Zoso and Houses: Led Zep Remasters Part 2
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Topic: Zoso and Houses: Led Zep Remasters Part 2
Posted By: SteveG
Subject: Zoso and Houses: Led Zep Remasters Part 2
Date Posted: October 27 2014 at 09:00
Led Zeppelin 4 and Houses of the Holy have just been remastered and released on CD with vinyl imminently following. What's your take this remasters and expanded editions.
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: October 27 2014 at 09:18
wait, has it been officially released here, i mean that's tomorrow isn't it?
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 27 2014 at 09:19
I already have enough Zep .....
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 27 2014 at 09:26
Michael678 wrote:
wait, has it been officially released here, i mean that's tomorrow isn't it? | The CD's are available now in my local record shop but I'm still waiting on the vinyl from them.Correction: Only the 2 Cd bonus editions are available from the record shop, not the single disc editions which should be out next week.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 27 2014 at 09:29
dr wu23 wrote:
I already have enough Zep ..... | Old Hindu saying 'you can never have enough Zep. Now please meditate.'
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 27 2014 at 10:43
I'll probably get these for Christmas. My Zep CDs are pretty old.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 27 2014 at 11:47
Waiting for my local record store to get them...the vinyl that is. I have read on different forums that the vinyl are again excellent SQ, pressed to perfection by Pallas in Germany.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 27 2014 at 14:28
^Sweet. My record shop just got the vinyl in today. I will grab them this afternoon or tomorrow! I'm psyched!
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 28 2014 at 13:31
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
I already have enough Zep ..... | Old Hindu saying 'you can never have enough Zep. Now please meditate.'
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Old Hindu saying...." bands keep remastering and adding 'extra tracks' to make more money."
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 28 2014 at 13:37
^Then Pink Floyd must meditate more often.
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: October 28 2014 at 13:37
^ I think it's necessary: there was only one digital remaster and their quality is cp. Also, it was not easy to find LZ LP's here. Now I can find it in the local store and not very expensive.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 29 2014 at 08:50
I got the vinyl remasters of Zoso and Houses last night and with the added detail, there's a lot to take in. Especially during Rain Song. You don't know weather to concentrate on the sparkling acoustic guitar, cleaner electric guitar or JPJ's cleaner sounding Mellotron.
I guess everyone should be lucky enough to have this problem.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 29 2014 at 10:12
Have not spun them yet....might wait till Saturday when I can sit and soak it all in. What package did you get?
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 29 2014 at 10:34
and speaking of new re-issues.....
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/led-zeppelin-unreleased-songs/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral" rel="nofollow - http://ultimateclassicrock.com/led-zeppelin-unreleased-songs/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 29 2014 at 13:50
^The two disc 'Deluxe' editions . I can't say that the bonus discs are essential but there are some good alternate versions and excellent backing tracks, like the Battle Of Evermore, which is stunning even without the vocals.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: November 13 2014 at 13:39
If I were just discovering Zep, I think I might go for the reissues, but my vinyl copies of the albums are where I turn. I know every hiss, pop, crackle and skip - they've become parts of the songs themselves. Improved sound ain't nothin' over the memory of those sounds.....nothing can improve on memory.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 07:30
I've got the HOOH special edition, the sound is pretty good. I'm not so sure about the extras though, who wants versions of Led Zep songs without Plant's vocals, or Moby Dick without the drum solo?
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 14 2014 at 15:15
^Crazy people like me.
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Posted By: King Only
Date Posted: December 12 2014 at 13:00
I'm really, really, really enjoying the 'companion discs' of these Led Zeppelin Deluxe Edition reissues. Great to hear these studio outtakes and alternate versions. Honestly surprised that some people don't like them.
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Posted By: King Only
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 09:04
Some supposedly 'leaked' information from Amazon France was posted on the Led Zeppelin forum.
Here is a rumored track list for the upcoming Physical Graffiti remaster's bonus disc:
1. Brandy & Coke (Trampled Under Foot - Initial Rough Mix) 2. Sick Again (Early Version) 3. In My Time Of Dying (Initial Rough Mix) 4. Houses Of The Holy (Rough Mix With Overdubs) 5. Everybody Makes It Through (In The Light Early Version/In Transit) 6. Boogie With Stu (Sunset Sound Mix) 7. Driving Through Kashmir (Kashmir Rough Orchestra Mix)
And here's an image of the packaging:
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 09:13
Ah, they've reinstated the "windows" thing on the PG package. Yay! I used to have fun playing with that on the LP. Ditto for the "wheel" thing on LZ III - did they reinstate that for the new Led Zep III package?
I'm glad the 2 disc sets are selling for the price of a single, because I have not had any use for the bonus discs yet. I've never gotten excited about alternate versions of songs already on the album (different mixes, rehearsal run-throughs, etc). It's unfortunate that Zep doesn't have a lot of unused songs, but that's just the way it is.
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Posted By: King Only
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 09:18
HolyMoly wrote:
the "wheel" thing on LZ III - did they reinstate that for the new Led Zep III package? |
Yes, the latest remaster of LZ III has the wheel.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 09:24
^God, it must have awful not to have the wheel on the CD!
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Posted By: King Only
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 09:27
HolyMoly wrote:
It's unfortunate that Zep doesn't have a lot of unused songs, but that's just the way it is.
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I guess all their 'unused' tracks were added to Physical Graffiti to make it a double album and any remaining leftovers were put on Coda.
Personally I love the alternate versions, things sound familiar but different. For me it's a bit like listening to live versions of tracks or bootlegs, sure the 'official' version usually sounds better but rough versions and live versions sometimes have interesting differences. I think it's good with these latest LZ remasters that they put the bonus tracks on a separate CD instead of tacking them on to the end of the album, which sometimes messes up the 'flow' of the album.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 09:32
SteveG wrote:
^God, it must have awful not to have the wheel on the CD! | I know, right? I cried many tears over this. That and the refusal to add "Hey Hey What Can I Do" to the track list.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 09:43
^Now, that truly was sad!
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 10:06
Yes LZIII vinyl has the wheel...I spin it all the time ...Like Wheel of Fortune!
Fisical Grafiti will be a big buy/sell....we are all waiting for that one. I think I will get the Super Deluxe vinyl issue since I probably will want the book. I got the Super Deluxe on LZI and it's pretty sweet.
As far as alternate versions, my favorite is the alternate version of Stairway To Heaven on Zoso, that mix is really nice, I actually play that one more than the original album mix.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 10:11
Jose, you could probably brighten up someone's darkest day! Cheers to you, mate!
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 11:56
Catcher10 wrote:
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Fisical Grafiti will be a big buy/sell....we are all waiting for that one.
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I know I've already expressed my skepticism on the Zepp remasters, but what can they do with Physical Graffiti? That album is near perfection.
EDIT: BTW, do you think it will be released in time for the 40th anniversary?
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 17:36
Well it has been released for pre-order......the Super Dooper Deluxe Mega Box set is US$160.00, includes all CDs, LPs, Book...etc. I could careless for the CDs but to get the book.......bahhh!
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 08 2015 at 17:38
SteveG wrote:
Jose, you could probably brighten up someone's darkest day! Cheers to you, mate! |
There are no dark days.....only opportunities!! Cheers my friend!
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: January 11 2015 at 23:12
I've enjoyed the outtakes so far. Especially the Over The Hills and Song Remains instrumentals. There are many others unofficially available. I really like hearing Zeppelin as an instrumental band. Even with The Voice they were always that, so hearing the detail in these early versions just emphasized what they put into the pieces.
Fiscal Gravity has been announced.
I am very curious as to what he intends fro Presence - there really is no extra material there so alternate takes is my idle speculation.
In through The Out Door should get the full version of All My Love. I wondered how it would be with the three other tracks turning up on Coda - not much else unless Fire gets an inclusion.
Then the one I am anxiously awaiting. A full 2 CD set for Coda. The stuff I want on that one... will he take requests?
A live special covering eras not touched yet would be good to round things off (Led Zeppelin in Europe (especially the 73 era before No Quarter was in the set). The I think that will be that - if we get that far.
Except of course the hi res versions getting a physical release. I do think it's not good to have hi res downloads available but not the actual DVD-Audios or Blu Ray discs for the Blu Ray users.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 12 2015 at 04:33
uduwudu wrote:
Fiscal Gravity has been announced.
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I'm very much looking forward to that one!
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