30 years ago by the Coyne brothers and joined by an multi instrumentalist who took the job as their drummer, the Flaming Lips exuded a psych pop vibe while remaining brother Wayne Coyne wrote existential lyrics that were hidden by both their music and "the world is a giant party" day glow persona. This netted the group the critically acclaimed 2002 album Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots which sold well and was backed with two similar albums before the band took a serious detour and produced two albums that were both musically and lyrically existential. 2009's Embryonic and 2013's The Terror evoked Popol Vuh like soundscapes of dread, from multi instrumentalist Steven Drzod, now coupled with Coyne's dark and cynical lyrics. One song from The Terror starts off with the line "You've got a lot of nerve to F___ with me." From the Flaming Lips? Really? Yes. However, all of this putting the band into some kind of schizophrenic identity. Solution to the problem? The Lips remake Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band in their own image and call the album "With a Little Help From My Fwends" (The spelling is correct). Is it any good? I think so as I did not feel an urge to play the original after hearing it. I think that The Lips found a way to merge their musical personalities on this one coupled with, what I suspect, is part lo fi home recording mixed with hi fi studio trickery to give the album an almost 3D sound effect. But I think the trick is not to take album seriously. After all, the Flaming Lips never took themselves seriously either.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 09:37
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The Flaming Lips' evolution has been remarkable, but it has also been very gradual, punctuated every ten years or so with a more pronounced leap forward. I listened to them in the late 80s in college, and I never would have dreamed they would still be around today, let alone leading the pack of experimental pop. I've hopped on/off board and followed them loosely ever since then, but I don't think I really considered myself a true fan until their recent abrasive Krautrock phase kicked in a few years ago. Once I got that, I had a more sympathetic view towards their other albums leading up to it. On paper, they're not doing anything overly crazy or complex. But the mere fact that they can come up with all these random ideas in the first place, and then actually put these crazy whims into practice, and turn them into enjoyable albums, is a pretty impressive feat. The 4 CD simultaneous experiment of "Zaireeka" seems like a pretty obvious gimmick now that it's actually been done, but can you imagine what leaps of logic and imagination were necessary to actually give birth to the idea and to the finished product? ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 13:55
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The Lips are pretty great. Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots is a wonderful album of light, happy neo-psych. And The Soft Bulletin is just masterful; we got a lot from their first trip into psych. Heck, if it weren't for In The Aeroplane Over The Sea, then The Soft Bulletin would've probably ended up the ITCOTCK for American indie.
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 14:30
On the subject of Roky Erickson, how many of his solo albums are worth hearing? I quite enjoy Roky Erickson and the Aliens and Gremlins Have Pictures, not quite sold on the acoustic albums yet though. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 14:48
http://www.amazon.com/Have-Always-Been-Here-Before/dp/B0007MRXUG" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Have-Always-Been-Here-Before/dp/B0007MRXUG ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 14:56
here we go - the psych rock lounge has been opened  let me propose a typical band which is really excellent, though can't be filed under the progressive rock tag - Tame Impala ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 14:57
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Here is a death metal cover of a Roky Erickson song by the way, I'm kind of surprised there aren't more considering the horror B-movie themes in a good deal of his solo discography. I like that they actually preserve a sort of psychedelic feel with the way the interweaving feedback from the guitar and bass are used. (something Autopsy have also utilized to great effect, not sure if they're actually inspired by Roky though) ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 15:03
Truly wonderful band. Lonerism is a masterpiece, and I love this one description I got of it once: "This sounds like The Beatles making a Radiohead album."
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 16:34
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^Thanks for the videos, guys. Tame Impala is awesome but this is the first time I've seen the vid, and I didn't know Entombed did a cover of Vampire, which was way cool.
And have to thank David for the Primal Scream cover of Slip Inside. Now I'm into Primal Scream, again.
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 03:22
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Tame Impala remind me a bit of Spiritualized or some of the other overtly psychedelic/spacy 1980s/1990s indie rock groups but with a more selfconsciously retro production... perhaps also less Velvet Underground-isms. Do the VU count as psychedelic, by the way? I'm not really sure, ideologically they were very different from that subculture but on the other hand they were a large influence on it in particular the Kosmische Musik movement. (I prefer that classification to "Krautrock" for several reasons) ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 03:34
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Just an idear : Delete the videolink when quoting
No need to post the same video link again ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 04:18
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Judged solely by how they sounded, I'd say VU were psychedelic in their approach. Venus in Furs is one of the most iconic psych tunes of the 60s together with White Rabbit. There was and is obviously a lot more to their music, but more than often you get that gooey thick wobbly carpet-like sound of theirs, and to me that first and foremost screams psych. And I agree, they did influence a fair few Krautrock acts from the motorik end of the scene. Throw in Ummagumma and the Saucerful of Secrets piece, and you wind up with (some of) the fuel that started the fire. Personally I think the mindset of the time, still with a major hangover from WWll, was to blame for the explorative and wild nature of the music. Something had to give. In many ways the same can be said about the birth of the psych scene. It's crazy when you think of how much brilliant and boundary pushing music that has been made in the face of violence and war. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 04:29
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VU are in a similar position as The Doors in that while using many of the same stylistic innovations as the psychedelic rock scene, in terms of "ethos" they came from a different perspective. Looking at the two bands' ideologies they strike me more as forerunners of respectively the noise rock and gothic rock movements of the 1980s. Similar situation as The Stooges' relationship to punk, for that matter. I guess it depends on how much you define music genres as specific sounds or styles, versus how much you define them as cultural movements. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 04:44
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 05:06
David has the ability to create a sub-forum/lounge ... I suspect he just doesn't know how. Meanwhile, an early British Psych band (from my home town to boot) ------------- What? |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 08:55
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^'lounge' ought to be replaced with a more appropriate term in the thread title before it blows up in our faces. It was created with good intentions but if it continues under the radar I fear it will eventually end up as an official/actual/real lounge. This is how the site slowly deteriorates. SteveG probably hasn't stopped rubbing his hands since the creation of this 'lounge'.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 09:16
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The only difference between a lounge and a thread is comfier chairs. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 11:31
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The new Foxygen album, ...And Star Power, is pretty wierd Psych, especial when you get past the first 3-4 tracks. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 11:46
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VU & The Doors is Psych in my book, even though the style is a bit different from the main Psych sound, (if such a thing exist) ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 12:49
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There are of course a lot of good psych rock bands out there from the old days and some good new ones also...2 of my favorites from the late 80's,... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 13:38
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Of course! The Bevis Frond. Andy Ward (ex-Camel) was their drummer for quite a while. Love the Frond. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 17 2014 at 15:52
David has the ability to create a sub-forum/lounge ... I suspect he just doesn't know how. If this thread can introduce some members to artists just outside of prog (and that includes me) without upsetting the PA apple cart, I will be very grateful just for that. And I definitely had the Dukes in mind for this thread. Thanks again.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 18 2014 at 15:56
 Just to follow up on the Dukes of the Stratosphere video. For those unfamiliar with the group, The Dukes Of The Strastophere is a nom de disc for English new wavers XTC, who put out an EP and full length album of of fun pysch pop that references Barrett era Floyd, Walrus era Beatles and many others 60's era pysch rock groups like the Zombies and The Move. Pictured above is a reissue of 1985's EP 25 O'clock that comes in a cool mini book with liner notes that mimic Floyd's CD liner notes for their Piper album. The 1987 Psonic Psunspots album is also available in a mini book CD format. Both albums are also available on vinyl. If you like XTC along with prog music, these two albums are a lot of fun and stand up musically on their own.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 18 2014 at 16:04
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 10:05
White Light/White Heat: The Velvet Underground. When PA members ask if VU should be considered proto prog, no doubt it's this 1868 album that that comes to the fore of the discussion. After splitting off with Nico after VU's debut album, the band signed an endorsement contract with effects manufacturer Vox. Using every conceivable effects processor from that company, the group recorded the extremely advant garde White Light/White Heat album (the name may have been prompted by producing white noise in the studio which in 1968 was a nightmare to record). The album's standout track is the seventeen and a half minute long proto prog epic Sister Ray. The album's black on black cover seems like an answer to The Beatles' "white album" cover design. This album was a giant step away from psych toward early American prog. However the term progressive in 1968 only referred to American revisionist politics. So unless something changes, sixties psych rock is this album's worthy home.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 11:06
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A truly lovely, noisy album that is. Really out there for 1868. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 12:38
Just curious, by example, what is progressive psych according to Steve'TheLobbyist'G ? (I see there's still life in "The Psych Rock Lobby", that's what I think it should be called
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 12:42
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Without lobbyists, there would be no lobbies. And without lobbies, there would be no elevators. And without elevators, there would be no Roky Erickson. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 13:58
 ^And without the Elevators, there would be no Moving Sidewalks. The second great psychedelic blues band to emerge from Texas featuring the great Billy Gibbons on guitar, who would go on to mega success with ZZ Top.Featured is the band's one and only album from 1969 titled Flash. Another gem from the early world of Psychedelic rock.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 14:43
A step backwards as this album from 1970 is listed under Heavy Prog, which does seem appropriate as Quartermas were like a heavier version of ELP and a bit gruffer. The group still had a bit of a psych vibe going on as well so Quartermas is excellent for pysch fans, proto fans as well as heavy prog fans. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 15:02
Love this one. Definitely at a unique intersection of psych, hard rock, and the old keys/bass/drums combo.
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 16:04
Hey, just found this: Kappa, by the band Samurai. Not the British band, but the Japanese one featuring Mickey Curtis. Some wonderful psych, both light and heavy, and very progressive. Is featured on this site. I'm loving it, I would recommend it, and I will review it soon.
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 17:21
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This ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 17:28
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^ Awesome.
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 18:30
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and now something contemporary ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:08
Electric Wurms Musik De Schewer Zu Twerk For fans of the Flaming Lips' moody Krautrock excursions with the excellent 2009 album Embryonic and 2013's darker masterpiece The Terror, and find the Lips' new Sgt. Pepper offering too goofy or sacrilegious. Musik De Shewer Twerk (Music That's Hard to Twerk to) by The Electric Wurms is an EP of Flaming Lips head honchos Wayne Coyne and Steven Drozd, together with some musician friends, producing another keyboard laden album of soundscapes marked out with ghostly guitar and is an a similar vane to The Terror. Steven Drozd is still in the musical drivers seat on this one and the EP doesn't disappoint.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:25
Stardeath and The White Dwarfs Wastoid Stardeath and The White Dwarfs share a similar sound to the Flaming Lips (Wayne Conye of the Lips is Star Deaths leader Jeff Coyne's uncle), but the band is more guitar based, heavier at times, serious, existential and also markedly psychedelic. Wastoid by WD&SD is another great album for fans of the Flaming Lips' Embryonic and The Terror albums.
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:45
 Bakery's Momento. Another excellent piece of proggy psych mixing lighter and heavier elements. This Australian band also switches up between guitar and keys as lead instrument a lot. A very interesting and enjoyable listen.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:54
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does Janis Joplin count as psych? -------------  
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 12:01
I'm a big XTC fan and those are both excellent and fun albums....recommended to all psych rock fans and of course XTC fans. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 12:36
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Not as 'heavy' as some of the other psych rock bands but these guys always made me feel good when I listened to them. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 12:56
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 13:18
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Can't get enough live Hendrix? Don't worry, be happy. With the current availability of nine live Hendrix albums, Live At Monterrey Live in The West, Winterland. Live At Berkeley Live In Miami, live at Woodstock, Live at Oakland, Live at Woburn and the evergreen Band Of Gypsys, there's more than a few choices available for fans of Hendrix live outings (like me). Many complain that it's greed from the Hendrix estate that is the motive for all these releases but I think not as fans are crazy for this stuff. And it's a long way off from the 50 plus live offerings available from Stevie Ray Vaughan, who was recorded in everything from concert halls, television shows and corner bars, with wildly erratic sound quality. The Hendrix live discs are of varying quality too but all are listenable with some being better than others. My personal picks are Live at Berkeley and Miami, with Live at Monterrey and Woodstock having excellent historical as well as musical value. I don't believe there's anymore decent live material available to pilferage from the Hendrix vaults (at least I hope not) as it's probably of sub par quality. Unfortunately, that hasn't stop people from issuing sub par concert material from other artists in the past.  ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 13:25
That was amazing Uwe!  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 13:31
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^Absolutely! Two cool vids from Raintree and Dr.Wu. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 13:34
Love all the Hendrix live material, especially that Berkeley show.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 16:53
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Interesting how we all view these various artists.....for instance growing up listening to these bands when they were happening I never thought of Cream or Hendrix as 'psychedelic rock' but more as just rock with blues and psych elements. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 22:49
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Just blind bought Musik, Die Schwer Zu Twerk off your rec, Steve, and it's awesome. Sounds like a mix of psychedelic and proggy takes on not just rock, but also glitch and neo-Hi-NRG. Very unique and enjoyable.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 05:22
No wonder 'psychedelic rock' is virtually an undefinable genre. 'Get-stoned-to music' ('Got-stoned-to') seems to be the best description of the music, which really could mean any genre of music.
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 05:25
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I think of psychedelic rock as more of a "cultural movement" than a genre of music. That's the reason I said earlier in this thread that I'm not sure whether to count The Doors and Velvet Underground as part of it: In terms of lyrical themes, visual aesthetic and overall guiding philosophy they seem to have come from a somewhat different place than most of the groups mentioned here. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 05:51
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that Hendrix Berkeley show is fantastic, and the Live at the Fillmore East set is awesome too ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 05:59
Indeed it is. I always thought the Fillmore East concert was his best moment not only because of his playing but also due to his very tight band. Buddy Miles really made a lot of difference, the songs became more powerful and punchy with his drumming. |
Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 06:06
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Did I put a mention in for my band, here ? Latest album https://brotherhoodofthemachine.bandcamp.com/album/trip-hazard :-) ------------- |
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 06:54
Yeah, that seems more like the proper approach to psychedelic rock.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 09:49
 was actually the Band Of Gypsys). It is indeed a killer performance, so... Hendrix: Live At The Fillmore.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 09:58
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Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 10:17
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Psychedelic Rock: Definition. Just a snippet from Wikipedia describing some of Psychedelic Rock's numerous traits including sound styles and characteristics. (You can view the whole enchilada at Wiki) Psychedelic rock is a style of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music" rel="nofollow - rock music that is inspired or influenced by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelia" rel="nofollow - psychedelic culture and attempts to replicate and enhance the mind-altering experiences of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_drug" rel="nofollow - psychedelic drugs . It often uses new recording techniques and effects and draws on non-Western sources such as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raga" rel="nofollow - ragas and drones of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_India" rel="nofollow - Indian music .
It was pioneered by musicians including http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles" rel="nofollow - the Beatles , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Byrds" rel="nofollow - the Byrds , and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yardbirds" rel="nofollow - the Yardbirds , emerging as a genre during the mid-1960s among http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_rock" rel="nofollow - folk rock and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues_rock" rel="nofollow - blues rock bands in the United Kingdom and United States, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead" rel="nofollow - Grateful Dead , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Airplane" rel="nofollow - Jefferson Airplane , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jimi_Hendrix_Experience" rel="nofollow - the Jimi Hendrix Experience , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Cream , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors" rel="nofollow - the Doors and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd" rel="nofollow - Pink Floyd . It reached a peak in between 1967 and 1969 with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_Love" rel="nofollow - Summer of Love and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_Festival" rel="nofollow - Woodstock Rock Festival , respectively, becoming an international musical movement and associated with a widespread http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterculture_of_the_1960s" rel="nofollow - counterculture , before beginning a decline as changing attitudes, the loss of some key individuals and a back-to-basics movement, led surviving performers to move into new musical areas. Psychedelic rock influenced the creation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_pop" rel="nofollow - psychedelic pop and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_soul" rel="nofollow - psychedelic soul . It also bridged the transition from early http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues" rel="nofollow - blues - and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_music" rel="nofollow - folk music -based rock to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock" rel="nofollow - progressive rock , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glam_rock" rel="nofollow - glam rock , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_rock" rel="nofollow - hard rock and as a result influenced the development of subgenres such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music" rel="nofollow - heavy metal . Since the late 1970s it has been revived in various forms of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-psychedelia" rel="nofollow - neo-psychedelia .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sitar_full.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sitar_full.jpg" rel="nofollow - A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitar" rel="nofollow - sitar , much used on early records of the genre.As a musical style psychedelic rock attempted to replicate the effects of and enhance the mind-altering experiences of hallucinogenic drugs, incorporating new electronic and recording effects, extended solos and improvisation and was particularly influenced by eastern mysticism, reflected in use of exotic instrumentation, particularly from Indian music or the incorporation of elements of eastern music. Major features include:
I would say that the genre is a bit more than just a cultural phenomenon as it was also deeply sociological at times, with particular artists that I will explore in future posts. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 13:53
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Doors: Feast of Friends The Doors released a never seen documentary on themselves last week that was not made available to the public until now. The DVD and Blu-ray releases feature some cool extras described below. Feast Of Friends, filmed in 1968, was the first and only film produced about The Doors by The Doors. It offers a cinematic look at The Doors on the road during their summer 68 tour. While never truly completed, the film provides a stylistic approach in true sixties cinémavérité style. Concert performances are intercut with fly-on-the-wall footage of the group in their natural habitat, sometimes playful, sensitive, chaotic and touching. Other than a few appearances in film festivals in 1968, an official release would never be seen until now. Completely restored from the original negative, as supervised by Jim Morrison, the film has been color corrected and cleaned in high definition with the soundtrack totally remixed and remastered by long-time Doors collaborator Bruce Botnick. Bonus Features 1) Feast Of Friends: Encore A newly produced feature using footage shot for Feast Of Friends, Encore is a complimentary piece which provides a deeper look into the life of the band at this period as they tour, record, travel and even vacation together. The program avoids the typical selection of hits and makes use of The Doors rare recordings to accompany this unreleased footage. 2) The Doors Are Open A British TV documentary originally aired on December 17th, 1968, The Doors Are Open is focused around the band s performance at London s Roundhouse, which took place just days after the completion of filming for Feast Of Friends. Although previously released, the film has suffered from numerous sound and picture quality issues. Now the image quality has been dramatically improved and the sound has been transformed by Bruce Botnick to be as true to the original live sound as possible. 3) The End Filmed in Toronto, Canada in August 1967 and first broadcast in October that year, this performance of 'The End' was for The O'Keefe Centre Presents: The Rock Scene Like It Is. In addition to the performance it includes the introduction by Noel Harrison and later interviews by John Densmore, Robby Krieger, Ray Manzarek and Danny Sugerman. Many fans consider this recording to be one of the best Doors performances ever caught on film. |
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Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 14:00
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 14:01
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 14:11
Happy Holidays Everyone!  After the holidays we'll take a closer look at the Elevators' remastered 2nd and 3rd albums, a closer look at Country Joe and the Fish's psychedelic trips, Roky Erickson's 'best of' album The Evil One (also remastered), Brain Wilson's beautifully completed Brian Wilson Presents Smile, as well neo-psych from The Teardrop Explodes and current standard bearers Tame Impala.------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 15:28
 First brought to my attention on The Krautrock Space, this is a wonderful piece of psychkraut, driven almost solely by keys. On top of that the guitarist and singers shine at times to great effect. Album opener "The Summit" is essential classic psych.
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 03:12
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Here's some Australian psychedelic hard rock somewhere between Blue Cheer and Black Sabbath. Also kinda reminds me of Flower Travellin' Band. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 13:59
I really dig this one too. It's commonly named together with the rest of the 'faux Krautrock' releases such as Golem - Orion Awakes  Mittelwinternacht  Pyramid  The Nazgul  Galactic Explorers  I say faux Krautrock, because all of these were recorded in the 90s but with the intent of posing as long lost gems from the 70s. Many people fell for it - and still do to this day. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 14:59
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^Neo Krautrock? Naaah. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 15:29
Interesting. I do know that back in the late '60's, there were cash-in attempts by some record companies who would get itinerant and session musicians to lay down some psych, so as to ply it to eager hippies. A really good one to come from that:  They say that "Hell Preachers Inc." was an actual German band recording in disguise; they needed the money. They then went on to record some psychkraut in the early '70's. EDIT: Something even more tantalising about Supreme Psychedelic Underground: a few like to say that Blackmore, Lord, and Paice all contributed too. Imagine that! This album is a gold mine of good music and good legends. Now, Discogs likes to say that Cozmic recorded their album over the course of '72 and '73, like PA says, but it is entirely possible that it is this fauxkraut as you say.
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 24 2014 at 17:11
Heaven's End, by the band Loop. This is psych and garage done in the time and style of the first alternative rock, much like Spacemen 3's spectacular work. The album is garage rock riffs backed by a beautiful, ever soloing psych guitar, and the singer sings in the usual alt vein. It works out rather delightfully. Reissues also include a mean cover they did of "Rocket USA".
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 26 2014 at 08:35
The Soft Machine Turns On: An Early Collection In case SM fans forgot how psychedelically imbued their their early material was, and that they shared residency at at London's underground UFO club in the sixties with Pink Floyd, among others, their early live recordings of Turn On Vol. 1 and 2 have been combined on this new compilation of both albums. Just be aware that the original Turns On Vol. 2 contained some dodgy sounding live recordings. Aside from that, tune in, turn on, and get jazzed out.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 26 2014 at 08:59
Robin Trower Bridge Of Sighs Robin Trower's 1974 recording high point is still as fresh sounding today, forty years after it's initial release, due two several key factors. The first being that that Trower was unapologetic for his his influence and emulation of Jimi Hendrix, and the fact that while Hendrix questioned his own ability to play electric blues and his actual right to. Trower had no such hangups and was a proud Blues guitarist first and foremost. Another key to this album's success was that Trower, bassist and vocalist James Dewar and drummer Reg Isidore fully embraced the R&B of Band Of Gypsys, which was another musical avenue Hendrix felt conflicted about. The result was Trower's second album Bridge Of Sighs which saw Trower and company at the height of their writing and playing ability. This album incorporated dynamic R&B based numbers like Day Of The Eagle with the spacey majestic bluesy title track Bridge of Sighs. The fact that former Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick (Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road) recorded the album greatly helps as this is some of his finest post Beatles' work alongside McCartney's Band On the Run. If you haven't listened to Bridge of Sighs in a long while or are new to this album, do yourself a favor and give it a spin. And thank Mr. Hendrix for his inspiration.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 11:16
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Roky Erickson https://light-in-the-attic.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/release_image/10477/image/Roky_EvilOne.jpg" rel="nofollow">  The Evil One (Light I The Attic remastered edtion.) Musical archivists Light In The Attic have released Roky Erickson's seminal comeback album The Evil One, first released in the U.K. in 1980 with 5 different but excellent songs from the U.S. version released a year later. As Roky had written some 400 songs during his 'hiatus' from Rock in the early seventies, it's easy to see why a firm set list for both issues was problematic until now. KITA have issued all 15 songs that include those omitted on the U.S. release and includes Roky's horror themed I walked With A Zombie, Night of The Vampire, the essential Two Headed Dog and the near explicit Bloody Hammer that was kept off the U.K. release. Light in the Attic has done a great job cleaning up and remastering the sound from the original master tapes.  Don't Slander Me Rokys excellent follow up to The Evil One, Don't Slander Me shows Roky has moved on from the horror themes and back to good old hard rock with some of his best solo vocal work. this album features the seminal Roky song Starry Eyes. Another great remaster from Light In The Attic.
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 15:42
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What are the differences between The Evil One and the Roky Erickson and the Aliens S/T. Seems like they have the same cover art and many of the same tracklistings. I'm guessing the S/T is the European release of the same recording and The Evil One the US release? ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 16:35
The band's masterpiece. This is a mainly calm, beautiful, serene album eventually drenched in lofty orchestrations, but then ends up harsh, dour, and depressed. It's meant to represent a whole LSD trip, finishing in a paranoiac comedown and near OD. This record is as such a heck of a trip. Just perfect, the height of '80's neo-psych alternative alongside Ocean Rain. The symphonic side to the band's sound foreshadows J Spaceman's work with Spiritualized.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 18:05
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Always liked these guys and this early track was killer in those days..... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 09:22
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 13:09
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Listening to that album I can't help but get the feel Roky decided to embrace that it was the punk/garagerock crowd most of his fanbase came from, it's some pretty damn raw and abrasive stuff compared to his tenure with the Elevators with a lot of the songs being surprisingly aggressive even next to You're Gonna Miss Me. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 13:14
| ^I have to agree. I think that Roky was looking for an audience similar to Ozzy's or BOC with The Evil One, but I still get a kick out of the album. Even if it's a long way from Prog or 80's Metal. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 13:27
Country Joe and the Fish Electric Music for the Mind and Body 1967. One of the few bands that I'm surprised is not listed under Proto prog as Country Joe and the Fish sounded like a cross between the Doors and H.P. Lovecraft. More progressive than the former but less so than the latter. 1967's Electric Music For the Mind and Body sports some cool Farfisa driven rock with excellent electric blues supplied by two underrated guitarists, Barry Melton and David Cohen, who occasionally trade stellar leads. The album is known for it's explicit drug references and topical subject matter which may obscure some of the more adventurous tunes like Purpose Mouth, Section 43, The Masked Marauder and the 7 minute long avant garde closer Grace. Excellently remastered by Ace/vanguard with both mono and stereo versions available on a double CD reissue.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 13:36
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Nik Turner  Space Gypsy One album that is definitely listed under PA's Psych/Space prog site is the excellent 2013 album Space Gypsy by famed Hawkwind Co-founder Nik Turner. In case you missed it, the album is a blast and there's a great review of it on PA.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 13:41
^I listened to that a couple of times at my friend's place. While I found the music interesting I still found it hard to enjoy on account of the production. I tend to have problems with modern records, supposedly psych, that sound like they've been recorded in a lab Nahh give me Xitintoday instead ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 13:48
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^I can't lie David, the production is a bit home made, but Nik does some great turns on sax and flute and I dig the music as a whole. (I might be showing my age here!) ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 13:54
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We might be hearing things differently then Steve. I thought it sounded way too...erm studio-like. I missed dynamics in the overall sound and everything kinda sounded like it was recorded,or indeed played, at the same level. I tend to prefer the home made production over a professional studio job any day Then again, it really depends on the band. Steve Wilson can pull off the modern production thang with everything in it's right place and no superfluous "noise" etc etc....but the psych and krautrock fan in me WANTS and NEEDS the noise. Hell, it's half the music if you ask me! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 13:54
A bit too obvious a choice, but it's something I've been listening to non stop since Christmas Eve (please help me). I actually have two copies of the album, the 1999 edition and the 40th anniversary remix. I'm not too fond with the remix, however. There are some parts that I like - the whistling at the end of "Love Street", the clearer guitar on "We Could Be So Good Together", the quiet parts of "The Unknown Soldier" being a bit more louder, a little extra organ at the beginning of "Summer's Almost Gone" and so forth - but they do it by drowning out some other parts I do like. Oh well. Whining aside, this is a fantastic album. I like the schizophrenic vibe I get from it; one minute you have the guys skipping along the street all happy like ("Love Street"), the next they're conjuring a deranged proto-Alice Cooper sound ("Five To One"). ------------- He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball! |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 14:00
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 14:03
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Ahh, no worries Also fits the description of the kind of production I generally don't enjoy ie the digital one - that is if it's not an electronic release  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 14:04
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