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Topic: Recommend "EPICS" for me...
Posted By: M.L.KNIGHT
Subject: Recommend "EPICS" for me...
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:18
I have always liked the 25 minute epics. You know the ones....5 suites...silly bit in the middle....church organ....choir....crescendo. Can anyone recommend some to me in the vein of.....
    SPOCK'S BEARD
    GENESIS
    YES
    RUSH
    THE FLOWER KINGS
    TRANSATLANTIC
    MAGENTA
    I.Q.


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:25

you already covered most of the bands that I would have mentioned ... so please excuse the prog metal nature of my recommendations.

  • Dream Theater (A Change of Seasons, Octavarium)
  • Jethro Tull (Thick as a Brick)
  • Fates Warning (A Pleasant Shade of Grey, The Ivory Gate of Dreams)
  • Symphony X (The Divine Wings of Tragedy, The Odyssey)
  • Can (Bel Air)
  • Porcupine Tree (The Sky Moves Sideways, Voyage 34)
  • Neal Morse - One (Three epics here)
  • Redemption (Sapphire)

 



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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:29
A passion play by Jethro Tull

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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:29
Surgical Sound Specimens From The Museum Of Skin

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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:30
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - L'Evoluzione

Best symphonic epic that isn't by Yes.


Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:35
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

A passion play by Jethro Tull

+1

(Highly recommended)


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Posted By: M.L.KNIGHT
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:37
NICE ONE. I've got some  DREAM THEATER,JETHRO TULL, PORCUPINE TREE and NEAL MORSE is
 GOD!! (no pun intended)
 To be honest, I've not heard of FATES WARNING or REDEMPTION so I'll check them out.
 Not fussed about SYMPHONY X....CHEERS!


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:38
...What about Banco?! 


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 16:42
My favourite 'epic' is a mere 16 minutes or so ........ Awaken by YES -
what a classic! Perfection.


Instrumental, how about Liquid Tension Experiment - When the
water breaks


Posted By: omri
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 16:57

1. ELP - Tarkus

2. Renaissance - Sheherezade

3. Jethro Tull - Thick as a brick

4. King crimson - Lizard

5. Aphrodite's child - All the seats were occupied (this one is bizarre but great IMO. If you do'nt like bizarre ignore it).



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Posted By: silvertree
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 17:14
How about Il Giardino del Mago by Banco (1st album). It's "only" 18 minutes long...


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 17:15

Try both of The Tangent cds "The Music That Died Alone" and "The World That We Drive Through".

Also Echolyn's "Mei"



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Posted By: silvertree
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 17:17
Murple - Io Sono Murple (whole album epic).


Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 17:22
Originally posted by silvertree silvertree wrote:

Murple - Io Sono Murple (whole album epic).







HELL YEAH!!!


Posted By: Shryker
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 17:32

Pink Floyd - Echoes

 



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Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 17:33

Some recommendations:

- Salisbury (URIAH HEEP) - 16+ minutes

- In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (IRON BUTTERFLY) - 17+ minutes

- Eruption (FOCUS) - 20+ minutes

- Hamburger Concerto (FOCUS) - 22+ minutes

- Lizard (KING CRIMSON) - 21+ minutes

- In Held Twas In I (PROCOL HARUM) - 17+ minutes

- Remember the Future Parts 1 & 2 (NEKTAR) - 35+ minutes

- The Valentyne Suite (COLOSSEUM) - 17+ minutes

- Baker Street Muse (JETHRO TULL) - 16+ minutes

- Parthenogenesis (CANNED HEAT) - 20+ minutes (progressive boogie!)

Have fun!



Posted By: sstarless
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 17:56

ELP - Tarkus (you need an album incerts to fully enjoy it)

Renaissance - Sheherezade (great one, but otherwise week album)

Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons

Symphony X - The Odyssey ( my favorite progmetal epic)



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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 18:16
Karn Evil 9 - Emerson, Lake and Palmer


Posted By: Tiresias
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 20:42

    To actually answer your question:

    SPOCK'S BEARD: The Light, The Water, The Great Nothing, Flow, Time Has Come
    GENESIS: Supper's Ready

    YES: Close To The Edge, Anything off of Tales, Awaken

    RUSH: 2112, Fountain of Lamneth
                                                                

    THE FLOWER KINGS: Stardust we Are, Humanizzmo, Silent Inferno, Garden of Dreams, The Truth Will Set You Free, Devils Playground, Drivers Seat, Love Supreme, etc
    TRANSATLANTIC: My New World, Stranger In Your Soul, Suite Charlotte Pike, Duel With the Devil, All Of The Above, In Held (Twas) I

Not sure about the other ones, though.... Take your Pick



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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 20:47
Gates of Delrium, from Relayer


Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 21:28

I second Gates of Delerium.



Posted By: JedHead
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 21:41
Originally posted by Tiresias Tiresias wrote:

    TRANSATLANTIC: My New World, Stranger In Your Soul, Suite Charlotte Pike, Duel With the Devil, All Of The Above, In Held (Twas) I

 

I was going to say 'Any song from TransAtlantic, except 'we all need some light' because that is the only song under a half hour, haha'.



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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 08:22
Cassandra gemmini-The mars volta best prog epic ever...


Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 08:30

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Cassandra gemmini-The mars volta best prog epic ever...

Incorrect. Have another guess.



Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 08:38

My all-time epic, to be honest, has always been A Change of Seasons by Dream Theater.

However, that takes nothing away from these other great ones (I'll try and recommend songs others have not yet):

First Light by Shadow Gallery, from their Legacy record,

Gargoyles, Angels Of Darkness by Rhapsody, off Power of the Dragonflame,

and The Last Human Gateway, and Harvester of Souls by IQ.

 

These songs are in no way better than, say, The Odyssey or The Divine Wings of Tragedy by Symphony X, or any of the Tranatlantic/Neal Morse/Spock's Beard epics, but they are nevertheless some of my favorite epics.



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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 08:49
Tomas Bodin - I AM. 3 Songs one epic cd


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 09:19
Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

My all-time epic, to be honest, has always been A Change of Seasons by Dream Theater.

However, that takes nothing away from these other great ones (I'll try and recommend songs others have not yet):

First Light by Shadow Gallery, from their Legacy record,

Gargoyles, Angels Of Darkness by Rhapsody, off Power of the Dragonflame,

First Light is awesome ... but the last 10 minutes are filler, and that kind of spoils it for me. But that still leaves 25 minutes of pure excellence ...



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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 09:26
"Henry" from "Hard'n'horny" by WIGWAM!


Posted By: riversdancing
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 09:54
Magellan - The Great Goodnight
In The Woods - Omnio?
Sieges Even - Tangerine Windows of Solace

and some more if you are brave enough to listen to:
Voivod - Jack Luminous

and a real killer (in hiding) :
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Mekong Delta - Dances of Death
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 10:57
Mother Gong - Wassilissa 22:28 (from their album Fairy Tales)
Clearlight - Clearlight Symphony (Part 1 and 2, 20:40 and 20:37)
the 2nd side of Steve Hillage's "Green" album can be taken as one piece of music, since all tracks flow into each other to form the long track "Om Rock" with the parts:
 
Unidentified (Flying Being) (4:30)
U.F.O. Over Paris (3:11)
Leylines to Glassdom (4:06)
Crystal City (3:36)
Activation Meditation (1:03)
The Glorious Om Riff (7:46)

together 24:05

of course a lot of Krautrock too. Ash Ra Tempel's "Join Inn" has the two tracks "Freak'n Roll" (19:15) and "Jenseits" (24:08). the first self-titled album of the Cosmic Jokers has the two tracks "Galactic Joke" 22:38 and "Cosmic Joy" 19:24, their 2nd album "Galactic Supermarket"  has "Kinder des Alls" 18:54 and "Galactic Supermarket" 19:24. Popol Vuh's "Affenstunde" has the two tracks "Ich mache einen Spiegel" 21:05 and "Affenstunde" 18:57.

to mention just a few


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Posted By: jitu
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 11:40
transatlantic-duel with the devil

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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 12:06
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - L'Evoluzione
Caravan - Nine Feet Underground
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons
Emerson Lake Palmer - Tarkus
Fantômas - Surgical Sound Specimens from the Museum of Skin
Genesis - Supper's Ready
IQ - Harvest of Souls
Mars Volta - Cassandra Geminni
Pink Floyd - Dogs
Pink Floyd - Echoes
Rush - 2112
Transatlantic - All of the Above
Triumvirat - Across the Waters
Van der Graaf Generator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers
Yes - Awaken
Yes - Close to the Edge
Yes - Ritual
Änglagård - Kung Bore

Just a few that I consider essential. And there certainly is a difference between an epic and a long song, so I didn't include for example any Schulze or TD stuff!


Posted By: Fervetopus
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 12:14
Kalevala, colossus of rhodes, etc. (from finnish site)


Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 12:29
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by undefinability undefinability wrote:

My all-time epic, to be honest, has always been A Change of Seasons by Dream Theater.

However, that takes nothing away from these other great ones (I'll try and recommend songs others have not yet):

First Light by Shadow Gallery, from their Legacy record,

Gargoyles, Angels Of Darkness by Rhapsody, off Power of the Dragonflame,

First Light is awesome ... but the last 10 minutes are filler, and that kind of spoils it for me. But that still leaves 25 minutes of pure excellence ...

That seems to be Shadow Gallery's worst area, I've noticed, when they're too plenteous.



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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 12:32

Originally posted by cobb cobb wrote:

Tomas Bodin - I AM. 3 Songs one epic cd

Is it any good?



Posted By: Sir Hogweed
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 14:21

Originally posted by cobb cobb wrote:

Tomas Bodin - I AM. 3 Songs one epic cd

Great epic indeed!

Also recommended, as mentioned before by severals

  • Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
  • Echolyn - Mei
  • The Tangent - A Gap In The Night
  • Neil Morse - One (2 epics, Transatlantic-style)


Posted By: Sir Hogweed
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 14:30
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

Originally posted by cobb cobb wrote:

Tomas Bodin - I AM. 3 Songs one epic cd

Is it any good?

Better than that. Highly recommenced for TFK epic lovers



Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:05
I Am by Tomas Bodin is absolutely recommended. Probably the best work from the Flower Kings family (although I have to admit The Tangent and Kaipa are right up there). It's even better IMO than any of the FK's discs. Buy it now... you won't regret it!


Posted By: pepolo
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:43
maybe this would help :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_over_fifteen_min utes_in_length (not limited to prog)


Posted By: pepolo
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:48
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_over_fifteen_minutes_in_length - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_over_fifteen_minu tes_in_length


Posted By: Kipper
Date Posted: August 16 2005 at 17:23
Supper's Ready and Ommadawn (part one) are two that spring to mind

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Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 18:29
I Suggest you listen to Tubular bells by Mike oldfield it is a classic epic and its great.

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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: August 20 2005 at 08:29

Uriah Heep's 'Salisbury' is a huge favourite of mine- it's the longest song they ever did and also the most progressive.

 



Posted By: Richardw
Date Posted: August 20 2005 at 08:48
CIRCUS - Movin' On  (The title track is a classic)


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 20 2005 at 09:22

Peter Hammill - Flight 19:38 (from the album "A Black Box", also a live version on "The Margin +")
Peter Hammill - A Headlong Stretch 19:24 (from the album "Roaring Forties")
Peter Hammill - Gog/Magog (In Bromine Chambers) 17:21 (from the album "In Camera")
Van der Graaf Generator - Meurglys III - the Songwriter's Guild 20:47 (from the album "World Record")



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Posted By: fender101
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 01:31
Originally posted by Shryker Shryker wrote:

Pink Floyd - Echoes

 

One of the best of all time. (although I am extreamly bias)

Also by the floyd Dogs off animals.



Posted By: italprogfan
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 03:25

 

some others that may be worth your while - not all are 25 minutes, but are still 'epics':

akritas - s/t (whole album)

apoteosi - prima realta from s/t album

atila - el principo del fin (the beginning of the end) from album of same name or shorter version on 'intencion'

caravan - for richard suite from 'if i could do it all over again, i'd do it all over you'

caravan - nine feet underground from 'in the land of grey and pink' (*!* - sorrry i had to mention this again - it's that good)

grobschnitt - solar music live (or the studio version on 'ballerman')

los jaivas - tarka y ocarina from 'los jaivas (1975) ('el indio')'

los jaivas - la poderosa muerte from 'alturas de macchu picchu'

cem karaca - safinaz from album of same name (a little different turkish psych)

magma - kohntark (parts 1 & 2) from 'hhai' (live)

montefeltro - canto from 'il tempo de la fantasia'

museo rosenbach - the 'uomo' suite from 'zarathustra' 

omni - ronda de las dunas from 'el vals de los duendes'

popol vuh - einsjager & siebenjager from album of same name

kostas tournas - aperanta chorafia (whole album)

 

also, as was noted earlier, murple - io sono murple

 

 



Posted By: Sam Fire
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 16:20

Originally posted by Yanns Yanns wrote:

Karn Evil 9 - Emerson, Lake and Palmer

!!! 

Tarkus is also really good, I highly recommend it!  I remember the first time that I listened to it all the way through (I was 11 or so, and had the attention span of a squirrel, so I only ever got up to "Stones of Years")... mindblowing...

And then, Rush has some excellent ones, like "2112", "Fountains of Lamneth", "Hemispheres", and then shorter pieces like "By-Tor and the Snow Dog", "The Necromancer", "Xanadu", and "La Villa Strangiato", which are questionable as "epics", but are good, long songs!

And those are all the epics that I listen to frequently, I really need to diversify in my proggish music-listening habits...



Posted By: gok22us
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 20:25

Yes - Mind Drive, Awaken, The Gates of Delirium, Ritual, The Revealing Science of God, Close to the Edge

Genesis - Suppers Ready

Dream Theater - Octavarium

ELP - Karn Evil 9 (all three parts together)

King Crimson - Starless

Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick

Pink Floyd - Dogs, Shine On Your Crazy Diamond, Echoes



Posted By: Dan Yaron
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 10:15
Grobschnitt - Rockpommel's Land can be considered an epic IMO.


Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 11:40

Echolyn: Mei

 

49+ minutes of prog bliss.

 



Posted By: richeym
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 12:28
anything by DEVIL DOLL


Posted By: Murdoch
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 16:08
Kate Bush- the Ninth Wave (Hounds of Love CD)




Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 11:11

Originally posted by riversdancing riversdancing wrote:

Voivod - Jack Luminous

one of the best metal-prog epic actually.

One essential epic is 'bema pamieci - zalobny rapsod' by Czeslaw Niemen, full of organs and great choir and obviously the warm voice of Niemen.



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Posted By: bobthesalesman
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:40

Herbie Hancock - Wandering Spirit Song

 

Not prog but its rather epic.  And damn good(kinda wierd).



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Posted By: tanis573
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:55

I've got a few songs to recommend:

Taurus II - Mike Oldfield

Hergest Ridge, Pt. 1 - Mike Oldfield

Ommadawn, Pt. 1 - Mike Oldfield

Incantation, Pt. 1 - Mike Oldfield

Echoes - Pink Floyd

The Divine Wings of Tragedy - Symphony X

The Odyssey - Symphony X

The Gates of Delirium - Yes

 

 

 



Posted By: morpheusdraven
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 16:30
there's a live version of Kayo Dot's The Antique available for free d/l from
their website www.kayodot.com (although structurally, it kind of anti-
climaxes in comparison to the way many traditional prog epics work. Still
very worthwhile.


Posted By: fender101
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 22:07
Originally posted by Sam Fire Sam Fire wrote:

Tarkus is also really good, I highly recommend it!  I remember the first time that I listened to it all the way through (I was 11 or so, and had the attention span of a squirrel, so I only ever got up to "Stones of Years")... mindblowing...

 

Something I have never understood. Tarkus is an album not a single track so why is it considered an epic. Is it becausae alll the songs blend in together? Dont get me wrong its one of my favourite albums.



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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 22:15
All the basics .. -

Yes - CTTE, GOD
Genesis - Suppers Ready
Pink Floyd - Echoes, Atom Heart Mother
VdGG - Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers

and some of my other favourites

Caravan - Nine Feet Underground
Uriah Heep - Salisbury
Eloy - Apocolypse
Can - Bel Air
Collosseum - Valentyne Suite
Jethro Tull - TAAB, Passion Play
Nektar - A Tab In The Ocean
Procol Harum - In Held Twas I


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