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Rd 1 Detroit Bracket: Rush v. Le Orme

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Topic: Rd 1 Detroit Bracket: Rush v. Le Orme
Posted By: micky
Subject: Rd 1 Detroit Bracket: Rush v. Le Orme
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 08:40
From the Heavy Prog conference we have one of the seminal heavy prog groups and one of the most beloved of all rock groups.

From o' Canada

RUSH!!!!



^ hell yeah!! LOL

From the RPI conference we have one of the Italian greats responsible for some of the greatest albums of the 70's.

From Italy

LE ORME!!!



Vegas odd makers have installed Rush as a 25 vote favorite but.. bah.. there is no but and I love Le Orme and won't be voting for them. Zero hope there guys. LOL Horrible 1st round draw for Le Orme.



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:00
0-2.. whoa.. 

what the hell... make it 0-3!!!!


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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:01
^ Yassir! Big smile


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Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:06
Whichever isn't Rush

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:07
could we have the making of the first upset.. and a major one at that and see one of the top 8 seeds go in the first round!!

then again.. the Rush army will decend upon us soon I'm sure hahha


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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:26
Neither are my favs, but Le Orme it is...


Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:26
Slight edge to Orme before The Rush Army arrives.


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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:32
Le Orme.

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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:39
Uomo di Pezza is too good. To the (apparent) underdogs. Plus, push comes to shove, I only really love A Farewell To Kings of Rush's grand library.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:39
first vote for Rush woot woot

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:41
Second vote for Rush


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:50
If Rush loses in the first round it is going to make my leaving PA much easier with my job change in a couple of weeks.

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 09:58
Le Orme!!


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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 10:03
Really like both. Voted for Le Orme.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 10:07
Rush is my favourite band, I felt like I grew up with them. Le Orme might be my favourite Italian band but yeah I can't vote against Rush.

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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 10:15
Tough choice but I gotta go with Le Orme.

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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 10:22
RUSH!!!

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 10:24
Rush, even though Le Orme may be my favourite RPI band.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 10:25
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

If Rush loses in the first round it is going to make my leaving PA much easier with my job change in a couple of weeks.


LOL that is the spirit!


Emotional blackmail... I'll use that for when ELP needs it. Probably in  the first round LOL

Vote ELP or I'll leave again...


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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 10:43
I love Le Orme but I'll go with Rush on this one.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 10:48
I really like two songs by Rush. But I love Le Ormes four first albums.


Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 11:59
Rush


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 12:09
Le Orme, of course. 


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 12:15
I like both bands but Rush wins this one.

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 12:29
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

If Rush loses in the first round it is going to make my leaving PA much easier with my job change in a couple of weeks.


LOL that is the spirit!


Emotional blackmail... I'll use that for when ELP needs it. Probably in  the first round LOL

Vote ELP or I'll leave again...
 
I think that now nobody is gonna believe you anymore hahah.
I had already voted for one of my favourite bands of all time: obviously Le Orme!


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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 12:36
Don't really love either band, but I prefer Rush.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 12:38
One band has produced masterpieces, the other is Rush.

Easy choice with Le Orme here.


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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 13:20
Rush.

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 13:28
I haven't yet become a big fan of Rush, but I definitely like Moving Pictures.
Le Orme's Contrappunti, though, is one of my all time favorite albums, and some of their other early albums are quite good too.
So this is one of the easy choices for me: Le Orme.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 13:39
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

If Rush loses in the first round it is going to make my leaving PA much easier with my job change in a couple of weeks.


LOL that is the spirit!


Emotional blackmail... I'll use that for when ELP needs it. Probably in  the first round LOL

Vote ELP or I'll leave again...
 
I think that now nobody is gonna believe you anymore hahah.
I had already voted for one of my favourite bands of all time: obviously Le Orme!


hah. Perhaps not. everyone knows that one merely takes vacations from the site, even years in length, but one never truly leaves.

 I guess I'll just threaten 'cancellation' of the tournament if ELP loses to some half ass band like Camel again LOL


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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 14:22
Rush by a very long way.

PFM v Rush would be much closer, but I'd still vote Rush.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 14:27

Le Rush.....



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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 17:01
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

  
 I guess I'll just threaten 'cancellation' of the tournament if ELP loses to some half ass band like Camel again LOL
 
Shocked Hey Micky don't do this please if that happens.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 17:16
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

  
 I guess I'll just threaten 'cancellation' of the tournament if ELP loses to some half ass band like Camel again LOL
 
Shocked Hey Micky don't do this please if that happens.


Angry and here I thought we had a new member of the ELP Ultra's in you...  LOL

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 17:24
LOLLOL YES!!
 


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 17:33
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

LOLLOL YES!!
 


that is the spirit!!!! Heart

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 18:45
Le Orme is probably my fave RPI but have to go with Rush!

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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 19:02
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

  
 I guess I'll just threaten 'cancellation' of the tournament if ELP loses to some half ass band like Camel again LOL
 
Shocked Hey Micky don't do this please if that happens.


Angry and here I thought we had a new member of the ELP Ultra's in you...  LOL

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/magnification01/media/eptkb_zps5c79a0fa.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">


When the time comes, I will overstate my dislike of ELP just for you. Wink


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 19:22
Love them both but voting for the scrappy underdog looking to pull the big upset

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 19:25
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

One band has produced masterpieces, the other is Rush.

Easy choice with Le Orme here.
 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 20:01


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 20:08
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:




Heart great to see you around Greg. Been a long time


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 20:11
Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

  
 I guess I'll just threaten 'cancellation' of the tournament if ELP loses to some half ass band like Camel again LOL
 
Shocked Hey Micky don't do this please if that happens.


Angry and here I thought we had a new member of the ELP Ultra's in you...  LOL

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/magnification01/media/eptkb_zps5c79a0fa.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">


When the time comes, I will overstate my dislike of ELP just for you. Wink


Look at the newbie getting in the spirit!!  That is what I am talking about. Clap

Bring it on! Let's see what you've got LOL


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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 20:12
I had no idea there were so many Le Orme fans here.

C'MON GUYZ IT'S RUSH GEEZ

Where was Le Orme when you were squeezing pimples in your teenage bathroom, looking for guidance to summon the courage to approach that pretty girl in your class?  Who but Neil Peart could give you the courage to say THE HELL WITH GIRLS I'M GONNA WITHDRAW INTO MY FANTASY WORLD ?


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 20:14
LOLLOL 



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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 20:43
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

  
 I guess I'll just threaten 'cancellation' of the tournament if ELP loses to some half ass band like Camel again LOL
 
Shocked Hey Micky don't do this please if that happens.


Angry and here I thought we had a new member of the ELP Ultra's in you...  LOL

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/magnification01/media/eptkb_zps5c79a0fa.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">


When the time comes, I will overstate my dislike of ELP just for you. Wink


Look at the newbie getting in the spirit!!  That is what I am talking about. Clap

Bring it on! Let's see what you've got LOL
Well, I'm not that new. I lurked for about 4 years before making an account. Tongue


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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 20:45
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Who but Neil Peart could give you the courage to say THE HELL WITH GIRLS I'M GONNA WITHDRAW INTO MY FANTASY WORLD ?
LOL maybe Freddie Mercury?


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Posted By: Gryphon
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 20:47
don't really care for either one, but I will go with rush.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 22:26
Le Orme is OK, but there is something about them that just doesn't click with me (well, except for Felona e Sorona, which I really love), so Rush is shall be.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 00:29
Le Orme, easily. I can really enjoy only a couple of Rush tracks. The other hundreds of listens are what I call "trying".


Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 01:23
Rush is my favorite, and I hope they win and stuff.


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Posted By: Floyd Steely
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 01:27
Since the gist of this poll seems to be getting people to vote for the most random, unrelated things, I vote for socks. I like to wear socks.

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Posted By: ebil0505
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 01:31
I know more of Rush's work so I'll vote for them.
I do love Le Orme though

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 01:43
Originally posted by Floyd Steely Floyd Steely wrote:

Since the gist of this poll seems to be getting people to vote for the most random, unrelated things, I vote for socks. I like to wear socks.
Huh? ... What things?


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 05:35
What a coincidence....listening to le Orme just now after years

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 06:21
Amazing, Le Orme is winning this (at least, so it seems at this moment).
Well, I like it!  


Posted By: Daysbetween
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 07:33
Closest poll I've seen so far in the first round and I've just made the contest closer by voting for Rush.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 07:34
Hmmm none of these are personal faves, although I dig a couple of albums from each. I'll give Le Orme the slight edge on the strength of Contrappunti and the opening cut of Felona e Sorona. 




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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 10:38
Rush

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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 10:54
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I had no idea there were so many Le Orme fans here.

C'MON GUYZ IT'S RUSH GEEZ

Where was Le Orme when you were squeezing pimples in your teenage bathroom, looking for guidance to summon the courage to approach that pretty girl in your class?  Who but Neil Peart could give you the courage to say THE HELL WITH GIRLS I'M GONNA WITHDRAW INTO MY FANTASY WORLD ?

Wow Steve. That almost brings a tear to my eye. I can definitely identify with that.

Can I change my vote? Cry





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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 11:05
yeah that was mother beautiful HT. Post of the tournament so far!

I was inclined to vote for Rush but decided to vote Le Orme. I really do love early Rush but Le Orme did, as others have noted, had such a classic string of albums that not even Rush matched.

If only I had waited.. Steve's brilliant post would have likely been enough to sway me.


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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 12:06
Le Orme :)

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 12:08
Le Orme!!!!


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 12:46
Wow, to think Le Orme are still ahead, lets hope it stays like this.


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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 13:03
I love Le Orme but I can't vote against Rush


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Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 16:15
Take a guess who I voted for Wink 


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 07:34
Alright guys.  This is ridiculous.  Rush has 4 albums ranked in PA's top 40.  Le Orme has one album in the top 100.  There really cannot be more proggers who prefer Le Orme over Rush. 

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 09:48
maybe this isn't a popularity contest after all?


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:21
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

maybe this isn't a popularity contest after all?


come on.  WE all know the prog mantra.  It applies fully within prog as well as outside.

Popularity does not equal quality.

I really don't have a dog in this fight.  I really like Le Orme, but are far down the list of Italian favorites of mine. However I really.. REALLY like Rush. Early Rush  that is.  But it is refreshing to see people judge simply on the music rather than the name of the band. On that. Rush rocked....  Le Orme created a string of timeless prog classics. It could have been a nightmare draw not for Le Orme but one for Rush and so far has proved to be one.  Right from the start of this tournament when Le Orme went up 10-0 you knew or strongly suspected this tournament could be a lot of fun.  This forum is different Ken from the old glory days when the popular groups had large and vocal fanclubs.  Perhaps many are simply judging based on the music (then again.. how to explain Camel LOL) over the name.

The winner really doesn't matter I suppose.. what counts is the drama. Who really is going to win this.  I (we) couldn't have asked for more. It makes me happy I junked the original idea of seeding everone  and going with random draws outside of the top 8 (IMO of couse).  I do have to say, as soon as I have gotten home the last two days.. the first thing I have checked is the vote total here. Clap


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:30
My love for things Italian does not extend to Le Orme.

RUSH


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:33
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Alright guys.  This is ridiculous.  Rush has 4 albums ranked in PA's top 40.  Le Orme has one album in the top 100.  There really cannot be more proggers who prefer Le Orme over Rush. 


I am surprised to see so many Le Orme fans, but I suppose there are those without preference who simply want to see the underdog win and voted that way.  Honestly Scott, I figured Rush would have overtaken Le Orme by now.  However if one was simply to judge the groups by the body of work, forget the album lists here, Le Orme had as good if not better run of prog material than Rush did. Rush really didn't hit the big time until they left prog behind. I enjoy the HELL out of their prog material, and love the group FOR it, but I would really never consider it quality. More fun than anything to hear the chesey ass lyrics, geek prog personified, and  really killer heavy prog but Le Orme, like many of the Italians in addition to the bite gave a sense of taste and refinement toallly missing from early Rush.

btw.  Some clappies. Clap Clap About time someone from the Rush camp stepped up and took offense to these results. If this had been ELP instead of Rush the forum would be awash in burned out threads and overturned pollls. LOL  Rush should inspired as much if not more love than poor old reviled ELP shouldn't it? Clap


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:34
a TIE!!!

Rush has finally caught the underdog.. now can they pass them or will Le Orme pull back in front!!!!

btw.  Raff has not voted yet WinkWink


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:39
Hey Micky! ?

What happens if any of them end in a draw?  This isn't the only close run thing.


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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:42
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

maybe this isn't a popularity contest after all?


What is the opposite of a popularity contest? Tongue


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:44
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Hey Micky! ?

What happens if any of them end in a draw?  This isn't the only close run thing.


I've seen that. I don't remember if this came up years ago when the first battle of the band came up. If anyone does remember let me  know and we'll do it the same way.

good question. Not sure but definitely I am not inclined to break ties myself.  I am no saint and have my bias hahah.   I love who I love and dislike those I do.

Likely I will ask one voter from each side to make a plea  and both Raff and I will judge upon the merits and decide. No ties.. Raff and I would eventually agree to agree upon a winner based on the 'evidence'.


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:46
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Hey Micky! ?

What happens if any of them end in a draw?  This isn't the only close run thing.


I've seen that. I don't remember if this came up years ago when the first battle of the band came up. If anyone does remember let me  know and we'll do it the same way.

good question. Not sure but definitely I am not inclined to break ties myself.  I am no saint and have my bias hahah.   I love who I love and dislike those I do.

Likely I will ask one voter from each side to make a plea  and both Raff and I will judge upon the merits and decide. No ties.. Raff and I would eventually agree to agree upon a winner based on the 'evidence'.
Seems like the fair thing to do is have both bands move on and have a three-way Wink in the next round.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:50
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Hey Micky! ?

What happens if any of them end in a draw?  This isn't the only close run thing.


I've seen that. I don't remember if this came up years ago when the first battle of the band came up. If anyone does remember let me  know and we'll do it the same way.

good question. Not sure but definitely I am not inclined to break ties myself.  I am no saint and have my bias hahah.   I love who I love and dislike those I do.

Likely I will ask one voter from each side to make a plea  and both Raff and I will judge upon the merits and decide. No ties.. Raff and I would eventually agree to agree upon a winner based on the 'evidence'.
Seems like the fair thing to do is have both bands move on and have a three-way Wink in the next round.


I like that idea Scott. I hadn't thought of that possibility.  Perhaps will a multi vote option, one could say it wouldn't be fair to the 1st round winner the two tieing bands had to face.  We'll see but I agree, it is something we should hash out as not just this one, but others are razor thin and well could end up in ties.  I really don't think it is fair to let one person decide.  Nor do we have the time for run offs.  These winners get a week break while the other half of the bracket goes on.. after that it is a race to the finish with no breaks for any band. A run off would screw up the weekend to weekend polling time.


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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:52
I think this poll has by and far the most participants. The other ones sit somewhere around 60-65 voters or so while this one has eclipsed 80.

EDIT: But I expect Dream Theater's matchup will be similar. Those who like DT will vote for them, and those who don't will vote the opposite, regardless of who their opponent is.


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:54
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Hey Micky! ?

What happens if any of them end in a draw?  This isn't the only close run thing.


I've seen that. I don't remember if this came up years ago when the first battle of the band came up. If anyone does remember let me  know and we'll do it the same way.

good question. Not sure but definitely I am not inclined to break ties myself.  I am no saint and have my bias hahah.   I love who I love and dislike those I do.

Likely I will ask one voter from each side to make a plea  and both Raff and I will judge upon the merits and decide. No ties.. Raff and I would eventually agree to agree upon a winner based on the 'evidence'.


You mean you haven't got a rule!? Shocking!

When is the cut off point?  I'm sure you have said but I don't remember (I don't recall, I've got no memory for anything at all)

A threesome might work? (snigger Evil Smile)


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:54
or better yet. Perhaps it is fair to let one person decide but not someone like me.LOL

perhaps a vip VP who breaks ties.  I have an idea as to a person for that... a non partisan who hasn't (that I know of) really expressed a love or dislike of any bands.


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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:57
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

or better yet. Perhaps it is fair to let one person decide but not someone like me.LOL

perhaps a vip VP who breaks ties.  I have an idea as to a person for that... a non partisan who hasn't (that I know of) really expressed a love or dislike of any bands.


Actually, I was gonna suggest discounting yours and Raff's votes if you can't find another person to play tiebreaker. Dunno how you feel about that though. It is a silly idea. LOL


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 12:58
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Hey Micky! ?

What happens if any of them end in a draw?  This isn't the only close run thing.


I've seen that. I don't remember if this came up years ago when the first battle of the band came up. If anyone does remember let me  know and we'll do it the same way.

good question. Not sure but definitely I am not inclined to break ties myself.  I am no saint and have my bias hahah.   I love who I love and dislike those I do.

Likely I will ask one voter from each side to make a plea  and both Raff and I will judge upon the merits and decide. No ties.. Raff and I would eventually agree to agree upon a winner based on the 'evidence'.


You mean you haven't got a rule!? Shocking!

When is the cut off point?  I'm sure you have said but I don't remember (I don't recall, I've got no memory for anything at all)

A threesome might work? (snigger Evil Smile)


I have no plans.. totally seat of the pants.  Planning means you have put thought into it. Anyone who knows me knows I exist and thrive when I improvise.

Each polling section goes for a week.

Detroit ends Sat. morning and then Lima kicks off for a week.
Portland ends Sun. morning and then Rome kicks  off.

the weekend after that
Sat. Detroit and portland bracketts
Sun Lima and Rome brackes

continuing then weekly until we get to the final 4.


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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 13:01
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Hey Micky! ?

What happens if any of them end in a draw?  This isn't the only close run thing.


I've seen that. I don't remember if this came up years ago when the first battle of the band came up. If anyone does remember let me  know and we'll do it the same way.

good question. Not sure but definitely I am not inclined to break ties myself.  I am no saint and have my bias hahah.   I love who I love and dislike those I do.

Likely I will ask one voter from each side to make a plea  and both Raff and I will judge upon the merits and decide. No ties.. Raff and I would eventually agree to agree upon a winner based on the 'evidence'.


Or just flip a coin. Wink


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 13:03
Originally posted by Metalmarsh89 Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

or better yet. Perhaps it is fair to let one person decide but not someone like me.LOL

perhaps a vip VP who breaks ties.  I have an idea as to a person for that... a non partisan who hasn't (that I know of) really expressed a love or dislike of any bands.


Actually, I was gonna suggest discounting yours and Raff's votes if you can't find another person to play tiebreaker. Dunno how you feel about that though. It is a silly idea. LOL


I like that. I have the perfect person in mind for that. A relatively new person to the forum who took an interest in this and helped me, yet who doesn't appear to be the decided  band partisan some of us are. I do think I could be impartial but the hell with that.. it is more fun to NOT be. LOL




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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 13:04
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Hey Micky! ?

What happens if any of them end in a draw?  This isn't the only close run thing.


I've seen that. I don't remember if this came up years ago when the first battle of the band came up. If anyone does remember let me  know and we'll do it the same way.

good question. Not sure but definitely I am not inclined to break ties myself.  I am no saint and have my bias hahah.   I love who I love and dislike those I do.

Likely I will ask one voter from each side to make a plea  and both Raff and I will judge upon the merits and decide. No ties.. Raff and I would eventually agree to agree upon a winner based on the 'evidence'.


Or just flip a coin. Wink


oh I could have fun with that via the PS updates but I think that would come off a bit as anticlimatic LOL


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 13:08
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:


Alright guys.  This is ridiculous.  Rush has 4 albums ranked in PA's top 40.  Le Orme has one album in the top 100.  There really cannot be more proggers who prefer Le Orme over Rush. 


I am surprised to see so many Le Orme fans, but I suppose there are those without preference who simply want to see the underdog win and voted that way.  Honestly Scott, I figured Rush would have overtaken Le Orme by now.  However if one was simply to judge the groups by the body of work, forget the album lists here, Le Orme had as good if not better run of prog material than Rush did. Rush really didn't hit the big time until they left prog behind. I enjoy the HELL out of their prog material, and love the group FOR it, but I would really never consider it quality. More fun than anything to hear the chesey ass lyrics, geek prog personified, and  really killer heavy prog but Le Orme, like many of the Italians in addition to the bite gave a sense of taste and refinement toallly missing from early Rush.

btw.  Some clappies. Clap Clap About time someone from the Rush camp stepped up and took offense to these results. If this had been ELP instead of Rush the forum would be awash in burned out threads and overturned pollls. LOL  Rush should inspired as much if not more love than poor old reviled ELP shouldn't it? Clap


While Rush has many fans, it also has many detractors. I would think that Le Orme's music would appeal to a wider variety of people into classic Prog, even though it is not as widely known. I'd be surprised if some voting for Le Orme are not really just voting against Rush.

I don't think that the album rankings always are a great indication of what today's people in the forum think, anyway. In this case, people have tracks to judge by even if they don't have full albums.

I expect that regular forum members generally have far more varied and vast progressive rock collections than those who came here just to rate and review their favourites. Rush is really well-known, and a lot of people would have come to PA primarily to rate their albums. Many of those of us in the forums get exposed to a wide variety of music. And fashions rather change... ELP was more popular here when I joined as I remember it. It was even popular with me!

I used to love Rush, especially early Rush (still listen to Caress of Steel now and then), but I went off it. Le Orme is hardly my favourite RPI band, though it was the first I really got into (got loads of their albums). I have mostly gone off Le Orme since it's generally too bombastic for my tastes now (as with ELP), but I honestly expect that if Italian wasn't an issue with people and all those classic Prog fans who knew Rush's classic albums also knew Le Orme's classic albums, then Le Orme would be more popular amongst the hardcore Proggers than Rush (we are pretty hardcore proggers in the PA forums generally). Maybe not, though. Collage through Contrappunti are classics.

I would hope that those who vote in these polls at least try to listen to music by both before they vote, and then come to a decision. And I would also hope that they vote FOR an act rather vote as an act AGAINST an act.

Most of my favourite albums have far fewer ratings than Le Orme's top-rated albums, but then I know that my tastes are hardly mainstream even in Prog circles.

By the way, for me there are many Canadian bands better than Rush (especially hailing from Quebec), but of course that's dependent on my tastes.

A lot of people hate Rush due to the Ethyl Merman-on-helium singer as well as the remedial level Philosophy lyrics.



Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 13:17
excellent post Greg.. Clap


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:20
I don't want to start slinging mud like a politician, but a vote for Le Orme is like a vote for Love Beach.

Le Orme Collage album coverEmerson Lake & Palmer Love Beach album cover Wink

From Greg (Logan):  I honestly expect that if Italian wasn't an issue with people and all those classic Prog fans who knew Rush's classic albums also knew Le Orme's classic albums, then Le Orme would be more popular amongst the hardcore Proggers than Rush (we are pretty hardcore proggers in the PA forums generally).


I can't deny that my single lingual issues do have an effect on my ability to listen to RPI musicians.  Before today, I will admit that I have only heard a handful of songs from Le Orme.  Today, I listened to their first two albums and in spite of not understanding a word that was sung I thought that they were both quite good.  I think I actually liked the debut album more, but my understanding is that is not reflective of their future sound.  At any rate, enjoyable enough to want to try out some additional albums from them.  I don't believe that I am going to be changing my user name anytime soon as a result of these listens, but I think that I am going to be glad that I am giving them a go.




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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:27
Love the thumb-and-index akimbo in those pictures. LOL


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:29
hahhaha.  Clap Yeah.. let's say Le Orme REALLY stepped up their album covers after Collage

For the longest time I couldn't even look at it close enough or long enough to realize it wasn't a tennis racket that was being held. LOL


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:30
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hahhaha.  Clap Yeah.. let's say Le Orme REALLY stepped up their album covers after Collage

For the longest time I couldn't even look at it close enough or long enough to realize it wasn't a tennis racket that was being held. LOL
I just realized that today. LOL


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:31
LOLLOL Clap

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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:31
^ The first time I noticed it wasn't a tennis racket LOL


Posted By: Walton Street
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:32

"you see but you do not observe"



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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:33
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

^ The first time I noticed it wasn't a tennis racket LOL
Same here. What is it anyway? Something cross-looking.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:36
Scott, love the pics. I like the religious iconography of the Collage one, but then ELP is practically a religion for some (imagine them on that Beach with halos, hairy chests, camel-toe.... Like with a funnny old DT photoshop job, could put the biggest halo around Emerson's male camel-toe). I actually like Le Orme's debut a lot. There is an English language version of Felona e Sorona which I would recommend to you (that is their most beloved album I would say) if you can find it streaming.

I don't like the Enlsish language version nearly as much (I love the sound of Italians singing in Italian), but then l'm more about sound than lyrics. I'm mostly an instrumental guy, but most of the songs I like don't have English lyrics (plenty of folk and Cantebury album where the lyrics are important to me, though).

By the way, I've just played Fly By Night after a long time (dug out my old record) and it still rocks. Early Rush has some balls that I kind of think got a little neutered later on. Which is funny, cause Geddy Lee sounds more like he'd been neutered early on.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:37
LOL awesome!!!


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:39
If its a draw then I think Le Orme should lose purely on the basis of bad taste (for album covers) . I mean who thought that was a good idea - any of it? Bare chests, white stuff, tennis racket (with no strings), religeous connotations, erm dodgy facial hair, er everything what were they thinking. (drugs?).


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:41
prog chicks man.


do I REALLY need to post THAT picture of mid 70's Rush we all know and love.  Don't try to tell me those guys were getting laid every night like you know Le Orme were.


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Posted By: Walton Street
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 14:42
I think they were influenced by the Grand Funk Railroad covers .. naked skinny hairy guys

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