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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 09:56
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I have no idea what you are talking about. This is amazing. You are shouting and getting on your high horse about nothing. I have no agenda. i wasn't even addressing you. I don't care if she is Symphonic or not or what you and yor team does. It's too laughable your reaction  here.

Seriously, drop it.

Snow Dog


My post is three months old.

I have dropped it three months ago

LOOK AT THE DATES

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 10:46
It is precisely this kind of "argument" that led me (alongside a distinct lack of time) to step down as a collaborator, and the new artist thread is the best example of this.

As I said to the very understanding admin to whom I tendered my resignation, this kind of utterly needless arguing, shouting, and pedantry really was completely removing all enjoyment I had of the music and the site as a whole.

However (!) just for the record, it was not, from what I can see, Ian who resurrected this particular music lecture, it was a relatively new forum member. I wholeheartedly agree with Ian. Why do certain individuals always have to have the last word? Why do we need to carry on like this? Wouldn't a simple PM to the person posting his "dissent" been far better?

I was going to write a lot more. However, Can't Be Arsed comes to mind
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 10:51
I posted here my reason for my no vote. If someone wants to recommend her for Prog-Related, I have no objection.  But unless her original work becomes more prog, my vote stands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 11:02
Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

I posted here my reason for my no vote. If someone wants to recommend her for Prog-Related, I have no objection.  But unless her original work becomes more prog, my vote stands.

Yep, and perfectly reasonable reasons for your rejection were posted, in a very clear and polite fashion. In fact, I did later in the thread suggest that the poster went for prog related, given the feelings of teams on this artist. I never had a problem with the rejections, as such, although there is, of course, a valid argument that covers of prog songs can be a cogent reason for inclusion, given the plethora of prog covers albums we are seeing being released and included on the site.

Your post was not the problem, it is this constant bickering and, in my eyes, exceptionally unreasonable posts which have a large degree of SHOUTING in bold type.

Cue another complaint against me, I suppose, in a place I can't even view. Actually, I barely care anymore. It is my clear and unambiguous opinion that this behaviour is utterly unacceptable, and is a very great downside of an otherwise great site.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 12:50
As I said. I am not trying to upset Ivan or his precious Symph team. I had heard Cailyn's new album and wanted to find out some info here. I was dismayed to find she wasn't on PA so I started this thread.


Not knowing she had already been suggested. A bad error but evidence that rthis has nothing to do with trying to nettle Ivan. I have clearly stated I didn't care which genre she went to.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 15:24
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

As I said. I am not trying to upset Ivan or his precious Symph team. I had heard Cailyn's new album and wanted to find out some info here. I was dismayed to find she wasn't on PA so I started this thread.


Not knowing she had already been suggested. A bad error but evidence that rthis has nothing to do with trying to nettle Ivan. I have clearly stated I didn't care which genre she went to.
I can see the post was written almost three months ago, so would be puerile to protest now.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 16:19
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

As I said. I am not trying to upset Ivan or his precious Symph team. I had heard Cailyn's new album and wanted to find out some info here. I was dismayed to find she wasn't on PA so I started this thread.


Not knowing she had already been suggested. A bad error but evidence that rthis has nothing to do with trying to nettle Ivan. I have clearly stated I didn't care which genre she went to.
I can see the post was written almost three months ago, so would be puerile to protest now.

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I don't understand your point. My thread was more than a month after this one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 18:22
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

As I said. I am not trying to upset Ivan or his precious Symph team. I had heard Cailyn's new album and wanted to find out some info here. I was dismayed to find she wasn't on PA so I started this thread.


Not knowing she had already been suggested. A bad error but evidence that rthis has nothing to do with trying to nettle Ivan. I have clearly stated I didn't care which genre she went to.

 
I can see the post was written almost three months ago, so would be puerile to protest now.

Iván

I don't understand your point. My thread was more than a month after this one.

I think you need some clarification, because you are particularly confused today:

1.- My post you protested about is this one

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 

SD...Prog of some kind = Symphonic?

Two members of the Xover team have rejected her (not moved), please don't like to see the Symphonic team always as the bad guys rejecting an artist that should be here.

She has some Prog elements, but IMO and the opinion of the team (and apparently 2 Xover members), very few.

Iván


MY POST YOU ARE PROTESTING ABOUT TODAY, WAS WRITTEN ON   25 October 2012 at 18:45

I believe you never saw the date

2.- You wrote today 

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

As I said. I am not trying to upset Ivan or his precious Symph team. I had heard Cailyn's new album and wanted to find out some info here. I was dismayed to find she wasn't on PA so I started this thread.


Not knowing she had already been suggested. A bad error but evidence that rthis has nothing to do with trying to nettle Ivan. I have clearly stated I didn't care which genre she went to.

I hope you follow me

3.- On this post

Originally posted by Ivan Ivan wrote:

I can see the post was written almost three months ago, so would be puerile to protest now.

I'M JUST INFORMING YOU THAT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE POST IN http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90287  

4.- FOR GOD'S SAKE, I DIDN'T EVEN READ IT, I NEVER VISITED THAT THREAD, I WOULD NEVER PROTEST ABOUT IT NOW THAT ALMOST THREE MONTHS HAVE PASSED.....AS A FACT, I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YOU IN THIS YEAR 2013

I don't know why you started all this problem protesting about a post I wrote 3 months ago.

Ivan


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 18:30
Ok, now you guys are arguing about the dates of when you are arguing? Come on.

First it was comments on the eval process, then it was backwards constructive argument, now this is just futile. Let's move on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 18:35
Originally posted by Andy Webb Andy Webb wrote:

Ok, now you guys are arguing about the dates of when you are arguing? Come on.

First it was comments on the eval process, then it was backwards constructive argument, now this is just futile. Let's move on.

Andy I think Snow Dog saw today a post written by me three months ago and thought I wrote it today.

That's why all this nonsense started, and  a third person that doesn't have any business here (Lazland) came to make it worst.
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 18:53
Enough. Move on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 18:53
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Enough. Move on.

Ditto.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 19:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 19:05
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Chickens. Delicious chickens.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 23:45
Okay, I'm the person who caused most of the trouble here...my apologies.  My approach was not helpful.

Let's try this: Some in the above thread suggested this artist might be listed as "Prog related".  Can I request that she be considered in this light?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2013 at 04:19
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Andy Webb Andy Webb wrote:

Ok, now you guys are arguing about the dates of when you are arguing? Come on.

First it was comments on the eval process, then it was backwards constructive argument, now this is just futile. Let's move on.

Andy I think Snow Dog saw today a post written by me three months ago and thought I wrote it today.

That's why all this nonsense started, and  a third person that doesn't have any business here (Lazland) came to make it worst.

Last word.

Ivan I don't care  about the date. I didn't see it before but does that mean I am not allowed to answer your base accusations to me? If I find something posted 2 years ago that I need to defend I will. So stick that in your pipe.

(BTW I didn't notice the date but it is completely irrelevent)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2013 at 13:24
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


(BTW I didn't notice the date but it is completely irrelevent)

Goodbye.

It's relevant Snow Dog

This was a discussion that started and ended three months ago, we talked about it and solved the problem in October

And BTW: I never saw your post on the other thread, so never was taliking about it

Iván


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2013 at 13:37
Alright this is enough. If you want to discuss this artist, start a new thread in the General Music discussions.
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