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DallasBryan View Drop Down

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Topic: why no ELO?
Posted: June 19 2005 at 05:41

why cant these guys get a place in the
PROGARCHIVES?

Their early releases deserve to be here!

Were they deemed by the English press as being to
POP or AOR, surely we have better sense here in the
forum than to be swayed by the press, they are one
of the forefathers and without we have less
foundation to the spirit of progressive rock. No matter
if they choose the mainstream later in their career.
Genesis, ELP and many others are guilty of this
crime!

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 09:29

hmmm definetaly prog in some places of ELO.

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 12:07

I may have to agree.

If we are already on topic, what are some of ELO's best albums? whats recommended?

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Posted: June 23 2005 at 03:30

HI Dallas,

This has been discussed before and I would agree for them being prog for the first five albums (Until the Eldorado album), but for some reason , many of us feel they they should not be because of the super-poppish almost disco period that followed those five albums.

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

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Posted: June 24 2005 at 02:59

then eliminate Pink Floyd for there experimental
psychotic episodes in the mid to late 60's. Eliminate
ELP for Love Beach and classical piano period, Yes
for putting out pseudo prog for way to many albums,
Genesis for there commercial pop periods, Soft
Machine for only having a half of a good album, King
Crimson for a career of so so avant noise, the whole
Canterbury scene for making about 3-4 interesting
albums outside of the British infacuation, Gryphon
for making one half of a good album and so on!

the WHOLE NEO PROG GENRE for never making an
original album!

you guys site! do what you want, it makes for
interesting blurbage...

Edited by DallasBryan

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Posted: June 24 2005 at 08:39

Don't worry people have asked for Slipknot

before (the stupid ones like Metalman etc), over my but don't worry that idea was in the bin, many feel Queen should be added I have an 50/50 feel towards of that.

CYMRU AM BYTH

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Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:00

I think Electric Light Orchestra is at the same level as Alan Parsons Project, John Miles, Traffic and Al Stewart. I think it's very close to prog but Yes, ELP, Camel, Jethro Tull, etc are much more prog.

I think because Alan Parsons is mentioned in the prog archives, ELO and the Move should be too (I think ELO is even more prog than Talk Talk and Roxy Music are)

Right down the line

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Posted: June 30 2005 at 09:55

I thought they must be on the site, but evidently not. After first noticing this thread earlier this week, I listened to Out of the Blue, and though missing gratuitous moog solos, this album sounds prog to me, if some other albums by other artists are any indication.

And, though not a rabid fan, why can't something be prog if tainted with a bit of disco? That vibe certainly taints some of the other product found herein....

Vive Gong!

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DallasBryan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 23 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3323	Topic: why no ELO? Posted: June 19 2005 at 05:41
	why cant these guys get a place in the PROGARCHIVES? Their early releases deserve to be here! Were they deemed by the English press as being to POP or AOR, surely we have better sense here in the forum than to be swayed by the press, they are one of the forefathers and without we have less foundation to the spirit of progressive rock. No matter if they choose the mainstream later in their career. Genesis, ELP and many others are guilty of this crime!

PROGMAN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 03 2004 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 2664	Posted: June 22 2005 at 09:29
	hmmm definetaly prog in some places of ELO.
	CYMRU AM BYTH

Dreamer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 13 2005 Location: Amsterdam Status: Offline Points: 297	Posted: June 22 2005 at 12:07
	I may have to agree. If we are already on topic, what are some of ELO's best albums? whats recommended?

Sean Trane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20251	Posted: June 23 2005 at 03:30
	HI Dallas, This has been discussed before and I would agree for them being prog for the first five albums (Until the Eldorado album), but for some reason , many of us feel they they should not be because of the super-poppish almost disco period that followed those five albums.
	let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword

DallasBryan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 23 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3323	Posted: June 24 2005 at 02:59
	then eliminate Pink Floyd for there experimental psychotic episodes in the mid to late 60's. Eliminate ELP for Love Beach and classical piano period, Yes for putting out pseudo prog for way to many albums, Genesis for there commercial pop periods, Soft Machine for only having a half of a good album, King Crimson for a career of so so avant noise, the whole Canterbury scene for making about 3-4 interesting albums outside of the British infacuation, Gryphon for making one half of a good album and so on! the WHOLE NEO PROG GENRE for never making an original album! you guys site! do what you want, it makes for interesting blurbage... Edited by DallasBryan

PROGMAN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 03 2004 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 2664	Posted: June 24 2005 at 08:39
	Don't worry people have asked for Slipknot before (the stupid ones like Metalman etc), over my but don't worry that idea was in the bin, many feel Queen should be added I have an 50/50 feel towards of that.
	CYMRU AM BYTH

Odd24 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 18 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 199	Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:00
	I think Electric Light Orchestra is at the same level as Alan Parsons Project, John Miles, Traffic and Al Stewart. I think it's very close to prog but Yes, ELP, Camel, Jethro Tull, etc are much more prog. I think because Alan Parsons is mentioned in the prog archives, ELO and the Move should be too (I think ELO is even more prog than Talk Talk and Roxy Music are)
	Right down the line

radiognome3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Groupie Joined: March 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Posted: June 30 2005 at 09:55
	I thought they must be on the site, but evidently not. After first noticing this thread earlier this week, I listened to Out of the Blue, and though missing gratuitous moog solos, this album sounds prog to me, if some other albums by other artists are any indication. And, though not a rabid fan, why can't something be prog if tainted with a bit of disco? That vibe certainly taints some of the other product found herein....
	Vive Gong!